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On Fri, 03 Aug 2007 16:41:54 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

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On Thu, 2 Aug 2007 22:50:23 -0700, "Mike" wrote:

You want a review of the Ram... ok.

My 1st in 1984 (1/2 ton, 2wd) went 130,000 with nothing other than an
electronic ignition module that went bad at about 50,000. I replaced it
with
a standard vacuum advance, and it was good 'till I traded it on a 1990
(3/4
ton, 4wd). The 1990 had the tranny go south at 60,000 but was replaced
under
warantee, and was problem free till I traded it on a '95 at about 100k.
The
'95 (3/4 ton, 4wd, extended cab) was absolutely problem free until I
traded
it on my current Dodge... an '03. The '95 had about 150k on it at the
time.
So far, the '03 (3/4 ton, 4wd, crew cab, hemi) has not had a single
problem
other than normal stuff (brakes, tune-up, etc) as with the other trucks.
I've only got about 50k on it right now. Until Dodge gives me a reason
to
go
elsewhere, it's the truck for me.

--Mike


To someone who owns Toyotas, the above sounds like a series of lemons.
Why
would
you be replacing trannies and ignition systems at 50-60k? And why was
the
original ignition system not replaced with the same thing as the
original?
Did
someone tell you it would probably fail again?

I owned a 64 Dodge Dart convertible with a slant 6 that was pretty good.
I
think
it must have been a very different company back then.




A large segment of the buying public was (and probably still is) willing
to
pretend that a short life span is normal for certain car brands. Cars are
a
unique product category in this regard.


You forgot to post the source of your data for your claims about the
buying
public. Please do so right now.
--
John H

Interviews, and blindly loyal comments from people who think replacing a
tranny at 60k miles is normal.

On Fri, 03 Aug 2007 17:00:41 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"John H." wrote in message
.. .
On Fri, 03 Aug 2007 16:41:54 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

wrote in message
...
On Thu, 2 Aug 2007 22:50:23 -0700, "Mike" wrote:

You want a review of the Ram... ok.

My 1st in 1984 (1/2 ton, 2wd) went 130,000 with nothing other than an
electronic ignition module that went bad at about 50,000. I replaced it
with
a standard vacuum advance, and it was good 'till I traded it on a 1990
(3/4
ton, 4wd). The 1990 had the tranny go south at 60,000 but was replaced
under
warantee, and was problem free till I traded it on a '95 at about 100k.
The
'95 (3/4 ton, 4wd, extended cab) was absolutely problem free until I
traded
it on my current Dodge... an '03. The '95 had about 150k on it at the
time.
So far, the '03 (3/4 ton, 4wd, crew cab, hemi) has not had a single
problem
other than normal stuff (brakes, tune-up, etc) as with the other trucks.
I've only got about 50k on it right now. Until Dodge gives me a reason
to
go
elsewhere, it's the truck for me.

--Mike


To someone who owns Toyotas, the above sounds like a series of lemons.
Why
would
you be replacing trannies and ignition systems at 50-60k? And why was
the
original ignition system not replaced with the same thing as the
original?
Did
someone tell you it would probably fail again?

I owned a 64 Dodge Dart convertible with a slant 6 that was pretty good.
I
think
it must have been a very different company back then.




A large segment of the buying public was (and probably still is) willing
to
pretend that a short life span is normal for certain car brands. Cars are
a
unique product category in this regard.


You forgot to post the source of your data for your claims about the
buying
public. Please do so right now.
--
John H

Interviews, and blindly loyal comments from people who think replacing a
tranny at 60k miles is normal.


That is a hell of a source.
--
John H

"John H." wrote in message
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On Fri, 03 Aug 2007 17:00:41 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"John H." wrote in message
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On Fri, 03 Aug 2007 16:41:54 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

wrote in message
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On Thu, 2 Aug 2007 22:50:23 -0700, "Mike" wrote:

You want a review of the Ram... ok.

My 1st in 1984 (1/2 ton, 2wd) went 130,000 with nothing other than an
electronic ignition module that went bad at about 50,000. I replaced
it
with
a standard vacuum advance, and it was good 'till I traded it on a 1990
(3/4
ton, 4wd). The 1990 had the tranny go south at 60,000 but was replaced
under
warantee, and was problem free till I traded it on a '95 at about
100k.
The
'95 (3/4 ton, 4wd, extended cab) was absolutely problem free until I
traded
it on my current Dodge... an '03. The '95 had about 150k on it at the
time.
So far, the '03 (3/4 ton, 4wd, crew cab, hemi) has not had a single
problem
other than normal stuff (brakes, tune-up, etc) as with the other
trucks.
I've only got about 50k on it right now. Until Dodge gives me a reason
to
go
elsewhere, it's the truck for me.

--Mike


To someone who owns Toyotas, the above sounds like a series of lemons.
Why
would
you be replacing trannies and ignition systems at 50-60k? And why was
the
original ignition system not replaced with the same thing as the
original?
Did
someone tell you it would probably fail again?

I owned a 64 Dodge Dart convertible with a slant 6 that was pretty
good.
I
think
it must have been a very different company back then.




A large segment of the buying public was (and probably still is) willing
to
pretend that a short life span is normal for certain car brands. Cars
are
a
unique product category in this regard.


You forgot to post the source of your data for your claims about the
buying
public. Please do so right now.
--
John H

Interviews, and blindly loyal comments from people who think replacing a
tranny at 60k miles is normal.


That is a hell of a source.
--
John H

Oh? You'd be more impressed if a magazine author got the same information by
speaking to the same kinds of people, and then reported it to you? I don't
need intermediaries.

On Aug 3, 1:19 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:
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On Fri, 03 Aug 2007 17:00:41 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"John H." wrote in message
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On Fri, 03 Aug 2007 16:41:54 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

wrote in message
m...
On Thu, 2 Aug 2007 22:50:23 -0700, "Mike" wrote:

You want a review of the Ram... ok.

My 1st in 1984 (1/2 ton, 2wd) went 130,000 with nothing other than an
electronic ignition module that went bad at about 50,000. I replaced
it
with
a standard vacuum advance, and it was good 'till I traded it on a 1990
(3/4
ton, 4wd). The 1990 had the tranny go south at 60,000 but was replaced
under
warantee, and was problem free till I traded it on a '95 at about
100k.
The
'95 (3/4 ton, 4wd, extended cab) was absolutely problem free until I
traded
it on my current Dodge... an '03. The '95 had about 150k on it at the
time.
So far, the '03 (3/4 ton, 4wd, crew cab, hemi) has not had a single
problem
other than normal stuff (brakes, tune-up, etc) as with the other
trucks.
I've only got about 50k on it right now. Until Dodge gives me a reason
to
go
elsewhere, it's the truck for me.

--Mike

To someone who owns Toyotas, the above sounds like a series of lemons.
Why
would
you be replacing trannies and ignition systems at 50-60k? And why was
the
original ignition system not replaced with the same thing as the
original?
Did
someone tell you it would probably fail again?

I owned a 64 Dodge Dart convertible with a slant 6 that was pretty
good.
I
think
it must have been a very different company back then.

A large segment of the buying public was (and probably still is) willing
to
pretend that a short life span is normal for certain car brands. Cars
are
a
unique product category in this regard.

You forgot to post the source of your data for your claims about the
buying
public. Please do so right now.
--
John H

Interviews, and blindly loyal comments from people who think replacing a
tranny at 60k miles is normal.

That is a hell of a source.
--
John H

Oh? You'd be more impressed if a magazine author got the same information by
speaking to the same kinds of people, and then reported it to you? I don't
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OK, so which one would you rather ride down a rough road? Which one
would you rather resell? Which one would you drive to the ground?
Which one would you drive your girl friend to the beach in? Real tool
guys realize that everyone uses different tools for different
activities, I have 11 hammers, and use them all. There is no excuse
anymore for any engine or drivetrain to fail unless used beyond it's
design. I know there are times, but basically, modern drive trains,
taken care of, not abused, should outlast most bodies. If it comes to
towing, and I had my druthers, I would take the old ladder frame Ford.
Taking a couple of kakaks and my babe to the beach, maybe the Toyota,
or of course my personal fav, not in the discussion, my old CJ. Just
some ramblings from someone who has worked in the automotive
industry , towing industry (wreckers were all Fords BTW, the hook was
a 1976. and done a good deal of off roading GMC and Jeep mostly...

One last thought before I go use my BOAT!!! Remember boats anyone.
Maybe you all love your trucks so much cause you are just really smart
guys, bought the right tool in the first place, took care of it, and
it served you well

On Fri, 03 Aug 2007 17:19:26 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"John H." wrote in message
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On Fri, 03 Aug 2007 17:00:41 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"John H." wrote in message
...
On Fri, 03 Aug 2007 16:41:54 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

wrote in message
om...
On Thu, 2 Aug 2007 22:50:23 -0700, "Mike" wrote:

You want a review of the Ram... ok.

My 1st in 1984 (1/2 ton, 2wd) went 130,000 with nothing other than an
electronic ignition module that went bad at about 50,000. I replaced
it
with
a standard vacuum advance, and it was good 'till I traded it on a 1990
(3/4
ton, 4wd). The 1990 had the tranny go south at 60,000 but was replaced
under
warantee, and was problem free till I traded it on a '95 at about
100k.
The
'95 (3/4 ton, 4wd, extended cab) was absolutely problem free until I
traded
it on my current Dodge... an '03. The '95 had about 150k on it at the
time.
So far, the '03 (3/4 ton, 4wd, crew cab, hemi) has not had a single
problem
other than normal stuff (brakes, tune-up, etc) as with the other
trucks.
I've only got about 50k on it right now. Until Dodge gives me a reason
to
go
elsewhere, it's the truck for me.

--Mike


To someone who owns Toyotas, the above sounds like a series of lemons.
Why
would
you be replacing trannies and ignition systems at 50-60k? And why was
the
original ignition system not replaced with the same thing as the
original?
Did
someone tell you it would probably fail again?

I owned a 64 Dodge Dart convertible with a slant 6 that was pretty
good.
I
think
it must have been a very different company back then.




A large segment of the buying public was (and probably still is) willing
to
pretend that a short life span is normal for certain car brands. Cars
are
a
unique product category in this regard.


You forgot to post the source of your data for your claims about the
buying
public. Please do so right now.
--
John H

Interviews, and blindly loyal comments from people who think replacing a
tranny at 60k miles is normal.


That is a hell of a source.
--
John H

Oh? You'd be more impressed if a magazine author got the same information by
speaking to the same kinds of people, and then reported it to you? I don't
need intermediaries.


Perhaps Capt John needed none either.
--
John H

On Aug 3, 2:59 pm, John H. wrote:
On Fri, 03 Aug 2007 17:19:26 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"





wrote:
"John H." wrote in message
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On Fri, 03 Aug 2007 17:00:41 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"John H." wrote in message
...
On Fri, 03 Aug 2007 16:41:54 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

wrote in message
om...
On Thu, 2 Aug 2007 22:50:23 -0700, "Mike" wrote:

You want a review of the Ram... ok.

My 1st in 1984 (1/2 ton, 2wd) went 130,000 with nothing other than an
electronic ignition module that went bad at about 50,000. I replaced
it
with
a standard vacuum advance, and it was good 'till I traded it on a 1990
(3/4
ton, 4wd). The 1990 had the tranny go south at 60,000 but was replaced
under
warantee, and was problem free till I traded it on a '95 at about
100k.
The
'95 (3/4 ton, 4wd, extended cab) was absolutely problem free until I
traded
it on my current Dodge... an '03. The '95 had about 150k on it at the
time.
So far, the '03 (3/4 ton, 4wd, crew cab, hemi) has not had a single
problem
other than normal stuff (brakes, tune-up, etc) as with the other
trucks.
I've only got about 50k on it right now. Until Dodge gives me a reason
to
go
elsewhere, it's the truck for me.

--Mike

To someone who owns Toyotas, the above sounds like a series of lemons.
Why
would
you be replacing trannies and ignition systems at 50-60k? And why was
the
original ignition system not replaced with the same thing as the
original?
Did
someone tell you it would probably fail again?

I owned a 64 Dodge Dart convertible with a slant 6 that was pretty
good.
I
think
it must have been a very different company back then.

A large segment of the buying public was (and probably still is) willing
to
pretend that a short life span is normal for certain car brands. Cars
are
a
unique product category in this regard.

You forgot to post the source of your data for your claims about the
buying
public. Please do so right now.
--
John H

Interviews, and blindly loyal comments from people who think replacing a
tranny at 60k miles is normal.

That is a hell of a source.
--
John H

Oh? You'd be more impressed if a magazine author got the same information by
speaking to the same kinds of people, and then reported it to you? I don't
need intermediaries.

Perhaps Capt John needed none either.
--
John H- Hide quoted text -

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You really need to stop making an idiot out of this guy

On Fri, 03 Aug 2007 18:28:16 -0000, wrote:

On Aug 3, 2:59 pm, John H. wrote:
On Fri, 03 Aug 2007 17:19:26 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"





wrote:
"John H." wrote in message
.. .
On Fri, 03 Aug 2007 17:00:41 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"John H." wrote in message
...
On Fri, 03 Aug 2007 16:41:54 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

wrote in message
om...
On Thu, 2 Aug 2007 22:50:23 -0700, "Mike" wrote:

You want a review of the Ram... ok.

My 1st in 1984 (1/2 ton, 2wd) went 130,000 with nothing other than an
electronic ignition module that went bad at about 50,000. I replaced
it
with
a standard vacuum advance, and it was good 'till I traded it on a 1990
(3/4
ton, 4wd). The 1990 had the tranny go south at 60,000 but was replaced
under
warantee, and was problem free till I traded it on a '95 at about
100k.
The
'95 (3/4 ton, 4wd, extended cab) was absolutely problem free until I
traded
it on my current Dodge... an '03. The '95 had about 150k on it at the
time.
So far, the '03 (3/4 ton, 4wd, crew cab, hemi) has not had a single
problem
other than normal stuff (brakes, tune-up, etc) as with the other
trucks.
I've only got about 50k on it right now. Until Dodge gives me a reason
to
go
elsewhere, it's the truck for me.

--Mike

To someone who owns Toyotas, the above sounds like a series of lemons.
Why
would
you be replacing trannies and ignition systems at 50-60k? And why was
the
original ignition system not replaced with the same thing as the
original?
Did
someone tell you it would probably fail again?

I owned a 64 Dodge Dart convertible with a slant 6 that was pretty
good.
I
think
it must have been a very different company back then.

A large segment of the buying public was (and probably still is) willing
to
pretend that a short life span is normal for certain car brands. Cars
are
a
unique product category in this regard.

You forgot to post the source of your data for your claims about the
buying
public. Please do so right now.
--
John H

Interviews, and blindly loyal comments from people who think replacing a
tranny at 60k miles is normal.

That is a hell of a source.
--
John H

Oh? You'd be more impressed if a magazine author got the same information by
speaking to the same kinds of people, and then reported it to you? I don't
need intermediaries.

Perhaps Capt John needed none either.
--
John H- Hide quoted text -

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You really need to stop making an idiot out of this guy

He loves it. And he needs the attention from folks like Harry. That's why
he won't visit 'a.politics' and converse in an appropriate group.
--
John H

So....johnny boy...when there are no OT posts for you to pounce on, how do
you stay busy? Cleaning the lint trap on your dryer?