Thought you would enjoy this...

http://www.suntimes.com/news/othervi...REF30b.article

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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Thought you would enjoy this...

http://www.suntimes.com/news/othervi...REF30b.article


Blasphemy.....

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
Thought you would enjoy this...

http://www.suntimes.com/news/othervi...REF30b.article

http://www.exxonsecrets.org/html/orgfactsheet.php?id=41

On Sun, 01 Jul 2007 06:23:46 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
Thought you would enjoy this...

http://www.suntimes.com/news/othervi...REF30b.article

http://www.exxonsecrets.org/html/orgfactsheet.php?id=41

The seven-point pledge announced by Al Gore to rally support against
global warming:

I pledge

1. To demand that my country join an international treaty within the
next two years that cuts global warming pollution by 90 percent in
developed countries and by more than half worldwide in time for the
next generation to inherit a healthy earth;

2. To take personal action to help solve the climate crises by
reducing my own C02 pollution as much as I can and offsetting the rest
to become ''carbon neutral'';

3. To fight for a moratorium on the construction of any new generating
facility that burns coal without the capacity to safely trap and store
the C02;

4. To work for a dramatic increase in the energy efficiency of my
home, workplace, school, place of worship, and means of
transportation;

5. To fight for laws and policies that expand the use of renewable
energy sources and reduce dependence on oil and coal;

6. To plant new trees and to join with others in preserving and
protecting forests; and,

7. To buy from businesses and support leaders who share my commitment
to solving the climate crises and building a sustainable, just and
prosperous world for the 21st century.

------------

All the pledge needs is little hearts and flowers and unicorns
decorating the edges.

The guy is a clown. And not a good clown - an evil clown.

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Sun, 01 Jul 2007 06:23:46 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
Thought you would enjoy this...

http://www.suntimes.com/news/othervi...REF30b.article
http://www.exxonsecrets.org/html/orgfactsheet.php?id=41

The seven-point pledge announced by Al Gore to rally support against
global warming:

I pledge

1. To demand that my country join an international treaty within the
next two years that cuts global warming pollution by 90 percent in
developed countries and by more than half worldwide in time for the
next generation to inherit a healthy earth;

2. To take personal action to help solve the climate crises by
reducing my own C02 pollution as much as I can and offsetting the rest
to become ''carbon neutral'';

3. To fight for a moratorium on the construction of any new generating
facility that burns coal without the capacity to safely trap and store
the C02;

4. To work for a dramatic increase in the energy efficiency of my
home, workplace, school, place of worship, and means of
transportation;

5. To fight for laws and policies that expand the use of renewable
energy sources and reduce dependence on oil and coal;

6. To plant new trees and to join with others in preserving and
protecting forests; and,

7. To buy from businesses and support leaders who share my commitment
to solving the climate crises and building a sustainable, just and
prosperous world for the 21st century.

------------

All the pledge needs is little hearts and flowers and unicorns
decorating the edges.

The guy is a clown. And not a good clown - an evil clown.

Since all of us, especially boaters and those who love and use our
environment, should be concerned about Global Warming, the last thing
we need to do is base our beliefs upon politicians and industry
spokesmen. Climatologist should be the best to judge the true long term
trends and should give them substantially more credence and value than
Alan Gore or Exxon's mouthpiece. Since this has a major impact on ours
and our children's lives, we should probably not be so quick to endorse
any viewpoint, just because it agrees with ours. The Catholic Church
and their stand against Galileo showed all of us how ridiculous one can
be when you close yourself to new concepts and scientific data. While
there are climatologist on both sides of this issue, does not mean we
should end the research. From strictly a selfish standpoint, we need to
find viable alternative energy sources so oil will not have the near
monopoly on energy for our boats. I am tired of spending $175 to fill
my boat gas tanks. Alternative energy could reduce our "carbon
footprint" and reduce the demand for oil, lowering the cost for those
applications where we still use oil.

On Jun 30, 6:05?pm, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
Thought you would enjoy this...

http://www.suntimes.com/news/othervi...REF30b.article

I have previously declined to get into a dueling website battle with
you.
There are thousands of sites on both sides of the issue.

Too bad that so many people can't see how selective reporting of
factoids constitutes a lie, even when those selective factoids are
individually true. Example: Your website crows that the Antarctic ice
cap isn't suffering much melt and in fact may have grown a smidge.
True. There's a very specific reason that your website doesn't meniton
the *arctic* ice cap, which is shrinking dramatically. Visualize a
globe or a map of the world. Basic geography question: Do most people
live in the Northern Hemisphere (closer to the Arctic ice cap) or
Southen Hemisphere (closer to the Antarctic ice cap)? Does the fact
that the Arctic ice cap is melting while the Antartic ice cap is not
support or challenge a theory that human activities may influence
global warming?

If you are really calling for people to consider all of the
"evidence", then excluding the situation at the Arctic ice cap is
hardly consistent. Nor is waving a highly selective series of websites
that agree with your personal guess or some talk show host's opinion.

Here's a thoughtful question for you to ponder. We know that the
American Association of Petroleum Geologists (the only scientific
association that disputes the very *existence* of global warming) has
an axe to grind. Reggie has illuminated the Exxon funding behind the
Heartland Group further down the thread. It's pretty obvious who's
paying for the *anti* opinions. So who's paying the scientists not
associated with the American Association of Petroleum Geologists?
Who's paying for the opinion items and highly selective research
summaries not published by Exxon's puppet group?

I could get into a dueling website battle with you, but what would be
the point? After we exchanged a couple of hundred websites, you'd
still be adamantly convinced that because Al Gore believes in global
warming it has to be BS, and I would still be concerned with the
physically measurable changes to the Arctic ice cap, glacial retreat,
and other
factors that are likely to contribute to a change in climate that
*could be* occuring faster than organisms will be able to adapt. (see
"dinosaurs".....those who refuse to learn from history are doomed to
repeat it). :-)

Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Sun, 01 Jul 2007 06:23:46 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
Thought you would enjoy this...

http://www.suntimes.com/news/othervi...REF30b.article
http://www.exxonsecrets.org/html/orgfactsheet.php?id=41

The seven-point pledge announced by Al Gore to rally support against
global warming:

I pledge

1. To demand that my country join an international treaty within the
next two years that cuts global warming pollution by 90 percent in
developed countries and by more than half worldwide in time for the
next generation to inherit a healthy earth;

2. To take personal action to help solve the climate crises by
reducing my own C02 pollution as much as I can and offsetting the rest
to become ''carbon neutral'';

3. To fight for a moratorium on the construction of any new generating
facility that burns coal without the capacity to safely trap and store
the C02;

4. To work for a dramatic increase in the energy efficiency of my
home, workplace, school, place of worship, and means of
transportation;

5. To fight for laws and policies that expand the use of renewable
energy sources and reduce dependence on oil and coal;

6. To plant new trees and to join with others in preserving and
protecting forests; and,

7. To buy from businesses and support leaders who share my commitment
to solving the climate crises and building a sustainable, just and
prosperous world for the 21st century.

------------

All the pledge needs is little hearts and flowers and unicorns
decorating the edges.

The guy is a clown. And not a good clown - an evil clown.

Since all of us, especially boaters and those who love and use our
environment, should be concerned about Global Warming, the last thing
we need to do is base our beliefs upon politicians and industry
spokesmen. Climatologist should be the best to judge the true long term
trends and should give them substantially more credence and value than
Alan Gore or Exxon's mouthpiece. Since this has a major impact on ours
and our children's lives, we should probably not be so quick to endorse
any viewpoint, just because it agrees with ours. The Catholic Church
and their stand against Galileo showed all of us how ridiculous one can
be when you close yourself to new concepts and scientific data. While
there are climatologist on both sides of this issue, does not mean we
should end the research. From strictly a selfish standpoint, we need to
find viable alternative energy sources so oil will not have the near
monopoly on energy for our boats. I am tired of spending $175 to fill
my boat gas tanks. Alternative energy could reduce our "carbon
footprint" and reduce the demand for oil, lowering the cost for those
applications where we still use oil.

The Supreme Court ruled that the EPA can regulate CO2 emissions. When
will your breathing be taxed or need to be made carbon neutral?

If you want your $175 gas purchase to be reduced you can support the
following:

1) Allow the building of new gasoline refineries in the US.

2) Allow the drilling for oil in ANWR.

3) Allow the drilling for oil on the California coast and the Florida
coast.

4) Allow for more drilling in the Gulf of Mexico.

5) Allow the building of new nuclear power plants.

6) Allow the wind energy farm of Cape Cod.

With the ever increasing population of the world the amount of CO2 put
into the atmosphere is increasing, again shouldn't people breathing be
regulated and taxed?

On Jul 1, 7:47?am, BAR wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:





Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Sun, 01 Jul 2007 06:23:46 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
Thought you would enjoy this...

http://www.suntimes.com/news/othervi...REF30b.article
http://www.exxonsecrets.org/html/orgfactsheet.php?id=41

The seven-point pledge announced by Al Gore to rally support against
global warming:

I pledge

1. To demand that my country join an international treaty within the
next two years that cuts global warming pollution by 90 percent in
developed countries and by more than half worldwide in time for the
next generation to inherit a healthy earth;

2. To take personal action to help solve the climate crises by
reducing my own C02 pollution as much as I can and offsetting the rest
to become ''carbon neutral'';

3. To fight for a moratorium on the construction of any new generating
facility that burns coal without the capacity to safely trap and store
the C02;

4. To work for a dramatic increase in the energy efficiency of my
home, workplace, school, place of worship, and means of
transportation;

5. To fight for laws and policies that expand the use of renewable
energy sources and reduce dependence on oil and coal;

6. To plant new trees and to join with others in preserving and
protecting forests; and,

7. To buy from businesses and support leaders who share my commitment
to solving the climate crises and building a sustainable, just and
prosperous world for the 21st century.

------------

All the pledge needs is little hearts and flowers and unicorns
decorating the edges.

The guy is a clown. And not a good clown - an evil clown.

Since all of us, especially boaters and those who love and use our
environment, should be concerned about Global Warming, the last thing
we need to do is base our beliefs upon politicians and industry
spokesmen. Climatologist should be the best to judge the true long term
trends and should give them substantially more credence and value than
Alan Gore or Exxon's mouthpiece. Since this has a major impact on ours
and our children's lives, we should probably not be so quick to endorse
any viewpoint, just because it agrees with ours. The Catholic Church
and their stand against Galileo showed all of us how ridiculous one can
be when you close yourself to new concepts and scientific data. While
there are climatologist on both sides of this issue, does not mean we
should end the research. From strictly a selfish standpoint, we need to
find viable alternative energy sources so oil will not have the near
monopoly on energy for our boats. I am tired of spending $175 to fill
my boat gas tanks. Alternative energy could reduce our "carbon
footprint" and reduce the demand for oil, lowering the cost for those
applications where we still use oil.

The Supreme Court ruled that the EPA can regulate CO2 emissions. When
will your breathing be taxed or need to be made carbon neutral?

If you want your $175 gas purchase to be reduced you can support the
following:

1) Allow the building of new gasoline refineries in the US.

Nothing prevents the oil companies from siting refineries. Did you
know that in something like the last 20 years there hasn't been a
single oil refienry permit denied in the US? Of course the reason
*why* has to do as much with the fact that BIGOIL's agenda has been
more effectively served by closing refineries than by opening new
ones. The oil companies have not applied for permits.

A US Senator reports on an investigation into the closing of
refinereies in the US. BIGOIL has been deliberately trying to "improve
refinery margins" by "reducing excess refinery capacity" since the mid
1990's.

http://wyden.senate.gov/leg_issues/r...oil_report.pdf

(Now of course this is the point where half the folks reading this
thread will scream....."but he belongs to this political party, or
that political party, and as a result we can't believe him if he says
that Monday follows Sunday!")






2) Allow the drilling for oil in ANWR.

3) Allow the drilling for oil on the California coast and the Florida
coast.

4) Allow for more drilling in the Gulf of Mexico.

5) Allow the building of new nuclear power plants.

6) Allow the wind energy farm of Cape Cod.


You believe that the oil companies would reduce the cost of refined
products if we increased the pace at which we deplete the world's
crude oil reserves? How generous of them all. Their boards of
directors and stockholders will all be very pleased, I'm sure. :-)