JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"BAR" wrote in message
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HK wrote:
JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"BAR" wrote in message
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john wrote:
"Midlant" wrote in message
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A privilege to drive your car? You sir, are a socialist and part of
the downfall of this country.

I have some socialist leanings ( I believe in social security, and
that everyone should be able to afford health care). But the folks
causing the downfall of this great country are the fascists in this
administration who have and are continually tramping on the
constitution.
Everyone has the opportunity to purchase health care just as they have
the opportunity to purchase food, shelter and clothing.

If you feel so strongly about this issue then why don't you set up a
foundation to pay for the health care or health care insurance costs of
those that don't have the money for health care or health care
insurance. Or better yet, why don't you spend your own money to pay for
some one else's health care insurance. Be the example!


Everyone also has the opportunity to purchase an 80 foot yacht.

Tell me what the least expensive family health insurance plan costs in
Rochester NY. At least take a guess.


And don't forget, everyone has the opportunity to buy a Lear Jet.
You make choices every day. Buy the Lear Jet or buy something else. It is
all about the choices you make.


Tell me what the least expensive family health insurance plan costs in
Rochester NY. At least take a guess.

Why?

John H. wrote:
On Sat, 18 Aug 2007 08:51:43 -0400, BAR wrote:

HK wrote:
JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"BAR" wrote in message
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john wrote:
"Midlant" wrote in message
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A privilege to drive your car? You sir, are a socialist and part of
the downfall of this country.

I have some socialist leanings ( I believe in social security, and
that everyone should be able to afford health care). But the folks
causing the downfall of this great country are the fascists in this
administration who have and are continually tramping on the
constitution.
Everyone has the opportunity to purchase health care just as they
have the opportunity to purchase food, shelter and clothing.

If you feel so strongly about this issue then why don't you set up a
foundation to pay for the health care or health care insurance costs
of those that don't have the money for health care or health care
insurance. Or better yet, why don't you spend your own money to pay
for some one else's health care insurance. Be the example!


Everyone also has the opportunity to purchase an 80 foot yacht.

Tell me what the least expensive family health insurance plan costs in
Rochester NY. At least take a guess.


And don't forget, everyone has the opportunity to buy a Lear Jet.
You make choices every day. Buy the Lear Jet or buy something else. It
is all about the choices you make.

And we do wish people would take their political trash somewhere else.

As for choices, what do you think...

http://tinyurl.com/27277t

or

http://www.scoutboats.com/models/185sportfish.html

Oh, forgot to mention I played Needwood today, shot a 95.

JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"BAR" wrote in message
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JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"BAR" wrote in message
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john wrote:
"Midlant" wrote in message
...
A privilege to drive your car? You sir, are a socialist and part of
the downfall of this country.

I have some socialist leanings ( I believe in social security, and that
everyone should be able to afford health care). But the folks causing
the downfall of this great country are the fascists in this
administration who have and are continually tramping on the
constitution.
Everyone has the opportunity to purchase health care just as they have
the opportunity to purchase food, shelter and clothing.

If you feel so strongly about this issue then why don't you set up a
foundation to pay for the health care or health care insurance costs of
those that don't have the money for health care or health care
insurance. Or better yet, why don't you spend your own money to pay for
some one else's health care insurance. Be the example!


Everyone also has the opportunity to purchase an 80 foot yacht.

Tell me what the least expensive family health insurance plan costs in
Rochester NY. At least take a guess.
It doesn't matter what it costs in Rochester, NY. Do you have the
opportunity to purchase health care insurance? Yes or no?

Yes.

Tell me what the least expensive family health insurance plan costs in
Rochester NY. At least take a guess.

Why? Again.

HK wrote:
Don White wrote:
wrote in message
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On Aug 18, 9:50 am, John H. wrote:
On Sat, 18 Aug 2007 12:06:33 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"





wrote:
"BAR" wrote in message
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john wrote:
"Midlant" wrote in message
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A privilege to drive your car? You sir, are a socialist and part
of the
downfall of this country.
I have some socialist leanings ( I believe in social security,
and that
everyone should be able to afford health care). But the folks
causing
the downfall of this great country are the fascists in this
administration who have and are continually tramping on the
constitution.
Everyone has the opportunity to purchase health care just as they
have the
opportunity to purchase food, shelter and clothing.
If you feel so strongly about this issue then why don't you set up a
foundation to pay for the health care or health care insurance
costs of
those that don't have the money for health care or health care
insurance.
Or better yet, why don't you spend your own money to pay for some one
else's health care insurance. Be the example!
Everyone also has the opportunity to purchase an 80 foot yacht.
Tell me what the least expensive family health insurance plan costs in
Rochester NY. At least take a guess.
And everyone has the opportunity to take their political tripe to
a.politics.

So, what do you think of my new boat selection?
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Yeah, really? No one even commented. I thought I would hold off, but
geeze. Anyway, I like the lines of the hull on many of their smaller
boats like the 14 and 17's. My only comment is how big it is and how
difficult it might be to single launch and such, Do you boat in open
or protected water, if protected, I might even go a couple feet
smaller. If open water, get a good skid protector on the keel, and
some good bumpers.

Good point. That in-between size can be awkward.
If a person always has at least one able crew along...no problem. If
not, I'd be tempted to either go a bit bigger and keep the boat at a
mooring/slip, or go smaller to something easily handled by one person.
As you say, a lot depends on where you boat and the conditions you're
brave or foolish enough to venture out in.



Jeez...I used to launch and retrieve the original Yo Ho alone once in a
while. This was a boat 25' long, plus another seven feet for the pulpit
and outboard bracket. Close to 7000 pounds with fuel. On and off a bunk
trailer. I could launch a 21-footer blindfolded.

You are a freaking genius.

"BAR" wrote in message
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JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"BAR" wrote in message
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HK wrote:
JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"BAR" wrote in message
. ..
john wrote:
"Midlant" wrote in message
...
A privilege to drive your car? You sir, are a socialist and part of
the downfall of this country.

I have some socialist leanings ( I believe in social security, and
that everyone should be able to afford health care). But the folks
causing the downfall of this great country are the fascists in this
administration who have and are continually tramping on the
constitution.
Everyone has the opportunity to purchase health care just as they
have the opportunity to purchase food, shelter and clothing.

If you feel so strongly about this issue then why don't you set up a
foundation to pay for the health care or health care insurance costs
of those that don't have the money for health care or health care
insurance. Or better yet, why don't you spend your own money to pay
for some one else's health care insurance. Be the example!


Everyone also has the opportunity to purchase an 80 foot yacht.

Tell me what the least expensive family health insurance plan costs in
Rochester NY. At least take a guess.


And don't forget, everyone has the opportunity to buy a Lear Jet.
You make choices every day. Buy the Lear Jet or buy something else. It
is all about the choices you make.


Tell me what the least expensive family health insurance plan costs in
Rochester NY. At least take a guess.

Why?


You made a blanket statement about everyone having an opportunity to buy
health insurance. If a product is not affordable for you, you do NOT have
the opportunity. So, I need to know what number you are imagining in your
head.

"BAR" wrote in message
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John H. wrote:
On Sat, 18 Aug 2007 08:51:43 -0400, BAR wrote:

HK wrote:
JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
Everyone also has the opportunity to purchase an 80 foot yacht.

Tell me what the least expensive family health insurance plan costs in
Rochester NY. At least take a guess.


And don't forget, everyone has the opportunity to buy a Lear Jet.
You make choices every day. Buy the Lear Jet or buy something else. It
is all about the choices you make.

And we do wish people would take their political trash somewhere else.

As for choices, what do you think...

http://tinyurl.com/27277t

or

http://www.scoutboats.com/models/185sportfish.html

I believe there is not enough room behind the helm. The two seats take up
valuable fishing space on a boat of that size. This looks like a
compromise between what the wife wants and what the fisherman wants.

I would rather purchase a http://www.gradywhite.com/180/

Huh? Your complaint was the amount of room behind the helm for fishing.
The Grady actually appears to have less.

Personally I don't care for either.

I want a boat that can be used for fishing or some daytime cruising, with a
cuddy area. As our runabout has been promised to our son this is hopefully
our next boat: http://www.gradywhite.com/232/

JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"BAR" wrote in message
...
JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"BAR" wrote in message
. ..
HK wrote:
JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"BAR" wrote in message
. ..
john wrote:
"Midlant" wrote in message
...
A privilege to drive your car? You sir, are a socialist and part of
the downfall of this country.

I have some socialist leanings ( I believe in social security, and
that everyone should be able to afford health care). But the folks
causing the downfall of this great country are the fascists in this
administration who have and are continually tramping on the
constitution.
Everyone has the opportunity to purchase health care just as they
have the opportunity to purchase food, shelter and clothing.

If you feel so strongly about this issue then why don't you set up a
foundation to pay for the health care or health care insurance costs
of those that don't have the money for health care or health care
insurance. Or better yet, why don't you spend your own money to pay
for some one else's health care insurance. Be the example!

Everyone also has the opportunity to purchase an 80 foot yacht.

Tell me what the least expensive family health insurance plan costs in
Rochester NY. At least take a guess.

And don't forget, everyone has the opportunity to buy a Lear Jet.
You make choices every day. Buy the Lear Jet or buy something else. It
is all about the choices you make.

Tell me what the least expensive family health insurance plan costs in
Rochester NY. At least take a guess.
Why?


You made a blanket statement about everyone having an opportunity to buy
health insurance. If a product is not affordable for you, you do NOT have
the opportunity. So, I need to know what number you are imagining in your
head.

Why?

JimH wrote:
"BAR" wrote in message
...
John H. wrote:
On Sat, 18 Aug 2007 08:51:43 -0400, BAR wrote:

HK wrote:
JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
Everyone also has the opportunity to purchase an 80 foot yacht.

Tell me what the least expensive family health insurance plan costs in
Rochester NY. At least take a guess.

And don't forget, everyone has the opportunity to buy a Lear Jet.
You make choices every day. Buy the Lear Jet or buy something else. It
is all about the choices you make.
And we do wish people would take their political trash somewhere else.

As for choices, what do you think...

http://tinyurl.com/27277t

or

http://www.scoutboats.com/models/185sportfish.html
I believe there is not enough room behind the helm. The two seats take up
valuable fishing space on a boat of that size. This looks like a
compromise between what the wife wants and what the fisherman wants.

I would rather purchase a http://www.gradywhite.com/180/

Huh? Your complaint was the amount of room behind the helm for fishing.
The Grady actually appears to have less.

Personally I don't care for either.

I want a boat that can be used for fishing or some daytime cruising, with a
cuddy area. As our runabout has been promised to our son this is hopefully
our next boat: http://www.gradywhite.com/232/

The Grady 232 is effectively a floating square.

"BAR" wrote in message
news
JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"BAR" wrote in message
...
JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"BAR" wrote in message
. ..
HK wrote:
JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"BAR" wrote in message
. ..
john wrote:
"Midlant" wrote in message
...
A privilege to drive your car? You sir, are a socialist and part
of the downfall of this country.

I have some socialist leanings ( I believe in social security, and
that everyone should be able to afford health care). But the
folks causing the downfall of this great country are the fascists
in this administration who have and are continually tramping on
the constitution.
Everyone has the opportunity to purchase health care just as they
have the opportunity to purchase food, shelter and clothing.

If you feel so strongly about this issue then why don't you set up
a foundation to pay for the health care or health care insurance
costs of those that don't have the money for health care or health
care insurance. Or better yet, why don't you spend your own money
to pay for some one else's health care insurance. Be the example!

Everyone also has the opportunity to purchase an 80 foot yacht.

Tell me what the least expensive family health insurance plan costs
in Rochester NY. At least take a guess.

And don't forget, everyone has the opportunity to buy a Lear Jet.
You make choices every day. Buy the Lear Jet or buy something else. It
is all about the choices you make.

Tell me what the least expensive family health insurance plan costs in
Rochester NY. At least take a guess.
Why?


You made a blanket statement about everyone having an opportunity to buy
health insurance. If a product is not affordable for you, you do NOT have
the opportunity. So, I need to know what number you are imagining in your
head.

Why?

Because opportunity does not exist without the means to take advantage of
it. You don't know if "everyone" has the means unless you know the cost.

What cost are you imagining?

"BAR" wrote in message
news
JimH wrote:
"BAR" wrote in message
...
John H. wrote:
On Sat, 18 Aug 2007 08:51:43 -0400, BAR wrote:

HK wrote:
JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
Everyone also has the opportunity to purchase an 80 foot yacht.

Tell me what the least expensive family health insurance plan costs
in Rochester NY. At least take a guess.

And don't forget, everyone has the opportunity to buy a Lear Jet.
You make choices every day. Buy the Lear Jet or buy something else. It
is all about the choices you make.
And we do wish people would take their political trash somewhere else.

As for choices, what do you think...

http://tinyurl.com/27277t

or

http://www.scoutboats.com/models/185sportfish.html
I believe there is not enough room behind the helm. The two seats take
up valuable fishing space on a boat of that size. This looks like a
compromise between what the wife wants and what the fisherman wants.

I would rather purchase a http://www.gradywhite.com/180/

Huh? Your complaint was the amount of room behind the helm for fishing.
The Grady actually appears to have less.

Personally I don't care for either.

I want a boat that can be used for fishing or some daytime cruising, with
a cuddy area. As our runabout has been promised to our son this is
hopefully our next boat: http://www.gradywhite.com/232/

The Grady 232 is effectively a floating square.



That statement sums up all I need to know about your knowledge of boats and
math. ;-)