On Sep 6, 9:35 pm, Frogwatch wrote:

Really, does EVERYBODY want power windows?

Get used to the coming attractions. No auto mfj. is going to offer
crank windows as of this year, from what I gather. The cheap little
electric motors are easier for the factory to install.

Doesnt anybody else hate
those damned interior lights that dont turn off for 5 minutes?

I'm not a fan of them.

Does ANYBODY care about a "CHECK ENGINE" light that doesnt tell you
****?

No problem there. the light is easily covered with a strip of black
electrical tape (or stuff a pic of your wife,girlfriend grandkids in
front of it)!

Tim wrote:
On Sep 6, 9:35 pm, Frogwatch wrote:

Really, does EVERYBODY want power windows?

Get used to the coming attractions. No auto mfj. is going to offer
crank windows as of this year, from what I gather. The cheap little
electric motors are easier for the factory to install.

Doesnt anybody else hate
those damned interior lights that dont turn off for 5 minutes?

I'm not a fan of them.

Does ANYBODY care about a "CHECK ENGINE" light that doesnt tell you
****?

No problem there. the light is easily covered with a strip of black
electrical tape (or stuff a pic of your wife,girlfriend grandkids in
front of it)!



The Check Engine light is also part of the pollution control system.
Every time I had the light go on, it was due to excess emissions,
because I did not tighten the gas cap tight enough.

Frogwatch wrote:

On Sep 6, 10:23 pm, wrote:

On Thu, 06 Sep 2007 19:16:34 -0700, Frogwatch wrote:

For awhile I was obsessed with a 1939 Chevy 2 ton dually truck with a
flat bed. It was as simple as it could be. However, even I admit
there have been a few good advances in automotive tech, like
electronic ignition. I can still set the timing on a vehicle with
points and condensor but doing it every few thou miles gets old. I
love modern tires compared to the old ones.

Those old GM's had a 216 inch straight 6 that didn't even feature an oil pump!
It was known as "splash lubrication". There were these little scoops bolted to
the bottoms of the con rods that splashed the oil around.


I looked under the hood of that old chevy and just about fell in
love. Everything looked familiar instead of looking like some
adaptation of alien technology from Area 51.
What I'd like is a 2007 version of very basic technology. Why cant we
have a modern engine made with modern long lasting materials without
all the gadgets? Yes, fuel injection is a greta thing so we do need a
little elecronics but why build something you have to have an EE
degree in to work on.
My 1987 era diesel engine on my sailboat is a good example of such
design philosophy, simple, modern technology and materials and so dang
reliable it makes me love it.
Really, does EVERYBODY want power windows? Doesnt anybody else hate
those damned interior lights that dont turn off for 5 minutes? Does
ANYBODY care about a "CHECK ENGINE" light that doesnt tell you ****?

HATE power windows. Bought an '01 Chevy S10 used; the driver's side
window lasted two months; since then it only goes 1/3 down.

HATE the damn interior lights!

HATE the damn "Check engine" light. Anybody know what the hell a
"Secondary air injection failure" is? Me neither, although it doesn't
seem to bother the engine or the MPG.

DT

On Fri, 07 Sep 2007 10:36:42 -0500, dt wrote:



HATE power windows. Bought an '01 Chevy S10 used; the driver's side
window lasted two months; since then it only goes 1/3 down.

I don't like them either. My kid just fixed one on my Lumina.
The motor/arm assembly cost 165 bucks at the dealer.
And I've had a couple other go dab.
I *never* had to fix a crank.
And I don't like the thought of being in the drink and can't crank my
window down.

HATE the damn interior lights!

What the hell good do they do?

HATE the damn "Check engine" light. Anybody know what the hell a
"Secondary air injection failure" is? Me neither, although it doesn't
seem to bother the engine or the MPG.

Those I like, but I've got a code reader.
And here in Illinois you are grounded when the emissions test
show a code - any code.

--Vic

On Sep 6, 9:23 pm, wrote:
On Thu, 06 Sep 2007 19:16:34 -0700, Frogwatch wrote:
For awhile I was obsessed with a 1939 Chevy 2 ton dually truck with a
flat bed. It was as simple as it could be. However, even I admit
there have been a few good advances in automotive tech, like
electronic ignition. I can still set the timing on a vehicle with
points and condensor but doing it every few thou miles gets old. I
love modern tires compared to the old ones.

Those old GM's had a 216 inch straight 6 that didn't even feature an oil pump!
It was known as "splash lubrication". There were these little scoops bolted to
the bottoms of the con rods that splashed the oil around.


Not sure, but I think the 39's did have an oil pump, but they
stillused the "splash" system up till about 1966... I think.

What got me was about 10 years before, the chevy was an OHV engine,
and to oil the rocker arms and valves, they used a "tube" full of
wicker material instead of a valve cover, and you had to keep it wet
by pouring a quart of oil on top of the wicker so it could drip it's
way though to the head then into the crank case.

Yeah, I believe modern engines are an improvement.

wrote:
On Thu, 06 Sep 2007 19:16:34 -0700, Frogwatch wrote:


For awhile I was obsessed with a 1939 Chevy 2 ton dually truck with a
flat bed. It was as simple as it could be. However, even I admit
there have been a few good advances in automotive tech, like
electronic ignition. I can still set the timing on a vehicle with
points and condensor but doing it every few thou miles gets old. I
love modern tires compared to the old ones.


Those old GM's had a 216 inch straight 6 that didn't even feature an oil pump!
It was known as "splash lubrication". There were these little scoops bolted to
the bottoms of the con rods that splashed the oil around.



Yep and they ran great. No oil filter either and a oil-bath air cleaner
that had a wire/hardware cloth type mesh. My first car was a 1939 Master
85 four door sedan. The biggest draw back was the vacume driven
windshild wipers. When you hit the brakes they would sssloooowwww down -
sometimes to a crawl.

I had a thing for old cars in my teens and thats what I bought.

Capt Jack R..

On Sep 6, 10:58 pm, Jack Redington wrote:
wrote:
On Thu, 06 Sep 2007 19:16:34 -0700, Frogwatch wrote:

For awhile I was obsessed with a 1939 Chevy 2 ton dually truck with a
flat bed. It was as simple as it could be. However, even I admit
there have been a few good advances in automotive tech, like
electronic ignition. I can still set the timing on a vehicle with
points and condensor but doing it every few thou miles gets old. I
love modern tires compared to the old ones.

Those old GM's had a 216 inch straight 6 that didn't even feature an oil pump!
It was known as "splash lubrication". There were these little scoops bolted to
the bottoms of the con rods that splashed the oil around.

Yep and they ran great. No oil filter either and a oil-bath air cleaner
that had a wire/hardware cloth type mesh. My first car was a 1939 Master
85 four door sedan. The biggest draw back was the vacume driven
windshild wipers. When you hit the brakes they would sssloooowwww down -
sometimes to a crawl.

I had a thing for old cars in my teens and thats what I bought.

Capt Jack R..

My current truck is a 4 cyl Nissan 4wd but I have an old Dodge Ram to
tow the Tolman. Neither truck will last much longer. I keep the old
Nissan running just out of stubborness and because it makes my
employees feel bad that they drive new trucks while the boss drives a
beater.
Re-did the front brakes today. Noticed the front right 4wd driveaxle
rubber boot is shredded. It doesnt turn until I engage 4WD AND get
out and lock in the manual hubs so it may be OK since I have not used
it this year. SO, instead of buying a new 4wd front driveaxle, I
just cleaned it out, wrapped an old inner tube round it, greased it
real good and held it in place with cable ties. I bet I get another
year of use out of it. Center support bearing on the driveshaft goes
out every 75,000 miles and has gone agin so I took it off, I'll bite
the bullet and pay someone to press it off and put on a new one. Now
that summer is nearly over, here in humid N. FL, I have decided I want
to get my blower motor to work for ventilation but just about gave up
geting it out of the dash. Ventilation is for WIMPS. I really dont
want to fix the broken key switch cuz the way it is keeps my wife from
driving it. Tried to fix the door handles because I get tired of
rolling down the windows to open the door from the outside but found
all the little plastic bushings are gone so nothing in the doors
works. Maybe I'll get rid of the door handles and just keep em closed
with bungee cords.......

On Thu, 06 Sep 2007 18:42:00 -0700, Tim wrote:

On Sep 6, 6:39 pm, Frogwatch wrote:
I b'leve my old Nissan is gonna soon go to old truck paradise but i'll
get another 25K miles outta her (it'll read 333,333 then) first. So,
what then? I need a tow vehicle for my boat and as you see I like to
keep my trucks waaaaay past any reasonable retirement age. However, I
loathe gadgets and power crap and ANYTHING that can get broke. Simple
is best, no power seats, no fu**&*g lights that dont turn off till I
go back to make sure the door isnt open, no built in GPS, no damned
radio, just SIMPLE transportation. Reliability and ease of fixing is a
major issue as is longevity. So, what is there?

A hi tek luddite

Just what the Dotcor orderd.

a Kaiser/Willys M-715

http://www.steelsoldiers.com/index.p...fid=pic1&pid=7

http://www.olive-drab.com/idphoto/id_photos_m715.php3


ask JohnH or Tom Shortwave for details.....

Well, not that one exactly, but my first job in the Army was in an
Artillery Battalion in Fort Devins, Mass. I was chief of the Fire Direction
Control (FDC) section for a 105mm Howitzer Battery. The FDC section had the
M37, 3/4 ton as its primary mover. The thing had the most underpowered
straight six ever made!

http://www.olive-drab.com/idphoto/id_photos_m37.php3

Thanks for the post. Brought back some good memories, like the time we
almost shelled Ayer, Mass.

On Sep 7, 7:20 am, John H. wrote:
On Thu, 06 Sep 2007 18:42:00 -0700, Tim wrote:
On Sep 6, 6:39 pm, Frogwatch wrote:
I b'leve my old Nissan is gonna soon go to old truck paradise but i'll
get another 25K miles outta her (it'll read 333,333 then) first. So,
what then? I need a tow vehicle for my boat and as you see I like to
keep my trucks waaaaay past any reasonable retirement age. However, I
loathe gadgets and power crap and ANYTHING that can get broke. Simple
is best, no power seats, no fu**&*g lights that dont turn off till I
go back to make sure the door isnt open, no built in GPS, no damned
radio, just SIMPLE transportation. Reliability and ease of fixing is a
major issue as is longevity. So, what is there?

A hi tek luddite

Just what the Dotcor orderd.

a Kaiser/Willys M-715

http://www.steelsoldiers.com/index.p...r&type=file&fu...

http://www.olive-drab.com/idphoto/id_photos_m715.php3

ask JohnH or Tom Shortwave for details.....

Well, not that one exactly, but my first job in the Army was in an
Artillery Battalion in Fort Devins, Mass. I was chief of the Fire Direction
Control (FDC) section for a 105mm Howitzer Battery. The FDC section had the
M37, 3/4 ton as its primary mover. The thing had the most underpowered
straight six ever made!

http://www.olive-drab.com/idphoto/id_photos_m37.php3


Oh I know, John, thats why I sugggested the m-715 The 37 was a bull
of a truck, just no power.

Thanks for the post. Brought back some good memories, like the time we
almost shelled Ayer, Mass.- Hide quoted text -



Now THAT would have been interesting.

On Fri, 07 Sep 2007 12:09:23 -0000, Tim wrote:

On Sep 7, 7:20 am, John H. wrote:
On Thu, 06 Sep 2007 18:42:00 -0700, Tim wrote:
On Sep 6, 6:39 pm, Frogwatch wrote:
I b'leve my old Nissan is gonna soon go to old truck paradise but i'll
get another 25K miles outta her (it'll read 333,333 then) first. So,
what then? I need a tow vehicle for my boat and as you see I like to
keep my trucks waaaaay past any reasonable retirement age. However, I
loathe gadgets and power crap and ANYTHING that can get broke. Simple
is best, no power seats, no fu**&*g lights that dont turn off till I
go back to make sure the door isnt open, no built in GPS, no damned
radio, just SIMPLE transportation. Reliability and ease of fixing is a
major issue as is longevity. So, what is there?

A hi tek luddite

Just what the Dotcor orderd.

a Kaiser/Willys M-715

http://www.steelsoldiers.com/index.p...r&type=file&fu...

http://www.olive-drab.com/idphoto/id_photos_m715.php3

ask JohnH or Tom Shortwave for details.....

Well, not that one exactly, but my first job in the Army was in an
Artillery Battalion in Fort Devins, Mass. I was chief of the Fire Direction
Control (FDC) section for a 105mm Howitzer Battery. The FDC section had the
M37, 3/4 ton as its primary mover. The thing had the most underpowered
straight six ever made!

http://www.olive-drab.com/idphoto/id_photos_m37.php3


Oh I know, John, thats why I sugggested the m-715 The 37 was a bull
of a truck, just no power.

Thanks for the post. Brought back some good memories, like the time we
almost shelled Ayer, Mass.- Hide quoted text -



Now THAT would have been interesting.

I told the XO over the phone, "Charge 3". He yelled to the gunners, "Charge
7". I could hear him through the tent. You've never heard anyone yell,
"Cease Fire!" so loud in your life. It made one of the visiting general's
jump back, lose his balance, and fall backwards out of his chair.

My LT started to jump in my ****, so I told him to go check the guns, see
what charge was loaded. Sure enough, it was charge 7, which would have put
six 105mm HE rounds in downtown Ayer. That probably would have been a big
loss though, now that I think about it!