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shipmk October 8th 07 01:10 PM

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Short Wave Sportfishing October 8th 07 03:23 PM

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On Mon, 08 Oct 2007 12:10:50 -0000, shipmk wrote:

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Can you build a low transom 21 foot center console?

Reginald P. Smithers III October 8th 07 03:35 PM

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Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Mon, 08 Oct 2007 12:10:50 -0000, shipmk wrote:

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Can you build a low transom 21 foot center console?


Why would anyone want to build one of those?


[email protected] October 8th 07 03:40 PM

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On Oct 8, 10:35 am, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
wrote:
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Mon, 08 Oct 2007 12:10:50 -0000, shipmk wrote:


-Special Purpose Vessels: Research Vessel, Training Ship, Floating
Dock, Floating Crane, Pleasure Boat, Hospital Ship, Patrol Boat


Can you build a low transom 21 foot center console?


Why would anyone want to build one of those?



Fishermen love em'





They add structure to the bottom...


Reginald P. Smithers III October 8th 07 03:44 PM

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wrote:
On Oct 8, 10:35 am, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
wrote:
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Mon, 08 Oct 2007 12:10:50 -0000, shipmk wrote:
-Special Purpose Vessels: Research Vessel, Training Ship, Floating
Dock, Floating Crane, Pleasure Boat, Hospital Ship, Patrol Boat
Can you build a low transom 21 foot center console?

Why would anyone want to build one of those?



Fishermen love em'





They add structure to the bottom...


But they are not big enough to really provide a good home for the
monster fish. Now if you tie together about 10 of them, now that would
be some good structure.


HK October 8th 07 03:51 PM

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wrote:
On Oct 8, 10:35 am, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
wrote:
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Mon, 08 Oct 2007 12:10:50 -0000, shipmk wrote:
-Special Purpose Vessels: Research Vessel, Training Ship, Floating
Dock, Floating Crane, Pleasure Boat, Hospital Ship, Patrol Boat
Can you build a low transom 21 foot center console?

Why would anyone want to build one of those?



Fishermen love em'





They add structure to the bottom...



I suspect it would take you about a millisecond to say yes if someone
offered you an even swap, my Parker rig for your rig. :}

HK October 8th 07 03:52 PM

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Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
wrote:
On Oct 8, 10:35 am, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
wrote:
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Mon, 08 Oct 2007 12:10:50 -0000, shipmk wrote:
-Special Purpose Vessels: Research Vessel, Training Ship, Floating
Dock, Floating Crane, Pleasure Boat, Hospital Ship, Patrol Boat
Can you build a low transom 21 foot center console?
Why would anyone want to build one of those?



Fishermen love em'





They add structure to the bottom...


But they are not big enough to really provide a good home for the
monster fish. Now if you tie together about 10 of them, now that would
be some good structure.



This coming from Reggie, a guy who brownstains his shorts when other
posters here ask about his boat.

Short Wave Sportfishing October 8th 07 04:00 PM

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On Mon, 08 Oct 2007 10:35:32 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Mon, 08 Oct 2007 12:10:50 -0000, shipmk wrote:

-Special Purpose Vessels: Research Vessel, Training Ship, Floating
Dock, Floating Crane, Pleasure Boat, Hospital Ship, Patrol Boat


Can you build a low transom 21 foot center console?


Why would anyone want to build one of those?


There are some who believe that wet decks and unstable platforms in
stern seas are a plus. It's a kind of "macho" thing.

Not to mention any names of course, but a set of initials might just
look like...

Well, let's just leave it at that.

Plus, based on Gene's story, they make good artificial reefs. :)

Short Wave Sportfishing October 8th 07 04:00 PM

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On Mon, 08 Oct 2007 14:40:18 -0000,
wrote:

On Oct 8, 10:35 am, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
wrote:
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Mon, 08 Oct 2007 12:10:50 -0000, shipmk wrote:


-Special Purpose Vessels: Research Vessel, Training Ship, Floating
Dock, Floating Crane, Pleasure Boat, Hospital Ship, Patrol Boat


Can you build a low transom 21 foot center console?


Why would anyone want to build one of those?


Fishermen love em'

They add structure to the bottom...


ROTFL!!!

Great minds think alike. :)

[email protected] October 8th 07 04:04 PM

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On Oct 8, 10:51 am, HK wrote:
wrote:
On Oct 8, 10:35 am, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
wrote:
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Mon, 08 Oct 2007 12:10:50 -0000, shipmk wrote:
-Special Purpose Vessels: Research Vessel, Training Ship, Floating
Dock, Floating Crane, Pleasure Boat, Hospital Ship, Patrol Boat
Can you build a low transom 21 foot center console?
Why would anyone want to build one of those?


Fishermen love em'


They add structure to the bottom...


I suspect it would take you about a millisecond to say yes if someone
offered you an even swap, my Parker rig for your rig. :}- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Maybe if you put on a coat of wax and some nose art;)


HK October 8th 07 04:08 PM

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wrote:
On Oct 8, 10:51 am, HK wrote:
wrote:
On Oct 8, 10:35 am, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
wrote:
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Mon, 08 Oct 2007 12:10:50 -0000, shipmk wrote:
-Special Purpose Vessels: Research Vessel, Training Ship, Floating
Dock, Floating Crane, Pleasure Boat, Hospital Ship, Patrol Boat
Can you build a low transom 21 foot center console?
Why would anyone want to build one of those?
Fishermen love em'
They add structure to the bottom...

I suspect it would take you about a millisecond to say yes if someone
offered you an even swap, my Parker rig for your rig. :}- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Maybe if you put on a coat of wax and some nose art;)



Just put on another coat of Collinate paste on the hullsides, outside
and in, and Woodywax on the non-skid. The nose art is up to you. Might I
suggest a cartoon of a Parker 21 eating one of those low-sided, wet
riding, Ranger "small craft" bay boats.

[email protected] October 8th 07 04:15 PM

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On Oct 8, 11:08 am, HK wrote:
wrote:
On Oct 8, 10:51 am, HK wrote:
wrote:
On Oct 8, 10:35 am, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
wrote:
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Mon, 08 Oct 2007 12:10:50 -0000, shipmk wrote:
-Special Purpose Vessels: Research Vessel, Training Ship, Floating
Dock, Floating Crane, Pleasure Boat, Hospital Ship, Patrol Boat
Can you build a low transom 21 foot center console?
Why would anyone want to build one of those?
Fishermen love em'
They add structure to the bottom...
I suspect it would take you about a millisecond to say yes if someone
offered you an even swap, my Parker rig for your rig. :}- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


Maybe if you put on a coat of wax and some nose art;)


Just put on another coat of Collinate paste on the hullsides, outside
and in, and Woodywax on the non-skid. The nose art is up to you. Might I
suggest a cartoon of a Parker 21 eating one of those low-sided, wet
riding, Ranger "small craft" bay boats.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


They are only wet if you hook the Captains' hat with the treble
hook... In which case I guess there are two options. Overboard, or
stuffed in the livewell with those toothy bluefish;)


HK October 8th 07 04:16 PM

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Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Mon, 08 Oct 2007 10:35:32 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Mon, 08 Oct 2007 12:10:50 -0000, shipmk wrote:

-Special Purpose Vessels: Research Vessel, Training Ship, Floating
Dock, Floating Crane, Pleasure Boat, Hospital Ship, Patrol Boat
Can you build a low transom 21 foot center console?

Why would anyone want to build one of those?


There are some who believe that wet decks and unstable platforms in
stern seas are a plus. It's a kind of "macho" thing.

Not to mention any names of course, but a set of initials might just
look like...

Well, let's just leave it at that.

Plus, based on Gene's story, they make good artificial reefs. :)



Speaking of wet decks, this is a 22' Bay Ranger:

http://tinyurl.com/2rlax5

Specs say it is only 16.5" deep from the cockpit sole to the
gunnels...couple of interesting broadsides, and glug, glug, glug.

Nice boat for the Florida flats or the North Florida ICW...I'd certainly
not take it out in the ocean or a big bay.

Short Wave Sportfishing October 8th 07 04:24 PM

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On Mon, 08 Oct 2007 10:44:30 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
wrote:

wrote:
On Oct 8, 10:35 am, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
wrote:
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Mon, 08 Oct 2007 12:10:50 -0000, shipmk wrote:
-Special Purpose Vessels: Research Vessel, Training Ship, Floating
Dock, Floating Crane, Pleasure Boat, Hospital Ship, Patrol Boat
Can you build a low transom 21 foot center console?
Why would anyone want to build one of those?


Fishermen love em'

They add structure to the bottom...


But they are not big enough to really provide a good home for the
monster fish. Now if you tie together about 10 of them, now that would
be some good structure.


Funny you should mention that.

One of the more interesting things I did last week, besides testing
boats that is, was attending a seminar on artificial reefs.

It was very interesting and a lot of really good science was
presented. Lots of data points including information on the building
process and discussion was lively and very civil.

One of the more intriguing presentations was done by a USFW service
biologist who really had a handle on the whole process. What was
startling was his belief, backed by some very solid empirical and
scientific evidence, that artificial reefs tended to aggragate fish
stocks and not create new fish stocks.

His point was that aggragating fish stocks by building artificial
reefs may not be the most desirable way to protect over utilized
species instead opting for more aggressive enforcement of current
regulations even up to and including quota enforcement and commercial
fishing buyouts.

To say that viewpoint was well received by the commercial types would
be a lie, but he held his ground and presented some very compelling
evidence that he was right.

I'm not totally convinced, but he made me think more about the
process.

Reginald P. Smithers III October 8th 07 04:48 PM

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HK wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
wrote:
On Oct 8, 10:35 am, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
wrote:
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Mon, 08 Oct 2007 12:10:50 -0000, shipmk wrote:
-Special Purpose Vessels: Research Vessel, Training Ship, Floating
Dock, Floating Crane, Pleasure Boat, Hospital Ship, Patrol Boat
Can you build a low transom 21 foot center console?
Why would anyone want to build one of those?


Fishermen love em'





They add structure to the bottom...


But they are not big enough to really provide a good home for the
monster fish. Now if you tie together about 10 of them, now that
would be some good structure.



This coming from Reggie, a guy who brownstains his shorts when other
posters here ask about his boat.


No it doesn't bother me at all for anyone to ask me any question at all.


Short Wave Sportfishing October 8th 07 04:52 PM

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On Mon, 08 Oct 2007 11:16:13 -0400, HK wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Mon, 08 Oct 2007 10:35:32 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Mon, 08 Oct 2007 12:10:50 -0000, shipmk wrote:

-Special Purpose Vessels: Research Vessel, Training Ship, Floating
Dock, Floating Crane, Pleasure Boat, Hospital Ship, Patrol Boat
Can you build a low transom 21 foot center console?
Why would anyone want to build one of those?


There are some who believe that wet decks and unstable platforms in
stern seas are a plus. It's a kind of "macho" thing.

Not to mention any names of course, but a set of initials might just
look like...

Well, let's just leave it at that.

Plus, based on Gene's story, they make good artificial reefs. :)



Speaking of wet decks, this is a 22' Bay Ranger:

http://tinyurl.com/2rlax5

Specs say it is only 16.5" deep from the cockpit sole to the
gunnels...couple of interesting broadsides, and glug, glug, glug.

Nice boat for the Florida flats or the North Florida ICW...I'd certainly
not take it out in the ocean or a big bay.


Tell you what - let's do a little "test".

I'll bring my Ranger down there when I leave for SC next week and on
my way back, we'll put your Parker up against my Ranger in some heavy
wakes or seas.

Broadside. I guarentee you I will be nice and dry and you will be
soaked. No boots - deck shoes for evidence.

And just for giggles, let's see if your 150 Yamaha can pull the stern
of my Ranger under. Then we'll see if my ETEC can pull the stern of
your Parker under.

How 'bout it? Up for it? :)

Short Wave Sportfishing October 8th 07 04:54 PM

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On Mon, 08 Oct 2007 11:48:00 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
wrote:

No it doesn't bother me at all for anyone to ask me any question at all.


What is the sound of one hand clapping?

Secondly, if you are lost and come to a fork in the road, which one do
you take?

HK October 8th 07 04:56 PM

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Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Mon, 08 Oct 2007 11:16:13 -0400, HK wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Mon, 08 Oct 2007 10:35:32 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Mon, 08 Oct 2007 12:10:50 -0000, shipmk wrote:

-Special Purpose Vessels: Research Vessel, Training Ship, Floating
Dock, Floating Crane, Pleasure Boat, Hospital Ship, Patrol Boat
Can you build a low transom 21 foot center console?
Why would anyone want to build one of those?
There are some who believe that wet decks and unstable platforms in
stern seas are a plus. It's a kind of "macho" thing.

Not to mention any names of course, but a set of initials might just
look like...

Well, let's just leave it at that.

Plus, based on Gene's story, they make good artificial reefs. :)


Speaking of wet decks, this is a 22' Bay Ranger:

http://tinyurl.com/2rlax5

Specs say it is only 16.5" deep from the cockpit sole to the
gunnels...couple of interesting broadsides, and glug, glug, glug.

Nice boat for the Florida flats or the North Florida ICW...I'd certainly
not take it out in the ocean or a big bay.


Tell you what - let's do a little "test".

I'll bring my Ranger down there when I leave for SC next week and on
my way back, we'll put your Parker up against my Ranger in some heavy
wakes or seas.

Broadside. I guarentee you I will be nice and dry and you will be
soaked. No boots - deck shoes for evidence.

And just for giggles, let's see if your 150 Yamaha can pull the stern
of my Ranger under. Then we'll see if my ETEC can pull the stern of
your Parker under.

How 'bout it? Up for it? :)



Oh the first part makes perfect sense, as my boat, though a foot shorter
than yours (you have a 22' boat, right?), it is about a foot deeper from
the deck to the gunnels, has the typical "Carolina flare," has 21
degrees of deadrise at the transom and probably weighs about 1000 pounds
more. Right. Makes perfect sense, even though what you are saying
violates the laws of physics. Yep, your boat is going to be drier in
heavy seas. Sure it is.

The second part would be fun if we had the same sized engines on the
transom...don't you have a 300 hp deadTec on that wet little boat? :}

I only have a 150.

HK October 8th 07 04:57 PM

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Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
HK wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
wrote:
On Oct 8, 10:35 am, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
wrote:
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Mon, 08 Oct 2007 12:10:50 -0000, shipmk wrote:
-Special Purpose Vessels: Research Vessel, Training Ship, Floating
Dock, Floating Crane, Pleasure Boat, Hospital Ship, Patrol Boat
Can you build a low transom 21 foot center console?
Why would anyone want to build one of those?


Fishermen love em'





They add structure to the bottom...


But they are not big enough to really provide a good home for the
monster fish. Now if you tie together about 10 of them, now that
would be some good structure.



This coming from Reggie, a guy who brownstains his shorts when other
posters here ask about his boat.


No it doesn't bother me at all for anyone to ask me any question at all.



Right...because you won't offer up the information. As many have
suggested, all you are here for is to insult others.


Short Wave Sportfishing October 8th 07 05:13 PM

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On Mon, 08 Oct 2007 11:56:05 -0400, HK wrote:



Oh the first part makes perfect sense, as my boat, though a foot shorter
than yours (you have a 22' boat, right?), it is about a foot deeper from
the deck to the gunnels, has the typical "Carolina flare," has 21
degrees of deadrise at the transom and probably weighs about 1000 pounds
more. Right. Makes perfect sense, even though what you are saying
violates the laws of physics. Yep, your boat is going to be drier in
heavy seas. Sure it is.


20' and I can see you are already backing down.

Chicken. :)

The second part would be fun if we had the same sized engines on the
transom...don't you have a 300 hp deadTec on that wet little boat? :}

I only have a 150.


200 HO.

I'll only go half throttle. :)

HK October 8th 07 05:21 PM

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Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Mon, 08 Oct 2007 11:56:05 -0400, HK wrote:


Oh the first part makes perfect sense, as my boat, though a foot shorter
than yours (you have a 22' boat, right?), it is about a foot deeper from
the deck to the gunnels, has the typical "Carolina flare," has 21
degrees of deadrise at the transom and probably weighs about 1000 pounds
more. Right. Makes perfect sense, even though what you are saying
violates the laws of physics. Yep, your boat is going to be drier in
heavy seas. Sure it is.


20' and I can see you are already backing down.

Chicken. :)

The second part would be fun if we had the same sized engines on the
transom...don't you have a 300 hp deadTec on that wet little boat? :}

I only have a 150.


200 HO.

I'll only go half throttle. :)



You have the 20' SmallBayRanger? Ranger must have dropped that model, as
the 20-footer is not rated for 200 horsepower. Unless you are exceeding
the recommended maximum.

Are the dimensions on your boat, but for length, about the same as the
22-footer? If so, you have a very wide, fairly flat-bottomed, modified
vee hull. Hard riding in the chop and wet.

I've seen Ranger bay boats out on nice days. How many Parker 2100CC's
have you seen? Probably none. There are plenty of Parker 21's out there,
but they mostly are the "SE" models. Different boat.


Chuck Gould October 8th 07 05:32 PM

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On Oct 8, 9:13?am, Short Wave Sportfishing
I'll only go half throttle. :)


Sounds like a half fast compromise to me. :-)



HK October 8th 07 05:37 PM

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Chuck Gould wrote:
On Oct 8, 9:13?am, Short Wave Sportfishing
I'll only go half throttle. :)


Sounds like a half fast compromise to me. :-)




On the other hand, experiments and demonstrations that promise to
violate the laws of physics often are interesting. Tom has proposed one.

[email protected] October 8th 07 05:46 PM

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On Oct 8, 12:37 pm, HK wrote:
Chuck Gould wrote:
On Oct 8, 9:13?am, Short Wave Sportfishing
I'll only go half throttle. :)


Sounds like a half fast compromise to me. :-)


On the other hand, experiments and demonstrations that promise to
violate the laws of physics often are interesting. Tom has proposed one.


Apples and Oranges.. Each job has it's own tool. Years ago I had a CJ7
and worked at a body shop. The frame guy had a VW (smerk) Rabbit that
was set up for, uh, speed. He used to tell me he could take me in the
quarter, I told him to hook up bumper to bumper and I would drag him
to the local scrap yard;)


HK October 8th 07 05:50 PM

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wrote:
On Oct 8, 12:37 pm, HK wrote:
Chuck Gould wrote:
On Oct 8, 9:13?am, Short Wave Sportfishing
I'll only go half throttle. :)
Sounds like a half fast compromise to me. :-)

On the other hand, experiments and demonstrations that promise to
violate the laws of physics often are interesting. Tom has proposed one.


Apples and Oranges.. Each job has it's own tool. Years ago I had a CJ7
and worked at a body shop. The frame guy had a VW (smerk) Rabbit that
was set up for, uh, speed. He used to tell me he could take me in the
quarter, I told him to hook up bumper to bumper and I would drag him
to the local scrap yard;)



Indeed, but the "riding through the slop" experiment Tom has proposed
would end up violating the laws of physics for his boat to win. It just
doesn't make any sense.

[email protected] October 8th 07 05:56 PM

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On Oct 8, 12:50 pm, HK wrote:
wrote:
On Oct 8, 12:37 pm, HK wrote:
Chuck Gould wrote:
On Oct 8, 9:13?am, Short Wave Sportfishing
I'll only go half throttle. :)
Sounds like a half fast compromise to me. :-)
On the other hand, experiments and demonstrations that promise to
violate the laws of physics often are interesting. Tom has proposed one.


Apples and Oranges.. Each job has it's own tool. Years ago I had a CJ7
and worked at a body shop. The frame guy had a VW (smerk) Rabbit that
was set up for, uh, speed. He used to tell me he could take me in the
quarter, I told him to hook up bumper to bumper and I would drag him
to the local scrap yard;)


Indeed, but the "riding through the slop" experiment Tom has proposed
would end up violating the laws of physics for his boat to win. It just
doesn't make any sense.


Hummmm, maybe he is yanking your chain??


HK October 8th 07 06:17 PM

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wrote:
On Oct 8, 12:50 pm, HK wrote:
wrote:
On Oct 8, 12:37 pm, HK wrote:
Chuck Gould wrote:
On Oct 8, 9:13?am, Short Wave Sportfishing
I'll only go half throttle. :)
Sounds like a half fast compromise to me. :-)
On the other hand, experiments and demonstrations that promise to
violate the laws of physics often are interesting. Tom has proposed one.
Apples and Oranges.. Each job has it's own tool. Years ago I had a CJ7
and worked at a body shop. The frame guy had a VW (smerk) Rabbit that
was set up for, uh, speed. He used to tell me he could take me in the
quarter, I told him to hook up bumper to bumper and I would drag him
to the local scrap yard;)

Indeed, but the "riding through the slop" experiment Tom has proposed
would end up violating the laws of physics for his boat to win. It just
doesn't make any sense.


Hummmm, maybe he is yanking your chain??



Of course. Tom knows his ****. He's just trying to imitate one of the
departed, aka Skipper.

Wayne.B October 8th 07 06:56 PM

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On Mon, 08 Oct 2007 15:52:24 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

And just for giggles, let's see if your 150 Yamaha can pull the stern
of my Ranger under. Then we'll see if my ETEC can pull the stern of
your Parker under.

How 'bout it? Up for it? :)


Where can we buy tickets for this event?

I'll provide video service and additional spectator seating..

Wayne.B October 8th 07 07:01 PM

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On Mon, 08 Oct 2007 13:17:17 -0400, HK wrote:

Of course. Tom knows his ****. He's just trying to imitate one of the
departed, aka Skipper.


If Skipper is "departed" than it's time for lobsta bote pictures.

HK October 8th 07 07:04 PM

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Wayne.B wrote:
On Mon, 08 Oct 2007 13:17:17 -0400, HK wrote:

Of course. Tom knows his ****. He's just trying to imitate one of the
departed, aka Skipper.


If Skipper is "departed" than it's time for lobsta bote pictures.



Departed from here, not from life. If you're on the Miles River, you're
a lot closer to the lobsta boat than you know.

Tim October 8th 07 07:25 PM

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shipmk wrote:

we Build to your Oder!


I think I'll pass.

After all... My oder inproved when I switch from Brut, to Old Spice...


Tim October 8th 07 07:31 PM

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Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Mon, 08 Oct 2007 11:16:13 -0400, HK wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Mon, 08 Oct 2007 10:35:32 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Mon, 08 Oct 2007 12:10:50 -0000, shipmk wrote:

-Special Purpose Vessels: Research Vessel, Training Ship, Floating
Dock, Floating Crane, Pleasure Boat, Hospital Ship, Patrol Boat
Can you build a low transom 21 foot center console?
Why would anyone want to build one of those?

There are some who believe that wet decks and unstable platforms in
stern seas are a plus. It's a kind of "macho" thing.

Not to mention any names of course, but a set of initials might just
look like...

Well, let's just leave it at that.

Plus, based on Gene's story, they make good artificial reefs. :)



Speaking of wet decks, this is a 22' Bay Ranger:

http://tinyurl.com/2rlax5

Specs say it is only 16.5" deep from the cockpit sole to the
gunnels...couple of interesting broadsides, and glug, glug, glug.

Nice boat for the Florida flats or the North Florida ICW...I'd certainly
not take it out in the ocean or a big bay.


Tell you what - let's do a little "test".

I'll bring my Ranger down there when I leave for SC next week and on
my way back, we'll put your Parker up against my Ranger in some heavy
wakes or seas.

Broadside. I guarentee you I will be nice and dry and you will be
soaked. No boots - deck shoes for evidence.

And just for giggles, let's see if your 150 Yamaha can pull the stern
of my Ranger under. Then we'll see if my ETEC can pull the stern of
your Parker under.

How 'bout it? Up for it? :)


I'd like to see a test between the ETEC 150 hp and a 140hp (3.0) GM/
Mercuiser.

Too far away, but I'd put my little chris craft up to the test.


Reginald P. Smithers III October 8th 07 08:06 PM

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Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Mon, 08 Oct 2007 11:48:00 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
wrote:

No it doesn't bother me at all for anyone to ask me any question at all.


What is the sound of one hand clapping?


Answer:

Secondly, if you are lost and come to a fork in the road, which one do
you take?


Answer: The right one




Reginald P. Smithers III October 8th 07 08:09 PM

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HK wrote:
Wayne.B wrote:
On Mon, 08 Oct 2007 13:17:17 -0400, HK wrote:

Of course. Tom knows his ****. He's just trying to imitate one of the
departed, aka Skipper.


If Skipper is "departed" than it's time for lobsta bote pictures.



Departed from here, not from life. If you're on the Miles River, you're
a lot closer to the lobsta boat than you know.


Wayne, that infamous lobsta boat is in your neighborhood, snap a picture
of it.

Reginald P. Smithers III October 8th 07 08:10 PM

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HK wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
HK wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
wrote:
On Oct 8, 10:35 am, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
wrote:
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Mon, 08 Oct 2007 12:10:50 -0000, shipmk
wrote:
-Special Purpose Vessels: Research Vessel, Training Ship, Floating
Dock, Floating Crane, Pleasure Boat, Hospital Ship, Patrol Boat
Can you build a low transom 21 foot center console?
Why would anyone want to build one of those?


Fishermen love em'





They add structure to the bottom...


But they are not big enough to really provide a good home for the
monster fish. Now if you tie together about 10 of them, now that
would be some good structure.



This coming from Reggie, a guy who brownstains his shorts when other
posters here ask about his boat.


No it doesn't bother me at all for anyone to ask me any question at all.



Right...because you won't offer up the information. As many have
suggested, all you are here for is to insult others.


I had no idea I had insulted you, what did I say?

HK October 8th 07 08:15 PM

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Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Mon, 08 Oct 2007 11:48:00 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
wrote:

No it doesn't bother me at all for anyone to ask me any question at all.


What is the sound of one hand clapping?


Answer:

Secondly, if you are lost and come to a fork in the road, which one do
you take?


Answer: The right one





Unfortunately, the few parkers I have seen with diesels have been I/O's,
which I would not touch with a 10' Pole...or Ukrainian.

I talked to some folks at the Parker factory about a "straight" diesel,
but was told there was really no reason for one now, what with the high
horsepower four cycle outboards. This was three or four years ago.

Sometime next year Parker will be introducing a new, 34' pilot house
with twin 350 hp Yamaha outboards. At that size and weight, it ain't a
boat I would want to trailer or operate with outboards. A 600 hp
straight diesel with a small keel/prop pocket, though, would be very
nice in that boat.

Short Wave Sportfishing October 8th 07 08:42 PM

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On Mon, 08 Oct 2007 12:21:15 -0400, HK wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Mon, 08 Oct 2007 11:56:05 -0400, HK wrote:


Oh the first part makes perfect sense, as my boat, though a foot shorter
than yours (you have a 22' boat, right?), it is about a foot deeper from
the deck to the gunnels, has the typical "Carolina flare," has 21
degrees of deadrise at the transom and probably weighs about 1000 pounds
more. Right. Makes perfect sense, even though what you are saying
violates the laws of physics. Yep, your boat is going to be drier in
heavy seas. Sure it is.


20' and I can see you are already backing down.

Chicken. :)

The second part would be fun if we had the same sized engines on the
transom...don't you have a 300 hp deadTec on that wet little boat? :}

I only have a 150.


200 HO.

I'll only go half throttle. :)



You have the 20' SmallBayRanger? Ranger must have dropped that model, as
the 20-footer is not rated for 200 horsepower. Unless you are exceeding
the recommended maximum.


Finally figured it out - heh...

Mines rated for 225 and is a completely different boat from the "new"
bay boats.

Are the dimensions on your boat, but for length, about the same as the
22-footer? If so, you have a very wide, fairly flat-bottomed, modified
vee hull. Hard riding in the chop and wet.


Hey - ask Scott. He's been in some crap with me in it.

I've seen Ranger bay boats out on nice days. How many Parker 2100CC's
have you seen? Probably none. There are plenty of Parker 21's out there,
but they mostly are the "SE" models. Different boat.


A few actually - very few, but a few.

However, Parker's aren't that unique in design - they are pretty much
the same old same old when it comes to design - pretty standard boat.

No style, no class. :)

I'm sorry, that wasn't fair.

I apologize.

~~ snerk ~~

Short Wave Sportfishing October 8th 07 08:48 PM

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On Mon, 08 Oct 2007 12:37:31 -0400, HK wrote:

Chuck Gould wrote:
On Oct 8, 9:13?am, Short Wave Sportfishing
I'll only go half throttle. :)


Sounds like a half fast compromise to me. :-)


On the other hand, experiments and demonstrations that promise to
violate the laws of physics often are interesting. Tom has proposed one.


But Harry - think of the opportunity to "prove" by experimentation
those very laws of physics that you claim make your Parker a superior
boat.

Dude - think of the bragging rights!!

And you just know that I'll do it becasue I'm like Johnny Damon - I'm
KRAZZZZY!!! :)

HK October 8th 07 08:49 PM

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Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Mon, 08 Oct 2007 12:21:15 -0400, HK wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Mon, 08 Oct 2007 11:56:05 -0400, HK wrote:

Oh the first part makes perfect sense, as my boat, though a foot shorter
than yours (you have a 22' boat, right?), it is about a foot deeper from
the deck to the gunnels, has the typical "Carolina flare," has 21
degrees of deadrise at the transom and probably weighs about 1000 pounds
more. Right. Makes perfect sense, even though what you are saying
violates the laws of physics. Yep, your boat is going to be drier in
heavy seas. Sure it is.
20' and I can see you are already backing down.

Chicken. :)

The second part would be fun if we had the same sized engines on the
transom...don't you have a 300 hp deadTec on that wet little boat? :}

I only have a 150.
200 HO.

I'll only go half throttle. :)


You have the 20' SmallBayRanger? Ranger must have dropped that model, as
the 20-footer is not rated for 200 horsepower. Unless you are exceeding
the recommended maximum.


Finally figured it out - heh...

Mines rated for 225 and is a completely different boat from the "new"
bay boats.

Are the dimensions on your boat, but for length, about the same as the
22-footer? If so, you have a very wide, fairly flat-bottomed, modified
vee hull. Hard riding in the chop and wet.


Hey - ask Scott. He's been in some crap with me in it.

I've seen Ranger bay boats out on nice days. How many Parker 2100CC's
have you seen? Probably none. There are plenty of Parker 21's out there,
but they mostly are the "SE" models. Different boat.


A few actually - very few, but a few.

However, Parker's aren't that unique in design - they are pretty much
the same old same old when it comes to design - pretty standard boat.

No style, no class. :)

I'm sorry, that wasn't fair.

I apologize.

~~ snerk ~~



No glitz on Parkers, for sure. That's what is most endearing to me.
Is your Ranger finished in metalflake?

Short Wave Sportfishing October 8th 07 08:51 PM

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On Mon, 08 Oct 2007 13:56:57 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Mon, 08 Oct 2007 15:52:24 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

And just for giggles, let's see if your 150 Yamaha can pull the stern
of my Ranger under. Then we'll see if my ETEC can pull the stern of
your Parker under.

How 'bout it? Up for it? :)


Where can we buy tickets for this event?


There we go Harry - we can make some money off of this deal.

I'll provide video service and additional spectator seating..


Stadium seating no less - just like Bob Uecker - "Ow - must be down
the front row..."

Heh, heh, heh...


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