On Tue, 25 Sep 2007 07:48:27 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
wrote:

Piffle.

Your jealous nature is so obvious.

Hats for pansies.

On Sep 25, 8:06 am, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:
On Tue, 25 Sep 2007 07:48:27 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III"

wrote:
Piffle.

Your jealous nature is so obvious.

Hats for pansies.

This from a guy who wears his hat backwards, with the rim in the
front! Cept when the boat is moving along, then he wears it right.

On Sep 25, 8:22 am, wrote:
On Sep 25, 8:06 am, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

On Tue, 25 Sep 2007 07:48:27 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III"

wrote:
Piffle.

Your jealous nature is so obvious.

Hats for pansies.

This from a guy who wears his hat backwards, with the rim in the
front! Cept when the boat is moving along, then he wears it right.

Proof that this NG does some good for boaters and is not all
politics. I face the same issue in that I have an 8' antenna on my
Tolman but recently installed a bimini and have not been sure of what
to do about the antenna. Harry says his 3' antenna works fine and
clears the bimini............

"Frogwatch" wrote in message
oups.com...

Proof that this NG does some good for boaters and is not all
politics. I face the same issue in that I have an 8' antenna on my
Tolman but recently installed a bimini and have not been sure of what
to do about the antenna. Harry says his 3' antenna works fine and
clears the bimini............


I installed a 3' antenna and Icom radio on the console of a Dauntless Whaler
I had. No bimini, but I didn't want a long antenna in the way while fishing
and the short, stainless whip could be bent over under the console grab
rail, out of the way.

It worked, but didn't have nearly the range of an 8 footer mounted higher up
on a boat. As for 10 mile range? No way on mine. Maybe two at best.

Eisboch

Eisboch wrote:
"Frogwatch" wrote in message
oups.com...
Proof that this NG does some good for boaters and is not all
politics. I face the same issue in that I have an 8' antenna on my
Tolman but recently installed a bimini and have not been sure of what
to do about the antenna. Harry says his 3' antenna works fine and
clears the bimini............


I installed a 3' antenna and Icom radio on the console of a Dauntless Whaler
I had. No bimini, but I didn't want a long antenna in the way while fishing
and the short, stainless whip could be bent over under the console grab
rail, out of the way.

It worked, but didn't have nearly the range of an 8 footer mounted higher up
on a boat. As for 10 mile range? No way on mine. Maybe two at best.

Eisboch




Mine is mounted on a vertical rail on the side of my center console.
When up, it just clears the underneath of the bimini, and the bimini
clears the top of my head by at least six to eight inches, so I am
guessing the tip of the antenna is somewhere close to 7' off the deck of
the boat. It seems to work well for me, although I rarely use VHF, since
almost everyone is on cell, even the guys I chat with who are fishing on
their boats out on the bay.

On Tue, 25 Sep 2007 14:15:24 -0400, HK wrote:

Eisboch wrote:
"Frogwatch" wrote in message
oups.com...
Proof that this NG does some good for boaters and is not all
politics. I face the same issue in that I have an 8' antenna on my
Tolman but recently installed a bimini and have not been sure of what
to do about the antenna. Harry says his 3' antenna works fine and
clears the bimini............


I installed a 3' antenna and Icom radio on the console of a Dauntless Whaler
I had. No bimini, but I didn't want a long antenna in the way while fishing
and the short, stainless whip could be bent over under the console grab
rail, out of the way.

It worked, but didn't have nearly the range of an 8 footer mounted higher up
on a boat. As for 10 mile range? No way on mine. Maybe two at best.

Eisboch




Mine is mounted on a vertical rail on the side of my center console.
When up, it just clears the underneath of the bimini, and the bimini
clears the top of my head by at least six to eight inches, so I am
guessing the tip of the antenna is somewhere close to 7' off the deck of
the boat. It seems to work well for me, although I rarely use VHF, since
almost everyone is on cell, even the guys I chat with who are fishing on
their boats out on the bay.

Do you have this radio: IC-M604 ?

I think I like the Metz Manta 6 stainless whip antenna. It can easily be
mounted to the console.

John H. wrote:
On Tue, 25 Sep 2007 14:15:24 -0400, HK wrote:

Eisboch wrote:
"Frogwatch" wrote in message
oups.com...
Proof that this NG does some good for boaters and is not all
politics. I face the same issue in that I have an 8' antenna on my
Tolman but recently installed a bimini and have not been sure of what
to do about the antenna. Harry says his 3' antenna works fine and
clears the bimini............

I installed a 3' antenna and Icom radio on the console of a Dauntless Whaler
I had. No bimini, but I didn't want a long antenna in the way while fishing
and the short, stainless whip could be bent over under the console grab
rail, out of the way.

It worked, but didn't have nearly the range of an 8 footer mounted higher up
on a boat. As for 10 mile range? No way on mine. Maybe two at best.

Eisboch



Mine is mounted on a vertical rail on the side of my center console.
When up, it just clears the underneath of the bimini, and the bimini
clears the top of my head by at least six to eight inches, so I am
guessing the tip of the antenna is somewhere close to 7' off the deck of
the boat. It seems to work well for me, although I rarely use VHF, since
almost everyone is on cell, even the guys I chat with who are fishing on
their boats out on the bay.

Do you have this radio: IC-M604 ?

I think I like the Metz Manta 6 stainless whip antenna. It can easily be
mounted to the console.


No, I thought the IC-M504 was expensive enough. Bought all my
electronics but the fishfinder from BOE in Annapolis. Good local prices.

Frogwatch wrote:
On Sep 25, 8:22 am, wrote:
On Sep 25, 8:06 am, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

On Tue, 25 Sep 2007 07:48:27 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
wrote:
Piffle.
Your jealous nature is so obvious.
Hats for pansies.
This from a guy who wears his hat backwards, with the rim in the
front! Cept when the boat is moving along, then he wears it right.

Proof that this NG does some good for boaters and is not all
politics. I face the same issue in that I have an 8' antenna on my
Tolman but recently installed a bimini and have not been sure of what
to do about the antenna. Harry says his 3' antenna works fine and
clears the bimini............


VHF transmission range is a function of transmitter power, receiver
sensitivity, and distance to the horizon, since VHF signals propagate
under normal conditions as a line-of-sight phenomenon.

The way to calculate the the theoretical line-of-sight horizon distance
is:
distance in miles = The square root of (1.5 X the height of the
antenna from the water in feet)

Since the CG is normally located at the highest possible place, you
shouldn't have a problem sending and receiving to them. You *will*
notice the difference when you are communicating with other boats.
Which could impact on the ability to get a quick response to a Pan Pan
or a MayDay call.

I personally think a Hard Top with an ant. mounted on the top of the
Hard Top would give you better coverage, without the inconvenience of
the ant. and bimini straps being in your way as you fish.

If you don't have the ability to easily walk around the boat, what is
the advantage of a CC?

On Tue, 25 Sep 2007 09:11:20 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
wrote:

Frogwatch wrote:
On Sep 25, 8:22 am, wrote:
On Sep 25, 8:06 am, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

On Tue, 25 Sep 2007 07:48:27 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
wrote:
Piffle.
Your jealous nature is so obvious.
Hats for pansies.
This from a guy who wears his hat backwards, with the rim in the
front! Cept when the boat is moving along, then he wears it right.

Proof that this NG does some good for boaters and is not all
politics. I face the same issue in that I have an 8' antenna on my
Tolman but recently installed a bimini and have not been sure of what
to do about the antenna. Harry says his 3' antenna works fine and
clears the bimini............


VHF transmission range is a function of transmitter power, receiver
sensitivity, and distance to the horizon, since VHF signals propagate
under normal conditions as a line-of-sight phenomenon.

The way to calculate the the theoretical line-of-sight horizon distance
is:
distance in miles = The square root of (1.5 X the height of the
antenna from the water in feet)

Since the CG is normally located at the highest possible place, you
shouldn't have a problem sending and receiving to them. You *will*
notice the difference when you are communicating with other boats.
Which could impact on the ability to get a quick response to a Pan Pan
or a MayDay call.

I personally think a Hard Top with an ant. mounted on the top of the
Hard Top would give you better coverage, without the inconvenience of
the ant. and bimini straps being in your way as you fish.

If you don't have the ability to easily walk around the boat, what is
the advantage of a CC?




When I'm using the boat for fishing, the bimini will be down. Walking
around will not be a problem.

An advantage of a CC, for me, is that I prefer to operate a boat in the
standing position.

If I were getting the boat just for my use, I'd go with the t-top, with
perhaps a three foot antenna mounted on it.

But, I expect to be pulling a lot of grandkids on tubes or skis, so the
wife has a big say.

John H. wrote:
On Tue, 25 Sep 2007 09:11:20 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
wrote:

Frogwatch wrote:
On Sep 25, 8:22 am, wrote:
On Sep 25, 8:06 am, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

On Tue, 25 Sep 2007 07:48:27 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
wrote:
Piffle.
Your jealous nature is so obvious.
Hats for pansies.
This from a guy who wears his hat backwards, with the rim in the
front! Cept when the boat is moving along, then he wears it right.
Proof that this NG does some good for boaters and is not all
politics. I face the same issue in that I have an 8' antenna on my
Tolman but recently installed a bimini and have not been sure of what
to do about the antenna. Harry says his 3' antenna works fine and
clears the bimini............

VHF transmission range is a function of transmitter power, receiver
sensitivity, and distance to the horizon, since VHF signals propagate
under normal conditions as a line-of-sight phenomenon.

The way to calculate the the theoretical line-of-sight horizon distance
is:
distance in miles = The square root of (1.5 X the height of the
antenna from the water in feet)

Since the CG is normally located at the highest possible place, you
shouldn't have a problem sending and receiving to them. You *will*
notice the difference when you are communicating with other boats.
Which could impact on the ability to get a quick response to a Pan Pan
or a MayDay call.

I personally think a Hard Top with an ant. mounted on the top of the
Hard Top would give you better coverage, without the inconvenience of
the ant. and bimini straps being in your way as you fish.

If you don't have the ability to easily walk around the boat, what is
the advantage of a CC?




When I'm using the boat for fishing, the bimini will be down. Walking
around will not be a problem.

An advantage of a CC, for me, is that I prefer to operate a boat in the
standing position.

If I were getting the boat just for my use, I'd go with the t-top, with
perhaps a three foot antenna mounted on it.

But, I expect to be pulling a lot of grandkids on tubes or skis, so the
wife has a big say.

(in my best SWF voice)

Pansy.