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HK May 30th 07 11:36 AM

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GALLUP NEWS SERVICE

PRINCETON, NJ -- The latest Gallup panel survey finds the public bracing
for continued rising gas prices this summer. A majority of poll
respondents expect gas prices to reach the $4.00 per gallon level in
their local area this summer, though only a small minority expects it to
reach the $5.00 mark. Roughly two in three Americans say they have
already been affected financially in some meaningful way by the high gas
prices. The public most often mentions oil company greed as the reason
for the high gas prices, though it also mentions other more practical
reasons such as problems with refineries.

JoeSpareBedroom May 30th 07 12:43 PM

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"HK" wrote in message
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GALLUP NEWS SERVICE

PRINCETON, NJ -- The latest Gallup panel survey finds the public bracing
for continued rising gas prices this summer. A majority of poll
respondents expect gas prices to reach the $4.00 per gallon level in their
local area this summer, though only a small minority expects it to reach
the $5.00 mark. Roughly two in three Americans say they have already been
affected financially in some meaningful way by the high gas prices. The
public most often mentions oil company greed as the reason for the high
gas prices, though it also mentions other more practical reasons such as
problems with refineries.



They'll mention whatever the talking heads tell them to mention as reasons.
Remember "increased demand in China"? That's the reason I heard for the
latest run-up. Same thing last year. But, when the price dropped last year,
nobody said "decreased demand in China". I don't listen any more. The only
info I'd believe would come from Rex Tillerson, who was being waterboarded
in return for real details about the pricing scheme. All other explanations
thus far are an insult to our intelligence.



HK May 30th 07 01:03 PM

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JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
. ..
GALLUP NEWS SERVICE

PRINCETON, NJ -- The latest Gallup panel survey finds the public bracing
for continued rising gas prices this summer. A majority of poll
respondents expect gas prices to reach the $4.00 per gallon level in their
local area this summer, though only a small minority expects it to reach
the $5.00 mark. Roughly two in three Americans say they have already been
affected financially in some meaningful way by the high gas prices. The
public most often mentions oil company greed as the reason for the high
gas prices, though it also mentions other more practical reasons such as
problems with refineries.



They'll mention whatever the talking heads tell them to mention as reasons.
Remember "increased demand in China"? That's the reason I heard for the
latest run-up. Same thing last year. But, when the price dropped last year,
nobody said "decreased demand in China". I don't listen any more. The only
info I'd believe would come from Rex Tillerson, who was being waterboarded
in return for real details about the pricing scheme. All other explanations
thus far are an insult to our intelligence.




The "problems with refineries" reason is a tad too predictable. There's
no reason to doubt "refinery" and big oil greed, though.

JoeSpareBedroom May 30th 07 01:07 PM

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"HK" wrote in message
. ..
JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
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GALLUP NEWS SERVICE

PRINCETON, NJ -- The latest Gallup panel survey finds the public bracing
for continued rising gas prices this summer. A majority of poll
respondents expect gas prices to reach the $4.00 per gallon level in
their local area this summer, though only a small minority expects it to
reach the $5.00 mark. Roughly two in three Americans say they have
already been affected financially in some meaningful way by the high gas
prices. The public most often mentions oil company greed as the reason
for the high gas prices, though it also mentions other more practical
reasons such as problems with refineries.



They'll mention whatever the talking heads tell them to mention as
reasons. Remember "increased demand in China"? That's the reason I heard
for the latest run-up. Same thing last year. But, when the price dropped
last year, nobody said "decreased demand in China". I don't listen any
more. The only info I'd believe would come from Rex Tillerson, who was
being waterboarded in return for real details about the pricing scheme.
All other explanations thus far are an insult to our intelligence.



The "problems with refineries" reason is a tad too predictable. There's no
reason to doubt "refinery" and big oil greed, though.



Eisboch will happen along shortly to give us the truth. :-)



Eisboch May 30th 07 01:20 PM

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"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
...
"HK" wrote in message
. ..
JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
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GALLUP NEWS SERVICE

PRINCETON, NJ -- The latest Gallup panel survey finds the public
bracing for continued rising gas prices this summer. A majority of poll
respondents expect gas prices to reach the $4.00 per gallon level in
their local area this summer, though only a small minority expects it
to reach the $5.00 mark. Roughly two in three Americans say they have
already been affected financially in some meaningful way by the high
gas prices. The public most often mentions oil company greed as the
reason for the high gas prices, though it also mentions other more
practical reasons such as problems with refineries.


They'll mention whatever the talking heads tell them to mention as
reasons. Remember "increased demand in China"? That's the reason I heard
for the latest run-up. Same thing last year. But, when the price dropped
last year, nobody said "decreased demand in China". I don't listen any
more. The only info I'd believe would come from Rex Tillerson, who was
being waterboarded in return for real details about the pricing scheme.
All other explanations thus far are an insult to our intelligence.



The "problems with refineries" reason is a tad too predictable. There's
no reason to doubt "refinery" and big oil greed, though.



Eisboch will happen along shortly to give us the truth. :-)


Naw. You can't handle "the truth".
Here's a suggestion though ...

http://education.yahoo.net/degrees/a...nd_salary.html

Eisboch



JoeSpareBedroom May 30th 07 01:31 PM

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"Eisboch" wrote in message
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"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
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"HK" wrote in message
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JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
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GALLUP NEWS SERVICE

PRINCETON, NJ -- The latest Gallup panel survey finds the public
bracing for continued rising gas prices this summer. A majority of
poll respondents expect gas prices to reach the $4.00 per gallon level
in their local area this summer, though only a small minority expects
it to reach the $5.00 mark. Roughly two in three Americans say they
have already been affected financially in some meaningful way by the
high gas prices. The public most often mentions oil company greed as
the reason for the high gas prices, though it also mentions other more
practical reasons such as problems with refineries.


They'll mention whatever the talking heads tell them to mention as
reasons. Remember "increased demand in China"? That's the reason I
heard for the latest run-up. Same thing last year. But, when the price
dropped last year, nobody said "decreased demand in China". I don't
listen any more. The only info I'd believe would come from Rex
Tillerson, who was being waterboarded in return for real details about
the pricing scheme. All other explanations thus far are an insult to
our intelligence.


The "problems with refineries" reason is a tad too predictable. There's
no reason to doubt "refinery" and big oil greed, though.



Eisboch will happen along shortly to give us the truth. :-)


Naw. You can't handle "the truth".
Here's a suggestion though ...

http://education.yahoo.net/degrees/a...nd_salary.html



I don't see "waterboard technician" there. What a useless article.



Jim May 30th 07 01:54 PM

Bend Over for 'Big' Oil
 

"HK" wrote in message
. ..
JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
. ..
GALLUP NEWS SERVICE

PRINCETON, NJ -- The latest Gallup panel survey finds the public bracing
for continued rising gas prices this summer. A majority of poll
respondents expect gas prices to reach the $4.00 per gallon level in
their local area this summer, though only a small minority expects it to
reach the $5.00 mark. Roughly two in three Americans say they have
already been affected financially in some meaningful way by the high gas
prices. The public most often mentions oil company greed as the reason
for the high gas prices, though it also mentions other more practical
reasons such as problems with refineries.



They'll mention whatever the talking heads tell them to mention as
reasons. Remember "increased demand in China"? That's the reason I heard
for the latest run-up. Same thing last year. But, when the price dropped
last year, nobody said "decreased demand in China". I don't listen any
more. The only info I'd believe would come from Rex Tillerson, who was
being waterboarded in return for real details about the pricing scheme.
All other explanations thus far are an insult to our intelligence.



The "problems with refineries" reason is a tad too predictable. There's no
reason to doubt "refinery" and big oil greed, though.


It's pretty hard to ignore big oil's announcement of record profits every
quarter. Maybe it's time to sell the boat and buy Exxon Mobil stock.
Jim



JoeSpareBedroom May 30th 07 02:49 PM

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"Fred Garvin, Male Prostitute" wrote in message
...
In message , HK sprach
forth the following:

GALLUP NEWS SERVICE

PRINCETON, NJ -- The latest Gallup panel survey finds the public bracing
for continued rising gas prices this summer. A majority of poll
respondents expect gas prices to reach the $4.00 per gallon level in
their local area this summer, though only a small minority expects it to
reach the $5.00 mark. Roughly two in three Americans say they have
already been affected financially in some meaningful way by the high gas
prices. The public most often mentions oil company greed as the reason
for the high gas prices, though it also mentions other more practical
reasons such as problems with refineries.


Two questions:

1. If it's "oil company greed", why wasn't gas $5 after Katrina?

2. Are you proud that public opinion is being shaped using the same
media techniques ESPN has uses to demonize Barry Bonds?



Different sort of question:

Would you agree that the 3 entities below have created public impressions
that are hard to change?

1) Wal Mart
2) Used car dealers
3) Law firms



JoeSpareBedroom May 30th 07 03:05 PM

Bend Over for 'Big' Oil
 
"John H." wrote in message
...
On Wed, 30 May 2007 11:43:26 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"HK" wrote in message
m...
GALLUP NEWS SERVICE

PRINCETON, NJ -- The latest Gallup panel survey finds the public bracing
for continued rising gas prices this summer. A majority of poll
respondents expect gas prices to reach the $4.00 per gallon level in
their
local area this summer, though only a small minority expects it to reach
the $5.00 mark. Roughly two in three Americans say they have already
been
affected financially in some meaningful way by the high gas prices. The
public most often mentions oil company greed as the reason for the high
gas prices, though it also mentions other more practical reasons such as
problems with refineries.



They'll mention whatever the talking heads tell them to mention as
reasons.
Remember "increased demand in China"? That's the reason I heard for the
latest run-up. Same thing last year. But, when the price dropped last
year,
nobody said "decreased demand in China". I don't listen any more. The only
info I'd believe would come from Rex Tillerson, who was being waterboarded
in return for real details about the pricing scheme. All other
explanations
thus far are an insult to our intelligence.


Explanation - long term maximization of profit. Salvation Army does
charity
work.



You go to the supermarket and find that a gallon of milk is suddenly $4.00.
Last week, it was $2.00. You ask for an explanation and are told "It's due
to increased demand at our store across town".

How would you feel about that answer?



JoeSpareBedroom May 30th 07 03:08 PM

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"Fred Garvin, Male Prostitute" wrote in message
...
In message , Gene Kearns
sprach forth the following:


1. If it's "oil company greed", why wasn't gas $5 after Katrina?

It was.
http://money.cnn.com/2005/09/01/mark...ices/index.htm


"Nationwide, the national self-serve unleaded average was $2.68 a gallon"

Do you even read the **** you post, ****brain?



The article said gas was $5 in some areas. True, or false?



JoeSpareBedroom May 30th 07 03:09 PM

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"Fred Garvin, Male Prostitute" wrote in message
...
In message , JoeSpareBedroom sprach
forth the following:

"Fred Garvin, Male Prostitute" wrote in message
...
In message , HK sprach
forth the following:

GALLUP NEWS SERVICE

PRINCETON, NJ -- The latest Gallup panel survey finds the public

bracing
for continued rising gas prices this summer. A majority of poll
respondents expect gas prices to reach the $4.00 per gallon level in
their local area this summer, though only a small minority expects it

to
reach the $5.00 mark. Roughly two in three Americans say they have
already been affected financially in some meaningful way by the high

gas
prices. The public most often mentions oil company greed as the reason
for the high gas prices, though it also mentions other more practical
reasons such as problems with refineries.

Two questions:

1. If it's "oil company greed", why wasn't gas $5 after Katrina?

2. Are you proud that public opinion is being shaped using the same
media techniques ESPN has uses to demonize Barry Bonds?



Different sort of question:


1. If it's "oil company greed", why wasn't gas $5 after Katrina?


Gene already taught you that it was $5 in some areas.


2. Are you proud that public opinion is being shaped using the same
media techniques ESPN has uses to demonize Barry Bonds?



Tell me your definition of "media" first. A spokesperson who is paid a
salary by Exxon - is he "media"?



HK May 30th 07 03:13 PM

Bend Over for 'Big' Oil
 
JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"Fred Garvin, Male Prostitute" wrote in message
...
In message , HK sprach
forth the following:

GALLUP NEWS SERVICE

PRINCETON, NJ -- The latest Gallup panel survey finds the public bracing
for continued rising gas prices this summer. A majority of poll
respondents expect gas prices to reach the $4.00 per gallon level in
their local area this summer, though only a small minority expects it to
reach the $5.00 mark. Roughly two in three Americans say they have
already been affected financially in some meaningful way by the high gas
prices. The public most often mentions oil company greed as the reason
for the high gas prices, though it also mentions other more practical
reasons such as problems with refineries.

Two questions:

1. If it's "oil company greed", why wasn't gas $5 after Katrina?

2. Are you proud that public opinion is being shaped using the same
media techniques ESPN has uses to demonize Barry Bonds?



Different sort of question:

Would you agree that the 3 entities below have created public impressions
that are hard to change?

1) Wal Mart
2) Used car dealers
3) Law firms




Earned, rather than created.

HK May 30th 07 03:24 PM

Bend Over for 'Big' Oil
 
Jim wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
. ..
JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
. ..
GALLUP NEWS SERVICE

PRINCETON, NJ -- The latest Gallup panel survey finds the public bracing
for continued rising gas prices this summer. A majority of poll
respondents expect gas prices to reach the $4.00 per gallon level in
their local area this summer, though only a small minority expects it to
reach the $5.00 mark. Roughly two in three Americans say they have
already been affected financially in some meaningful way by the high gas
prices. The public most often mentions oil company greed as the reason
for the high gas prices, though it also mentions other more practical
reasons such as problems with refineries.

They'll mention whatever the talking heads tell them to mention as
reasons. Remember "increased demand in China"? That's the reason I heard
for the latest run-up. Same thing last year. But, when the price dropped
last year, nobody said "decreased demand in China". I don't listen any
more. The only info I'd believe would come from Rex Tillerson, who was
being waterboarded in return for real details about the pricing scheme.
All other explanations thus far are an insult to our intelligence.


The "problems with refineries" reason is a tad too predictable. There's no
reason to doubt "refinery" and big oil greed, though.


It's pretty hard to ignore big oil's announcement of record profits every
quarter. Maybe it's time to sell the boat and buy Exxon Mobil stock.
Jim




Maybe it is time to elect a president who gives a damn about those with
middle or lower class incomes. We've had six and a half years of
corporate payoff in the White House. It's time to make sure the public's
interest is represented in such key, high-cost to the public industries
as oil and health care.

JoeSpareBedroom May 30th 07 03:24 PM

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"Fred Garvin, Male Prostitute" wrote in message
...
In message , JoeSpareBedroom sprach
forth the following:

Would you agree that the 3 entities below have created public impressions
that are hard to change?

1) Wal Mart
2) Used car dealers
3) Law firms


Wal Mart has more customers than any business in the world.

Used car dealers don't make any money unless they attract customers
either.

Lawyers are the primary contributors to Democrats.



You're not much of a dancer.



HK May 30th 07 03:40 PM

Bend Over for 'Big' Oil
 
JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"Fred Garvin, Male Prostitute" wrote in message
...
In message , JoeSpareBedroom sprach
forth the following:

Would you agree that the 3 entities below have created public impressions
that are hard to change?

1) Wal Mart
2) Used car dealers
3) Law firms

Wal Mart has more customers than any business in the world.

Used car dealers don't make any money unless they attract customers
either.

Lawyers are the primary contributors to Democrats.



You're not much of a dancer.




He apparently has four right feet, which is why he lives in my bozo bin,
along with the rest of the intellectually challenged.

John H. May 30th 07 04:04 PM

Bend Over for 'Big' Oil
 
On Wed, 30 May 2007 11:43:26 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"HK" wrote in message
...
GALLUP NEWS SERVICE

PRINCETON, NJ -- The latest Gallup panel survey finds the public bracing
for continued rising gas prices this summer. A majority of poll
respondents expect gas prices to reach the $4.00 per gallon level in their
local area this summer, though only a small minority expects it to reach
the $5.00 mark. Roughly two in three Americans say they have already been
affected financially in some meaningful way by the high gas prices. The
public most often mentions oil company greed as the reason for the high
gas prices, though it also mentions other more practical reasons such as
problems with refineries.



They'll mention whatever the talking heads tell them to mention as reasons.
Remember "increased demand in China"? That's the reason I heard for the
latest run-up. Same thing last year. But, when the price dropped last year,
nobody said "decreased demand in China". I don't listen any more. The only
info I'd believe would come from Rex Tillerson, who was being waterboarded
in return for real details about the pricing scheme. All other explanations
thus far are an insult to our intelligence.


Explanation - long term maximization of profit. Salvation Army does charity
work.

Short Wave Sportfishing May 30th 07 04:34 PM

Bend Over for 'Big' Oil
 
On 30 May 2007 13:31:42 GMT, "Fred Garvin, Male Prostitute"
wrote:

2. Are you proud that public opinion is being shaped using the same
media techniques ESPN has uses to demonize Barry Bonds?


Barry Bonds deserves demonization.

Not enough bad things can happen to Barry Bonds.

JoeSpareBedroom May 30th 07 05:27 PM

Bend Over for 'Big' Oil
 
"John H." wrote in message
...
On Wed, 30 May 2007 14:05:21 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"John H." wrote in message
. ..
On Wed, 30 May 2007 11:43:26 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"HK" wrote in message
news:69WdnVrWZpgwzsDbnZ2dnUVZ_vzinZ2d@comcast. com...
GALLUP NEWS SERVICE

PRINCETON, NJ -- The latest Gallup panel survey finds the public
bracing
for continued rising gas prices this summer. A majority of poll
respondents expect gas prices to reach the $4.00 per gallon level in
their
local area this summer, though only a small minority expects it to
reach
the $5.00 mark. Roughly two in three Americans say they have already
been
affected financially in some meaningful way by the high gas prices.
The
public most often mentions oil company greed as the reason for the
high
gas prices, though it also mentions other more practical reasons such
as
problems with refineries.


They'll mention whatever the talking heads tell them to mention as
reasons.
Remember "increased demand in China"? That's the reason I heard for the
latest run-up. Same thing last year. But, when the price dropped last
year,
nobody said "decreased demand in China". I don't listen any more. The
only
info I'd believe would come from Rex Tillerson, who was being
waterboarded
in return for real details about the pricing scheme. All other
explanations
thus far are an insult to our intelligence.


Explanation - long term maximization of profit. Salvation Army does
charity
work.



You go to the supermarket and find that a gallon of milk is suddenly
$4.00.
Last week, it was $2.00. You ask for an explanation and are told "It's due
to increased demand at our store across town".

How would you feel about that answer?


I'd feel like we should elect a president who cares about the poor and the
middle class and would do something to hold down milk prices. Maybe he
could raise cows - unionized, of course.


Bull**** answer, as usual. Sesame Street over yet?



JoeSpareBedroom May 30th 07 05:38 PM

Bend Over for 'Big' Oil
 
"Fred Garvin, Male Prostitute" wrote in message
...
In message , JoeSpareBedroom sprach
forth the following:

"Fred Garvin, Male Prostitute" wrote in message
...
In message , JoeSpareBedroom
sprach forth the following:

Would you agree that the 3 entities below have created public
impressions that are hard to change?

1) Wal Mart
2) Used car dealers
3) Law firms

Wal Mart has more customers than any business in the world.

Used car dealers don't make any money unless they attract customers
either.

Lawyers are the primary contributors to Democrats.



You're not much of a dancer.


No, I demonstrated that you have contempt for success and supplication for
the John Edwardses of the world.


You demonstrated that once again, you've danced around someone's question
because to answer it honestly, you'd step in quicksand.

Do you ever NOT have a bad day?



JoeSpareBedroom May 30th 07 05:47 PM

Bend Over for 'Big' Oil
 
"Fred Garvin, Male Prostitute" wrote in message
...
In message , JoeSpareBedroom sprach
forth the following:

"Fred Garvin, Male Prostitute" wrote in message
...
In message , JoeSpareBedroom
sprach forth the following:

"Fred Garvin, Male Prostitute" wrote in
message ...
In message , JoeSpareBedroom
sprach forth the following:

Would you agree that the 3 entities below have created public
impressions that are hard to change?

1) Wal Mart
2) Used car dealers
3) Law firms

Wal Mart has more customers than any business in the world.

Used car dealers don't make any money unless they attract customers
either.

Lawyers are the primary contributors to Democrats.


You're not much of a dancer.

No, I demonstrated that you have contempt for success and supplication
for the John Edwardses of the world.


You demonstrated that once again, you've danced around someone's
question because to answer it honestly, you'd step in quicksand.


Your question was an AVOIDANCE NON-ANSWER TO TO QUESTIONS I POSED.



No it was not. The point was that every business creates its image, or as
Harry pointed out, earns it, for better or worse. The 3 in the list are
perfect examples. Wal Mart's got a miserable reputation with as many people
as those who love the place. Used car dealers are seen as snakes, much the
same as lawyers. You are fully aware of all this.

The major oil companies are no different. They offer us bull****
explanations for the price swings. If you kids gave you similar answers,
there would be consequences, assuming you were a competent parent.



JoeSpareBedroom May 30th 07 06:03 PM

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"John H." wrote in message
...
On Wed, 30 May 2007 16:47:23 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"Fred Garvin, Male Prostitute" wrote in message
.. .
In message , JoeSpareBedroom
sprach
forth the following:

"Fred Garvin, Male Prostitute" wrote in message
...
In message , JoeSpareBedroom
sprach forth the following:

"Fred Garvin, Male Prostitute" wrote in
message ...
In message , JoeSpareBedroom
sprach forth the following:

Would you agree that the 3 entities below have created public
impressions that are hard to change?

1) Wal Mart
2) Used car dealers
3) Law firms

Wal Mart has more customers than any business in the world.

Used car dealers don't make any money unless they attract customers
either.

Lawyers are the primary contributors to Democrats.


You're not much of a dancer.

No, I demonstrated that you have contempt for success and supplication
for the John Edwardses of the world.

You demonstrated that once again, you've danced around someone's
question because to answer it honestly, you'd step in quicksand.

Your question was an AVOIDANCE NON-ANSWER TO TO QUESTIONS I POSED.



No it was not. The point was that every business creates its image, or as
Harry pointed out, earns it, for better or worse. The 3 in the list are
perfect examples. Wal Mart's got a miserable reputation with as many
people
as those who love the place. Used car dealers are seen as snakes, much the
same as lawyers. You are fully aware of all this.

The major oil companies are no different. They offer us bull****
explanations for the price swings. If you kids gave you similar answers,
there would be consequences, assuming you were a competent parent.



Horse pucky. Wal Mart has been a target of the liberals, like Harry and
the
major media, because it won't unionize.


I don't give a damn about their union situation. I'm talking about the
customer experience, and the fact they they lie about their prices, and that
"made in America" charade.



John H. May 30th 07 06:25 PM

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On Wed, 30 May 2007 10:40:50 -0400, HK wrote:

JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"Fred Garvin, Male Prostitute" wrote in message
...
In message , JoeSpareBedroom sprach
forth the following:

Would you agree that the 3 entities below have created public impressions
that are hard to change?

1) Wal Mart
2) Used car dealers
3) Law firms
Wal Mart has more customers than any business in the world.

Used car dealers don't make any money unless they attract customers
either.

Lawyers are the primary contributors to Democrats.



You're not much of a dancer.




He apparently has four right feet, which is why he lives in my bozo bin,
along with the rest of the intellectually challenged.


Do you not get to read your own posts?

John H. May 30th 07 06:26 PM

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On Wed, 30 May 2007 10:24:20 -0400, HK wrote:

Jim wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
. ..
JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
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GALLUP NEWS SERVICE

PRINCETON, NJ -- The latest Gallup panel survey finds the public bracing
for continued rising gas prices this summer. A majority of poll
respondents expect gas prices to reach the $4.00 per gallon level in
their local area this summer, though only a small minority expects it to
reach the $5.00 mark. Roughly two in three Americans say they have
already been affected financially in some meaningful way by the high gas
prices. The public most often mentions oil company greed as the reason
for the high gas prices, though it also mentions other more practical
reasons such as problems with refineries.

They'll mention whatever the talking heads tell them to mention as
reasons. Remember "increased demand in China"? That's the reason I heard
for the latest run-up. Same thing last year. But, when the price dropped
last year, nobody said "decreased demand in China". I don't listen any
more. The only info I'd believe would come from Rex Tillerson, who was
being waterboarded in return for real details about the pricing scheme.
All other explanations thus far are an insult to our intelligence.

The "problems with refineries" reason is a tad too predictable. There's no
reason to doubt "refinery" and big oil greed, though.


It's pretty hard to ignore big oil's announcement of record profits every
quarter. Maybe it's time to sell the boat and buy Exxon Mobil stock.
Jim




Maybe it is time to elect a president who gives a damn about those with
middle or lower class incomes. We've had six and a half years of
corporate payoff in the White House. It's time to make sure the public's
interest is represented in such key, high-cost to the public industries
as oil and health care.


Yes, the president sets gas prices.

John H. May 30th 07 06:28 PM

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On Wed, 30 May 2007 14:05:21 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"John H." wrote in message
.. .
On Wed, 30 May 2007 11:43:26 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"HK" wrote in message
om...
GALLUP NEWS SERVICE

PRINCETON, NJ -- The latest Gallup panel survey finds the public bracing
for continued rising gas prices this summer. A majority of poll
respondents expect gas prices to reach the $4.00 per gallon level in
their
local area this summer, though only a small minority expects it to reach
the $5.00 mark. Roughly two in three Americans say they have already
been
affected financially in some meaningful way by the high gas prices. The
public most often mentions oil company greed as the reason for the high
gas prices, though it also mentions other more practical reasons such as
problems with refineries.


They'll mention whatever the talking heads tell them to mention as
reasons.
Remember "increased demand in China"? That's the reason I heard for the
latest run-up. Same thing last year. But, when the price dropped last
year,
nobody said "decreased demand in China". I don't listen any more. The only
info I'd believe would come from Rex Tillerson, who was being waterboarded
in return for real details about the pricing scheme. All other
explanations
thus far are an insult to our intelligence.


Explanation - long term maximization of profit. Salvation Army does
charity
work.



You go to the supermarket and find that a gallon of milk is suddenly $4.00.
Last week, it was $2.00. You ask for an explanation and are told "It's due
to increased demand at our store across town".

How would you feel about that answer?


I'd feel like we should elect a president who cares about the poor and the
middle class and would do something to hold down milk prices. Maybe he
could raise cows - unionized, of course.

HK May 30th 07 06:33 PM

Bend Over for 'Big' Oil
 
Gene Kearns wrote:
On Wed, 30 May 2007 13:03:41 -0500, John H.
wrote:


Horse pucky. Wal Mart has been a target of the liberals, like Harry and the
major media, because it won't unionize.


That is the only complaint that you have heard about walmart? Now, I
gotta issue a horse pucky alert!

Check out some of these non-union issues:
http://walmar****ch.com/issues/

Trust me, in the 22 states with right-to-work laws, walmart sucks just
as bad as they do elsewhere.



Poor simple-minded Herring. I suppose his is an example of what happens
to a low-level brain after a career in the military.

John H. May 30th 07 06:33 PM

Bend Over for 'Big' Oil
 
On Wed, 30 May 2007 16:27:46 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"John H." wrote in message
.. .
On Wed, 30 May 2007 14:05:21 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"John H." wrote in message
...
On Wed, 30 May 2007 11:43:26 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"HK" wrote in message
news:69WdnVrWZpgwzsDbnZ2dnUVZ_vzinZ2d@comcast .com...
GALLUP NEWS SERVICE

PRINCETON, NJ -- The latest Gallup panel survey finds the public
bracing
for continued rising gas prices this summer. A majority of poll
respondents expect gas prices to reach the $4.00 per gallon level in
their
local area this summer, though only a small minority expects it to
reach
the $5.00 mark. Roughly two in three Americans say they have already
been
affected financially in some meaningful way by the high gas prices.
The
public most often mentions oil company greed as the reason for the
high
gas prices, though it also mentions other more practical reasons such
as
problems with refineries.


They'll mention whatever the talking heads tell them to mention as
reasons.
Remember "increased demand in China"? That's the reason I heard for the
latest run-up. Same thing last year. But, when the price dropped last
year,
nobody said "decreased demand in China". I don't listen any more. The
only
info I'd believe would come from Rex Tillerson, who was being
waterboarded
in return for real details about the pricing scheme. All other
explanations
thus far are an insult to our intelligence.


Explanation - long term maximization of profit. Salvation Army does
charity
work.


You go to the supermarket and find that a gallon of milk is suddenly
$4.00.
Last week, it was $2.00. You ask for an explanation and are told "It's due
to increased demand at our store across town".

How would you feel about that answer?


I'd feel like we should elect a president who cares about the poor and the
middle class and would do something to hold down milk prices. Maybe he
could raise cows - unionized, of course.


Bull**** answer, as usual. Sesame Street over yet?


You had to read the answer carefully. If the demand for the product has
increased, and the supply has remained constant, then I would expect the
price to increase.

There, is that more enlightening?

JoeSpareBedroom May 30th 07 06:38 PM

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"John H." wrote in message
...
On Wed, 30 May 2007 17:03:43 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"John H." wrote in message
. ..
On Wed, 30 May 2007 16:47:23 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"Fred Garvin, Male Prostitute" wrote in message
...
In message , JoeSpareBedroom
sprach
forth the following:

"Fred Garvin, Male Prostitute" wrote in
message
...
In message , JoeSpareBedroom
sprach forth the following:

"Fred Garvin, Male Prostitute" wrote in
message ...
In message , JoeSpareBedroom
sprach forth the following:

Would you agree that the 3 entities below have created public
impressions that are hard to change?

1) Wal Mart
2) Used car dealers
3) Law firms

Wal Mart has more customers than any business in the world.

Used car dealers don't make any money unless they attract
customers
either.

Lawyers are the primary contributors to Democrats.


You're not much of a dancer.

No, I demonstrated that you have contempt for success and
supplication
for the John Edwardses of the world.

You demonstrated that once again, you've danced around someone's
question because to answer it honestly, you'd step in quicksand.

Your question was an AVOIDANCE NON-ANSWER TO TO QUESTIONS I POSED.


No it was not. The point was that every business creates its image, or
as
Harry pointed out, earns it, for better or worse. The 3 in the list are
perfect examples. Wal Mart's got a miserable reputation with as many
people
as those who love the place. Used car dealers are seen as snakes, much
the
same as lawyers. You are fully aware of all this.

The major oil companies are no different. They offer us bull****
explanations for the price swings. If you kids gave you similar answers,
there would be consequences, assuming you were a competent parent.



Horse pucky. Wal Mart has been a target of the liberals, like Harry and
the
major media, because it won't unionize.


I don't give a damn about their union situation. I'm talking about the
customer experience, and the fact they they lie about their prices, and
that
"made in America" charade.


In my experience, they lie about prices less than Safeway, and I've no
idea
what the 'made in America' charade is about. I think you've concocted
both.


You think I've concocted both because you don't read or get out much.


Much, if not most, of Wal Mart's stuff comes from China. Harry, the other
liberals, including yourself, seem to be in the forefront of finding
anything to help point fingers at Wal Mart.


My opinions are based 100% on my own experience with the store. I don't join
clubs. Harry has his own reasons.


It's all liberal smoke because they won't unionize.


Nope. Don't give a damn about their labor practices.



JoeSpareBedroom May 30th 07 06:42 PM

Bend Over for 'Big' Oil
 
"John H." wrote in message
...
On Wed, 30 May 2007 13:28:30 -0400, Gene Kearns
wrote:

On Wed, 30 May 2007 13:03:41 -0500, John H.
wrote:


Horse pucky. Wal Mart has been a target of the liberals, like Harry and
the
major media, because it won't unionize.


That is the only complaint that you have heard about walmart? Now, I
gotta issue a horse pucky alert!

Check out some of these non-union issues:
http://walmar****ch.com/issues/

Trust me, in the 22 states with right-to-work laws, walmart sucks just
as bad as they do elsewhere.



Oh my gosh! A purely non biased organization whose sole function is to
keep an eye on Wal Mart? Wow, I wonder who funds it.



The exact same information has also been in the newspaper your wife reads,
and then places under your easy chair to catch the mess.



JoeSpareBedroom May 30th 07 06:47 PM

Bend Over for 'Big' Oil
 
"John H." wrote in message
...
On Wed, 30 May 2007 17:42:07 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"John H." wrote in message
. ..
On Wed, 30 May 2007 13:28:30 -0400, Gene Kearns
wrote:

On Wed, 30 May 2007 13:03:41 -0500, John H.
wrote:


Horse pucky. Wal Mart has been a target of the liberals, like Harry and
the
major media, because it won't unionize.

That is the only complaint that you have heard about walmart? Now, I
gotta issue a horse pucky alert!

Check out some of these non-union issues:
http://walmar****ch.com/issues/

Trust me, in the 22 states with right-to-work laws, walmart sucks just
as bad as they do elsewhere.



Oh my gosh! A purely non biased organization whose sole function is to
keep an eye on Wal Mart? Wow, I wonder who funds it.



The exact same information has also been in the newspaper your wife reads,
and then places under your easy chair to catch the mess.


Now why would you resort to personal attacks?


Probably for the same reason you do. When the soap opera pauses for a
commercial, think about it.



JoeSpareBedroom May 30th 07 06:55 PM

Bend Over for 'Big' Oil
 
"John H." wrote in message
...
On Wed, 30 May 2007 17:47:46 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"John H." wrote in message
. ..
On Wed, 30 May 2007 17:42:07 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"John H." wrote in message
m...
On Wed, 30 May 2007 13:28:30 -0400, Gene Kearns
wrote:

On Wed, 30 May 2007 13:03:41 -0500, John H.
wrote:


Horse pucky. Wal Mart has been a target of the liberals, like Harry
and
the
major media, because it won't unionize.

That is the only complaint that you have heard about walmart? Now, I
gotta issue a horse pucky alert!

Check out some of these non-union issues:
http://walmar****ch.com/issues/

Trust me, in the 22 states with right-to-work laws, walmart sucks just
as bad as they do elsewhere.



Oh my gosh! A purely non biased organization whose sole function is
to
keep an eye on Wal Mart? Wow, I wonder who funds it.


The exact same information has also been in the newspaper your wife
reads,
and then places under your easy chair to catch the mess.


Now why would you resort to personal attacks?


Probably for the same reason you do. When the soap opera pauses for a
commercial, think about it.


I suppose if I felt backed into a corner I may do the same.


Your refusal to take any conversation seriously is insulting, and therefore,
a personal attack on anyone else in a discussion.



John H. May 30th 07 07:03 PM

Bend Over for 'Big' Oil
 
On Wed, 30 May 2007 16:47:23 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"Fred Garvin, Male Prostitute" wrote in message
. ..
In message , JoeSpareBedroom sprach
forth the following:

"Fred Garvin, Male Prostitute" wrote in message
...
In message , JoeSpareBedroom
sprach forth the following:

"Fred Garvin, Male Prostitute" wrote in
message ...
In message , JoeSpareBedroom
sprach forth the following:

Would you agree that the 3 entities below have created public
impressions that are hard to change?

1) Wal Mart
2) Used car dealers
3) Law firms

Wal Mart has more customers than any business in the world.

Used car dealers don't make any money unless they attract customers
either.

Lawyers are the primary contributors to Democrats.


You're not much of a dancer.

No, I demonstrated that you have contempt for success and supplication
for the John Edwardses of the world.

You demonstrated that once again, you've danced around someone's
question because to answer it honestly, you'd step in quicksand.


Your question was an AVOIDANCE NON-ANSWER TO TO QUESTIONS I POSED.



No it was not. The point was that every business creates its image, or as
Harry pointed out, earns it, for better or worse. The 3 in the list are
perfect examples. Wal Mart's got a miserable reputation with as many people
as those who love the place. Used car dealers are seen as snakes, much the
same as lawyers. You are fully aware of all this.

The major oil companies are no different. They offer us bull****
explanations for the price swings. If you kids gave you similar answers,
there would be consequences, assuming you were a competent parent.



Horse pucky. Wal Mart has been a target of the liberals, like Harry and the
major media, because it won't unionize.

John H. May 30th 07 07:05 PM

Bend Over for 'Big' Oil
 
On 30 May 2007 16:42:11 GMT, "Fred Garvin, Male Prostitute"
wrote:

In message , John H. sprach
forth the following:

There, is that more enlightening?


Jackoff Spare Birdbrain is immune to enlightenment.


I try not to get into the name-calling pattern. But, your point has been
made. Several times.

HK May 30th 07 07:23 PM

Bend Over for 'Big' Oil
 
Gene Kearns wrote:
On Wed, 30 May 2007 13:43:15 -0500, John H.
wrote:

You've picked a winner, Gene.


Who he is doesn't mean that he is wrong.... unless you are trying to
say that a person's political affiliation determines the veracity of
their statements.



That's everything to someone like Herring. He's one of five remaining
voters who still supports Bush's war against Iraq.

John H. May 30th 07 07:32 PM

Bend Over for 'Big' Oil
 
On Wed, 30 May 2007 17:03:43 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"John H." wrote in message
.. .
On Wed, 30 May 2007 16:47:23 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"Fred Garvin, Male Prostitute" wrote in message
. ..
In message , JoeSpareBedroom
sprach
forth the following:

"Fred Garvin, Male Prostitute" wrote in message
...
In message , JoeSpareBedroom
sprach forth the following:

"Fred Garvin, Male Prostitute" wrote in
message ...
In message , JoeSpareBedroom
sprach forth the following:

Would you agree that the 3 entities below have created public
impressions that are hard to change?

1) Wal Mart
2) Used car dealers
3) Law firms

Wal Mart has more customers than any business in the world.

Used car dealers don't make any money unless they attract customers
either.

Lawyers are the primary contributors to Democrats.


You're not much of a dancer.

No, I demonstrated that you have contempt for success and supplication
for the John Edwardses of the world.

You demonstrated that once again, you've danced around someone's
question because to answer it honestly, you'd step in quicksand.

Your question was an AVOIDANCE NON-ANSWER TO TO QUESTIONS I POSED.


No it was not. The point was that every business creates its image, or as
Harry pointed out, earns it, for better or worse. The 3 in the list are
perfect examples. Wal Mart's got a miserable reputation with as many
people
as those who love the place. Used car dealers are seen as snakes, much the
same as lawyers. You are fully aware of all this.

The major oil companies are no different. They offer us bull****
explanations for the price swings. If you kids gave you similar answers,
there would be consequences, assuming you were a competent parent.



Horse pucky. Wal Mart has been a target of the liberals, like Harry and
the
major media, because it won't unionize.


I don't give a damn about their union situation. I'm talking about the
customer experience, and the fact they they lie about their prices, and that
"made in America" charade.


In my experience, they lie about prices less than Safeway, and I've no idea
what the 'made in America' charade is about. I think you've concocted both.
Much, if not most, of Wal Mart's stuff comes from China. Harry, the other
liberals, including yourself, seem to be in the forefront of finding
anything to help point fingers at Wal Mart.

It's all liberal smoke because they won't unionize.

They have good deals on fishing gear, BTW.

Eisboch May 30th 07 07:36 PM

Bend Over for 'Big' Oil
 

"Gene Kearns" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 30 May 2007 13:03:41 -0500, John H.
wrote:


Horse pucky. Wal Mart has been a target of the liberals, like Harry and
the
major media, because it won't unionize.


That is the only complaint that you have heard about walmart? Now, I
gotta issue a horse pucky alert!

Check out some of these non-union issues:
http://walmar****ch.com/issues/

Trust me, in the 22 states with right-to-work laws, walmart sucks just
as bad as they do elsewhere.



You people are pointing your fingers at the wrong culprit. Wal-Mart is
popular and successful because they carry what people want at prices that
people want to pay.

So, who's at fault?

Eisboch (on da boat)



John H. May 30th 07 07:43 PM

Bend Over for 'Big' Oil
 
On Wed, 30 May 2007 13:28:30 -0400, Gene Kearns
wrote:

On Wed, 30 May 2007 13:03:41 -0500, John H.
wrote:


Horse pucky. Wal Mart has been a target of the liberals, like Harry and the
major media, because it won't unionize.


That is the only complaint that you have heard about walmart? Now, I
gotta issue a horse pucky alert!

Check out some of these non-union issues:
http://walmar****ch.com/issues/

Trust me, in the 22 states with right-to-work laws, walmart sucks just
as bad as they do elsewhere.



Oh my gosh! A purely non biased organization whose sole function is to
keep an eye on Wal Mart? Wow, I wonder who funds it.

Oh gosh, look, Andrew Grossman, the boss of the organization. Now, I wonder
what he did...

"Andrew Grossman, former executive director of the Democratic Senatorial
Campaign Committee, is the executive director at walmar****ch.com, and says
his personal motivation for being such is to, “change the way large
businesses interact with people.” Grossman says he hopes the website will
be, “a resource base anyone can use,” and will provide people will tools to
help be more effective in changing the business ethics of corporations such
as Wal-Mart"

You've picked a winner, Gene.

John H. May 30th 07 07:44 PM

Bend Over for 'Big' Oil
 
On Wed, 30 May 2007 13:33:04 -0400, HK wrote:

Gene Kearns wrote:
On Wed, 30 May 2007 13:03:41 -0500, John H.
wrote:


Horse pucky. Wal Mart has been a target of the liberals, like Harry and the
major media, because it won't unionize.


That is the only complaint that you have heard about walmart? Now, I
gotta issue a horse pucky alert!

Check out some of these non-union issues:
http://walmar****ch.com/issues/

Trust me, in the 22 states with right-to-work laws, walmart sucks just
as bad as they do elsewhere.



Poor simple-minded Herring. I suppose his is an example of what happens
to a low-level brain after a career in the military.


Harrie, you're such a neat guy. Thanks for your contribution. It's one of
your better ones!

John H. May 30th 07 07:45 PM

Bend Over for 'Big' Oil
 
On Wed, 30 May 2007 17:38:06 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"John H." wrote in message
.. .
On Wed, 30 May 2007 17:03:43 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"John H." wrote in message
...
On Wed, 30 May 2007 16:47:23 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"Fred Garvin, Male Prostitute" wrote in message
8...
In message , JoeSpareBedroom
sprach
forth the following:

"Fred Garvin, Male Prostitute" wrote in
message
...
In message , JoeSpareBedroom
sprach forth the following:

"Fred Garvin, Male Prostitute" wrote in
message ...
In message , JoeSpareBedroom
sprach forth the following:

Would you agree that the 3 entities below have created public
impressions that are hard to change?

1) Wal Mart
2) Used car dealers
3) Law firms

Wal Mart has more customers than any business in the world.

Used car dealers don't make any money unless they attract
customers
either.

Lawyers are the primary contributors to Democrats.


You're not much of a dancer.

No, I demonstrated that you have contempt for success and
supplication
for the John Edwardses of the world.

You demonstrated that once again, you've danced around someone's
question because to answer it honestly, you'd step in quicksand.

Your question was an AVOIDANCE NON-ANSWER TO TO QUESTIONS I POSED.


No it was not. The point was that every business creates its image, or
as
Harry pointed out, earns it, for better or worse. The 3 in the list are
perfect examples. Wal Mart's got a miserable reputation with as many
people
as those who love the place. Used car dealers are seen as snakes, much
the
same as lawyers. You are fully aware of all this.

The major oil companies are no different. They offer us bull****
explanations for the price swings. If you kids gave you similar answers,
there would be consequences, assuming you were a competent parent.



Horse pucky. Wal Mart has been a target of the liberals, like Harry and
the
major media, because it won't unionize.

I don't give a damn about their union situation. I'm talking about the
customer experience, and the fact they they lie about their prices, and
that
"made in America" charade.


In my experience, they lie about prices less than Safeway, and I've no
idea
what the 'made in America' charade is about. I think you've concocted
both.


You think I've concocted both because you don't read or get out much.


Much, if not most, of Wal Mart's stuff comes from China. Harry, the other
liberals, including yourself, seem to be in the forefront of finding
anything to help point fingers at Wal Mart.


My opinions are based 100% on my own experience with the store. I don't join
clubs. Harry has his own reasons.


It's all liberal smoke because they won't unionize.


Nope. Don't give a damn about their labor practices.


My advice - stay out of the store.

Also, you might make a contribution to the organization Gene mentioned.

John H. May 30th 07 07:49 PM

Bend Over for 'Big' Oil
 
On Wed, 30 May 2007 17:42:07 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"John H." wrote in message
.. .
On Wed, 30 May 2007 13:28:30 -0400, Gene Kearns
wrote:

On Wed, 30 May 2007 13:03:41 -0500, John H.
wrote:


Horse pucky. Wal Mart has been a target of the liberals, like Harry and
the
major media, because it won't unionize.

That is the only complaint that you have heard about walmart? Now, I
gotta issue a horse pucky alert!

Check out some of these non-union issues:
http://walmar****ch.com/issues/

Trust me, in the 22 states with right-to-work laws, walmart sucks just
as bad as they do elsewhere.



Oh my gosh! A purely non biased organization whose sole function is to
keep an eye on Wal Mart? Wow, I wonder who funds it.



The exact same information has also been in the newspaper your wife reads,
and then places under your easy chair to catch the mess.


Now why would you resort to personal attacks?

John H. May 30th 07 07:57 PM

Bend Over for 'Big' Oil
 
On Wed, 30 May 2007 17:47:46 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"John H." wrote in message
.. .
On Wed, 30 May 2007 17:42:07 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"John H." wrote in message
...
On Wed, 30 May 2007 13:28:30 -0400, Gene Kearns
wrote:

On Wed, 30 May 2007 13:03:41 -0500, John H.
wrote:


Horse pucky. Wal Mart has been a target of the liberals, like Harry and
the
major media, because it won't unionize.

That is the only complaint that you have heard about walmart? Now, I
gotta issue a horse pucky alert!

Check out some of these non-union issues:
http://walmar****ch.com/issues/

Trust me, in the 22 states with right-to-work laws, walmart sucks just
as bad as they do elsewhere.



Oh my gosh! A purely non biased organization whose sole function is to
keep an eye on Wal Mart? Wow, I wonder who funds it.


The exact same information has also been in the newspaper your wife reads,
and then places under your easy chair to catch the mess.


Now why would you resort to personal attacks?


Probably for the same reason you do. When the soap opera pauses for a
commercial, think about it.


I suppose if I felt backed into a corner I may do the same.


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