On Fri, 07 Sep 2007 10:36:42 -0500, dt wrote:



HATE power windows. Bought an '01 Chevy S10 used; the driver's side
window lasted two months; since then it only goes 1/3 down.

I don't like them either. My kid just fixed one on my Lumina.
The motor/arm assembly cost 165 bucks at the dealer.
And I've had a couple other go dab.
I *never* had to fix a crank.
And I don't like the thought of being in the drink and can't crank my
window down.

HATE the damn interior lights!

What the hell good do they do?

HATE the damn "Check engine" light. Anybody know what the hell a
"Secondary air injection failure" is? Me neither, although it doesn't
seem to bother the engine or the MPG.

Those I like, but I've got a code reader.
And here in Illinois you are grounded when the emissions test
show a code - any code.

--Vic

On Fri, 07 Sep 2007 11:06:03 -0500, Vic Smith
wrote:

I don't like them either. My kid just fixed one on my Lumina.
The motor/arm assembly cost 165 bucks at the dealer.
And I've had a couple other go dab.
I *never* had to fix a crank.
And I don't like the thought of being in the drink and can't crank my
window down.

You guys are buying the wrong cars. I was driving my old Toyota Camry
the other day and the power windows worked perfectly and always have.
I bought it new in 1992 and gave it to my youngest son when we moved
to Florida 4 years ago. It now has 206,000 miles on it and still runs
great.

On Sun, 09 Sep 2007 08:25:57 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Fri, 07 Sep 2007 11:06:03 -0500, Vic Smith
wrote:

I don't like them either. My kid just fixed one on my Lumina.
The motor/arm assembly cost 165 bucks at the dealer.
And I've had a couple other go dab.
I *never* had to fix a crank.
And I don't like the thought of being in the drink and can't crank my
window down.

You guys are buying the wrong cars. I was driving my old Toyota Camry
the other day and the power windows worked perfectly and always have.
I bought it new in 1992 and gave it to my youngest son when we moved
to Florida 4 years ago. It now has 206,000 miles on it and still runs
great.

So does my Lumina, and since it only cost $2500 I can handle the
occasional repair. Even without that repair, still rather have a
crank.
I've got nothing against Camrys, except they're not cost effective
for my target - about $3k purchase/maintenance per 100k miles or
10 years, whichever comes first.
I hardly see old Camrys around here, and think those older models like
yours look a lot better than the newer ones, even though I prefer a
bigger car for travel.
Seems to me everything gets supersized. Your Camry looks to be about
the size of current Corollas or Civics. Though maybe they began
upsizing earlier. Not much up on Toys.
Sometimes I think my eyes are deceiving me. A few weeks ago I rented
a car for some of my girls to vacation in Florida, and when they
fetched it from Enterprise and I saw it in the driveway I thought they
had upsized from a Malibu to an Impala.
Took a short ride with them and said "I'm surprised there's this much
tire noise in an Impala."
"Dad, this is a Malibu."
Go figure.

--Vic