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Something I've always wondered.
OK, some of my Great Grandparents came from Germany in 1858 and were legally married by the capt. of the ship before entering port into the US. (Louisiana) It was a larger passenger type vessel from what I understand. Now, question is. Can you or ANY licensed capt. perform the same duty? Just curious. Thanks! |
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Tim wrote:
Something I've always wondered. OK, some of my Great Grandparents came from Germany in 1858 and were legally married by the capt. of the ship before entering port into the US. (Louisiana) It was a larger passenger type vessel from what I understand. Now, question is. Can you or ANY licensed capt. perform the same duty? Just curious. Thanks! I have performed weddings that were good for the duration of the trip. |
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"Tim" wrote in message oups.com... Something I've always wondered. OK, some of my Great Grandparents came from Germany in 1858 and were legally married by the capt. of the ship before entering port into the US. (Louisiana) It was a larger passenger type vessel from what I understand. Now, question is. Can you or ANY licensed capt. perform the same duty? Just curious. Thanks! Not Tom, but the answer to your question is no, unless you also are certified by your state to perform marriages as a notary, justice of the peace or clergy). It used to be authorized within territorial waters, but holding a USCG license no longer (by itself) sufficient to legally marry anyone. BTW .... Anybody know where the traditional "3 mile" territorial limit originated? Answer at 11. Eisboch |
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On Oct 2, 10:28?am, "Eisboch" wrote:
BTW .... Anybody know where the traditional "3 mile" territorial limit originated? Answer at 11. Eisboch I believe it was the distance that could be practically defended by cannon fire from shoreside batteries. |
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"Chuck Gould" wrote in message ps.com... On Oct 2, 10:28?am, "Eisboch" wrote: BTW .... Anybody know where the traditional "3 mile" territorial limit originated? Answer at 11. Eisboch I believe it was the distance that could be practically defended by cannon fire from shoreside batteries. And right you are. The three mile limit was originally defined as the practical range of shoreside cannon fire. Eisboch |
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On Tue, 2 Oct 2007 13:28:01 -0400, Eisboch penned the following well
considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats: "Tim" wrote in message roups.com... Something I've always wondered. OK, some of my Great Grandparents came from Germany in 1858 and were legally married by the capt. of the ship before entering port into the US. (Louisiana) It was a larger passenger type vessel from what I understand. Now, question is. Can you or ANY licensed capt. perform the same duty? Just curious. Thanks! Not Tom, but the answer to your question is no, unless you also are certified by your state to perform marriages as a notary, justice of the peace or clergy). It used to be authorized within territorial waters, but holding a USCG license no longer (by itself) sufficient to legally marry anyone. BTW .... Anybody know where the traditional "3 mile" territorial limit originated? Maximum range of shore batteries! As for the marriage thing.... I was asked that when I first got my Captains License.... and I assumed, like everybody else, that I was then granted the power to marry..... For American captains (marrying Americans.... anything else and legality gets complicated.....) ......the captain may perform the ceremony, if they are a judge, a justice of the peace, a minister or an officially recognized official such as a Notary Public he can marry. Of course, if you read through that, you realize that the privilege to hold the ceremony has nothing to do with being a captain! In fact, there is a Federal Law that prohibits the practice by US Navy captains! http://tinyurl.com/32xrv2 -- Grady-White Gulfstream, out of Oak Island, NC. Homepage http://pamandgene.idleplay.net/ Rec.boats at Lee Yeaton's Bayguide http://www.thebayguide.com/rec.boats ----------------- www.Newsgroup-Binaries.com - *Completion*Retention*Speed* Access your favorite newsgroups from home or on the road ----------------- |
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On Tue, 02 Oct 2007 09:58:45 -0700, Tim wrote:
Something I've always wondered. OK, some of my Great Grandparents came from Germany in 1858 and were legally married by the capt. of the ship before entering port into the US. (Louisiana) It was a larger passenger type vessel from what I understand. Now, question is. Can you or ANY licensed capt. perform the same duty? Just curious. Thanks! You might be interested in an Ellis Island post I made recently, although it doesn't address this particular question! |
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John H. wrote: On Tue, 02 Oct 2007 09:58:45 -0700, Tim wrote: Something I've always wondered. OK, some of my Great Grandparents came from Germany in 1858 and were legally married by the capt. of the ship before entering port into the US. (Louisiana) It was a larger passenger type vessel from what I understand. Now, question is. Can you or ANY licensed capt. perform the same duty? Just curious. Thanks! You might be interested in an Ellis Island post I made recently, although it doesn't address this particular question! Thanks for the replies, guys. I suppose some laws have changed in the last 160 or so years. |
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On Tue, 02 Oct 2007 09:58:45 -0700, Tim wrote:
Something I've always wondered. OK, some of my Great Grandparents came from Germany in 1858 and were legally married by the capt. of the ship before entering port into the US. (Louisiana) It was a larger passenger type vessel from what I understand. Now, question is. Can you or ANY licensed capt. perform the same duty? Just curious. The short answer is no within the accepted boundries of the US unless the licensed Captain is a Notary (in some states), Justice of the Peace, Court officer (like Judge or Magistrate) or has a religious connection of some sort - as in Minister or Priest. There are legal issues regarding proper licensening, provenance, etc., that take precedence. Internationally, it depends on the country of licensening, but the last time I looked it up, only Japan and Bermuda allow marriages at sea to be legal and then only for heterosexual couples. The twist is that yes, the Captain can perform the marriage as long as one of the above mentioned State/Federal officers are present to witness the proceedings and declare them valid. The Captain is essentially the presiding officer on a court in that instance. The way it used to be viewed is that the Captain, as Master of the vessel, was akin to Royalty in that he was the sole deliberative body onboard the vessel thus had absolute authority to do as he pleased (within certain boundries). Now, if you are asking if I've ever done it, yes. I am a Justice of The Peace and a Notary Public. I've even had the chance to be a Magistrate at Traffic Court for one day - that was a blast. HANG 'EM!!! :) |
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"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message ... snip... Now, if you are asking if I've ever done it, yes. I am a Justice of The Peace and a Notary Public. I've even had the chance to be a Magistrate at Traffic Court for one day - that was a blast. HANG 'EM!!! :) Hee hee... the 'Judge Roy Bean' comes to mind.. http://www.desertusa.com/mag98/aug/papr/du_roybean.html |
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