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On Wed, 03 Oct 2007 17:11:27 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
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Tom can explain how 62 calibre equates to 76mm. He knows a lot about
guns.

For small arms, a number like .45 cal means .45 of an inch. Assuming big
guns are the same way, all you need to do is convert to millimeters.


In naval rifles "caliber" refers to the barrel length as a ratio to
its bore. a 5"/38 is 5" bore and 38 times that, long. (190")
The same is true of a 3"/50 or a 16"/45 (the North Carolina class
battleship gun) of the 16"/50 (used on the Iowa class ship)
There are also 3 classes of ammo.
The 3"/50 uses "fixed" ammo. A complete round like small arms ammo.
The 5" guns use semi-fixed ammo, a shell casing with the propellant
and a separate projectile. This gives you a lot more versitility in
your fire.
The big guns like the 16" use bags of powder and the projectile. This
is mostly to make it manageable for the crew but it does allow more
versitility too..


OK, so what's a 76mm gun, then?




Why, it is a gun a silly millimeter larger than a 75 millimeter gun.

On Wed, 03 Oct 2007 12:12:17 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Wed, 03 Oct 2007 10:17:41 -0500, John H.
wrote:

It is a 25mm cannon. Never heard of a fish cannon. Potato gun, but not
fish cannon.


Wrong. It is a 62 caliber 76mm Otobreda.

I'm a believer.

It certainly looks a lot bigger than 25mm, that's only 1 inch.

I don't understand the 62 caliber reference at all.

Well, I looked it up, and it is called that. It's also called a 3" gun.
Maybe Tom can explain how 62 calibre equates to 76mm. He knows a lot about
guns.

On Wed, 03 Oct 2007 12:14:47 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Wed, 03 Oct 2007 10:12:00 -0400, wrote:

5"/54. That replaced the 5"/38 the Navy and CG used since the days of
coal fired ships. The extra barrel length increased the range about
5000 meters and that gun is auto loading. It also has a much better
fire control system.

Radar controlled and pitch/roll compensated I assume? What is the
firing rate?

http://www.futura-dtp.dk/FLEET/Artilleri/76oto.html

Appears to be 80 rounds per minute, but up to 120 on high rate.

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:

I have no idea what a fish cannon is unless you are talking down
riggers.

I've made a spud gun before, fueled by hair spray and ignited with a
piezo lighter..

launched a Russell 'tater really well.

On Wed, 03 Oct 2007 17:11:27 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"John H." wrote in message
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On Wed, 03 Oct 2007 12:12:17 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Wed, 03 Oct 2007 10:17:41 -0500, John H.
wrote:

It is a 25mm cannon. Never heard of a fish cannon. Potato gun, but
not
fish cannon.


Wrong. It is a 62 caliber 76mm Otobreda.

I'm a believer.

It certainly looks a lot bigger than 25mm, that's only 1 inch.

I don't understand the 62 caliber reference at all.

Well, I looked it up, and it is called that. It's also called a 3" gun.
Maybe Tom can explain how 62 calibre equates to 76mm. He knows a lot about
guns.


For small arms, a number like .45 cal means .45 of an inch. Assuming big
guns are the same way, all you need to do is convert to millimeters.


Then 62calibre would be 62". Doesn't seem quite right.

On Wed, 03 Oct 2007 13:30:50 -0400, wrote:

On Wed, 03 Oct 2007 17:11:27 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

Tom can explain how 62 calibre equates to 76mm. He knows a lot about
guns.


For small arms, a number like .45 cal means .45 of an inch. Assuming big
guns are the same way, all you need to do is convert to millimeters.



In naval rifles "caliber" refers to the barrel length as a ratio to
its bore. a 5"/38 is 5" bore and 38 times that, long. (190")
The same is true of a 3"/50 or a 16"/45 (the North Carolina class
battleship gun) of the 16"/50 (used on the Iowa class ship)
There are also 3 classes of ammo.
The 3"/50 uses "fixed" ammo. A complete round like small arms ammo.
The 5" guns use semi-fixed ammo, a shell casing with the propellant
and a separate projectile. This gives you a lot more versitility in
your fire.
The big guns like the 16" use bags of powder and the projectile. This
is mostly to make it manageable for the crew but it does allow more
versitility too..

Thank you.

On Wed, 03 Oct 2007 12:12:17 -0400, Wayne.B penned the following well
considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:

On Wed, 03 Oct 2007 10:17:41 -0500, John H.
wrote:

It is a 25mm cannon. Never heard of a fish cannon. Potato gun, but not
fish cannon.


Wrong. It is a 62 caliber 76mm Otobreda.

I'm a believer.

It certainly looks a lot bigger than 25mm, that's only 1 inch.

I don't understand the 62 caliber reference at all.

Naval Guns are described in that manner.

That gun fires 76mm shells or 2.992 inches; the length of the barrel
is 62 times the bore diameter or 185.5 inches(15'-5") long.

The North Carolina class battleship has 45 caliber 16 inch guns, the
Iowa class sported 50 caliber 16 inch guns.

http://www.geocities.com/fort_tilden/16ingun.html

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On Oct 2, 5:35 pm, Chuck Gould wrote:


Sometimes you hear about rednecks supposedly doing some catfishin'
with dynamite. Probably 99% urban legend, but the results would be
similar to Grandpa's depth charges- if on a smaller scale.

Well around here the local rednecks are much more stealth, than to use
things that make a big BOOM! What is the most illegal way to fish in
these parts? find an old crank telephone generator, attach a wire to
the output and throw it over one side of the boat, attach a ground
wire to the frame of thee generator, and throw it over theotherside.
then crank like heck.

Fish start bellying up to the top.

I've personally never been involved with such play, but know several
who have.

Getting caught by the US or IL-DOC, isn't a pretty sight , people have
been known to get their boats, trucks, etc. confiscated, PLUS major
strains on the wallet for fines and the threat of jail time.

Best not to mess with it.

On Oct 3, 7:08 am, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Wed, 03 Oct 2007 08:00:36 -0500, John H.
wrote:





On Wed, 03 Oct 2007 11:32:02 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

On Wed, 03 Oct 2007 06:55:33 -0500, John H.
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On Tue, 2 Oct 2007 21:30:31 -0700, "CalifBill"
wrote:

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On Tue, 02 Oct 2007 23:06:24 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
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On Tue, 02 Oct 2007 22:39:30 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"Chuck Gould" wrote in message
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On Oct 2, 3:26?pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:
I like that feature, but I don't see it in the West Marine
catalog.http://cgvi.uscg.mil/media/main.php?..._imageViewsInd...

No reference to a fish cannon at your link. ???

But it may be similar to a "herring charge". When my granddad served
on destroyer escorts in the British Navy, WWI, detecting a German U
boat always resulted in fresh fish for dinner. In his personal log
from the war, he describes how the mess hands would run out on deck
with long handled nets during depth charge runs and scoop up huge
quantities of stunned fish.

Sometimes you hear about rednecks supposedly doing some catfishin'
with dynamite. Probably 99% urban legend, but the results would be
similar to Grandpa's depth charges- if on a smaller scale.

Chuck, you have a big boat, but you can't afford new glasses? Look at
the
picture, directly above the guy in the yellow helmet. It's a fish
cannon.

I am not in the mood to explain simple things tonight. Get with the
program,
please.

I have no idea what a fish cannon is unless you are talking down
riggers.

Oh no. Not you too! :-)

Well, I've never heard of a "fish cannon". It looks like the type of
artillery that uses a rocket powered shell of some sort, but why they
would call it a fish cannon I have no idea.

Got a reference to fish cannon?

It is a 25mm cannon. Never heard of a fish cannon. Potato gun, but not
fish cannon.

I was thinking about 105mm, or maybe even 5 inch, not knowing anything
about how the things are armed.

The only reference I could find on "fish cannon" was on a gaming group
for Halo 2.

Which means this is probably Doug's very sad attempt at some sort of
"humor".

He's trying to entice us into some sort of political argument wherein 'fish
cannon' play a major role.

After hours of research, I came up with this:

http://tinyurl.com/2eyxnp

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Don't you mean "Youtz"?