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Homeowner's Associations suck!
A rep of the homeowner's association which regulates the neighborhood my girlfriend lives If she lives in a "controlled" neighborhood, you may be dinked....if she owns the house...tell him to stick his finger up his ass, pull it out and smell it...then he'll know how full of **** he is. ......sorry....I had to vent. |
Homeowner's Associations suck!
"Bob" wrote in message ... LOL. I think I'm OK on that front -- I've also managed to remain a bachelor for all my 52 years, but I appreciate the words of wisdom none the less! :-) Will have to check into the Yach Club thing but I'm thinking that might be pretty expensive and not very convenient since the nearest yacht club is quite a ways away. I think I'll scale back doing any maintenance or work at the house which requires I start the boat on the trailer and instead haul it over to my cousin's place about a 1/2 hour drive away or just wait to do those things just before launch and/or on the water. F 'em if they want to get on us for me doing other little things while it's parked in her driveway during the "24 hour storage period". I'd have to agree on the boat/yacht club thing. We're lucky here, I could join one or more from a list of almost two dozen. Some very expensive, some dirt cheap, some close.. others an hours drive, most on the ocean and a few on fresh water etc etc. The right club might be a nice social place to hang around in-between outings. |
Homeowner's Associations suck!
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Homeowner's Associations suck!
On Mon, 20 Aug 2007 23:29:23 -0400, wrote:
On Tue, 21 Aug 2007 01:15:03 +0000 (UTC), (Bob) wrote: Yes, this post is on-topic. I just have to vent...thanks for listening. I live in an apartment and store my 17' v-hull I/O runabout boat in a storage facility. Whenever I need to work on it, I go get the boat and bring it to her house for a day or two and work on it there...nothing major -- just routine stuff like winterizing, tuneups, and other minor repairs or modifications...it's not like I'm leaving a junky boat half torn apart in her driveway. All has been well with this situation for the past 3 years or so until now. A rep of the homeowner's association which regulates the neighborhood my girlfriend lives in called her today saying that the association regulations prohibit working on boats and that boats could be loaded or unloaded only on your property. Where does one practically work on their boat if they cannot work on it at their house? I cannot afford to have someone do every little thing to my boat when it needs something done to it. Sure, I could probably get away with doing small things to it, but what about the other things like winterizing or getting it ready to go in the Spring? The way I see it, I am screwed and don't have much choice but to get rid of the boat. What a depressing thought that is, especially since it is a boat that has been in my family for 35 years, is running better than it ever has, not to mention how much enjoyment we get from it. The short answer is screw them. If you really don't care and the boat is not there longer than it takes for them to bring legal action there is really not much they can do. Certainly they can be mad at you but it is really pretty hard to enforce rules that are only broken for a day at a time, fairly infrequently. Basically it is pretty hard for them to hit a moving target. This is from the former president of TWO HOAs I had people just tell me to go screw myself and there really wasn't much I could do about it. You can always jump through the hoops to get a lien on the property to try to enforce the fines but that only affects people who plan on selling soon and who actually have some equity in the property. If they walk away from the house (which will be happening about 8 million times in the next year) they walk away from your "fine" too. My condo association got in line at bankruptsy court on 5 uinits that were in arrears on fines and fees ... we didn't walk away with a dime. I should have read this before my response, Bob. I basically agree with everything he says. Take 15 minutes and read the association rules. -- John H |
Homeowner's Associations suck!
(Bob) wrote:
F 'em if they want to get on us Well, aalllll righty then..... But just remember, it won't be "us" they'll get on. You're completely in the clear here. She's the one that'll be under the gun... FOR you. So don't discount what I told ya' 'bout that slippery slope. -shakin' head- Rick |
Homeowner's Associations suck!
On Tue, 21 Aug 2007 01:15:03 +0000 (UTC), Bob penned the following
well considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats: Yes, this post is on-topic. I just have to vent...thanks for listening. I live in an apartment and store my 17' v-hull I/O runabout boat in a storage facility. Whenever I need to work on it, I go get the boat and bring it to her house for a day or two and work on it there...nothing major -- just routine stuff like winterizing, tuneups, and other minor repairs or modifications...it's not like I'm leaving a junky boat half torn apart in her driveway. All has been well with this situation for the past 3 years or so until now. A rep of the homeowner's association which regulates the neighborhood my girlfriend lives in called her today saying that the association regulations prohibit working on boats and that boats could be loaded or unloaded only on your property. Where does one practically work on their boat if they cannot work on it at their house? I cannot afford to have someone do every little thing to my boat when it needs something done to it. Sure, I could probably get away with doing small things to it, but what about the other things like winterizing or getting it ready to go in the Spring? The way I see it, I am screwed and don't have much choice but to get rid of the boat. What a depressing thought that is, especially since it is a boat that has been in my family for 35 years, is running better than it ever has, not to mention how much enjoyment we get from it. I will never understand why anybody would willing sign a document binding themselves and (potentially) their heirs to an "association" which promises all of the restrictions of (yet another layer of) government, but with none of the expected protections. The typical level of intrusion into one's personal life and behavior is, IMHO, absolutely unacceptable! Do you really want to live your life according to a code of behavior that a bunch of busybodies will coercively force on you? .......especially, when *you* didn't sign the document to begin with? Buy your own nonrestricted homestead, then you can store and work on your property as *you* see fit. Invite the GF over to *your* place..... PS You will discover many other benefits and freedoms, as well. You'll be able to leave the toilet seat up, too, if you want to ..... -- Grady-White Gulfstream, out of Oak Island, NC. Homepage http://pamandgene.idleplay.net/ Rec.boats at Lee Yeaton's Bayguide http://www.thebayguide.com/rec.boats ----------------- www.Newsgroup-Binaries.com - *Completion*Retention*Speed* Access your favorite newsgroups from home or on the road ----------------- |
Homeowner's Associations suck!
I will never understand why anybody would willing sign a document binding themselves and (potentially) their heirs to an "association" which promises all of the restrictions of (yet another layer of) government, but with none of the expected protections. The typical level of intrusion into one's personal life and behavior is, IMHO, absolutely unacceptable! Do you really want to live your life according to a code of behavior that a bunch of busybodies will coercively force on you? ......especially, when *you* didn't sign the document to begin with? Buy your own nonrestricted homestead, then you can store and work on your property as *you* see fit. Invite the GF over to *your* place..... PS You will discover many other benefits and freedoms, as well. You'll be able to leave the toilet seat up, too, if you want to ..... Homeowners Associations are a popular developers/local government scam in Kalifornia and other areas. Basically, the building density can be much higher (more units per acre) and the HOA is responsible for road and drainage maintenance, code enforcement, etc, instead of the town or city. It is a very convenient way for the town/city to absolve themselves for responsibility to maintain the roads, the sewer and drain pipes, and do code enforcement. A very scummy arrangement that is good for the developers and the towns/cities, but really bad for the residents. Your suggestion to buy somewhere that doesn't have an HOA sounds really good, except that most people don't have the money to buy the kind of home they would REALLY like. In other words, not everyone is rich, or lives in an area that the housing cost are reasonable compared to wages. For us working folks, HOAs can be a necessary evil, if we want to buy SOME kind of home. It must be nice to have lots of $$. It is unfortunate that for many, it really warps their comprehension of the reality of life for for regular working folks. |
Homeowner's Associations suck!
On Tue, 21 Aug 2007 12:02:26 -0700, penned the
following well considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats: Your suggestion to buy somewhere that doesn't have an HOA sounds really good, except that most people don't have the money to buy the kind of home they would REALLY like. In other words, not everyone is rich, or lives in an area that the housing cost are reasonable compared to wages. For us working folks, HOAs can be a necessary evil, if we want to buy SOME kind of home. It must be nice to have lots of $$. It is unfortunate that for many, it really warps their comprehension of the reality of life for for regular working folks. That is odd! Here in NC, it is the high end neighborhoods where HOAs are all the rage. Many HOAs seem to exist, in part, to enforce rules where it gives the illusion that no one in the neighborhood must either work for a living or do any personal manual labor (winterize the boat, for example). Most covenants are written such that you can keep a boat on the property if it is housed within a garage..... and many covenants prohibit an unattached garage. So.... you can have your boat if you can afford a house/garage big enough to house both. Go figure....... -- Grady-White Gulfstream, out of Oak Island, NC. Homepage http://pamandgene.idleplay.net/ Rec.boats at Lee Yeaton's Bayguide http://www.thebayguide.com/rec.boats ----------------- www.Newsgroup-Binaries.com - *Completion*Retention*Speed* Access your favorite newsgroups from home or on the road ----------------- |
Homeowner's Associations suck!
wrote in message oups.com... I will never understand why anybody would willing sign a document binding themselves and (potentially) their heirs to an "association" which promises all of the restrictions of (yet another layer of) government, but with none of the expected protections. The typical level of intrusion into one's personal life and behavior is, IMHO, absolutely unacceptable! Do you really want to live your life according to a code of behavior that a bunch of busybodies will coercively force on you? ......especially, when *you* didn't sign the document to begin with? Buy your own nonrestricted homestead, then you can store and work on your property as *you* see fit. Invite the GF over to *your* place..... PS You will discover many other benefits and freedoms, as well. You'll be able to leave the toilet seat up, too, if you want to ..... Homeowners Associations are a popular developers/local government scam in Kalifornia and other areas. Basically, the building density can be much higher (more units per acre) and the HOA is responsible for road and drainage maintenance, code enforcement, etc, instead of the town or city. It is a very convenient way for the town/city to absolve themselves for responsibility to maintain the roads, the sewer and drain pipes, and do code enforcement. A very scummy arrangement that is good for the developers and the towns/cities, but really bad for the residents. Your suggestion to buy somewhere that doesn't have an HOA sounds really good, except that most people don't have the money to buy the kind of home they would REALLY like. In other words, not everyone is rich, or lives in an area that the housing cost are reasonable compared to wages. For us working folks, HOAs can be a necessary evil, if we want to buy SOME kind of home. It must be nice to have lots of $$. It is unfortunate that for many, it really warps their comprehension of the reality of life for for regular working folks. We have a HOA in our development. The Association officers are responsible for contracting out the care and upkeep of the main entrance to the development (landscaping and sidewalk snow removal) as well as enforcing Association bylaws. They also review and approve fence and shed installations. Annual cost to each homeowner is $80. Folks purchasing houses in the developement are told up front of the Association and are given a copy of the bylaws. I don't mind it. It helps ensure we don't get junk cars and trailers parked in driveways and eventually adds to the worth of my house. BTW: I can work on or store my boat on the trailer in my driveway for 2 full weeks/year, which is reasonable. |
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