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Blade Orientation?
What did Einstein say?
Something like "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has it's limits." ? Coming from a wing paddle - where the larger half of the blade goes upwards, I started orienting my first surf paddle accordingly. I suspect I have the white surf paddle in the attached link/photo upside down. Which paddle is oriented correctly - the one with black or blades or the one with white blades? http://www.flickr.com/photos/48262653@N00/890740458/ -- PeteCresswell |
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Blade Orientation?
"(PeteCresswell)" wrote:
Which paddle is oriented correctly - the one with black or blades or the one with white blades? http://www.flickr.com/photos/48262653@N00/890740458/ Both? With asymmetric blades, it's the angle of the far end that matters. The fact that the black paddle has a bump on the bottom, whereas the white paddle has a bump on the top, is immaterial. I'm not Werner from Sultan WA, but I believe the purpose of the white paddle is to balance immediately upon immersion in the water. The downside of this design is that it drips a lot. That's why I prefer the non-downturned Powerhouse style blade. I'm not sure about the purpose of the black paddle. Looks like a sucky design. I bet it flutters in the water, because its sweet-spot is high/far on the top, and low/near on the bottom. |
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Blade Orientation?
Per Bill Tuthill:
I'm not sure about the purpose of the black paddle. Looks like a sucky design. I bet it flutters in the water, because its sweet-spot is high/far on the top, and low/near on the bottom. They both work. It's just that after a surf session with the white one, I always come away with some sort of minor ding in one or both shoulders. Werner's spiel for that one ("SideKick") talks about "...strong, well conditioned..." users, so my assumption is that it's too much paddle for Yours Truly - who paddles for hours at a time against the clock with a wing paddle with no shoulder issues. The black one ("Stkine") has less paddle area and is almost 3" shorter (184 vs 191). It's also foam construction - which makes balancing a surf ski while sitting waiting for a wave in chop significantly easier... you can just lay it in the water instead of having to constantly scull to keep it on the surface. In fact, now that I'm thinking about it, the shorter length and floaty blade had as much weight in the decision to buy as the shoulder issue - which could also just be a technique/surf conditions thing. -- PeteCresswell |
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"(PeteCresswell)" wrote:
The black one ("Stkine") has less paddle area and is almost 3" shorter (184 vs 191). It's also foam construction... For some reason, Werner Stikine paddles shown on the web look better to me than in your picture. It has basically the same blade shape as the Powerhouse, but smaller. The Powerhouse is such a great paddle, it does what I want without my even having to think. And no drip rings! Stikine is a strange name for a paddle that purports to be a "creek" paddle. Stikine is a huge river in BC. Rob Lesser was on the team that first kayaked the Grand Canyon of the Stikine. I would never buy a black creek paddle, that's just dumb. I could paint it red, but that would hide the logo, then we wouldn't know which side is up! ;-) |
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Blade Orientation?
Per Bill Tuthill:
Stikine is a strange name for a paddle that purports to be a "creek" paddle. Stikine is a huge river in BC. Rob Lesser was on the team that first kayaked the Grand Canyon of the Stikine. I would never buy a black creek paddle, that's just dumb. I was wondering where they got the name. Thanks for that bit of enlightenment. This paddle is for wave ski use. Tried it yesterday. The decrease in low-end power in foamy water is noticeable. OTOH, I didn't come out of it with any shoulder issues and the floaty aspect of the foam core construction is a significant improvement when it comes to balancing when I'm just sitting there waiting for a wave. -- PeteCresswell |
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Blade Orientation?
I'm going to stick my neck out and say most paddles I've seen are right side
up when their logo is right side up and facing you. Having said that, whatever works for you. -- Bob Noble http://www.sonic.net/bnoble "(PeteCresswell)" wrote in message ... What did Einstein say? Something like "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has it's limits." ? Coming from a wing paddle - where the larger half of the blade goes upwards, I started orienting my first surf paddle accordingly. I suspect I have the white surf paddle in the attached link/photo upside down. Which paddle is oriented correctly - the one with black or blades or the one with white blades? http://www.flickr.com/photos/48262653@N00/890740458/ -- PeteCresswell |
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Blade Orientation?
Per Bob Noble:
I'm going to stick my neck out and say most paddles I've seen are right side up when their logo is right side up and facing you. Having said that, whatever works for you. Well, now I don't feel *quite* as dumb as I did when I made the post.... -) -- PeteCresswell |
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Blade Orientation?
(PeteCresswell) wrote:
What did Einstein say? Something like "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has it's limits." ? Coming from a wing paddle - where the larger half of the blade goes upwards, I started orienting my first surf paddle accordingly. I suspect I have the white surf paddle in the attached link/photo upside down. Which paddle is oriented correctly - the one with black or blades or the one with white blades? http://www.flickr.com/photos/48262653@N00/890740458/ From... http://www.wernerpaddles.com/paddles/sidekick.html "Down tipped blades enter the water sooner for immediate response during quick play boating moves" If you click through all the paddles you'll the orientation at the top of each page. Steve "I may be wrong but I'm not uncertain" - Heinlein |
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Blade Orientation?
Per Steve Landis:
"Down tipped blades enter the water sooner for immediate response during quick play boating moves" If you click through all the paddles you'll the orientation at the top of each page. Yeah, I saw that... but I don't comprehend the meaning of "down-tipped". Sounds obvious, but when I look at the blade questions arise.... Seems logical to print "Left" and "Right" somewhere on one or both blades.... OTOH, maybe they tried that and users felt their intelligence was being questioned.... -) -- PeteCresswell |
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Blade Orientation?
Per (PeteCresswell):
Which paddle is oriented correctly - the one with black or blades or the one with white blades? http://www.flickr.com/photos/48262653@N00/890740458/ Beeeeg surprise. I went to the mountain: Called Werner customer service and flipped them the link. BOTH paddles are oriented correctly. Go figure... -) -- PeteCresswell |
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