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HK September 13th 07 02:45 PM

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Eisboch wrote:
"Wayne.B" wrote in message
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On Tue, 11 Sep 2007 13:06:17 -0400, HK wrote:

I'll leave the stripes to the Grand Banks crowd.

Stripes?

http://share.shutterfly.com/action/w...AaOGTlo0Zt2LlI



Stripes???

http://www.eisboch.com/pangea2.html

Eisboch




Pretty boat. Too fussy for my taste.

Eisboch September 13th 07 02:48 PM

Two Parkers
 

"HK" wrote in message
. ..
Eisboch wrote:
"Wayne.B" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 11 Sep 2007 13:06:17 -0400, HK wrote:

I'll leave the stripes to the Grand Banks crowd.
Stripes?

http://share.shutterfly.com/action/w...AaOGTlo0Zt2LlI



Stripes???

http://www.eisboch.com/pangea2.html

Eisboch



Pretty boat. Too fussy for my taste.


It's the new, "Popeye" look.

Eisboch



HK September 13th 07 02:53 PM

Two Parkers
 
Eisboch wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
. ..
Eisboch wrote:
"Wayne.B" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 11 Sep 2007 13:06:17 -0400, HK wrote:

I'll leave the stripes to the Grand Banks crowd.
Stripes?

http://share.shutterfly.com/action/w...AaOGTlo0Zt2LlI

Stripes???

http://www.eisboch.com/pangea2.html

Eisboch


Pretty boat. Too fussy for my taste.


It's the new, "Popeye" look.

Eisboch




Were you able to complete the sail of the mothership?

Eisboch September 13th 07 03:21 PM

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"HK" wrote in message
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Were you able to complete the sail of the mothership?


No. The deal with the guy in Vermont fell apart. Apparently he could not
get financing or a slip or something.

Mrs.E. and I made a major decision yesterday. We are going to keep the
Grand Banks and continue to try to sell the Navigator. I just instructed
the broker to reduce the price in an effort to that end, but I suspect it
will take some time. The Navigator is an excellent long range, live-a-board
cruiser, a live style that I don't think we will be doing much of in the
future. It's a west coast boat and is not well known over on this coast,
but those with an eye for a well engineered and comfortable vessel will
appreciate it. It will sell ... if not this year, then next.

Meanwhile, I've spent many, many hours this summer on the GB and have grown
to like it. As I have mentioned before, I enjoy it's traditional, nautical
character and now know the boat, stem to stern. I've added a few "custom"
features that make it more personal to us. The GB fits our boating needs
and interests better than the Navigator at this stage. I am no longer a big
fishing enthusiast although on the few occasions that I get the "itch" there
are many OPB (other people's boats) that I can bum a trip on.

I wish it had twins, but also kinda like the traditional handling skill
requirements that go with an underpowered single screw. Same thing underway
..... it's slow, it rolls and you have to learn a different skill set to
operated it. More like sailing, I guess.

BTW .... Parkers look fine. I was trying to give you a little bit of a
hard time in response to some of your "barge" comments regarding GBs.
Defending the honor of the Popeye boats, you know.

Eisboch




HK September 13th 07 03:37 PM

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Eisboch wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
. ..


Were you able to complete the sail of the mothership?


No. The deal with the guy in Vermont fell apart. Apparently he could not
get financing or a slip or something.

Mrs.E. and I made a major decision yesterday. We are going to keep the
Grand Banks and continue to try to sell the Navigator. I just instructed
the broker to reduce the price in an effort to that end, but I suspect it
will take some time. The Navigator is an excellent long range, live-a-board
cruiser, a live style that I don't think we will be doing much of in the
future. It's a west coast boat and is not well known over on this coast,
but those with an eye for a well engineered and comfortable vessel will
appreciate it. It will sell ... if not this year, then next.

Meanwhile, I've spent many, many hours this summer on the GB and have grown
to like it. As I have mentioned before, I enjoy it's traditional, nautical
character and now know the boat, stem to stern. I've added a few "custom"
features that make it more personal to us. The GB fits our boating needs
and interests better than the Navigator at this stage. I am no longer a big
fishing enthusiast although on the few occasions that I get the "itch" there
are many OPB (other people's boats) that I can bum a trip on.

I wish it had twins, but also kinda like the traditional handling skill
requirements that go with an underpowered single screw. Same thing underway
.... it's slow, it rolls and you have to learn a different skill set to
operated it. More like sailing, I guess.

BTW .... Parkers look fine. I was trying to give you a little bit of a
hard time in response to some of your "barge" comments regarding GBs.
Defending the honor of the Popeye boats, you know.

Eisboch





I knew that. As I said, I like the looks of the older, smaller GBs,
fussy though they are. The larger ones, to me, look like slab-sided barges.

These are the GBs whose looks I like the most:

http://yachtbroker.escapeartist.com/...741/index.html

http://oya.com/brokerage/32tortuga.html


I like the Eastbay GBs, too.


Eisboch September 13th 07 03:55 PM

Two Parkers
 

"HK" wrote in message
. ..


http://yachtbroker.escapeartist.com/...741/index.html

http://oya.com/brokerage/32tortuga.html


I like the Eastbay GBs, too.


Last week there was a transient, brandy new (delivered in April) 50
something foot GB Eastbay a few boats down from me. Turns out the owners
live in the same town we are in and I got a good look at the boat. Talk
about quality craftsmanship! They got a kick out of our little (and much
older) 36 Classic because much of the GB tradition has been retained in
their boat. The Eastbays are high class boats with a price tag to match.

I like the older 32's also but am not sure I'd want to give up the aft
cabin, as much as I appreciate a real cockpit. Ours has the "optional"
second, single bunk in addition to the double bed in the aft cabin. I kinda
wish it had the desk instead and have been studying the construction with
potential plans to remove the single bunk and install a desk/chair
arrangement. I actually prefer sleeping in the forward V berth anyway.
The boat rocks and bounces more up there and somehow I like it.

To me, there's nothing like waking up on the boat just before dawn,
switching the coffee maker on and enjoying the sunrise from my perch (a teak
chair up on the bow). At the slip we have cable TV and power, so I watch
the Red Sox games at night until I fall asleep. Once in a while I move out
onto a mooring in the outer harbor and just enjoy the solitude and gentle
rocking. There, in the morning, I fire up the genny just long enough to
make the coffee, then assume my perch position on the bow.

I really enjoy it, and am fortunate to have the time and an understanding
wife who appreciates how much I like it.

Eisboch



Wayne.B September 13th 07 04:00 PM

Two Parkers
 
On Thu, 13 Sep 2007 10:37:23 -0400, HK wrote:

I knew that. As I said, I like the looks of the older, smaller GBs,
fussy though they are. The larger ones, to me, look like slab-sided barges.

These are the GBs whose looks I like the most:

http://yachtbroker.escapeartist.com/...741/index.html

http://oya.com/brokerage/32tortuga.html


I like the Eastbay GBs, too.


=============================

Ahh yes, the low transom (LT) look no doubt.

Nice boat E.



Eisboch September 13th 07 04:08 PM

Two Parkers
 

"Wayne.B" wrote in message
...


Here's a poor quality (cell phone) pix of the slip we are in at Scituate.
The slips are really too small for anything over 30 feet, and should
illustrate why I've made many comments about learning to maneuver this type
of boat using the "back and fill" method to back in. It's a tight squeeze
on a calm day. Add a little wind and current and it gets a bit challenging.

http://www.eisboch.com/slip.jpg

Eisboch



Jim September 13th 07 04:19 PM

Two Parkers
 

"Eisboch" wrote in message
...

"Wayne.B" wrote in message
...


Here's a poor quality (cell phone) pix of the slip we are in at Scituate.
The slips are really too small for anything over 30 feet, and should
illustrate why I've made many comments about learning to maneuver this
type of boat using the "back and fill" method to back in. It's a tight
squeeze on a calm day. Add a little wind and current and it gets a bit
challenging.

http://www.eisboch.com/slip.jpg

Eisboch

You need something to relieve your stress.
http://hytaipan.home.comcast.net/media/serenity2.html
Watch it to the end.



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Eisboch September 13th 07 04:31 PM

Two Parkers
 

"Jim" wrote in message
.. .

"Eisboch" wrote in message
...

"Wayne.B" wrote in message
...


Here's a poor quality (cell phone) pix of the slip we are in at Scituate.
The slips are really too small for anything over 30 feet, and should
illustrate why I've made many comments about learning to maneuver this
type of boat using the "back and fill" method to back in. It's a tight
squeeze on a calm day. Add a little wind and current and it gets a bit
challenging.

http://www.eisboch.com/slip.jpg

Eisboch

You need something to relieve your stress.
http://hytaipan.home.comcast.net/media/serenity2.html
Watch it to the end.



LOL
That's a keeper.

Eisboch



[email protected] September 13th 07 10:05 PM

Two Parkers
 
On Sep 13, 10:55 am, "Eisboch" wrote:

To me, there's nothing like waking up on the boat just before dawn,
switching the coffee maker on and enjoying the sunrise from my perch (a teak
chair up on the bow). At the slip we have cable TV and power, so I watch
the Red Sox games at night until I fall asleep. Once in a while I move out
onto a mooring in the outer harbor and just enjoy the solitude and gentle
rocking. There, in the morning, I fire up the genny just long enough to
make the coffee, then assume my perch position on the bow.

I really enjoy it, and am fortunate to have the time and an understanding
wife who appreciates how much I like it.

Eisboch


Awesome, a dream. When we stay at the other place we can jump out and
watch the sunsets, take a nap on the river, swim until 3am.. .Man I
miss it.



[email protected] September 13th 07 10:13 PM

Two Parkers
 
On Sep 13, 11:00 am, Wayne.B wrote:
On Thu, 13 Sep 2007 10:37:23 -0400, HK wrote:
I knew that. As I said, I like the looks of the older, smaller GBs,
fussy though they are. The larger ones, to me, look like slab-sided barges.


These are the GBs whose looks I like the most:


http://yachtbroker.escapeartist.com/...age/image/9916...


http://oya.com/brokerage/32tortuga.html


I like the Eastbay GBs, too.


=============================

Ahh yes, the low transom (LT) look no doubt.

Nice boat E.


Took a ride with a rec.boater today ;) Saw an older 32. What a pretty
boat. Great lines, looks, function, just a nice lookin' boat.


Reginald P. Smithers III September 13th 07 10:15 PM

Two Parkers
 
wrote:
On Sep 13, 11:00 am, Wayne.B wrote:
On Thu, 13 Sep 2007 10:37:23 -0400, HK wrote:
I knew that. As I said, I like the looks of the older, smaller GBs,
fussy though they are. The larger ones, to me, look like slab-sided barges.
These are the GBs whose looks I like the most:
http://yachtbroker.escapeartist.com/...age/image/9916...
http://oya.com/brokerage/32tortuga.html
I like the Eastbay GBs, too.

=============================

Ahh yes, the low transom (LT) look no doubt.

Nice boat E.


Took a ride with a rec.boater today ;) Saw an older 32. What a pretty
boat. Great lines, looks, function, just a nice lookin' boat.


Yeah, but did it have a LT?

[email protected] September 13th 07 10:20 PM

Two Parkers
 
On Sep 13, 5:15 pm, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
wrote:
wrote:
On Sep 13, 11:00 am, Wayne.B wrote:
On Thu, 13 Sep 2007 10:37:23 -0400, HK wrote:
I knew that. As I said, I like the looks of the older, smaller GBs,
fussy though they are. The larger ones, to me, look like slab-sided barges.
These are the GBs whose looks I like the most:
http://yachtbroker.escapeartist.com/...age/image/9916...
http://oya.com/brokerage/32tortuga.html
I like the Eastbay GBs, too.
=============================


Ahh yes, the low transom (LT) look no doubt.


Nice boat E.


Took a ride with a rec.boater today ;) Saw an older 32. What a pretty
boat. Great lines, looks, function, just a nice lookin' boat.


Yeah, but did it have a LT?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


No, but we saw a lot of boats that did. Probably half the traffic in
the bay as far as recreational fishing boats had low transoms... I
guess us Nor'Easters just have bigger balls, and better boots, to
boot;)


Reginald P. Smithers III September 13th 07 10:40 PM

Two Parkers
 
wrote:
On Sep 13, 5:15 pm, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
wrote:
wrote:
On Sep 13, 11:00 am, Wayne.B wrote:
On Thu, 13 Sep 2007 10:37:23 -0400, HK wrote:
I knew that. As I said, I like the looks of the older, smaller GBs,
fussy though they are. The larger ones, to me, look like slab-sided barges.
These are the GBs whose looks I like the most:
http://yachtbroker.escapeartist.com/...age/image/9916...
http://oya.com/brokerage/32tortuga.html
I like the Eastbay GBs, too.
=============================
Ahh yes, the low transom (LT) look no doubt.
Nice boat E.
Took a ride with a rec.boater today ;) Saw an older 32. What a pretty
boat. Great lines, looks, function, just a nice lookin' boat.

Yeah, but did it have a LT?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


No, but we saw a lot of boats that did. Probably half the traffic in
the bay as far as recreational fishing boats had low transoms... I
guess us Nor'Easters just have bigger balls, and better boots, to
boot;)


I will have to take your word on that.


[email protected] September 13th 07 10:42 PM

Two Parkers
 
On Sep 13, 5:40 pm, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
wrote:
wrote:
On Sep 13, 5:15 pm, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
wrote:
wrote:
On Sep 13, 11:00 am, Wayne.B wrote:
On Thu, 13 Sep 2007 10:37:23 -0400, HK wrote:
I knew that. As I said, I like the looks of the older, smaller GBs,
fussy though they are. The larger ones, to me, look like slab-sided barges.
These are the GBs whose looks I like the most:
http://yachtbroker.escapeartist.com/...age/image/9916...
http://oya.com/brokerage/32tortuga.html
I like the Eastbay GBs, too.
=============================
Ahh yes, the low transom (LT) look no doubt.
Nice boat E.
Took a ride with a rec.boater today ;) Saw an older 32. What a pretty
boat. Great lines, looks, function, just a nice lookin' boat.
Yeah, but did it have a LT?- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


No, but we saw a lot of boats that did. Probably half the traffic in
the bay as far as recreational fishing boats had low transoms... I
guess us Nor'Easters just have bigger balls, and better boots, to
boot;)


I will have to take your word on that.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Yes, yes you will...


Reginald P. Smithers III September 13th 07 11:08 PM

Two Parkers
 
wrote:
On Sep 13, 5:40 pm, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
wrote:
wrote:
On Sep 13, 5:15 pm, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
wrote:
wrote:
On Sep 13, 11:00 am, Wayne.B wrote:
On Thu, 13 Sep 2007 10:37:23 -0400, HK wrote:
I knew that. As I said, I like the looks of the older, smaller GBs,
fussy though they are. The larger ones, to me, look like slab-sided barges.
These are the GBs whose looks I like the most:
http://yachtbroker.escapeartist.com/...age/image/9916...
http://oya.com/brokerage/32tortuga.html
I like the Eastbay GBs, too.
=============================
Ahh yes, the low transom (LT) look no doubt.
Nice boat E.
Took a ride with a rec.boater today ;) Saw an older 32. What a pretty
boat. Great lines, looks, function, just a nice lookin' boat.
Yeah, but did it have a LT?- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
No, but we saw a lot of boats that did. Probably half the traffic in
the bay as far as recreational fishing boats had low transoms... I
guess us Nor'Easters just have bigger balls, and better boots, to
boot;)

I will have to take your word on that.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Yes, yes you will...


Oh good, I was worried I might have to submit to a short arms inspection.


HK September 13th 07 11:50 PM

Two Parkers
 
wrote:
On Sep 13, 5:15 pm, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
wrote:
wrote:
On Sep 13, 11:00 am, Wayne.B wrote:
On Thu, 13 Sep 2007 10:37:23 -0400, HK wrote:
I knew that. As I said, I like the looks of the older, smaller GBs,
fussy though they are. The larger ones, to me, look like slab-sided barges.
These are the GBs whose looks I like the most:
http://yachtbroker.escapeartist.com/...age/image/9916...
http://oya.com/brokerage/32tortuga.html
I like the Eastbay GBs, too.
=============================
Ahh yes, the low transom (LT) look no doubt.
Nice boat E.
Took a ride with a rec.boater today ;) Saw an older 32. What a pretty
boat. Great lines, looks, function, just a nice lookin' boat.

Yeah, but did it have a LT?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


No, but we saw a lot of boats that did. Probably half the traffic in
the bay as far as recreational fishing boats had low transoms... I
guess us Nor'Easters just have bigger balls, and better boots, to
boot;)



One of my neutered housecats has bigger balls than Reggie Returdo.

Dan September 14th 07 12:55 AM

Two Parkers
 
HK wrote:
wrote:
On Sep 13, 5:15 pm, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
wrote:
wrote:
On Sep 13, 11:00 am, Wayne.B wrote:
On Thu, 13 Sep 2007 10:37:23 -0400, HK wrote:
I knew that. As I said, I like the looks of the older, smaller GBs,
fussy though they are. The larger ones, to me, look like
slab-sided barges.
These are the GBs whose looks I like the most:
http://yachtbroker.escapeartist.com/...age/image/9916...

http://oya.com/brokerage/32tortuga.html
I like the Eastbay GBs, too.
=============================
Ahh yes, the low transom (LT) look no doubt.
Nice boat E.
Took a ride with a rec.boater today ;) Saw an older 32. What a pretty
boat. Great lines, looks, function, just a nice lookin' boat.
Yeah, but did it have a LT?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


No, but we saw a lot of boats that did. Probably half the traffic in
the bay as far as recreational fishing boats had low transoms... I
guess us Nor'Easters just have bigger balls, and better boots, to
boot;)



One of my neutered housecats has bigger balls than Reggie Returdo.


That is amazingly childish! Is there some odd progression that once you
hit 60 years old you start acting like a twelve year old until you
finally die?

Dan

Wayne.B September 14th 07 03:41 AM

Two Parkers
 
On Thu, 13 Sep 2007 11:08:20 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:

Here's a poor quality (cell phone) pix of the slip we are in at Scituate.
The slips are really too small for anything over 30 feet, and should
illustrate why I've made many comments about learning to maneuver this type
of boat using the "back and fill" method to back in. It's a tight squeeze
on a calm day. Add a little wind and current and it gets a bit challenging.

http://www.eisboch.com/slip.jpg

Eisboch


Yikes.

I've gotten really spoiled by the GB49. With those big 30 inch props,
a full length keel and 60,000 lbs of weight, it is a very easy boat to
dock. People are always asking if I have thrusters - don't really
need them though.

Congratulations on mastering the single screw challenge. I can
imagine that it's a handful at times.

We had a lot of adventures docking our old Bertram 33. It was
relatively light and had a lot of windage from a full flybridge
enclosure. Once the wind got it moving sideways in close quarters
things became very exciting. We got a lot of practice with quick bail
outs.


Reginald P. Smithers III September 14th 07 03:48 AM

Two Parkers
 
Wayne.B wrote:
On Thu, 13 Sep 2007 11:08:20 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:

Here's a poor quality (cell phone) pix of the slip we are in at Scituate.
The slips are really too small for anything over 30 feet, and should
illustrate why I've made many comments about learning to maneuver this type
of boat using the "back and fill" method to back in. It's a tight squeeze
on a calm day. Add a little wind and current and it gets a bit challenging.

http://www.eisboch.com/slip.jpg

Eisboch


Yikes.

I've gotten really spoiled by the GB49. With those big 30 inch props,
a full length keel and 60,000 lbs of weight, it is a very easy boat to
dock. People are always asking if I have thrusters - don't really
need them though.

Congratulations on mastering the single screw challenge. I can
imagine that it's a handful at times.

We had a lot of adventures docking our old Bertram 33. It was
relatively light and had a lot of windage from a full flybridge
enclosure. Once the wind got it moving sideways in close quarters
things became very exciting. We got a lot of practice with quick bail
outs.


Can you imagine the boats on either side watching Eisboch backing into
his slip.


Wayne.B September 14th 07 12:49 PM

Two Parkers
 
On Thu, 13 Sep 2007 22:48:43 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
wrote:



Can you imagine the boats on either side watching Eisboch backing into
his slip.


At least he has finger piers on each side. My least favorite dock
arrangement is finger piers with two boats between them and no center
piling. It requires a great deal of care to avoid the other boat when
you back in.


HK September 14th 07 12:56 PM

Two Parkers
 
Wayne.B wrote:
On Thu, 13 Sep 2007 22:48:43 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
wrote:


Can you imagine the boats on either side watching Eisboch backing into
his slip.


At least he has finger piers on each side. My least favorite dock
arrangement is finger piers with two boats between them and no center
piling. It requires a great deal of care to avoid the other boat when
you back in.



Well, you could always mount retractable axles under that floating RV,
buy yourself a Freightliner, and pull it up the ramp. :}

Eisboch September 14th 07 03:41 PM

Two Parkers
 

"Wayne.B" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 13 Sep 2007 22:48:43 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
wrote:



Can you imagine the boats on either side watching Eisboch backing into
his slip.


At least he has finger piers on each side. My least favorite dock
arrangement is finger piers with two boats between them and no center
piling. It requires a great deal of care to avoid the other boat when
you back in.


It's funny ... I find it easier to judge where I am when the boats on either
side are in their slips. When they are both out, it's more difficult for
some reason.

I hear you on the 30-inch props also. The Navigator has 30-30s and even
though it's a much heavier boat, it responds sharply to forward/reverse
adjustments when backing in. I don't know what the wheel is on the little
GB, but there's very little "bite" when you change direction. It often
takes a bit of a jab on the throttle to get it to respond. Unless it is
flat calm, I don't even try to back all the way in .... I just get the stern
between the finger piers far enough to grab the lines and haul it back by
hand.

Eisboch



HK September 14th 07 03:46 PM

Two Parkers
 
Eisboch wrote:
"Wayne.B" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 13 Sep 2007 22:48:43 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
wrote:


Can you imagine the boats on either side watching Eisboch backing into
his slip.

At least he has finger piers on each side. My least favorite dock
arrangement is finger piers with two boats between them and no center
piling. It requires a great deal of care to avoid the other boat when
you back in.


It's funny ... I find it easier to judge where I am when the boats on either
side are in their slips. When they are both out, it's more difficult for
some reason.

I hear you on the 30-inch props also. The Navigator has 30-30s and even
though it's a much heavier boat, it responds sharply to forward/reverse
adjustments when backing in. I don't know what the wheel is on the little
GB, but there's very little "bite" when you change direction. It often
takes a bit of a jab on the throttle to get it to respond. Unless it is
flat calm, I don't even try to back all the way in .... I just get the stern
between the finger piers far enough to grab the lines and haul it back by
hand.

Eisboch




Don't feel bad...that's sort of how I load my Parker (and how I loaded
the previous Parker) on the trailer. I tie the boat up at the finger
pier, back the trailer into the water and then use a rope I snap onto
the bow ring to pull the boat by hand onto the trailer. That brings the
bow ring within about five feet of the trailer bow vee. I winch it the
rest of the way, a pretty easy job with the new boat and our fairly
steep launch ramps. I don't power onto the trailer.


John H. September 15th 07 03:46 PM

Two Parkers
 
On Wed, 12 Sep 2007 01:52:10 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

On Tue, 11 Sep 2007 21:32:54 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
wrote:

Wayne.B wrote:
On Wed, 12 Sep 2007 00:02:27 GMT, Tom Francis
wrote:

I honestly don't care how they get along with anybody else. I like to
think of myself as the universal conversationalist. :)

Now wait just a minute here, we already have a universal
confrontationalist.

Did you mean contortionist?


I think that means he can do it with either hand.


I can eat pizza with both hands.

Which reminds me - I had the best damn thin crust pizza EVER tonight.

Nice light homemade tomato sauce - five blend cheese topping with
Vadalia onions and mushrooms.

mmmmmmmmushrooms....


You got down to Ledo's, huh? College Park, MD, isn't too far for you to
drive for decent pizza. I saw no mention of anchovies, so it was a sorely
lacking pizza.

[email protected] September 15th 07 06:08 PM

Two Parkers
 
On Sep 14, 10:46 am, HK wrote:
Eisboch wrote:
"Wayne.B" wrote in message
.. .
On Thu, 13 Sep 2007 22:48:43 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
wrote:


Can you imagine the boats on either side watching Eisboch backing into
his slip.
At least he has finger piers on each side. My least favorite dock
arrangement is finger piers with two boats between them and no center
piling. It requires a great deal of care to avoid the other boat when
you back in.


It's funny ... I find it easier to judge where I am when the boats on either
side are in their slips. When they are both out, it's more difficult for
some reason.


I hear you on the 30-inch props also. The Navigator has 30-30s and even
though it's a much heavier boat, it responds sharply to forward/reverse
adjustments when backing in. I don't know what the wheel is on the little
GB, but there's very little "bite" when you change direction. It often
takes a bit of a jab on the throttle to get it to respond. Unless it is
flat calm, I don't even try to back all the way in .... I just get the stern
between the finger piers far enough to grab the lines and haul it back by
hand.


Eisboch


Don't feel bad...that's sort of how I load my Parker (and how I loaded
the previous Parker) on the trailer. I tie the boat up at the finger
pier, back the trailer into the water and then use a rope I snap onto
the bow ring to pull the boat by hand onto the trailer. That brings the
bow ring within about five feet of the trailer bow vee. I winch it the
rest of the way, a pretty easy job with the new boat and our fairly
steep launch ramps. I don't power onto the trailer.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


I guess the smaller the boat, the wetter you get;) I usually end up
with wet feet retrieving my skiff. That's why I wear Solomons;)


HK September 15th 07 06:38 PM

Two Parkers
 
wrote:
On Sep 14, 10:46 am, HK wrote:
Eisboch wrote:
"Wayne.B" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 13 Sep 2007 22:48:43 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
wrote:
Can you imagine the boats on either side watching Eisboch backing into
his slip.
At least he has finger piers on each side. My least favorite dock
arrangement is finger piers with two boats between them and no center
piling. It requires a great deal of care to avoid the other boat when
you back in.
It's funny ... I find it easier to judge where I am when the boats on either
side are in their slips. When they are both out, it's more difficult for
some reason.
I hear you on the 30-inch props also. The Navigator has 30-30s and even
though it's a much heavier boat, it responds sharply to forward/reverse
adjustments when backing in. I don't know what the wheel is on the little
GB, but there's very little "bite" when you change direction. It often
takes a bit of a jab on the throttle to get it to respond. Unless it is
flat calm, I don't even try to back all the way in .... I just get the stern
between the finger piers far enough to grab the lines and haul it back by
hand.
Eisboch

Don't feel bad...that's sort of how I load my Parker (and how I loaded
the previous Parker) on the trailer. I tie the boat up at the finger
pier, back the trailer into the water and then use a rope I snap onto
the bow ring to pull the boat by hand onto the trailer. That brings the
bow ring within about five feet of the trailer bow vee. I winch it the
rest of the way, a pretty easy job with the new boat and our fairly
steep launch ramps. I don't power onto the trailer.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


I guess the smaller the boat, the wetter you get;) I usually end up
with wet feet retrieving my skiff. That's why I wear Solomons;)


I get my feet wet, too. I suppose the bigger the boat, the more the
owner is a pussy. :}

Don White September 15th 07 07:32 PM

Two Parkers
 

wrote in message
ups.com...

I guess the smaller the boat, the wetter you get;) I usually end up
with wet feet retrieving my skiff. That's why I wear Solomons;)


I wear 'Crocs'... but both times I've had the Princecraft out so far I've
gotten the bottom of my shorts wet.
Guess I'll have to invest in skimper shorts.



HK September 15th 07 07:37 PM

Two Parkers
 
Don White wrote:
wrote in message
ups.com...
I guess the smaller the boat, the wetter you get;) I usually end up
with wet feet retrieving my skiff. That's why I wear Solomons;)


I wear 'Crocs'... but both times I've had the Princecraft out so far I've
gotten the bottom of my shorts wet.
Guess I'll have to invest in skimper shorts.



What, and risk arrest for indecent exposure?

I don't worry about getting wet while boating. If I were concerned about
getting wet, I'd take up bowling.

Don White September 15th 07 10:12 PM

Two Parkers
 

"JimH" ask wrote in message
...

"Don White" wrote in message
...

wrote in message
ups.com...

I guess the smaller the boat, the wetter you get;) I usually end up
with wet feet retrieving my skiff. That's why I wear Solomons;)


I wear 'Crocs'... but both times I've had the Princecraft out so far I've
gotten the bottom of my shorts wet.



Did driving a powerboat scare you that much?



No... just the launch/retrieve procedure.
I did throttle back though when heading into a stiff breeze and 1.5' waves.
I'm not used to the bow bouncing up & over. Is it possible for the wind to
flip one of these light aluminum boats?



HK September 15th 07 10:12 PM

Two Parkers
 
Don White wrote:
"JimH" ask wrote in message
...
"Don White" wrote in message
...
wrote in message
ups.com...
I guess the smaller the boat, the wetter you get;) I usually end up
with wet feet retrieving my skiff. That's why I wear Solomons;)

I wear 'Crocs'... but both times I've had the Princecraft out so far I've
gotten the bottom of my shorts wet.


Did driving a powerboat scare you that much?



No... just the launch/retrieve procedure.
I did throttle back though when heading into a stiff breeze and 1.5' waves.
I'm not used to the bow bouncing up & over. Is it possible for the wind to
flip one of these light aluminum boats?




How much do you weigh? :}

John H. September 15th 07 11:20 PM

Two Parkers
 
On Sat, 15 Sep 2007 18:12:02 -0300, "Don White"
wrote:


"JimH" ask wrote in message
.. .

"Don White" wrote in message
...

wrote in message
ups.com...

I guess the smaller the boat, the wetter you get;) I usually end up
with wet feet retrieving my skiff. That's why I wear Solomons;)


I wear 'Crocs'... but both times I've had the Princecraft out so far I've
gotten the bottom of my shorts wet.



Did driving a powerboat scare you that much?



No... just the launch/retrieve procedure.
I did throttle back though when heading into a stiff breeze and 1.5' waves.
I'm not used to the bow bouncing up & over. Is it possible for the wind to
flip one of these light aluminum boats?


Yes!

Short Wave Sportfishing September 15th 07 11:26 PM

Two Parkers
 
On Sat, 15 Sep 2007 18:12:02 -0300, "Don White"
wrote:


"JimH" ask wrote in message
.. .

"Don White" wrote in message
...

wrote in message
ups.com...

I guess the smaller the boat, the wetter you get;) I usually end up
with wet feet retrieving my skiff. That's why I wear Solomons;)


I wear 'Crocs'... but both times I've had the Princecraft out so far I've
gotten the bottom of my shorts wet.


Did driving a powerboat scare you that much?


No... just the launch/retrieve procedure.
I did throttle back though when heading into a stiff breeze and 1.5' waves.
I'm not used to the bow bouncing up & over. Is it possible for the wind to
flip one of these light aluminum boats?


Pansy. :)

It's possible certainly if you do something really stupid - not that
you would.

The one problem with boats like this one is that they will porpoise if
given enough speed and the proper conditions. Wind can be a concern
if your boat speed is high enough. With you and the boat as
delivered, full fuel load, etc., it will probably top out at 25/27 mph
with a fairly flat running aspect. Which means, and in my experience,
that in a light chop it will just skim along and you won't even notice
it. The wind might move it around a little, but that's about it.

At speed in the type of wave action you described, it will also tend
to skim, but if the period of the wave cycle is longer, it will
porpoise and that is where the danger lies. If you get more air under
the boat than normal, it will launch itself at the next available
opportunity and that's where you get into trouble. I've never done it
and I've had it out in some marginal conditions on Webster Lake which
can get snarky in bad weather. The nice thing about that boat is that
there is some weight in the bow and if you back off the throttle a
little, it will settle down quickly.

If you find the nose bouncing in wind, then you need to adjust the
trim a little - check to make sure that you put it back where I had it
because at that setting, it was perfectly balanced even with two
people aboard.

Dan September 16th 07 12:52 AM

Two Parkers
 
HK wrote:

Don't feel bad...that's sort of how I load my Parker (and how I loaded
the previous Parker) on the trailer. I tie the boat up at the finger
pier, back the trailer into the water and then use a rope I snap onto
the bow ring to pull the boat by hand onto the trailer. That brings the
bow ring within about five feet of the trailer bow vee. I winch it the
rest of the way, a pretty easy job with the new boat and our fairly
steep launch ramps. I don't power onto the trailer.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


I guess the smaller the boat, the wetter you get;) I usually end up
with wet feet retrieving my skiff. That's why I wear Solomons;)


I get my feet wet, too. I suppose the bigger the boat, the more the
owner is a pussy. :}


So the Lobster boat was a lie? Holy, ****! I can't believe it.

Dan September 16th 07 12:54 AM

Two Parkers
 
HK wrote:
Don White wrote:
"JimH" ask wrote in message
...
"Don White" wrote in message
...
wrote in message
ups.com...
I guess the smaller the boat, the wetter you get;) I usually end up
with wet feet retrieving my skiff. That's why I wear Solomons;)

I wear 'Crocs'... but both times I've had the Princecraft out so far
I've gotten the bottom of my shorts wet.

Did driving a powerboat scare you that much?



No... just the launch/retrieve procedure.
I did throttle back though when heading into a stiff breeze and 1.5'
waves. I'm not used to the bow bouncing up & over. Is it possible for
the wind to flip one of these light aluminum boats?



How much do you weigh? :}


Next he'll ask what he's wearing...

From the DW school of sophomoric responses.

Dan

Don White September 16th 07 01:37 AM

Two Parkers
 

"Dan" intrceptor@gmaildotcom wrote in message
.. .
HK wrote:
Don White wrote:
"JimH" ask wrote in message
...
"Don White" wrote in message
...
wrote in message
ups.com...
I guess the smaller the boat, the wetter you get;) I usually end up
with wet feet retrieving my skiff. That's why I wear Solomons;)

I wear 'Crocs'... but both times I've had the Princecraft out so far
I've gotten the bottom of my shorts wet.

Did driving a powerboat scare you that much?


No... just the launch/retrieve procedure.
I did throttle back though when heading into a stiff breeze and 1.5'
waves. I'm not used to the bow bouncing up & over. Is it possible for
the wind to flip one of these light aluminum boats?



How much do you weigh? :}


Next he'll ask what he's wearing...

From the DW school of sophomoric responses.

Dan


Have another drink on me Dingy Dan.



Don White September 16th 07 01:46 AM

Two Parkers
 

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
snip...
If you find the nose bouncing in wind, then you need to adjust the
trim a little - check to make sure that you put it back where I had it
because at that setting, it was perfectly balanced even with two
people aboard.



Do you remember where you had the trim?
From the bit of dirt markings...it looks like you had the bolt in the second
hole from the transom side. I have it there now, but might try the 1st
position to see if it makes any difference. I went up to M.M.O.S. today and
bought the rectangular 'ear muffs' for flushing after salt water service and
I picked up a throttle arm extension to see if I like sitting on the
bulkhead seat better.
http://www.mmosonline.com/Main.asp?D...4&PageNumber=1
I just need a nice calm day on a lake to fool around a bit.



Short Wave Sportfishing September 16th 07 01:58 AM

Two Parkers
 
On Sat, 15 Sep 2007 21:46:21 -0300, "Don White"
wrote:

Do you remember where you had the trim?
From the bit of dirt markings...it looks like you had the bolt in the second
hole from the transom side. I have it there now, but might try the 1st
position to see if it makes any difference. I went up to M.M.O.S. today and
bought the rectangular 'ear muffs' for flushing after salt water service and
I picked up a throttle arm extension to see if I like sitting on the
bulkhead seat better.


Second hole from the stern. First hole will force the nose down and
you won't get any bow lift on take off.

I'm a little surprised that you are having some trouble with the
balance - you weigh less than I do - it should be even better.

Hmmm - must think about this.

Dan September 17th 07 01:32 AM

Two Parkers
 
Don White wrote:
"Dan" intrceptor@gmaildotcom wrote in message
.. .
HK wrote:



How much do you weigh? :}

Next he'll ask what he's wearing...

From the DW school of sophomoric responses.

Dan


Have another drink on me Dingy Dan.



You are an adult, right?

It's very hard to tell.


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