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Hey, Capt. Tom Francis
http://www.marinersschool.com/
Get a Capt. license with no USCG exam. is this like getting a medical diploma from the University of Bohmvobia? send us the money, we send you the diploma! ??? |
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Hey, Capt. Tom Francis
Tim wrote:
http://www.marinersschool.com/ Get a Capt. license with no USCG exam. is this like getting a medical diploma from the University of Bohmvobia? send us the money, we send you the diploma! ??? It's like anything you do - you get out of it what you put into it. A lot of the USCG testing is done by organizations like this. Some teach their test, some teach the material and test against it. You can learn a lot in these classes, but they are so condensed that you end up reviewing every once in a while just to keep the knowledge ready. I took the USCG exam years ago before the sea schools and from what I understand, it's a lot harder than these tests. It's a matter of degree - how much is considered acceptable in terms of error and what not. It's one thing to be able to pass the test - it's another to have the sea time to qualify for a particular level license. I know guys who have 100 ton licenses and own a 20 foot bass boat. As long as you can document a friend's boat as "experience", you can qualify. It's an odd situation. I used to have a 100 ton license, but I downgraded the license to 25 tons because I never used the 100 ton license. The nice thing is that I have good endorsements which is all I ever wanted to achieve when I first started on this path years ago. |
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Hey, Capt. Tom Francis
On Feb 17, 3:35�pm, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote: Tim wrote: http://www.marinersschool.com/ Get a Capt. license with no USCG exam. is this like getting a medical diploma from the University of Bohmvobia? * *send us the money, we send you the diploma! ??? It's like anything you do - you get out of it what you put into it. A lot of the USCG testing is done by organizations like this. *Some teach their test, some teach the material and test against it. You can learn a lot in these classes, but they are so condensed that you * end up reviewing every once in a while just to keep the knowledge ready. I took the USCG exam years ago before the sea schools and from what I understand, it's a lot harder than these tests. *It's a matter of degree * - how much is considered acceptable in terms of error and what not. It's one thing to be able to pass the test - it's another to have the sea time to qualify for a particular level license. *I know guys who have 100 ton licenses and own a 20 foot bass boat. *As long as you can document a friend's boat as "experience", you can qualify. It's an odd situation. I used to have a 100 ton license, but I downgraded the license to 25 tons because I never used the 100 ton license. *The nice thing is that I have good endorsements which is all I ever wanted to achieve when I first started on this path years ago. now that you mentioned it, why the downgrade from 100 to 20 t.? I can understand the usage, but is there an extreme cost difference with maintaining the status? |
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Hey, Capt. Tom Francis
now that you mentioned it, why the downgrade from 100 to 20 t.? Sorry, 100 down to 25 ton status... |
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Hey, Capt. Tom Francis
Tim wrote:
On Feb 17, 3:35�pm, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: Tim wrote: http://www.marinersschool.com/ Get a Capt. license with no USCG exam. is this like getting a medical diploma from the University of Bohmvobia? � �send us the money, we send you the diploma! ??? It's like anything you do - you get out of it what you put into it. A lot of the USCG testing is done by organizations like this. �Some teach their test, some teach the material and test against it. You can learn a lot in these classes, but they are so condensed that you � end up reviewing every once in a while just to keep the knowledge ready. I took the USCG exam years ago before the sea schools and from what I understand, it's a lot harder than these tests. �It's a matter of degree � - how much is considered acceptable in terms of error and what not. It's one thing to be able to pass the test - it's another to have the sea time to qualify for a particular level license. �I know guys who have 100 ton licenses and own a 20 foot bass boat. �As long as you can document a friend's boat as "experience", you can qualify. It's an odd situation. I used to have a 100 ton license, but I downgraded the license to 25 tons because I never used the 100 ton license. �The nice thing is that I have good endorsements which is all I ever wanted to achieve when I first started on this path years ago. now that you mentioned it, why the downgrade from 100 to 20 t.? I can understand the usage, but is there an extreme cost difference with maintaining the status? Not really. I could get the recency time because one of my family members owns a tug/barge combination and I could always get time on that everytime it went out. It wasn't hard to keep current with the requirements. The 25 ton Near Coastal Masters is fine. I have the sail endorsement, radar and towing - all I need. |
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Hey, Capt. Tom Francis
On Feb 17, 4:56�pm, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote: Tim wrote: On Feb 17, 3:35?pm, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: Tim wrote: http://www.marinersschool.com/ Get a Capt. license with no USCG exam. is this like getting a medical diploma from the University of Bohmvobia? ? ?send us the money, we send you the diploma! ??? It's like anything you do - you get out of it what you put into it. A lot of the USCG testing is done by organizations like this. ?Some teach their test, some teach the material and test against it. You can learn a lot in these classes, but they are so condensed that you ? end up reviewing every once in a while just to keep the knowledge ready. I took the USCG exam years ago before the sea schools and from what I understand, it's a lot harder than these tests. ?It's a matter of degree ? - how much is considered acceptable in terms of error and what not. It's one thing to be able to pass the test - it's another to have the sea time to qualify for a particular level license. ?I know guys who have 100 ton licenses and own a 20 foot bass boat. ?As long as you can document a friend's boat as "experience", you can qualify. It's an odd situation. I used to have a 100 ton license, but I downgraded the license to 25 tons because I never used the 100 ton license. ?The nice thing is that I have good endorsements which is all I ever wanted to achieve when I first started on this path years ago. now that you mentioned it, why the downgrade from 100 to 20 t.? I can understand the usage, but is there an extreme cost difference with maintaining the status? Not really. *I could get the recency time because one of my family members owns a tug/barge combination and I could always get time on that everytime it went out. It wasn't hard to keep current with the requirements. The 25 ton Near Coastal Masters is fine. *I have the sail endorsement, radar and towing - all I need.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - OK Tom, for you, what is the advantage of having a Masters license? do you use it? or keep it "just in case?" This is interesting... Thanks! |
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Hey, Capt. Tom Francis
Tim wrote:
On Feb 17, 4:56�pm, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: Tim wrote: On Feb 17, 3:35?pm, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: Tim wrote: http://www.marinersschool.com/ Get a Capt. license with no USCG exam. is this like getting a medical diploma from the University of Bohmvobia? ? ?send us the money, we send you the diploma! ??? It's like anything you do - you get out of it what you put into it. A lot of the USCG testing is done by organizations like this. ?Some teach their test, some teach the material and test against it. You can learn a lot in these classes, but they are so condensed that you ? end up reviewing every once in a while just to keep the knowledge ready. I took the USCG exam years ago before the sea schools and from what I understand, it's a lot harder than these tests. ?It's a matter of degree ? - how much is considered acceptable in terms of error and what not. It's one thing to be able to pass the test - it's another to have the sea time to qualify for a particular level license. ?I know guys who have 100 ton licenses and own a 20 foot bass boat. ?As long as you can document a friend's boat as "experience", you can qualify. It's an odd situation. I used to have a 100 ton license, but I downgraded the license to 25 tons because I never used the 100 ton license. ?The nice thing is that I have good endorsements which is all I ever wanted to achieve when I first started on this path years ago. now that you mentioned it, why the downgrade from 100 to 20 t.? I can understand the usage, but is there an extreme cost difference with maintaining the status? Not really. �I could get the recency time because one of my family members owns a tug/barge combination and I could always get time on that everytime it went out. It wasn't hard to keep current with the requirements. The 25 ton Near Coastal Masters is fine. �I have the sail endorsement, radar and towing - all I need.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - OK Tom, for you, what is the advantage of having a Masters license? Nothing in particular for me as an individual. If you want to make a living as a ferry operator or tug captain, charter captain, etc., then it's required. do you use it? or keep it "just in case?" During the summer, yes. I'm not out of the charter business - I'm already booked for April (or as booked as I want to be) on the Ranger and have about half of what I want for May/June - I'm taking July and about half of August off, then it's the Fall rush where I'm really busy helping other captains and my regular bunch of fly fishers. I have contacts with charter captains around here who occasionally need a day off or want to operate more than one boat on any particular day - that kind of thing. I use it on the larger boats that go out further or perhaps on a multi-day run to the Canyons where I split the duties with the owner - that kind of thing. I do a on-water training cycles - basic boat handling, that sort of thing for a couple of dealers. I even do a trailer towing course for four hours with hands on backing, manuevering, etc. I suppose I could get away with an OUPV with the same endorsements, but I've had the Masters license since like forever. This is interesting... I guess. |
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Hey, Capt. Tom Francis
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message ... Tim wrote: On Feb 17, 4:56?pm, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: Tim wrote: On Feb 17, 3:35?pm, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: Tim wrote: http://www.marinersschool.com/ Get a Capt. license with no USCG exam. is this like getting a medical diploma from the University of Bohmvobia? ? ?send us the money, we send you the diploma! ??? It's like anything you do - you get out of it what you put into it. A lot of the USCG testing is done by organizations like this. ?Some teach their test, some teach the material and test against it. You can learn a lot in these classes, but they are so condensed that you ? end up reviewing every once in a while just to keep the knowledge ready. I took the USCG exam years ago before the sea schools and from what I understand, it's a lot harder than these tests. ?It's a matter of degree ? - how much is considered acceptable in terms of error and what not. It's one thing to be able to pass the test - it's another to have the sea time to qualify for a particular level license. ?I know guys who have 100 ton licenses and own a 20 foot bass boat. ?As long as you can document a friend's boat as "experience", you can qualify. It's an odd situation. I used to have a 100 ton license, but I downgraded the license to 25 tons because I never used the 100 ton license. ?The nice thing is that I have good endorsements which is all I ever wanted to achieve when I first started on this path years ago. now that you mentioned it, why the downgrade from 100 to 20 t.? I can understand the usage, but is there an extreme cost difference with maintaining the status? Not really. ?I could get the recency time because one of my family members owns a tug/barge combination and I could always get time on that everytime it went out. It wasn't hard to keep current with the requirements. The 25 ton Near Coastal Masters is fine. ?I have the sail endorsement, radar and towing - all I need.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - OK Tom, for you, what is the advantage of having a Masters license? Nothing in particular for me as an individual. If you want to make a living as a ferry operator or tug captain, charter captain, etc., then it's required. do you use it? or keep it "just in case?" During the summer, yes. I'm not out of the charter business - I'm already booked for April (or as booked as I want to be) on the Ranger and have about half of what I want for May/June - I'm taking July and about half of August off, then it's the Fall rush where I'm really busy helping other captains and my regular bunch of fly fishers. I have contacts with charter captains around here who occasionally need a day off or want to operate more than one boat on any particular day - that kind of thing. I use it on the larger boats that go out further or perhaps on a multi-day run to the Canyons where I split the duties with the owner - that kind of thing. I do a on-water training cycles - basic boat handling, that sort of thing for a couple of dealers. I even do a trailer towing course for four hours with hands on backing, manuevering, etc. I suppose I could get away with an OUPV with the same endorsements, but I've had the Masters license since like forever. This is interesting... I guess. That is an impressive credential Tom. I guess I will have to call you Captain from now on. ;-) |
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Hey, Capt. Tom Francis
"JimH" wrote in message ... "Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message ... Tim wrote: On Feb 17, 4:56?pm, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: Tim wrote: On Feb 17, 3:35?pm, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: Tim wrote: http://www.marinersschool.com/ Get a Capt. license with no USCG exam. is this like getting a medical diploma from the University of Bohmvobia? ? ?send us the money, we send you the diploma! ??? It's like anything you do - you get out of it what you put into it. A lot of the USCG testing is done by organizations like this. ?Some teach their test, some teach the material and test against it. You can learn a lot in these classes, but they are so condensed that you ? end up reviewing every once in a while just to keep the knowledge ready. I took the USCG exam years ago before the sea schools and from what I understand, it's a lot harder than these tests. ?It's a matter of degree ? - how much is considered acceptable in terms of error and what not. It's one thing to be able to pass the test - it's another to have the sea time to qualify for a particular level license. ?I know guys who have 100 ton licenses and own a 20 foot bass boat. ?As long as you can document a friend's boat as "experience", you can qualify. It's an odd situation. I used to have a 100 ton license, but I downgraded the license to 25 tons because I never used the 100 ton license. ?The nice thing is that I have good endorsements which is all I ever wanted to achieve when I first started on this path years ago. now that you mentioned it, why the downgrade from 100 to 20 t.? I can understand the usage, but is there an extreme cost difference with maintaining the status? Not really. ?I could get the recency time because one of my family members owns a tug/barge combination and I could always get time on that everytime it went out. It wasn't hard to keep current with the requirements. The 25 ton Near Coastal Masters is fine. ?I have the sail endorsement, radar and towing - all I need.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - OK Tom, for you, what is the advantage of having a Masters license? Nothing in particular for me as an individual. If you want to make a living as a ferry operator or tug captain, charter captain, etc., then it's required. do you use it? or keep it "just in case?" During the summer, yes. I'm not out of the charter business - I'm already booked for April (or as booked as I want to be) on the Ranger and have about half of what I want for May/June - I'm taking July and about half of August off, then it's the Fall rush where I'm really busy helping other captains and my regular bunch of fly fishers. I have contacts with charter captains around here who occasionally need a day off or want to operate more than one boat on any particular day - that kind of thing. I use it on the larger boats that go out further or perhaps on a multi-day run to the Canyons where I split the duties with the owner - that kind of thing. I do a on-water training cycles - basic boat handling, that sort of thing for a couple of dealers. I even do a trailer towing course for four hours with hands on backing, manuevering, etc. I suppose I could get away with an OUPV with the same endorsements, but I've had the Masters license since like forever. This is interesting... I guess. That is an impressive credential Tom. I guess I will have to call you Captain from now on. ;-) More like Admiral. |
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Hey, Capt. Tom Francis
On Feb 17, 5:45 pm, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote: This is interesting... I guess To me it is. Very! Thanks! |
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