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Wayne.B September 11th 07 09:26 PM

Two Parkers
 
On Tue, 11 Sep 2007 16:06:11 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
wrote:

Wayne.B wrote:
On Tue, 11 Sep 2007 13:06:17 -0400, HK wrote:

I'll leave the stripes to the Grand Banks crowd.


Stripes?

http://share.shutterfly.com/action/w...AaOGTlo0Zt2LlI


Damn, I can't figure out which boat I want. Now if the Grand Banks only
had a stripe on it, it would be so easy.


I couldn't find the stripe either, and the transom looks entirely too
seaworthy.

HK September 11th 07 09:44 PM

Two Parkers
 
Wayne.B wrote:
On Tue, 11 Sep 2007 16:06:11 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
wrote:

Wayne.B wrote:
On Tue, 11 Sep 2007 13:06:17 -0400, HK wrote:

I'll leave the stripes to the Grand Banks crowd.
Stripes?

http://share.shutterfly.com/action/w...AaOGTlo0Zt2LlI

Damn, I can't figure out which boat I want. Now if the Grand Banks only
had a stripe on it, it would be so easy.


I couldn't find the stripe either, and the transom looks entirely too
seaworthy.



Hey, if you like barges, yours is one of the ones to get. Me, I'd rather
stay in a good hotel.


[email protected] September 11th 07 09:55 PM

Two Parkers
 
On Sep 11, 2:53 pm, HK wrote:
wrote:
On Sep 11, 12:22 pm, HK wrote:
Eisboch wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
...
I don't much like the big horsey side decals, either. On any boat.
I had an 18' Robolo CC for a couple of years. The first modification I did
was to tediously remove the huge "Robolo" decals from the sides.
Unfortunately, a faint ghost image of the name decal remained, despite my
many attempts to buff it out.
Eisboch
A shark's jaw decal on the bow?


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See, that's a nice shot. I never suggested changing any part of the
wet side of the hull, just a little curve to the shear, and tail,
that's all..Wouldn't take much, certainly could be done without
changing the fit and function at all. Anyway, don't get me wrong, one
of the things I noticed about those Parkers was how nice they seemed
to be moving in the water and how perfect of a single handed, or two
handed fishing boat it is. The four was real quiet too. They came in
not 100 yards from each other and headed for the same marina, do not
know if they were fishing together or not.


The boat is big enough in the front. If you drop the shearline, you
decrease the height of the gunnels off the deck. When you do that, you
make it more possible for ugly things to happen in terms of water coming
aboard or people falling off. This is much less of a problem, of course,
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I was thinking of a little more freeboard in the shear, not less.
Kind of like the Gradys and such but not so obvious..


Wayne.B September 11th 07 10:05 PM

Two Parkers
 
On Tue, 11 Sep 2007 16:44:28 -0400, HK wrote:

Hey, if you like barges, yours is one of the ones to get. Me, I'd rather
stay in a good hotel.


Barge:

http://www.anwr.org/gallery/pages/36-Barge.htm

Grand Banks Trawler:

http://www.marlowmarine.com/images/cinsubar%20.jpg

HK September 11th 07 10:09 PM

Two Parkers
 
wrote:
On Sep 11, 2:53 pm, HK wrote:
wrote:
On Sep 11, 12:22 pm, HK wrote:
Eisboch wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
...
I don't much like the big horsey side decals, either. On any boat.
I had an 18' Robolo CC for a couple of years. The first modification I did
was to tediously remove the huge "Robolo" decals from the sides.
Unfortunately, a faint ghost image of the name decal remained, despite my
many attempts to buff it out.
Eisboch
A shark's jaw decal on the bow?
http://tinyurl.com/3ypyxx-Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
See, that's a nice shot. I never suggested changing any part of the
wet side of the hull, just a little curve to the shear, and tail,
that's all..Wouldn't take much, certainly could be done without
changing the fit and function at all. Anyway, don't get me wrong, one
of the things I noticed about those Parkers was how nice they seemed
to be moving in the water and how perfect of a single handed, or two
handed fishing boat it is. The four was real quiet too. They came in
not 100 yards from each other and headed for the same marina, do not
know if they were fishing together or not.

The boat is big enough in the front. If you drop the shearline, you
decrease the height of the gunnels off the deck. When you do that, you
make it more possible for ugly things to happen in terms of water coming
aboard or people falling off. This is much less of a problem, of course,
on larger boats.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


I was thinking of a little more freeboard in the shear, not less.
Kind of like the Gradys and such but not so obvious..



Uh...there's more freeboard on my parker than on the correspondingly
sized Grady CC, even the 22-foot Grady. What the Gradys have is a
transition, or dip, in the gunnels as they move towards the aft end of
the boat, and therefore a more interesting shearline. I believe it is
called a Palm Beach shearline, or something similar.

Up forward, I have more freeboard, and in the stern I also have more
freeboard. I'll have to measure it with a tape, but my Parker dealer
also sells Gradys, and I looked at a couple of them before making my
choice.

HK September 11th 07 10:13 PM

Two Parkers
 
Wayne.B wrote:
On Tue, 11 Sep 2007 16:44:28 -0400, HK wrote:

Hey, if you like barges, yours is one of the ones to get. Me, I'd rather
stay in a good hotel.


Barge:

http://www.anwr.org/gallery/pages/36-Barge.htm

Grand Banks Trawler:

http://www.marlowmarine.com/images/cinsubar%20.jpg



I like the looks of the smaller, older GB trawlers, but not the larger
ones. The larger ones look like slabsided barges to me. Sorry.

If I were buying a trawlerRV, I'd want something a bit more "shippy"
looking, at least to my taste, than a big GB.


HK September 11th 07 10:14 PM

Two Parkers
 
HK wrote:
Wayne.B wrote:
On Tue, 11 Sep 2007 16:44:28 -0400, HK wrote:

Hey, if you like barges, yours is one of the ones to get. Me, I'd
rather stay in a good hotel.


Barge:

http://www.anwr.org/gallery/pages/36-Barge.htm

Grand Banks Trawler:

http://www.marlowmarine.com/images/cinsubar%20.jpg



I like the looks of the smaller, older GB trawlers, but not the larger
ones. The larger ones look like slabsided barges to me. Sorry.

If I were buying a trawlerRV, I'd want something a bit more "shippy"
looking, at least to my taste, than a big GB.



Oh...and I'd want a steel, not a plastic, hull.

Tom Francis September 11th 07 10:21 PM

Two Parkers
 
On Tue, 11 Sep 2007 09:23:48 -0400, HK wrote:

wrote:
I was fishing on the CT River the other night and saw two 21 footers
just like your boat Harry. One with a big 2 stroke, one a 4. Both
coming in at evening, right after another. They did seem to sit heavy
in the water, moving nicely through the light chop before sunset. They
even had low transoms! Still could give a little "life" to the lines
on the boat, someone should tell Parker that it is ok to look nice
too! ;) Just a couple of inches of um, pride in the bow would look
great, and that square ass, oh well, still look like a good tool for
the sound and beyond, even if it does not photograph well :O


I'm not sure what you mean by giving a "little life" to the lines. The
boats are exactly what they look like...center console fishing boats.
I'll take a couple of photos of the bow for you and maybe you can tell
me what you have in mind, okay? :}


I understand what Scot is saying - we've talked about it several times
in fact while out on my boat.

There are classic boats that have classic lines. Bill Davis designs
some to mind immediately with that Carolina bow flare and sharply
developed tumble home in the stern.

It used to be that you would tell a manufacturer just by the lines of
the hull. The early Mako and Aquasports are good examples of that.
Master Marine with the extremely long forefoot - early '70s Boston
Whaler Outrage which I still say is one of the best designs from
appearance standpoint that has ever come off an architects drawing
board. The early wood Grady Whites were boats with a long tumble home
that worked from the sheer to the stern and you could spot one from a
mile away.

Today, you could strip the ID off of any boat of your boats length,
paint them all the same color and put them side by each and you would
be hard pressed to differentiate one from the other - they all look
the same.

One of the worst designs, in my opinion, is the Grady White - it looks
like a kid drew a boat with crayon - basically a box on a nondescript
hull. Same with Parker pilot house models. No comparison to similar
length boats from Steiger or early Topaz models. Consider the classic
looks of a Uniflite Salty Dog as another example - you don't see boats
like that anymore.


Tom Francis September 11th 07 10:22 PM

Two Parkers
 
On Tue, 11 Sep 2007 17:05:41 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Tue, 11 Sep 2007 16:44:28 -0400, HK wrote:

Hey, if you like barges, yours is one of the ones to get. Me, I'd rather
stay in a good hotel.


Barge:

http://www.anwr.org/gallery/pages/36-Barge.htm

Grand Banks Trawler:

http://www.marlowmarine.com/images/cinsubar%20.jpg


ROTFL!!!!

HK September 11th 07 10:25 PM

Two Parkers
 
Tom Francis wrote:
On Tue, 11 Sep 2007 17:05:41 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Tue, 11 Sep 2007 16:44:28 -0400, HK wrote:

Hey, if you like barges, yours is one of the ones to get. Me, I'd rather
stay in a good hotel.

Barge:

http://www.anwr.org/gallery/pages/36-Barge.htm

Grand Banks Trawler:

http://www.marlowmarine.com/images/cinsubar%20.jpg


ROTFL!!!!



YEah...one is a slabsided steel box and the other is a slabsided plastic
box.

I prefer the Diesel Ducks.


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