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"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message ... On Mon, 08 Oct 2007 20:44:31 -0400, Wayne.B wrote: On Tue, 09 Oct 2007 00:06:06 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: Is it easier to manuever a boat with twin engines with two rudders? What would be the difference if it had one rudder? Or if you have a single engine and two rudders? In close quarters maneuvering it's nice to have the prop wash blasting directly against the rudder, especially important with a single engine boat but useful even with twins. The rudder deflects the prop wash and creates a lateral (rotational) force. So if I read that correctly, and I might not be, using a single rudder would be similar to applying vectored thrust as you do with an outboard, but not so with twin rudders? You get the equivalent of vectored thrust only when moving forward .... not in reverse as in an I/O or outboard. Moving backwards, rudder position has little or no affect on steerage. A single, like the GB, requires use of the "back and fill" technique to back into a slip .... along with a little bit of prop walk ... although on our GB the prop walk isn't much. Rudders on twins, like the Navigator, also only work moving forward, but you use the engines and transmission positions to "steer" the boat backwards ..... similar to how a bobcat is driven. Often, on large boats with twins, you will see the captain standing and facing backwards, with his arms behind his back and hands on the transmission levers. You don't use the helm, nor rarely the throttles unless you get a bit of wind and need to straighten out a bit. Hey .... I assumed you've operated twin inboards on a larger boat before. If you haven't ... come on up to Kingman some day and we'll take the Navigator out and you can give it a whirl. Eisboch |
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"Wayne.B" wrote in message ... On Mon, 08 Oct 2007 19:01:17 -0400, HK wrote: As I said previously, I think the smaller GBs have pretty lines. The big ones seem ungainly to me. That's funny, from a distance they all look alike. He's bustin' your balls. Your 49 looks like a bigger version of our 36 and I agree, from 50 to 100 yards you couldn't tell the difference. The previous owner of our GB has his replacement .... a GB 49 sitting at the dock near where I am now sitting on the Navigator. It's a beautiful boat with all the classic lines of a traditional Grand Banks, but with more room and twin engines. A Grand Banks style boat is something that you learn to appreciate and like over time. Once you get beyond the standard "too slow, too much teak, too much upkeep, too old" impressions and start to use it, you begin to appreciate the tradition, quality and most importantly ... the experience of seasoned boatbuilders. There's a major benefit to not making major style changes every year like mass production boats. All the kinks have been worked out over 40 something years. Running a slow GB is simply a different type of boating experience and can be quite enjoyable. Eisboch |
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On Tue, 9 Oct 2007 06:12:17 -0400, "Eisboch"
wrote: Hey .... I assumed you've operated twin inboards on a larger boat before. If you haven't ... come on up to Kingman some day and we'll take the Navigator out and you can give it a whirl. Nope - my experience is strictly with twin outboards on a wide beam Contender. I've been aboard inboard boats with twins, b ut never as Captain. I will probably take you up on that - I'll drop you a note via email. |
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"Wayne.B" wrote in message ... On Mon, 08 Oct 2007 19:01:17 -0400, HK wrote: As I said previously, I think the smaller GBs have pretty lines. The big ones seem ungainly to me. That's funny, from a distance they all look alike. He's bustin' your balls. Your 49 looks like a bigger version of our 36 and I agree, from 50 to 100 yards you couldn't tell the difference. The previous owner of our GB has his replacement .... a GB 49 sitting at the dock near where I am now sitting on the Navigator. It's a beautiful boat with all the classic lines of a traditional Grand Banks, but with more room and twin engines. A Grand Banks style boat is something that you learn to appreciate and like over time. Once you get beyond the standard "too slow, too much teak, too much upkeep, too old" impressions and start to use it, you begin to appreciate the tradition, quality and most importantly ... the experience of seasoned boatbuilders. There's a major benefit to not making major style changes every year like mass production boats. All the kinks have been worked out over 40 something years. Running a slow GB is simply a different type of boating experience and can be quite enjoyable. Eisboch When I want to enjoy a slow boat, I take the canoe out for a spin on the river. Not only is it quieter than a GB RV, there's no exhaust smell, you're down at the water's level, and you get a bit of decent exercise, too. |
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"HK" wrote in message . .. When I want to enjoy a slow boat, I take the canoe out for a spin on the river. Not only is it quieter than a GB RV, there's no exhaust smell, you're down at the water's level, and you get a bit of decent exercise, too. Nothing wrong with that .... I often do the same with my Kayak. Only difference is, I can carry the Kayak with me where ever I go, I can return to the GB and get dry when it starts to rain, cook up something to eat and catch a nice, afternoon nap in the aft cabin. Try that in your canoe. Eisboch |
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"HK" wrote in message . .. When I want to enjoy a slow boat, I take the canoe out for a spin on the river. Not only is it quieter than a GB RV, there's no exhaust smell, you're down at the water's level, and you get a bit of decent exercise, too. Nothing wrong with that .... I often do the same with my Kayak. Only difference is, I can carry the Kayak with me where ever I go, I can return to the GB and get dry when it starts to rain, cook up something to eat and catch a nice, afternoon nap in the aft cabin. Try that in your canoe. Eisboch Ahh, I keep my canoe out at the Shenandoah, at a friend's little farm. When I return from canoeing, I can warm up by the fire, cook anything I please, and take a nap in the hammock on the screened porch, or crawl into one of the beds. |
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"HK" wrote in message ... Eisboch wrote: "HK" wrote in message . .. When I want to enjoy a slow boat, I take the canoe out for a spin on the river. Not only is it quieter than a GB RV, there's no exhaust smell, you're down at the water's level, and you get a bit of decent exercise, too. Nothing wrong with that .... I often do the same with my Kayak. Only difference is, I can carry the Kayak with me where ever I go, I can return to the GB and get dry when it starts to rain, cook up something to eat and catch a nice, afternoon nap in the aft cabin. Try that in your canoe. Eisboch Ahh, I keep my canoe out at the Shenandoah, at a friend's little farm. When I return from canoeing, I can warm up by the fire, cook anything I please, and take a nap in the hammock on the screened porch, or crawl into one of the beds. Why does this make me think of Goldilocks and the three old bears? -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
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On Tue, 9 Oct 2007 08:09:57 -0400, "Jim" wrote:
"HK" wrote in message ... Eisboch wrote: "HK" wrote in message . .. When I want to enjoy a slow boat, I take the canoe out for a spin on the river. Not only is it quieter than a GB RV, there's no exhaust smell, you're down at the water's level, and you get a bit of decent exercise, too. Nothing wrong with that .... I often do the same with my Kayak. Only difference is, I can carry the Kayak with me where ever I go, I can return to the GB and get dry when it starts to rain, cook up something to eat and catch a nice, afternoon nap in the aft cabin. Try that in your canoe. Eisboch Ahh, I keep my canoe out at the Shenandoah, at a friend's little farm. When I return from canoeing, I can warm up by the fire, cook anything I please, and take a nap in the hammock on the screened porch, or crawl into one of the beds. Why does this make me think of Goldilocks and the three old bears? Starring Harry as Goldilocks? Sure would explain a lot. :) |
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Jim wrote:
"HK" wrote in message ... Eisboch wrote: "HK" wrote in message . .. When I want to enjoy a slow boat, I take the canoe out for a spin on the river. Not only is it quieter than a GB RV, there's no exhaust smell, you're down at the water's level, and you get a bit of decent exercise, too. Nothing wrong with that .... I often do the same with my Kayak. Only difference is, I can carry the Kayak with me where ever I go, I can return to the GB and get dry when it starts to rain, cook up something to eat and catch a nice, afternoon nap in the aft cabin. Try that in your canoe. Eisboch Ahh, I keep my canoe out at the Shenandoah, at a friend's little farm. When I return from canoeing, I can warm up by the fire, cook anything I please, and take a nap in the hammock on the screened porch, or crawl into one of the beds. Why does this make me think of Goldilocks and the three old bears? Yep. We "gots" bears, too. |
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On Tue, 9 Oct 2007 08:09:57 -0400, "Jim" wrote: "HK" wrote in message ... Eisboch wrote: "HK" wrote in message . .. When I want to enjoy a slow boat, I take the canoe out for a spin on the river. Not only is it quieter than a GB RV, there's no exhaust smell, you're down at the water's level, and you get a bit of decent exercise, too. Nothing wrong with that .... I often do the same with my Kayak. Only difference is, I can carry the Kayak with me where ever I go, I can return to the GB and get dry when it starts to rain, cook up something to eat and catch a nice, afternoon nap in the aft cabin. Try that in your canoe. Eisboch Ahh, I keep my canoe out at the Shenandoah, at a friend's little farm. When I return from canoeing, I can warm up by the fire, cook anything I please, and take a nap in the hammock on the screened porch, or crawl into one of the beds. Why does this make me think of Goldilocks and the three old bears? Starring Harry as Goldilocks? Sure would explain a lot. :) I use my long blonde hair to tie myself to the cleats of those low-sided Ranger bay boats, so that when we are broadsided by a 2' wave, I don't get washed overboard. |
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"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message ... On Tue, 9 Oct 2007 08:09:57 -0400, "Jim" wrote: "HK" wrote in message ... Eisboch wrote: "HK" wrote in message . .. When I want to enjoy a slow boat, I take the canoe out for a spin on the river. Not only is it quieter than a GB RV, there's no exhaust smell, you're down at the water's level, and you get a bit of decent exercise, too. Nothing wrong with that .... I often do the same with my Kayak. Only difference is, I can carry the Kayak with me where ever I go, I can return to the GB and get dry when it starts to rain, cook up something to eat and catch a nice, afternoon nap in the aft cabin. Try that in your canoe. Eisboch Ahh, I keep my canoe out at the Shenandoah, at a friend's little farm. When I return from canoeing, I can warm up by the fire, cook anything I please, and take a nap in the hammock on the screened porch, or crawl into one of the beds. Why does this make me think of Goldilocks and the three old bears? Starring Harry as Goldilocks? Sure would explain a lot. :) Twern't her that wus feeding her own self and sleepin around. Guess again? Speekin abowt sleepin around. Hairy; Dus yur wifey know abour this Shenandoah farm place? -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
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"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message ... On Tue, 9 Oct 2007 08:09:57 -0400, "Jim" wrote: "HK" wrote in message ... Eisboch wrote: "HK" wrote in message . .. When I want to enjoy a slow boat, I take the canoe out for a spin on the river. Not only is it quieter than a GB RV, there's no exhaust smell, you're down at the water's level, and you get a bit of decent exercise, too. Nothing wrong with that .... I often do the same with my Kayak. Only difference is, I can carry the Kayak with me where ever I go, I can return to the GB and get dry when it starts to rain, cook up something to eat and catch a nice, afternoon nap in the aft cabin. Try that in your canoe. Eisboch Ahh, I keep my canoe out at the Shenandoah, at a friend's little farm. When I return from canoeing, I can warm up by the fire, cook anything I please, and take a nap in the hammock on the screened porch, or crawl into one of the beds. Why does this make me think of Goldilocks and the three old bears? Starring Harry as Goldilocks? Sure would explain a lot. :) Twern't her that wus feeding her own self and sleepin around. Guess again? Speekin abowt sleepin around. Hairy; Dus yur wifey know abour this Shenandoah farm place? Sure...she's been there. It's mostly a guy hangout, though, for shootin', fishin', canoein', and for those who drink, drinkin'. I'm not much into drinkin', though. In the past two years, we've entirely filled up a 55-gallon drum with .22LR, 9 mm, 40S&W, .45ACP, and various rifle brass. We had to start another barrel. Supposedly a local friend is supposed to show up some day with a forklift and load the barrel onto a truck so we can drive it to a metals dealer. |
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"Tim" wrote in message ps.com... shipmk wrote: we Build to your Oder! I think I'll pass. After all... My oder inproved when I switch from Brut, to Old Spice... Speaking of Brut .... (I think it was Brut) ..... Did you hear about the guy that splashed it on his face, lit up a cigarette and caught fire? Apparently it remains "flammable" for a period of time after you first put it on. Eisboch |
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On Oct 9, 8:49 am, HK wrote:
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: On Tue, 9 Oct 2007 08:09:57 -0400, "Jim" wrote: "HK" wrote in message ... Eisboch wrote: "HK" wrote in message news:wPWdnYITWJhSx5banZ2dnUVZ_t_inZ2d@comcast. com... When I want to enjoy a slow boat, I take the canoe out for a spin on the river. Not only is it quieter than a GB RV, there's no exhaust smell, you're down at the water's level, and you get a bit of decent exercise, too. Nothing wrong with that .... I often do the same with my Kayak. Only difference is, I can carry the Kayak with me where ever I go, I can return to the GB and get dry when it starts to rain, cook up something to eat and catch a nice, afternoon nap in the aft cabin. Try that in your canoe. Eisboch Ahh, I keep my canoe out at the Shenandoah, at a friend's little farm. When I return from canoeing, I can warm up by the fire, cook anything I please, and take a nap in the hammock on the screened porch, or crawl into one of the beds. Why does this make me think of Goldilocks and the three old bears? Starring Harry as Goldilocks? Sure would explain a lot. :) I use my long blonde hair to tie myself to the cleats of those low-sided Ranger bay boats, so that when we are broadsided by a 2' wave, I don't get washed overboard.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - I think you need to do a little research. Look up hull design, and check into primary and secondary stability and come back and talk about the Parker VS Ranger hulls;) |
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On Oct 9, 10:00 am, HK wrote:
.. We were talking ride quality and dryness of ride.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - That is exactly why you need to look up primary stability, Here is a hint. Your boat has secondary stability, Tom's has primary... |
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Reginald P. Smithers III wrote: HK wrote: wrote: On Oct 9, 8:49 am, HK wrote: Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: On Tue, 9 Oct 2007 08:09:57 -0400, "Jim" wrote: "HK" wrote in message ... Eisboch wrote: "HK" wrote in message . .. When I want to enjoy a slow boat, I take the canoe out for a spin on the river. Not only is it quieter than a GB RV, there's no exhaust smell, you're down at the water's level, and you get a bit of decent exercise, too. Nothing wrong with that .... I often do the same with my Kayak. Only difference is, I can carry the Kayak with me where ever I go, I can return to the GB and get dry when it starts to rain, cook up something to eat and catch a nice, afternoon nap in the aft cabin. Try that in your canoe. Eisboch Ahh, I keep my canoe out at the Shenandoah, at a friend's little farm. When I return from canoeing, I can warm up by the fire, cook anything I please, and take a nap in the hammock on the screened porch, or crawl into one of the beds. Why does this make me think of Goldilocks and the three old bears? Starring Harry as Goldilocks? Sure would explain a lot. :) I use my long blonde hair to tie myself to the cleats of those low-sided Ranger bay boats, so that when we are broadsided by a 2' wave, I don't get washed overboard.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - I think you need to do a little research. Look up hull design, and check into primary and secondary stability and come back and talk about the Parker VS Ranger hulls;) Ranger used to make some stout sal****er boats. Roland Martin had one and I got a ride on it once. But they dropped those boats. The new Ranger bay boats look live everyone else's bay boats. I don't know the specs of Tom's, as it apparently has been dropped from production. "Stability" isn't under discussion here, anyway. We were talking ride quality and dryness of ride. Harry, Did you give Roland any good tips? No, but he gave me some terrific advice on bassfishing at Lake O, and then hooked me up with a very good guide. We stayed at his marina, bought some nice keepsakes from his wife in the gift shop, paid $2 each for two dozen large shiners, and ate breakfast a few times in the attached coffee shop, where Roland was serving coffee seconds. At that time, Martin had a 25' Ranger with a small tower, plus an assortment of other boats he kept on the site. Roland Martin is a first-class guy. He'd probably let you book a room at his marina, if he's still operating it. I'm sure they have at least one room reserved for your kind. Of course, you might have to show a photo ID...you'd best stay at home. Oh...and sometime in the late 1950s, I don't remember exactly when, my father and mother took a trip to a fancy resort where my father, cashing in a "prize" he won as a boat dealer, got to dance with Frances Langford. I saw an 8mm movie of it when they returned home. I am impressed. |
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On Mon, 08 Oct 2007 18:45:24 -0400, HK wrote:
It will be hard to tell it from the other 101 varieties of Chesapeake Bay crabbers however without our LT hero in it, and he seems firmly parked in his parka. If you head down the Miles and turn "left" towards the bridge, there are aren't many... Does the name AJ Clark mean anything to you? |
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On Mon, 08 Oct 2007 18:45:24 -0400, HK wrote: It will be hard to tell it from the other 101 varieties of Chesapeake Bay crabbers however without our LT hero in it, and he seems firmly parked in his parka. If you head down the Miles and turn "left" towards the bridge, there are aren't many... Does the name AJ Clark mean anything to you? Sure does. Big time contractor hereabouts. Lives in the Easton area. Why, is he related to you? |
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"Eisboch" wrote in message ... "Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message ... On Mon, 8 Oct 2007 19:49:19 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote: The Navigator has two rudders. (Last time I checked) This may sound like a really stupid question, but I honestly don't know the answer. Is it easier to manuever a boat with twin engines with two rudders? What would be the difference if it had one rudder? Or if you have a single engine and two rudders? I am not sure I understand your question, but a single engined boat like the GB has one rudder, a twin engined boat like the Navigator has two rudders. On a power boat, the rudder is placed directly behind the prop(s) and it's purpose is to direct the prop wash to move the stern and provide steerage. It's not the same as a sailboat that would have a much bigger rudder and depends on the movement of the boat to steer, rather than the prop wash. Eisboch But you already knew that. Not all. the Titanic had 3 screws and one rudder. Was a major reason that it crashed after the short warning of the iceberg ahead. They tried to stop the ship and when the engines went to reverse, there was no steerage. Small rudder and no real flow over it. |
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"Calif Bill" wrote in message ... "Eisboch" wrote in message ... "Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message ... On Mon, 8 Oct 2007 19:49:19 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote: The Navigator has two rudders. (Last time I checked) This may sound like a really stupid question, but I honestly don't know the answer. Is it easier to manuever a boat with twin engines with two rudders? What would be the difference if it had one rudder? Or if you have a single engine and two rudders? I am not sure I understand your question, but a single engined boat like the GB has one rudder, a twin engined boat like the Navigator has two rudders. On a power boat, the rudder is placed directly behind the prop(s) and it's purpose is to direct the prop wash to move the stern and provide steerage. It's not the same as a sailboat that would have a much bigger rudder and depends on the movement of the boat to steer, rather than the prop wash. Eisboch But you already knew that. Not all. the Titanic had 3 screws and one rudder. Was a major reason that it crashed after the short warning of the iceberg ahead. They tried to stop the ship and when the engines went to reverse, there was no steerage. Small rudder and no real flow over it. Huh? Eisboch |
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On Tue, 09 Oct 2007 12:46:56 -0400, HK wrote:
Sure does. Big time contractor hereabouts. Lives in the Easton area. Why, is he related to you? He owns the only "Lobsta Yacht" for miles around on the Miles River. |
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On Tue, 09 Oct 2007 11:35:42 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
wrote: Roland Martin is a first-class guy. He'd probably let you book a room at his marina, if he's still operating it. I'm sure they have at least one room reserved for your kind. Of course, you might have to show a photo ID...you'd best stay at home. Oh...and sometime in the late 1950s, I don't remember exactly when, my father and mother took a trip to a fancy resort where my father, cashing in a "prize" he won as a boat dealer, got to dance with Frances Langford. I saw an 8mm movie of it when they returned home. I am impressed. Roland Martin's Marina is a cool place with a *lot* of local color. Bring bug spray. We lent ours to the band two years ago so they could keep playing. Unfortunately the main channel through Lake O is about 1.5 feet below our run aground depth at the moment. Hello Florida Keys. |
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On Tue, 09 Oct 2007 12:46:56 -0400, HK wrote: Sure does. Big time contractor hereabouts. Lives in the Easton area. Why, is he related to you? He owns the only "Lobsta Yacht" for miles around on the Miles River. That's absurd. There are at least a half-dozen berthed in the inner harbor of St. Micheals alone, and there are a couple just outside the harbor on the north shore. And that's just in one harbor off the Miles River. There are two I know of that don't belong to Clark near the bridge, including one kept on a lift. |
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On Tue, 09 Oct 2007 17:30:18 -0400, HK wrote:
There are two I know of that don't belong to Clark near the bridge, including one kept on a lift. I've seen that one also. In my opinion, Clark's is the only true lobsta boat in the bunch, and it was built by Ellis in Maine. That makes it a thoroughbred. http://www.ellisboat.com/ |
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On Tue, 09 Oct 2007 17:30:18 -0400, HK wrote: There are two I know of that don't belong to Clark near the bridge, including one kept on a lift. I've seen that one also. In my opinion, Clark's is the only true lobsta boat in the bunch, and it was built by Ellis in Maine. That makes it a thoroughbred. http://www.ellisboat.com/ Wayne, Since you are just a few miles from Harry's Lobster Boat, you really should go by and see it. I understand it is very impressive in a Zimmerman like way. |
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On Tue, 09 Oct 2007 17:30:18 -0400, HK wrote: There are two I know of that don't belong to Clark near the bridge, including one kept on a lift. I've seen that one also. In my opinion, Clark's is the only true lobsta boat in the bunch, and it was built by Ellis in Maine. That makes it a thoroughbred. http://www.ellisboat.com/ Well, opinions are like a**holes, eh? Everyone has one. This is the more typical lobster boat: http://www.ellisboat.com/yankee36.php I like some of Spencer Lincoln's full cabin models better. |
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On Tue, 09 Oct 2007 17:47:28 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
wrote: Since you are just a few miles from Harry's Lobster Boat, you really should go by and see it. I understand it is very impressive in a Zimmerman like way. I found the perfect candidate pretty much where Harry said it was. The only problem is that Harry doesn't own it, and it is parked in front of a multi-million $$$ estate. The fellow who does own it also runs a very large construction business in Bethesda, MD and surely does not have time for 20 hours/day on the internet the way we do. |
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Wayne.B wrote:
On Tue, 09 Oct 2007 17:47:28 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III" wrote: Since you are just a few miles from Harry's Lobster Boat, you really should go by and see it. I understand it is very impressive in a Zimmerman like way. I found the perfect candidate pretty much where Harry said it was. The only problem is that Harry doesn't own it, and it is parked in front of a multi-million $$$ estate. The fellow who does own it also runs a very large construction business in Bethesda, MD and surely does not have time for 20 hours/day on the internet the way we do. Did it resemble a Zimmerman Lobster Boat, they really are the best. |
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"Eisboch" wrote in message ... "Calif Bill" wrote in message ... "Eisboch" wrote in message ... "Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message ... On Mon, 8 Oct 2007 19:49:19 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote: The Navigator has two rudders. (Last time I checked) This may sound like a really stupid question, but I honestly don't know the answer. Is it easier to manuever a boat with twin engines with two rudders? What would be the difference if it had one rudder? Or if you have a single engine and two rudders? I am not sure I understand your question, but a single engined boat like the GB has one rudder, a twin engined boat like the Navigator has two rudders. On a power boat, the rudder is placed directly behind the prop(s) and it's purpose is to direct the prop wash to move the stern and provide steerage. It's not the same as a sailboat that would have a much bigger rudder and depends on the movement of the boat to steer, rather than the prop wash. Eisboch But you already knew that. Not all. the Titanic had 3 screws and one rudder. Was a major reason that it crashed after the short warning of the iceberg ahead. They tried to stop the ship and when the engines went to reverse, there was no steerage. Small rudder and no real flow over it. Huh? Eisboch You said twins have 2 rudders. The titanic was a triple and they had only 1 rudder. When the iceberg was sighted they turned and then tried to reverse. The ship only turned enough to miss the exposed part of the iceberg and 300' of the ship was opened underwater. If they had kept it in forward, then they would have turned enough to miss the berg completely. Small rudder and the main prop in front of the rudder was stopped. Little turning moment. |
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HK wrote:
No it doesn't bother me at all for anyone to ask me any question at all. Right...because you won't offer up the information. As many have suggested, all you are here for is to insult others. Are you kidding? Does he pretend to have an imaginary boat, Harry? You should know which posts to ignore. Dan |
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Dan wrote:
HK wrote: No it doesn't bother me at all for anyone to ask me any question at all. Right...because you won't offer up the information. As many have suggested, all you are here for is to insult others. Are you kidding? Does he pretend to have an imaginary boat, Harry? You should know which posts to ignore. Dan I want to know what information Harry wants. |
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