Yes, this post is on-topic. I just have to vent...thanks for
listening.

I live in an apartment and store my 17' v-hull I/O runabout boat in a
storage facility. Whenever I need to work on it, I go get the boat and
bring it to her house for a day or two and work on it there...nothing
major -- just routine stuff like winterizing, tuneups, and other minor
repairs or modifications...it's not like I'm leaving a junky boat half
torn apart in her driveway.

All has been well with this situation for the past 3 years or so until
now. A rep of the homeowner's association which regulates the
neighborhood my girlfriend lives in called her today saying that the
association regulations prohibit working on boats and that boats could
be loaded or unloaded only on your property.

Where does one practically work on their boat if they cannot work on it
at their house? I cannot afford to have someone do every little thing
to my boat when it needs something done to it. Sure, I could probably
get away with doing small things to it, but what about the other things
like winterizing or getting it ready to go in the Spring? The way I
see it, I am screwed and don't have much choice but to get rid of the
boat. What a depressing thought that is, especially since it is a boat
that has been in my family for 35 years, is running better than it ever
has, not to mention how much enjoyment we get from it.

Sorry..."her" in the second paragraph below refers to my girlfriend.

In article , Bob wrote:
:
:Yes, this post is on-topic. I just have to vent...thanks for
:listening.
:
:I live in an apartment and store my 17' v-hull I/O runabout boat in a
:storage facility. Whenever I need to work on it, I go get the boat and
:bring it to her house for a day or two and work on it there...nothing
:major -- just routine stuff like winterizing, tuneups, and other minor
:repairs or modifications...it's not like I'm leaving a junky boat half
:torn apart in her driveway.
:
:All has been well with this situation for the past 3 years or so until
:now. A rep of the homeowner's association which regulates the
:neighborhood my girlfriend lives in called her today saying that the
:association regulations prohibit working on boats and that boats could
:be loaded or unloaded only on your property.
:
:Where does one practically work on their boat if they cannot work on it
:at their house? I cannot afford to have someone do every little thing
:to my boat when it needs something done to it. Sure, I could probably
:get away with doing small things to it, but what about the other things
:like winterizing or getting it ready to go in the Spring? The way I
:see it, I am screwed and don't have much choice but to get rid of the
:boat. What a depressing thought that is, especially since it is a boat
:that has been in my family for 35 years, is running better than it ever
:has, not to mention how much enjoyment we get from it.
:
:

Buy a vacant lot nearby (if there are any). Put a chain link fence compound
on it and keep your boat there. If there was a house there, you'll have
access to electrical power and water hookups.

Mike Gardner wrote:
First, get a copy of the homeowner asssocation agreement. Read it
carefully. They tend to be written badly and often abused to meet the
current opinions of whomever overly self-important, no-life shucks who
currently enforce them like or don't like. Often what people are told
is not what is in the document - only what he person telling you thinks.

I would agree with all of this except for one problem. It's not his
house. He's just an invited guest. The girlfriend is the one that'll
wind up on the hot seat when things escalate. I don't think I'd want
to put someone else in that position be it girlfriend, platonic
friend, family, or anyone else.

But don't sell the boat. There's bound to be another way.

Rick

In article ,
wrote:
:Mike Gardner wrote:
:First, get a copy of the homeowner asssocation agreement. Read it
:carefully. They tend to be written badly and often abused to meet the
:current opinions of whomever overly self-important, no-life shucks who
:currently enforce them like or don't like. Often what people are told
:is not what is in the document - only what he person telling you thinks.
:
:I would agree with all of this except for one problem. It's not his
:house. He's just an invited guest. The girlfriend is the one that'll
:wind up on the hot seat when things escalate. I don't think I'd want
:to put someone else in that position be it girlfriend, platonic
:friend, family, or anyone else.
:
:But don't sell the boat. There's bound to be another way.
:
:Rick

I agree Rick...hate to see my GF have to go to court to keep her house
because of me.

Here are her HOA CC&Rs with regards to this:

"No boats, trucks, automobiles, or other vehicles, or trailers may be
stored in the open within view of the public street within this
subdivision for more than twenty-four (24) hours, nor may they be
repaired except in an emergency within said twenty-four (24) hour
period on any of the streets within this subdivision."

To me, this technically sounds like you could work on your boat in the
DRIVEWAY as long as it was an "emergency" AND you did it within the 24
hour period. But I get the feeling that they mean "within view" like
they mention in the first part talking about storage.

(Bob) wrote:
I get the feeling that they mean "within view" like
they mention in the first part talking about storage.

Exactly.

And there's another thing. We need to talk. This girlfriend thing can
get to be very slippery slope. First, she goes to bat for you, next
she drops a hint that it's no problem cuz soon you'll be living there
too, then she starts expecting a rock on her finger, you get the
picture. I'm tellin' ya man, the fairer sex can be veeeeery tricky. I
haven't remained a bachelor lo these many years without learnin' at
thing or two ;-)
Join a Yacht Club and use their facilities for boat maintenance.

Rick

In article ,
wrote:
Bob) wrote:
:I get the feeling that they mean "within view" like
:they mention in the first part talking about storage.
:
:Exactly.
:
:And there's another thing. We need to talk. This girlfriend thing can
:get to be very slippery slope. First, she goes to bat for you, next
:she drops a hint that it's no problem cuz soon you'll be living there
:too, then she starts expecting a rock on her finger, you get the
icture. I'm tellin' ya man, the fairer sex can be veeeeery tricky. I
:haven't remained a bachelor lo these many years without learnin' at
:thing or two ;-)
:Join a Yacht Club and use their facilities for boat maintenance.
:
:Rick

LOL. I think I'm OK on that front -- I've also managed to remain a
bachelor for all my 52 years, but I appreciate the words of
wisdom none the less! :-)

Will have to check into the Yach Club thing but I'm thinking that might
be pretty expensive and not very convenient since the nearest yacht
club is quite a ways away. I think I'll scale back doing any
maintenance or work at the house which requires I start the boat on the
trailer and instead haul it over to my cousin's place about a 1/2 hour
drive away or just wait to do those things just before launch and/or on
the water. F 'em if they want to get on us for me doing other little
things while it's parked in her driveway during the "24 hour storage
period".

I see the CCR intentionally doesn't specifically exclude motor homes.
Sure they could be grouped in the 'other vehicles' clause to stiff some
homeowner, but still leaves an out for the HOA Nazis to park THEIR land
yachts when they want to.
JR

Bob wrote:
In article ,
wrote:
:Mike Gardner wrote:
:First, get a copy of the homeowner asssocation agreement. Read it
:carefully. They tend to be written badly and often abused to meet the
:current opinions of whomever overly self-important, no-life shucks who
:currently enforce them like or don't like. Often what people are told
:is not what is in the document - only what he person telling you thinks.
:
:I would agree with all of this except for one problem. It's not his
:house. He's just an invited guest. The girlfriend is the one that'll
:wind up on the hot seat when things escalate. I don't think I'd want
:to put someone else in that position be it girlfriend, platonic
:friend, family, or anyone else.
:
:But don't sell the boat. There's bound to be another way.
:
:Rick

I agree Rick...hate to see my GF have to go to court to keep her house
because of me.

Here are her HOA CC&Rs with regards to this:

"No boats, trucks, automobiles, or other vehicles, or trailers may be
stored in the open within view of the public street within this
subdivision for more than twenty-four (24) hours, nor may they be
repaired except in an emergency within said twenty-four (24) hour
period on any of the streets within this subdivision."

To me, this technically sounds like you could work on your boat in the
DRIVEWAY as long as it was an "emergency" AND you did it within the 24
hour period. But I get the feeling that they mean "within view" like
they mention in the first part talking about storage.


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Bob wrote:
In article ,
wrote:
:Mike Gardner wrote:
:First, get a copy of the homeowner asssocation agreement. Read it
:carefully. They tend to be written badly and often abused to meet the
:current opinions of whomever overly self-important, no-life shucks who
:currently enforce them like or don't like. Often what people are told
:is not what is in the document - only what he person telling you thinks.
:
:I would agree with all of this except for one problem. It's not his
:house. He's just an invited guest. The girlfriend is the one that'll
:wind up on the hot seat when things escalate. I don't think I'd want
:to put someone else in that position be it girlfriend, platonic
:friend, family, or anyone else.
:
:But don't sell the boat. There's bound to be another way.
:
:Rick

I agree Rick...hate to see my GF have to go to court to keep her house
because of me.

Here are her HOA CC&Rs with regards to this:

"No boats, trucks, automobiles, or other vehicles, or trailers may be
stored in the open within view of the public street within this
subdivision for more than twenty-four (24) hours, nor may they be
repaired except in an emergency within said twenty-four (24) hour
period on any of the streets within this subdivision."

To me, this technically sounds like you could work on your boat in the
DRIVEWAY as long as it was an "emergency" AND you did it within the 24
hour period. But I get the feeling that they mean "within view" like
they mention in the first part talking about storage.

I'd hold them to their own rules and point out that you aren't
"repairing" the boat, you are performing routine "maintenance".

I'm sure they don't mind people washing or waxing their cars but they
would bitch if they dropped the transmission for a repair.

Dan

:But don't sell the boat. There's bound to be another way.
:
:Rick

I agree Rick...hate to see my GF have to go to court to keep her house
because of me.

Here are her HOA CC&Rs with regards to this:

"No boats, trucks, automobiles, or other vehicles, or trailers may be
stored in the open within view of the public street within this
subdivision for more than twenty-four (24) hours, nor may they be
repaired except in an emergency within said twenty-four (24) hour
period on any of the streets within this subdivision."

To me, this technically sounds like you could work on your boat in the
DRIVEWAY as long as it was an "emergency" AND you did it within the 24
hour period. But I get the feeling that they mean "within view" like
they mention in the first part talking about storage.



Sounds like you can park and perform your "emergency" repairs on the boat
for up to 24 hrs with no problem. "Winterizing" would become my next
"emergency" repair.