"Harry Krause" wrote
Incidentally, I did not advertise the boat on ebay. Too many asshole
buyers looking for "boat bargains" on ebay.

My experience with eBay has been that it's a seller's market. If you have
something of value and you present it well, you're likely to get a premium
price for it. Ebay's asshole ratio doesn't seem to me to be any higher than
the rest of the world.

And in answer to JimH's OP, I'd never buy something as big as a boat sight
unseen. (Even the little ones I can afford to buy.)

On Aug 26, 11:58 am, "Ernest Scribbler"
wrote:


And in answer to JimH's OP, I'd never buy something as big as a boat sight
unseen. (Even the little ones I can afford to buy.)


OTOH, I don't really know if this is buying sight unseen or not, but
I bought both my boats online though ebay.and have been satisfied with
both. My 18' ChrisCraft scorpion , the guy took great pictures of it,
and when I showed up the boat was in the garage, and looked very well.
I didn't ask about mechanical problems etc, I jsut saw the boat was in
great shape. When I got it out on the lake it ran very well, but
seemed a bit odd. Later my brother pointed out that the way it was
cranking trying to start, he was suspicious of a bad headgasket, and/
or burned valves. We took the head off and sure enough , he was
correct on both accounts. There went another $240.00 for material
expense and I provided the labor. But the neat thing is that I didn't
give much for the boat. I'ts a 50-50 toss weather the guy mis
represented it. it did run nicely, and would hit 4000 rpm with little
effort. And even after repairs it started and ran smoother, but
honestly it didn't really change the performance. I was amazed.

so! $1500 for the boat and even if I paid to have all the work done
it wouldn't have been over $500.00. ie $2000.00 in a boat and
trailer that the boat blue books for about $3200.

My 23' Marquis? it's a neat old tub.. Again very good pictures, all
questions answered fairly well. I had to drive almost 600 mi round
trip to the west side of Ohio to get it, but it was very well worth
over the $1221.00 I paid for it even with hauling it back.

When I bought these boats, it was during the early fall part of the
year, and so a lot f boats are going to market jsut to get them out of
the yard, and buying is a bit more flexable. Unlike the sprigtime when
it truely is a sellers market., because people are in a frenzie and
want something to gothe lake NOW!

I took into consideration of possible failures. and so it they
turned out to be a wash. I would be out, of course, but not out much.
Certianly out no BIG money.

Now I also look at it like this on ebay. if I had "won" the auction,
and showed up, and decided the boat was really misrepresented, there
would be no money exchanged, then what could the seller do? leave me
bad feedback? OK. if he wanted to push it further, it could be
contested as mis representation. as well. Of course, there would have
to be more evidence then not telling there's a speck on the gell coat
leaving suspicion of backing out of the deal due to nit-picking. But
I mean hard core lying. so in this case the buyer still has an
advantage.

If buying though ebay, don't really bid more than you feel comfortable
with losing, instead of spending..

On Sun, 26 Aug 2007 21:23:16 -0000, Tim wrote:

On Aug 26, 11:58 am, "Ernest Scribbler"
wrote:


And in answer to JimH's OP, I'd never buy something as big as a boat sight
unseen. (Even the little ones I can afford to buy.)


OTOH, I don't really know if this is buying sight unseen or not, but
I bought both my boats online though ebay.and have been satisfied with
both. My 18' ChrisCraft scorpion , the guy took great pictures of it,
and when I showed up the boat was in the garage, and looked very well.
I didn't ask about mechanical problems etc, I jsut saw the boat was in
great shape. When I got it out on the lake it ran very well, but
seemed a bit odd. Later my brother pointed out that the way it was
cranking trying to start, he was suspicious of a bad headgasket, and/
or burned valves. We took the head off and sure enough , he was
correct on both accounts. There went another $240.00 for material
expense and I provided the labor. But the neat thing is that I didn't
give much for the boat. I'ts a 50-50 toss weather the guy mis
represented it. it did run nicely, and would hit 4000 rpm with little
effort. And even after repairs it started and ran smoother, but
honestly it didn't really change the performance. I was amazed.

so! $1500 for the boat and even if I paid to have all the work done
it wouldn't have been over $500.00. ie $2000.00 in a boat and
trailer that the boat blue books for about $3200.

My 23' Marquis? it's a neat old tub.. Again very good pictures, all
questions answered fairly well. I had to drive almost 600 mi round
trip to the west side of Ohio to get it, but it was very well worth
over the $1221.00 I paid for it even with hauling it back.

When I bought these boats, it was during the early fall part of the
year, and so a lot f boats are going to market jsut to get them out of
the yard, and buying is a bit more flexable. Unlike the sprigtime when
it truely is a sellers market., because people are in a frenzie and
want something to gothe lake NOW!

I took into consideration of possible failures. and so it they
turned out to be a wash. I would be out, of course, but not out much.
Certianly out no BIG money.

Now I also look at it like this on ebay. if I had "won" the auction,
and showed up, and decided the boat was really misrepresented, there
would be no money exchanged, then what could the seller do? leave me
bad feedback? OK. if he wanted to push it further, it could be
contested as mis representation. as well. Of course, there would have
to be more evidence then not telling there's a speck on the gell coat
leaving suspicion of backing out of the deal due to nit-picking. But
I mean hard core lying. so in this case the buyer still has an
advantage.

If buying though ebay, don't really bid more than you feel comfortable
with losing, instead of spending..

Tim! Are you interested in a 21' Proline walkaround cuddy to add to your
collection?
--
John H

On Aug 26, 5:45 pm, John H. wrote:
On Sun, 26 Aug 2007 21:23:16 -0000, Tim wrote:
On Aug 26, 11:58 am, "Ernest Scribbler"
wrote:

And in answer to JimH's OP, I'd never buy something as big as a boat sight
unseen. (Even the little ones I can afford to buy.)

OTOH, I don't really know if this is buying sight unseen or not, but
I bought both my boats online though ebay.and have been satisfied with
both. My 18' ChrisCraft scorpion , the guy took great pictures of it,
and when I showed up the boat was in the garage, and looked very well.
I didn't ask about mechanical problems etc, I jsut saw the boat was in
great shape. When I got it out on the lake it ran very well, but
seemed a bit odd. Later my brother pointed out that the way it was
cranking trying to start, he was suspicious of a bad headgasket, and/
or burned valves. We took the head off and sure enough , he was
correct on both accounts. There went another $240.00 for material
expense and I provided the labor. But the neat thing is that I didn't
give much for the boat. I'ts a 50-50 toss weather the guy mis
represented it. it did run nicely, and would hit 4000 rpm with little
effort. And even after repairs it started and ran smoother, but
honestly it didn't really change the performance. I was amazed.

so! $1500 for the boat and even if I paid to have all the work done
it wouldn't have been over $500.00. ie $2000.00 in a boat and
trailer that the boat blue books for about $3200.

My 23' Marquis? it's a neat old tub.. Again very good pictures, all
questions answered fairly well. I had to drive almost 600 mi round
trip to the west side of Ohio to get it, but it was very well worth
over the $1221.00 I paid for it even with hauling it back.

When I bought these boats, it was during the early fall part of the
year, and so a lot f boats are going to market jsut to get them out of
the yard, and buying is a bit more flexable. Unlike the sprigtime when
it truely is a sellers market., because people are in a frenzie and
want something to gothe lake NOW!

I took into consideration of possible failures. and so it they
turned out to be a wash. I would be out, of course, but not out much.
Certianly out no BIG money.

Now I also look at it like this on ebay. if I had "won" the auction,
and showed up, and decided the boat was really misrepresented, there
would be no money exchanged, then what could the seller do? leave me
bad feedback? OK. if he wanted to push it further, it could be
contested as mis representation. as well. Of course, there would have
to be more evidence then not telling there's a speck on the gell coat
leaving suspicion of backing out of the deal due to nit-picking. But
I mean hard core lying. so in this case the buyer still has an
advantage.

If buying though ebay, don't really bid more than you feel comfortable
with losing, instead of spending..

Tim! Are you interested in a 21' Proline walkaround cuddy to add to your
collection?
--
John H- Hide quoted text -

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LOL!

John what youhave is truely a sweet deal, but I'm kind of boated out
for the moment.

Besides. my property tax's and car insurance all come together at once
this time of year, not counting the monsterous electric bill for 24/7
air conditioning.

In ways I hate August!

"Tim" wrote
Now I also look at it like this on ebay. if I had "won" the auction,
and showed up, and decided the boat was really misrepresented, there
would be no money exchanged, then what could the seller do? leave me
bad feedback?

Sounds to me like you have a very reasonable strategy.

Ernest Scribbler wrote:
"Tim" wrote
Now I also look at it like this on ebay. if I had "won" the auction,
and showed up, and decided the boat was really misrepresented, there
would be no money exchanged, then what could the seller do? leave me
bad feedback?

Sounds to me like you have a very reasonable strategy.

Well Ernest, it's worked pretty good for me.

Thanks!

"Tim" wrote in message
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Ernest Scribbler wrote:
"Tim" wrote
Now I also look at it like this on ebay. if I had "won" the auction,
and showed up, and decided the boat was really misrepresented, there
would be no money exchanged, then what could the seller do? leave me
bad feedback?

Sounds to me like you have a very reasonable strategy.

Well Ernest, it's worked pretty good for me.

Thanks!


I bought my boat from a guy in Brookings, OR. 400 miles from here. He sent
me pics and I gave him a deposit via credit card and a stipulation that it
had to be as advertised. Drove up for the 4th of July weekend and looked
at the boat, test drove the boat, and gave him a check for the rest of the
price and towed it home.

On Aug 26, 9:34 am, Harry Krause wrote:

Incidentally, I did not advertise the boat on ebay. Too many asshole
buyers looking for "boat bargains" on ebay.-

Would I fit into that catagory, Harry?

?:

On Sun, 26 Aug 2007 10:34:55 -0400, Harry Krause
wrote:

He came up here, spent an hour looking over the boat, said it was in
even better shape than I had described. He bought it on the spot, wrote
me a check, and we hooked it up to his truck and he took the boat home.

Which brings up another question.

How did you ensure that the check was good?

Wayne.B wrote:
On Sun, 26 Aug 2007 10:34:55 -0400, Harry Krause
wrote:

He came up here, spent an hour looking over the boat, said it was in
even better shape than I had described. He bought it on the spot, wrote
me a check, and we hooked it up to his truck and he took the boat home.

Which brings up another question.

How did you ensure that the check was good?

Wow, even if you went to the bank and cashed the check, if it turned out
to be a fraudulent check, it would have still bounced back to Harry.

The problem doesn't get any easier with cashiers check's. Counterfeit
cashier's checks are becoming a big problem. Most banks will tell you
not to use or assume cashiers checks are good until the check has
cleared the bank issuing the check.

It looks like the only safe way is to ask for cash or wait till the
check clears the bank.

I personally would NEVER except a personal check for $50,000 and let the
personal drive away with my property. This is worse than buying a boat
unseen, without a survey.