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Steve Barker wrote:

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the 429/460 has valve covers about twice as wide as these and more than 4
bolts in them. These valve covers are small block chevy.


Sure looks that way.

Did Grey Marine ever use Chevrolet heads on a proprietary block? This
would be the only way to get the distributor drive gear into the front of
the engine as I see it.

That distributor is right where they are on the FE blocks. I can't think
of any common wide block that shares bore spacing &/or bolt patterns with
the SBC.

Anyone?

Rob


Looks like a smallblock chevy that is installed with the front of the engine
facing to the rear of the boat. The water pump and belts look like they are
mounted on the back of the engine and the drive shaft would be connected to
the front of the engine.

Frank from Deeetroit wrote:

Looks like a smallblock chevy that is installed with the front of the engine
facing to the rear of the boat. The water pump and belts look like they are
mounted on the back of the engine and the drive shaft would be connected to
the front of the engine.

That's what I was thinking. a'la Chris craft.

"Tim" wrote in message
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Frank from Deeetroit wrote:

Looks like a smallblock chevy that is installed with the front of the
engine
facing to the rear of the boat. The water pump and belts look like they
are
mounted on the back of the engine and the drive shaft would be connected
to
the front of the engine.

That's what I was thinking. a'la Chris craft.


Imagine changing the timing chain on that mess.

On Jun 16, 7:33 am, Tim wrote:
Frank from Deeetroit wrote:

Looks like a smallblock chevy that is installed with the front of the engine
facing to the rear of the boat. The water pump and belts look like they are
mounted on the back of the engine and the drive shaft would be connected to
the front of the engine.

That's what I was thinking. a'la Chris craft.

Chris' Dad here. Mr. Slikk was with Chris Craft before he started his
own brand, SlickCraft. Makes sense that he would use the same engine
layout and maybe the same supplier of engines. Here are more
pictures. The two engines look identical, but the chrome valve covers
and automatic choke indicate a later rebuild in San Diego, at
Aquamarine. The casting numbers on the block say GM and the numbers
indicate either a 327 cid or 350 cid. The 4bbl. carb is on both
engines, as are Mallory distributor, cap, coil. The belt drives in
"front" turn in opposite directions on the two engines. The two props
and shafts are direct and have no U-joints. So the mounts cant the
engine to the rear in line with the prop shafts. The valve covers
have four bolts. We have removed and reamed out the two exhaust
crossovers, which were indeed cruddy inside. The carb air cleaners
are the flame-arrestor type required on boats. This engine turns over
slowly when starting. The other starts right up on the same four
batteries.

Question: Where's the flywheel, and where's #1 cylinder? The rebuilt
engine has #1 marked on the distributor cap at the sp wire going to
right rear cylinder. If i have reverse rotation, will the #1 cylinder
be in front? Will the firing order be the same on both engines? The
rotors turn in the same direction, clockwise, on both.

Thanks a lot for your information!
RevDave

Today i take out the two-year-old gasoline and put fresh gas in.
Should help us.
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http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b7...c/IMG_0180.jpg
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b7...c/IMG_0178.jpg
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b7...c/IMG_0177.jpg

Apparently photobucket makes the files smaller. I took them in a
large format. The only thing I can tell you is to open them in your
computer's default image viewer program, and just enlarge it from
there.

wrote:
On Jun 16, 7:33 am, Tim wrote:
Frank from Deeetroit wrote:

Looks like a smallblock chevy that is installed with the front of the engine
facing to the rear of the boat. The water pump and belts look like they are
mounted on the back of the engine and the drive shaft would be connected to
the front of the engine.
That's what I was thinking. a'la Chris craft.

Chris' Dad here. Mr. Slikk was with Chris Craft before he started his
own brand, SlickCraft. Makes sense that he would use the same engine
layout and maybe the same supplier of engines. Here are more
pictures. The two engines look identical, but the chrome valve covers
and automatic choke indicate a later rebuild in San Diego, at
Aquamarine. The casting numbers on the block say GM and the numbers
indicate either a 327 cid or 350 cid. The 4bbl. carb is on both
engines, as are Mallory distributor, cap, coil. The belt drives in
"front" turn in opposite directions on the two engines.

They should.


The two props
and shafts are direct and have no U-joints. So the mounts cant the
engine to the rear in line with the prop shafts. The valve covers
have four bolts. We have removed and reamed out the two exhaust
crossovers, which were indeed cruddy inside. The carb air cleaners
are the flame-arrestor type required on boats. This engine turns over
slowly when starting. The other starts right up on the same four
batteries.

Question: Where's the flywheel, and where's #1 cylinder?

Chevy 350's they are then.

The flywheel is at the distributor end of both engines. Cyl #1 is the
right rear of the flywheel-fore engine, & left front of the flywheel-aft
engine.


The rebuilt
engine has #1 marked on the distributor cap at the sp wire going to
right rear cylinder. If i have reverse rotation, will the #1 cylinder
be in front? Will the firing order be the same on both engines? The
rotors turn in the same direction, clockwise, on both.

If one engine is turned around, both engines will be the same rotation.

The firing order, which should be cast into the intake manifolds, for
the chevy small block V8 is 1-8-4-3-6-5-7-2.

Rob




Thanks a lot for your information!
RevDave

Today i take out the two-year-old gasoline and put fresh gas in.
Should help us.
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b7...c/IMG_0181.jpg
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b7...c/IMG_0180.jpg
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b7...c/IMG_0178.jpg
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b7...c/IMG_0177.jpg

Apparently photobucket makes the files smaller. I took them in a
large format. The only thing I can tell you is to open them in your
computer's default image viewer program, and just enlarge it from
there.

Frank from Deeetroit wrote:
"trainfan1" wrote in message
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Steve Barker wrote:

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b7...c/IMG_0174.jpg
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b7...c/IMG_0175.jpg


the 429/460 has valve covers about twice as wide as these and more than 4
bolts in them. These valve covers are small block chevy.

Sure looks that way.

Did Grey Marine ever use Chevrolet heads on a proprietary block? This
would be the only way to get the distributor drive gear into the front of
the engine as I see it.

That distributor is right where they are on the FE blocks. I can't think
of any common wide block that shares bore spacing &/or bolt patterns with
the SBC.

Anyone?

Rob


Looks like a smallblock chevy that is installed with the front of the engine
facing to the rear of the boat. The water pump and belts look like they are
mounted on the back of the engine and the drive shaft would be connected to
the front of the engine.


Aaaahhhhh, for reverse rotation.

Tom Adkins wrote:
Frank from Deeetroit wrote:
"trainfan1" wrote in message
news
Steve Barker wrote:

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b7...c/IMG_0174.jpg
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b7...c/IMG_0175.jpg


the 429/460 has valve covers about twice as wide as these and more
than 4 bolts in them. These valve covers are small block chevy.

Sure looks that way.

Did Grey Marine ever use Chevrolet heads on a proprietary block?
This would be the only way to get the distributor drive gear into the
front of the engine as I see it.

That distributor is right where they are on the FE blocks. I can't
think of any common wide block that shares bore spacing &/or bolt
patterns with the SBC.

Anyone?

Rob


Looks like a smallblock chevy that is installed with the front of the
engine facing to the rear of the boat. The water pump and belts look
like they are mounted on the back of the engine and the drive shaft
would be connected to the front of the engine.

Aaaahhhhh, for reverse rotation.

The hard way.

It's easier actually to run the engine backwards.

But this is a good explanation, except again the pics are too small to
see if that is a timing cover or a bell housing(starter & all on
flywheel) behind the water pump.

Rob

On Jun 16, 12:27 pm, trainfan1 wrote:
Tom Adkins wrote:
Frank from Deeetroit wrote:
"trainfan1" wrote in message
news Steve Barker wrote:

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b7...c/IMG_0174.jpg
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b7...c/IMG_0175.jpg

the 429/460 has valve covers about twice as wide as these and more
than 4 bolts in them. These valve covers are small block chevy.

Sure looks that way.

Did Grey Marine ever use Chevrolet heads on a proprietary block?
This would be the only way to get the distributor drive gear into the
front of the engine as I see it.

That distributor is right where they are on the FE blocks. I can't
think of any common wide block that shares bore spacing &/or bolt
patterns with the SBC.

Anyone?

Rob

Looks like a smallblock chevy that is installed with the front of the
engine facing to the rear of the boat. The water pump and belts look
like they are mounted on the back of the engine and the drive shaft
would be connected to the front of the engine.

Aaaahhhhh, for reverse rotation.

The hard way.

It's easier actually to run the engine backwards.

But this is a good explanation, except again the pics are too small to
see if that is a timing cover or a bell housing(starter & all on
flywheel) behind the water pump.

Rob- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -



Well, not really. The reason Chris Craft ddid that was to have the
flywheel to the front of the boat, so they could get a lower profile,
and clearence for the angle of the engine, seeing it was hooked
directly to the trans, and the prop shaft were all in line with no u-
joints or carrier berings. Or, thats the way it was described to me.

Tim wrote:
On Jun 16, 12:27 pm, trainfan1 wrote:
Tom Adkins wrote:
Frank from Deeetroit wrote:
"trainfan1" wrote in message
news Steve Barker wrote:
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b7...c/IMG_0174.jpg
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b7...c/IMG_0175.jpg
the 429/460 has valve covers about twice as wide as these and more
than 4 bolts in them. These valve covers are small block chevy.
Sure looks that way.
Did Grey Marine ever use Chevrolet heads on a proprietary block?
This would be the only way to get the distributor drive gear into the
front of the engine as I see it.
That distributor is right where they are on the FE blocks. I can't
think of any common wide block that shares bore spacing &/or bolt
patterns with the SBC.
Anyone?
Rob
Looks like a smallblock chevy that is installed with the front of the
engine facing to the rear of the boat. The water pump and belts look
like they are mounted on the back of the engine and the drive shaft
would be connected to the front of the engine.
Aaaahhhhh, for reverse rotation.
The hard way.

It's easier actually to run the engine backwards.

But this is a good explanation, except again the pics are too small to
see if that is a timing cover or a bell housing(starter & all on
flywheel) behind the water pump.

Rob- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -



Well, not really. The reason Chris Craft did that was to have the
flywheel to the front of the boat, so they could get a lower profile,
and clearence for the angle of the engine, seeing it was hooked
directly to the trans, and the prop shaft were all in line with no u-
joints or carrier bearings. Or, thats the way it was described to me.

For most newer boats that in line set up is not important. Most
everyone now days uses u-joints and a drive shaft. There is an optimum
u-joint angle for set up but I've forgotten what it is.

Its good to have the support of rear main bearings if you have a drive
shaft hooked up that leads to a jet pump or V-drive. Circle racers
often would set up to run off the snout because the prop rotation tends
to keep the boat from lifting and sliding in the turns. Many turned to
getting the engine to run in the opposite direction because of the
weakness of the front main bearing but one has to be careful to get the
crank oil holes re-drilled because running backwards with a standard
crank the centrifugal force will tend to impair oil pressure at high
rpm's causing high dollar engines to go bye bye.

F.H. wrote:
Tim wrote:
On Jun 16, 12:27 pm, trainfan1 wrote:
Tom Adkins wrote:
Frank from Deeetroit wrote:
"trainfan1" wrote in message
news Steve Barker wrote:
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b7...c/IMG_0174.jpg
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b7...c/IMG_0175.jpg
the 429/460 has valve covers about twice as wide as these and more
than 4 bolts in them. These valve covers are small block chevy.
Sure looks that way.
Did Grey Marine ever use Chevrolet heads on a proprietary block?
This would be the only way to get the distributor drive gear into the
front of the engine as I see it.
That distributor is right where they are on the FE blocks. I can't
think of any common wide block that shares bore spacing &/or bolt
patterns with the SBC.
Anyone?
Rob
Looks like a smallblock chevy that is installed with the front of the
engine facing to the rear of the boat. The water pump and belts look
like they are mounted on the back of the engine and the drive shaft
would be connected to the front of the engine.
Aaaahhhhh, for reverse rotation.
The hard way.

It's easier actually to run the engine backwards.

But this is a good explanation, except again the pics are too small to
see if that is a timing cover or a bell housing(starter & all on
flywheel) behind the water pump.

Rob- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -



Well, not really. The reason Chris Craft did that was to have the
flywheel to the front of the boat, so they could get a lower profile,
and clearence for the angle of the engine, seeing it was hooked
directly to the trans, and the prop shaft were all in line with no u-
joints or carrier bearings. Or, thats the way it was described to me.

For most newer boats that in line set up is not important. Most
everyone now days uses u-joints and a drive shaft.

What size boat are you talking about?

All the Tournament, Tournament style, & Wakeboard inboards, direct &
V-drive, have no u-joints.

Rob


There is an optimum
u-joint angle for set up but I've forgotten what it is.

Its good to have the support of rear main bearings if you have a drive
shaft hooked up that leads to a jet pump or V-drive. Circle racers
often would set up to run off the snout because the prop rotation tends
to keep the boat from lifting and sliding in the turns. Many turned to
getting the engine to run in the opposite direction because of the
weakness of the front main bearing but one has to be careful to get the
crank oil holes re-drilled because running backwards with a standard
crank the centrifugal force will tend to impair oil pressure at high
rpm's causing high dollar engines to go bye bye.