Tom Francis wrote:
On Mon, 10 Sep 2007 20:01:14 -0400, BAR wrote:

Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
HK wrote:


My wife likes boating, likes fishing, and even will pee in a cup, if
she has to (though we now have "facilities" on son of Yo Ho), but she
doesn't like getting bounced around in the boat. So if it gets rough,
I slow way down, or we trailer over to calmer waters, or we don't go out.
Why not just go out in the Lobster Boat?
Surely the 36' Zimmerman like Lobsta' boat has a real head, burled dark
walnut, gold fixtures, heated towels and a real China bowel with a
bidet. Anything less than that and you are on a, on a 21' Parker Center
Console peeing in a bucket.

A bidet?

I have become delicate as I have gotten older.

On Tue, 11 Sep 2007 01:31:08 GMT, Tom Francis
wrote:

On Mon, 10 Sep 2007 18:21:47 -0700, Chuck Gould
wrote:

A lot of the coastal harbors in WA, OR, and CA have river bars. the
combination of rapid shoaling, an onshore wind, and conflicting tides
and river currents can create some very nasty conditions. In many
locations, the USCG literally closes the bar to navigation when
conditions get ugly enough. One of the reasons for "surfman" training
is to prep the Coast Guard personnel to perfrom rescues of folks who
don't heed the "closed bar" warnings.

Didn't you post a picture a couple of years ago of a large yacht
crossing a bar - some famous actor's yacht?

This one:

http://www.mv-dreamer.com/Mojo.htm

On Mon, 10 Sep 2007 23:30:11 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Tue, 11 Sep 2007 01:31:08 GMT, Tom Francis
wrote:

On Mon, 10 Sep 2007 18:21:47 -0700, Chuck Gould
wrote:

A lot of the coastal harbors in WA, OR, and CA have river bars. the
combination of rapid shoaling, an onshore wind, and conflicting tides
and river currents can create some very nasty conditions. In many
locations, the USCG literally closes the bar to navigation when
conditions get ugly enough. One of the reasons for "surfman" training
is to prep the Coast Guard personnel to perfrom rescues of folks who
don't heed the "closed bar" warnings.

Didn't you post a picture a couple of years ago of a large yacht
crossing a bar - some famous actor's yacht?

This one:

http://www.mv-dreamer.com/Mojo.htm

Yep - that was it.

Hell of a ride. :)

Wayne.B wrote in
:

http://tinyurl.com/2adl2u

Thanks.....

Stay off the rocks!

Larry
--
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The ultimate dirty bomb......

"Chuck Gould" wrote in message
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On Sep 10, 3:22?pm, Wayne.B wrote:
On Mon, 10 Sep 2007 14:28:39 -0700, Chuck Gould

wrote:
That's a bit funny- but I think the photo of the Ditmar Donaldson
punching through that surf *does* serve as a good reference for wave
height. The USCG review of the incident reportedly refered to that as
a "20 foot" wave. A legitimate 8-footer would still be 40% as large-
so I do try to bear that in mind when I hear boaters describing rather
extreme wave heights. Most people routinely overstate wave height- at
least IMO formed by years of observation. No need, really; 4-5 footers
can make for some really challenging conditions when expressed as
short interval chop.

All true but that's not just any old 20 footer of course. The fact
that it is steep and breaking is what causes all the excitement.

Precisely. Spread that same 20-foot rise out far enough and you have a
nice, gentle swell. Very few of the "white knuckle" tales involve
gentle swells. A 4-footer breaking on the beam will put my side decks
awash,
and a breaking 6-foot head sea will put green water on the foredeck.
Nope, nope, nope- don't need to do that when it can be avoided, and
just short of all of the time it can be when coastal or inland
cruising.

A lot of the coastal harbors in WA, OR, and CA have river bars. the
combination of rapid shoaling, an onshore wind, and conflicting tides
and river currents can create some very nasty conditions. In many
locations, the USCG literally closes the bar to navigation when
conditions get ugly enough. One of the reasons for "surfman" training
is to prep the Coast Guard personnel to perfrom rescues of folks who
don't heed the "closed bar" warnings.


The 2nd worst bar on the West Coast is the entrance to San Francisco Bay. A
South wind and ebbing tide can make for some really nasty seas. You have to
stay in the ship channel as it is at least better there. Sometimes, you have
to stay out a while until the tide changes so you can get around Pt. Bonita.
The Northern side of Golden Gate Bridge lands end. Once around Pt. Bonita,
you can get in the calm cove behind the rocks at the point and have a fairly
nice ride into the Gate. The problem is getting around the point.