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On Wed, 22 Aug 2007 10:29:19 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:

The various town boards here would have a fit and I am sure they would try
every angle to block it despite the Federal rules. I'd love to try putting
up a ham radio tower on my property, just to watch the reactions. I'd tell
them I need to put it in a wetland area to establish a good ground plane.

ROTFL!!!

Hey, you were looking for something new to do. :)

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Gene Kearns wrote:
(1) I wouldn't buy a property that came with a deed
restriction

If you had added "that I can't live with" to that statement, I'd say
"Amen". But all property is restricted in some fashion or another
(i.e. you can't even dump nuclear waste in your own backyard anymore!)

and (2) my position was that NO agreement is binding
unless you sign indicating assent.

A deed restriction can be binding and enforceable even if you didn't
have a clue it existed.
Hypothetical Example: A blacksmith in 1930, ticked off at the
automobile boom, sells his shop and writes into the deed "this
property shall never be used for the purpose of commercial gasoline
sales". The property changes hands 10 times over the next 77 years
with no further mention of that deed restriction. Then in 2007 an
entrepreneur buys the property with plans to build a gas station. He's
got a problem. That old deed restriction, that almost everybody has
forgotten about, is still binding and enforceable. I've seen people
spend more money in legal fees trying to get around something like
that than they paid for the property to begin with.
So you're right. If you don't like the restrictions, walk away from
the deal. But you don't have to agree or even know about a deed
restriction to make it enforcable. A Title Opinion by a good
Abstractor or Lawyer, to find these things before you buy, can be
worth it's weight in gold.

Rick

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On Wed, 22 Aug 2007 10:56:01 -0500, lid penned the
following well considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:

snips

A Title Opinion by a good
Abstractor or Lawyer, to find these things before you buy, can be
worth it's weight in gold.

Very True..... ditto protective steps taking prior to boat purchase or
any other big ticket item....

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"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On Wed, 22 Aug 2007 10:29:19 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:

The various town boards here would have a fit and I am sure they would try
every angle to block it despite the Federal rules. I'd love to try
putting
up a ham radio tower on my property, just to watch the reactions. I'd
tell
them I need to put it in a wetland area to establish a good ground plane.

ROTFL!!!

Hey, you were looking for something new to do. :)

yup. In fact, the '46 Ford is being picked up this afternoon by Horseless
Carriage for shipment to the new owner in Texas. Down to two "special" cars
now .... the 67 GTO and the Porsche 911.

Lately, my time has been taken up giving Grand Banks tours. Lotsa keel
kickers out there, but no buyers yet.

Eisboch

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Gene Kearns wrote:
On Tue, 21 Aug 2007 20:24:12 -0400, BAR penned the following well
considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:

Gene Kearns wrote:
On Tue, 21 Aug 2007 15:50:25 -0500, lid penned the
following well considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:

Gene Kearns wrote:
My guess is that nothing is binding, if they didn't also assent to and
sign the restrictive covenants prior to purchase.
I don't know about your state, but in mine it's as binding as any
other deed restriction. And deed restrictions are very much binding.

Rick
Even if you don't sign it?

If you buy the property you agree to the deed restrictions and covenants.

Thank you. That was my point.

Well of course if you didn't own the property you would not have to obey
the covenants.

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On Aug 22, 12:32 pm, "Eisboch" wrote:
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in messagenews:u9loc3prpdd3kcrgjhugkkd1380qqaofnd@4ax .com...

On Wed, 22 Aug 2007 10:29:19 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:

The various town boards here would have a fit and I am sure they would try
every angle to block it despite the Federal rules. I'd love to try
putting
up a ham radio tower on my property, just to watch the reactions. I'd
tell
them I need to put it in a wetland area to establish a good ground plane.

ROTFL!!!

Hey, you were looking for something new to do. :)

yup. In fact, the '46 Ford is being picked up this afternoon by Horseless
Carriage for shipment to the new owner in Texas. Down to two "special" cars
now .... the 67 GTO and the Porsche 911.

Lately, my time has been taken up giving Grand Banks tours. Lotsa keel
kickers out there, but no buyers yet.

Eisboch

My neighbor has a mint, origional stock, early 70's elcamino, garaged,
low miles, etc, if anyone is interested email me for pics and
details... We are in CT USA. since we are talking cars and storage of
boats and cars etc..

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On Wed, 22 Aug 2007 12:32:38 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:

Lately, my time has been taken up giving Grand Banks tours. Lotsa keel
kickers out there, but no buyers yet.

Are you selling the GB36 as well?

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"Wayne.B" wrote in message
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On Wed, 22 Aug 2007 12:32:38 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:

Lately, my time has been taken up giving Grand Banks tours. Lotsa keel
kickers out there, but no buyers yet.

Are you selling the GB36 as well?


We have both boats on the block. If one sells, we'll most likely keep the
other. I like them both, for different reasons. If both should sell this
season, it presents a new dilemma .... what to look for next. Maybe a GB
49?

I am just tired of worrying about two of them.

Eisboch

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"Eisboch" wrote in message
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"Wayne.B" wrote in message
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On Wed, 22 Aug 2007 12:32:38 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:

Lately, my time has been taken up giving Grand Banks tours. Lotsa keel
kickers out there, but no buyers yet.

Are you selling the GB36 as well?


We have both boats on the block. If one sells, we'll most likely keep the
other. I like them both, for different reasons. If both should sell this
season, it presents a new dilemma .... what to look for next. Maybe a GB
49?

I am just tired of worrying about two of them.

Eisboch




Good strategy. I take it that you alone do not maintain both boats as that
alone seems like it would be a full time job. ;-)

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On Wed, 22 Aug 2007 08:35:53 -0400, Gene Kearns
wrote:

On Tue, 21 Aug 2007 20:55:52 -0500, lid penned the
following well considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:

Phantman:
I don't know about your state, but in mine it's as binding as any
other deed restriction. And deed restrictions are very much binding.

Gene Kearns wrote:
Even if you don't sign it?

Yep.
A deed restriction runs with the land. It's one of the reasons you get
a Title Opinion before buying property. To uncover these sorts of
things.

Nope. You miss the point. Wisest, IMHO, course is to walk away and
look for a property that doesn't beg for civil litigation......

That is my comfort level. YMMV.

Gene, I'd defy you to do that within an hour's drive of downtown D.C. The
new stuff going up here is all in developments, all with HOA's. Almost all
of the older (less than 20 years) is the same way. Some, like mine, built
in 1987, escaped the HOA covenants, etc. But, within two blocks there are
five houses with more than ten Mexican adults in each. This is why I'm in a
semi-rush to move.
--
John H