On Jul 20, 9:44 am, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:
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On Jul 20, 7:03 am, Short Wave Sportfishing
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Sometimes you pay for a guide for the lessons, sometimes for the fish.

This time it was information and I took the max advantage of it.-

Point taken. I have been out every day save one since you left,
practicing. Still setting with the reel, hard habit to bust, but I am
working on it

Setting with the reel????

I have a couple of pretty frustrating habits. One is spinning the
handle on the reel instead of jerking the pole to set hooks, of course
I lose a lot of fish that way. Sounds funny, but I have been working
on it almost every day for weeks now and it is a hard habit to break.
Another one is pointing the rod directly at the 3-4 pound bass right
before the captain gets to land it

See, I have never really been serious about my fishing even though I
go a lot. A slow troll with some headphones, something to relax with,
my dog, and a guitar at dusk is great fishing for me, if the kids are
swimming off the other side of the boat, that's even better. Other
than that, similar with live bait just drifting or anchored. This
whole, hold the pole, cast, reel, cast, reel, twitch, reel... don't
leave much time for daydreaming, looking at clouds, or mangeling
Dylan, Creedence, and Arlo. I have some buds that are more serious
fishermen, but they bring me along anyway. I add to the catch limit
of the boat so they can stay out longer So I guess it's a matter of
what you call fishing. I mean, if it requires work and catching fish,
yeah, I suck...

But anyway, I have decided after 45 years of silly fishing, it is time
to take it more seriously. I have the boat, equipment, desire, and
have found a few nice local spots. Still be days like today to just
float and play, but anytime you can get on the water with the family
is cool.

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On Jul 20, 9:44 am, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:
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On Jul 20, 7:03 am, Short Wave Sportfishing
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Sometimes you pay for a guide for the lessons, sometimes for the fish.

This time it was information and I took the max advantage of it.-

Point taken. I have been out every day save one since you left,
practicing. Still setting with the reel, hard habit to bust, but I am
working on it

Setting with the reel????

I have a couple of pretty frustrating habits. One is spinning the
handle on the reel instead of jerking the pole to set hooks, of course
I lose a lot of fish that way. Sounds funny, but I have been working
on it almost every day for weeks now and it is a hard habit to break.
Another one is pointing the rod directly at the 3-4 pound bass right
before the captain gets to land it

See, I have never really been serious about my fishing even though I
go a lot. A slow troll with some headphones, something to relax with,
my dog, and a guitar at dusk is great fishing for me, if the kids are
swimming off the other side of the boat, that's even better. Other
than that, similar with live bait just drifting or anchored. This
whole, hold the pole, cast, reel, cast, reel, twitch, reel... don't
leave much time for daydreaming, looking at clouds, or mangeling
Dylan, Creedence, and Arlo. I have some buds that are more serious
fishermen, but they bring me along anyway. I add to the catch limit
of the boat so they can stay out longer So I guess it's a matter of
what you call fishing. I mean, if it requires work and catching fish,
yeah, I suck...

But anyway, I have decided after 45 years of silly fishing, it is time
to take it more seriously. I have the boat, equipment, desire, and
have found a few nice local spots. Still be days like today to just
float and play, but anytime you can get on the water with the family
is cool.



This would probably help break those bad fishing habits, and your kids would
have a ball, pushing the shock button to "help" you:

http://www.llbean.com/webapp/wcs/sto...Search&feat=sr

Use circle hooks, and you can continue to "set with the reel".


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On Jul 20, 9:44 am, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:
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On Jul 20, 7:03 am, Short Wave Sportfishing
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Sometimes you pay for a guide for the lessons, sometimes for the fish.

This time it was information and I took the max advantage of it.-

Point taken. I have been out every day save one since you left,
practicing. Still setting with the reel, hard habit to bust, but I am
working on it

Setting with the reel????

I have a couple of pretty frustrating habits. One is spinning the
handle on the reel instead of jerking the pole to set hooks, of course
I lose a lot of fish that way. Sounds funny, but I have been working
on it almost every day for weeks now and it is a hard habit to break.
Another one is pointing the rod directly at the 3-4 pound bass right
before the captain gets to land it

See, I have never really been serious about my fishing even though I
go a lot. A slow troll with some headphones, something to relax with,
my dog, and a guitar at dusk is great fishing for me, if the kids are
swimming off the other side of the boat, that's even better. Other
than that, similar with live bait just drifting or anchored. This
whole, hold the pole, cast, reel, cast, reel, twitch, reel... don't
leave much time for daydreaming, looking at clouds, or mangeling
Dylan, Creedence, and Arlo. I have some buds that are more serious
fishermen, but they bring me along anyway. I add to the catch limit
of the boat so they can stay out longer So I guess it's a matter of
what you call fishing. I mean, if it requires work and catching fish,
yeah, I suck...

But anyway, I have decided after 45 years of silly fishing, it is time
to take it more seriously. I have the boat, equipment, desire, and
have found a few nice local spots. Still be days like today to just
float and play, but anytime you can get on the water with the family
is cool.

On Jul 20, 4:41 pm, "NOYB" wrote:
Use circle hooks, and you can continue to "set with the reel".


Humm. I used them last season for blackfishing and did well. I may try
it, but I am still going to work on my techniques. Went out yesterday
and actually angled for fish, instead of trolling or dropping live
bait on the bottom. Did not point one tip at any fish, still can't
stop setting with reel though.

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On Jul 20, 4:41 pm, "NOYB" wrote:
Use circle hooks, and you can continue to "set with the reel".


Humm. I used them last season for blackfishing and did well. I may try
it, but I am still going to work on my techniques. Went out yesterday
and actually angled for fish, instead of trolling or dropping live
bait on the bottom. Did not point one tip at any fish, still can't
stop setting with reel though.

I find that with circle hooks you are much less apt to gut hook the fish.
Usually catch them in the corner of their mouth. Easier to remove the hook
and much easier on the fish.

On Sat, 21 Jul 2007 17:42:58 -0400, "D.Duck" wrote:


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On Jul 20, 4:41 pm, "NOYB" wrote:
Use circle hooks, and you can continue to "set with the reel".


Humm. I used them last season for blackfishing and did well. I may try
it, but I am still going to work on my techniques. Went out yesterday
and actually angled for fish, instead of trolling or dropping live
bait on the bottom. Did not point one tip at any fish, still can't
stop setting with reel though.

I find that with circle hooks you are much less apt to gut hook the fish.
Usually catch them in the corner of their mouth. Easier to remove the hook
and much easier on the fish.

That's true in general, but...

I've seen circle hooks get caught in odd angles - they don't work all
the time exactly the way they are intended to work.

Depends on the bait used and how much.

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On Sat, 21 Jul 2007 17:42:58 -0400, "D.Duck" wrote:


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On Jul 20, 4:41 pm, "NOYB" wrote:
Use circle hooks, and you can continue to "set with the reel".


Humm. I used them last season for blackfishing and did well. I may try
it, but I am still going to work on my techniques. Went out yesterday
and actually angled for fish, instead of trolling or dropping live
bait on the bottom. Did not point one tip at any fish, still can't
stop setting with reel though.

I find that with circle hooks you are much less apt to gut hook the fish.
Usually catch them in the corner of their mouth. Easier to remove the
hook
and much easier on the fish.

That's true in general, but...

I've seen circle hooks get caught in odd angles - they don't work all
the time exactly the way they are intended to work.

Depends on the bait used and how much.

I agree, but I'm still convinced they're better than other designs.

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On Sat, 21 Jul 2007 17:42:58 -0400, "D.Duck" wrote:

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On Jul 20, 4:41 pm, "NOYB" wrote:
Use circle hooks, and you can continue to "set with the reel".

Humm. I used them last season for blackfishing and did well. I may try
it, but I am still going to work on my techniques. Went out yesterday
and actually angled for fish, instead of trolling or dropping live
bait on the bottom. Did not point one tip at any fish, still can't
stop setting with reel though.
I find that with circle hooks you are much less apt to gut hook the fish.
Usually catch them in the corner of their mouth. Easier to remove the
hook
and much easier on the fish.
That's true in general, but...

I've seen circle hooks get caught in odd angles - they don't work all
the time exactly the way they are intended to work.

Depends on the bait used and how much.

I agree, but I'm still convinced they're better than other designs.




I went out fishing for a few hours this afternoon after the north wind
here today died down. Used circle hooks. Brought no bait. Was asked how
I expected to catch fish without any bait. Said I didn't expect to.
Catching fish is not necessarily the most important aspect of "going
fishing."

Spent a bit of the time practicing casting with light egg sinkers and no
hooks at all.

On Sat, 21 Jul 2007 20:41:05 -0400, "D.Duck" wrote:

I find that with circle hooks you are much less apt to gut hook the fish.
Usually catch them in the corner of their mouth. Easier to remove the
hook
and much easier on the fish.

That's true in general, but...

I've seen circle hooks get caught in odd angles - they don't work all
the time exactly the way they are intended to work.

Depends on the bait used and how much.

I agree, but I'm still convinced they're better than other designs.

It all depends on the situation. I use circle hooks a lot when
drifting down on structure in salt water or trolling around for
walleye/lake trout - those types of fish.

For example, stripers - circle hooks have something of an advantage
because stripers are side strikers - they generally won't come at
their forage from the front/angle or rear - they almost always come at
the bait from the side which gives a circle hook an advantage.

Other fish, like large mouth, while still ambush predators, will take
forage food from an angle or from the rear which doesn't give an
advantage to circle hooks.

Size, both hook and fish, are also considerations. If you are hitting
on primarily school or second year class fish, circle hooks have no
significant advantage over others.

In JWAFM's case, circle hooks wouldn't be any advantage at all because
he tends not to use the rod for striking power. He also has a
tendency to point the rod at the fish which loosens the line and gives
the fish a change to disengage. He's not really setting with the reel
either - he's basically allowing the fish to hook it'self. He also
has a tendency to let the line slack on retrieve so he can't feel the
fish when it takes or hits - that's an issue of touch and experience.

I'll eventually break him of these habits - I have a cattle prod I can
use everytime he does it. :)

Or maybe a shock collar would be better....

Hmmmm - need to think on that.