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RCE wrote:
"HK" wrote in message . .. JoeSpareBedroom wrote: "John H." wrote in message ... Perhaps you could show me an example of 'standing up for Communist China'. Su Buying from them. Very simple. I would love to hear you say you buy nothing made in China, including components. Assuming I have a choice, and I'm aware of where something's made, I buy as little as possible from China. You probably find that odd, the idea of reading labels. I don't knowingly buy anything made in the PRC. Sometimes you can't avoid it, or you find out about it after the sale. The world is changing. We have a much more global economy. Isolationism is a thing of the past. Don't get stuck in the mud. Eisboch It's not isolationism. I'm probably the only poster here who actually spent a considerable amount of time in the PRC. |
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On Thu, 31 May 2007 10:26:27 -0400, HK wrote:
Don White wrote: y. None of these characters ever attacks the outrageous wages/bonuses paid to the corporate elite...even when they don't perform and lead the companies on the downward spiral. It's part of being self-satisfied, smug conservatrash. (c.f., Herring, Smithers, and the rest of the assholes here) Don, don't you find Harrie's comments especially rewarding? He is such a neat guy. I can see why you've got him on a pedestal. He deserves it! He sounds like a smug, self-satisfied liberal, wouldn't you say? |
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On Thu, 31 May 2007 10:14:01 -0400, Gene Kearns
wrote: On Thu, 31 May 2007 09:05:08 -0500, John H. wrote: On Thu, 31 May 2007 08:32:39 -0400, Gene Kearns wrote: On Wed, 30 May 2007 16:10:36 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III" wrote: Gene, Most economist would tell you that the selfish respect for their own pocketbook is actually the best thing for the American Worker, the American Consumer and the American Economy. I guess my response, then, is that we have yet another group of advisors that are educated far beyond their intelligence. Walmart abandoned the "Made in America" philosophy when Sam Walton died... and as far as I am concerned walmart died with him. There is no way that sending thousands of jobs overseas and billions of dollars overseas is good for America or Americans. I can't, for the life of me, understand the change in the American spirit..... when we proudly bought the best goods available.... and were able to own and maintain those tools for many years. We now buy cheap, crappy, made in China junk that is quickly used up and fills our landfills. The net result of this is a 20 BILLIION dollar PER MONTH balance of trade deficit with China which they have turned around to be holders of about 25% (last I heard) of the US's total debt. Every time you shop at walmart, just know that you are increasing the national debt to China and cutting another American out of the potential for earning some part of that purchase price. This is not a closed economy. A selfish respect for one's own pocketbook does not mean that you are doing the right thing by your country or your countrymen. This isn't news.... it is just a shoe on the other foot. We ought to be smart enough not to fall victim to the practices and policies that filled the American coffers out of other countries poor business deals. Apparently, we are not. Well, you'd have to say the same for Penny's, Macy's, Sears, and the Dollar Store. Maybe you'd change the country, but the principle would remain. Yet, I see no liberals raising hell about Penny's! I don't think it has anything with being "liberal" or not.... I don't consider myself a "liberal." I think is has to do with walmart being the worst of the worst. I don't shop at any of the stores above. I used to proudly shop at Sears and buy the "best" item, knowing that I could probably keep it for many years. Long before I knew of walmart... somewhere in the 80's I guess, Sears started buying foreign made junk and I stopped trading with them. I still think it is the wrong thing to do to trade with companies that increase the national debt to China and cut other Americans out of the potential for earning some part of that purchase price. I am really confused by people considering themselves "conservatives" that stand up for Communist China and their trading partners in the US. Perhaps you could show me an example of 'standing up for Communist China'. You have made derogatory comments about Wal Mart. Your rationale applies to most of the stores in the US. Why not just indict them all? I don't 'like' Wal Mart any better than any of the stores I mentioned earlier. It's close to me, so I go there when I want something they have. |
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On Thu, 31 May 2007 15:19:32 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote: "John H." wrote in message .. . On Thu, 31 May 2007 10:14:01 -0400, Gene Kearns wrote: On Thu, 31 May 2007 09:05:08 -0500, John H. wrote: On Thu, 31 May 2007 08:32:39 -0400, Gene Kearns wrote: On Wed, 30 May 2007 16:10:36 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III" wrote: Gene, Most economist would tell you that the selfish respect for their own pocketbook is actually the best thing for the American Worker, the American Consumer and the American Economy. I guess my response, then, is that we have yet another group of advisors that are educated far beyond their intelligence. Walmart abandoned the "Made in America" philosophy when Sam Walton died... and as far as I am concerned walmart died with him. There is no way that sending thousands of jobs overseas and billions of dollars overseas is good for America or Americans. I can't, for the life of me, understand the change in the American spirit..... when we proudly bought the best goods available.... and were able to own and maintain those tools for many years. We now buy cheap, crappy, made in China junk that is quickly used up and fills our landfills. The net result of this is a 20 BILLIION dollar PER MONTH balance of trade deficit with China which they have turned around to be holders of about 25% (last I heard) of the US's total debt. Every time you shop at walmart, just know that you are increasing the national debt to China and cutting another American out of the potential for earning some part of that purchase price. This is not a closed economy. A selfish respect for one's own pocketbook does not mean that you are doing the right thing by your country or your countrymen. This isn't news.... it is just a shoe on the other foot. We ought to be smart enough not to fall victim to the practices and policies that filled the American coffers out of other countries poor business deals. Apparently, we are not. Well, you'd have to say the same for Penny's, Macy's, Sears, and the Dollar Store. Maybe you'd change the country, but the principle would remain. Yet, I see no liberals raising hell about Penny's! I don't think it has anything with being "liberal" or not.... I don't consider myself a "liberal." I think is has to do with walmart being the worst of the worst. I don't shop at any of the stores above. I used to proudly shop at Sears and buy the "best" item, knowing that I could probably keep it for many years. Long before I knew of walmart... somewhere in the 80's I guess, Sears started buying foreign made junk and I stopped trading with them. I still think it is the wrong thing to do to trade with companies that increase the national debt to China and cut other Americans out of the potential for earning some part of that purchase price. I am really confused by people considering themselves "conservatives" that stand up for Communist China and their trading partners in the US. Perhaps you could show me an example of 'standing up for Communist China'. Su Buying from them. Very simple. I would love to hear you say you buy nothing made in China, including components. |
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On Thu, 31 May 2007 11:27:33 -0400, Gene Kearns
wrote: On 31 May 2007 15:09:51 GMT, "Fred Garvin, Male Prostitute" wrote: In message , Gene Kearns sprach forth the following: I still think it is the wrong thing to do to trade with companies that increase the national debt to China and cut other Americans out of the potential for earning some part of that purchase price. Not everyone can afford a $3,000 Viking fridge. Maybe if we didn't have an influx of cheap crap, greater volume manufacturing of the Viking would make it a lot more affordable. I think you'll have to admit that it is a better quality American Made product than any crap walmart sells. ....or Sears, Penny's, Macy's, Dollar Store, K-Mart, etc. |
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On Thu, 31 May 2007 15:36:55 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote: "John H." wrote in message .. . Perhaps you could show me an example of 'standing up for Communist China'. Su Buying from them. Very simple. I would love to hear you say you buy nothing made in China, including components. Assuming I have a choice, and I'm aware of where something's made, I buy as little as possible from China. You probably find that odd, the idea of reading labels. No, as a matter of fact, I feel the same way. I'd much rather buy well-made American products. That's why I'm still running my GMC pickup with 133,000 miles on it. But, I did buy the wife a Toyota Highlander, which she dearly loves. |
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On Thu, 31 May 2007 11:41:35 -0400, HK wrote:
JoeSpareBedroom wrote: "John H." wrote in message ... Perhaps you could show me an example of 'standing up for Communist China'. Su Buying from them. Very simple. I would love to hear you say you buy nothing made in China, including components. Assuming I have a choice, and I'm aware of where something's made, I buy as little as possible from China. You probably find that odd, the idea of reading labels. I don't knowingly buy anything made in the PRC. Sometimes you can't avoid it, or you find out about it after the sale. Doug would tell you to read the label, if you could. |
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On Thu, 31 May 2007 11:52:19 -0400, Gene Kearns
wrote: On Thu, 31 May 2007 11:43:49 -0500, John H. wrote: No, as a matter of fact, I feel the same way. I'd much rather buy well-made American products. That's why I'm still running my GMC pickup with 133,000 miles on it. But, I did buy the wife a Toyota Highlander, which she dearly loves. I guess love makes us make bad decisions. One of my coworkers that damn near went down with the USS Lexington, reluctantly bought his wife the Mitsubishi SUV that she liked, in spite of the fact that he declares that, "the *******s tried to kill me in WWII." LOL! Well, if Toyotas were made in North Vietnam, I might have had second thoughts. But, Consumer Reports consistently ranks the Highlander at the top of the SUV heap. |
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"HK" wrote in message . .. It's not isolationism. I'm probably the only poster here who actually spent a considerable amount of time in the PRC. I spent a week in Wuxi. Longest week of my life. Eisboch |
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"John H." wrote in message ... On Thu, 31 May 2007 10:26:27 -0400, HK wrote: Don White wrote: y. None of these characters ever attacks the outrageous wages/bonuses paid to the corporate elite...even when they don't perform and lead the companies on the downward spiral. It's part of being self-satisfied, smug conservatrash. (c.f., Herring, Smithers, and the rest of the assholes here) Don, don't you find Harrie's comments especially rewarding? *He is such a neat guy*. I can see why you've got him on a pedestal. He deserves it! He sounds like a smug, self-satisfied liberal, wouldn't you say? I wouldn't! Sounds like *you* have Harry on the pedestal...you're always praising him..calling him "such a neat guy" etc. |
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On Thu, 31 May 2007 12:06:14 -0400, HK wrote:
RCE wrote: "HK" wrote in message . .. JoeSpareBedroom wrote: "John H." wrote in message ... Perhaps you could show me an example of 'standing up for Communist China'. Su Buying from them. Very simple. I would love to hear you say you buy nothing made in China, including components. Assuming I have a choice, and I'm aware of where something's made, I buy as little as possible from China. You probably find that odd, the idea of reading labels. I don't knowingly buy anything made in the PRC. Sometimes you can't avoid it, or you find out about it after the sale. The world is changing. We have a much more global economy. Isolationism is a thing of the past. Don't get stuck in the mud. Eisboch It's not isolationism. I'm probably the only poster here who actually spent a considerable amount of time in the PRC. And a lot of time in Vietnam, and a lot of time in the Chesapeake Bay! |
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HK wrote:
RCE wrote: "HK" wrote in message . .. JoeSpareBedroom wrote: "John H." wrote in message ... Perhaps you could show me an example of 'standing up for Communist China'. Su Buying from them. Very simple. I would love to hear you say you buy nothing made in China, including components. Assuming I have a choice, and I'm aware of where something's made, I buy as little as possible from China. You probably find that odd, the idea of reading labels. I don't knowingly buy anything made in the PRC. Sometimes you can't avoid it, or you find out about it after the sale. The world is changing. We have a much more global economy. Isolationism is a thing of the past. Don't get stuck in the mud. Eisboch It's not isolationism. I'm probably the only poster here who actually spent a considerable amount of time in the PRC. Was that when you were researching your Lobster Boat? |
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On Thu, 31 May 2007 14:21:11 -0300, "Don White"
wrote: "John H." wrote in message .. . On Thu, 31 May 2007 10:26:27 -0400, HK wrote: Don White wrote: y. None of these characters ever attacks the outrageous wages/bonuses paid to the corporate elite...even when they don't perform and lead the companies on the downward spiral. It's part of being self-satisfied, smug conservatrash. (c.f., Herring, Smithers, and the rest of the assholes here) Don, don't you find Harrie's comments especially rewarding? *He is such a neat guy*. I can see why you've got him on a pedestal. He deserves it! He sounds like a smug, self-satisfied liberal, wouldn't you say? I wouldn't! Sounds like *you* have Harry on the pedestal...you're always praising him..calling him "such a neat guy" etc. I do! He *is* about the neatest guy around, don't you think? Did you look up the owls? I noted you had no more questions about them. |
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Gene Kearns wrote:
On 31 May 2007 18:04:35 GMT, "Fred Garvin, Male Prostitute" wrote: In message , Gene Kearns sprach forth the following: Maybe if we didn't have an influx of cheap crap "An influx of cheap crap" - a perfect description of illegal immigration. I don't know that I'd stoop to using those words, but it is virtually the same problem as walmart, et al. Illegal immigration should and MUST be stopped, but it is not in the interests of this administration to do so. I hope the next administration can read immigration laws for content and develop enough courage to do the right thing. Bush has been a major player in the desire to sell out American workers, he's not the only one to blame. Look to corporate America, whose goal it is to revert back to the 18th and 19th Centuries in this country when employees were little more than chattel. Real wages are going down the toilet, and benefits are disappearing. Unlike most of the rest of the civilized Western world, we don't have any system of national health care or even a serious system to retrain workers whose jobs are disappearing. Illegals are easy to exploit and help further drive down the wages of American workers. We're headed down a long slide right into the toilet. Never has the Republican mantra of "I've got mine, so screw you" been more apt. Perhaps in 25 years or so we'll have a really violent worker revolution and we'll see lots of multinational corporate heads on pikes. I doubt I'll be here to see it, though, and that makes me sad. |
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Gene Kearns wrote:
On 31 May 2007 18:05:45 GMT, "Fred Garvin, Male Prostitute" wrote: All these companies are far more profitable than you are, and they are 100% dependent on the buying decisions of consumers. So are you more envious of the successful, or disdainful of your fellow citizens? My wife teaches middle school. She has students that tell her that she can teach them nothing worthwhile, since they can make more money on a street corner in a weekend than she makes in a month. They are neither lying nor exaggerating. They are much more profitable than she is, but she thinks they are wrong. So, should I tell her that she is mere envious of the more successful, or just disdainful of her students? Your boy Fred here is a living example of precisely what is wrong with this country: ignorant, selfish, and stupid beyond belief. Oh, and no balls, either. |
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On 31 May 2007 18:05:45 GMT, "Fred Garvin, Male Prostitute"
wrote: In message , John H. sprach forth the following: On Thu, 31 May 2007 11:27:33 -0400, Gene Kearns wrote: On 31 May 2007 15:09:51 GMT, "Fred Garvin, Male Prostitute" wrote: In message , Gene Kearns sprach forth the following: I still think it is the wrong thing to do to trade with companies that increase the national debt to China and cut other Americans out of the potential for earning some part of that purchase price. Not everyone can afford a $3,000 Viking fridge. Maybe if we didn't have an influx of cheap crap, greater volume manufacturing of the Viking would make it a lot more affordable. I think you'll have to admit that it is a better quality American Made product than any crap walmart sells. ...or Sears, Penny's, Macy's, Dollar Store, K-Mart, etc. All these companies are far more profitable than you are, and they are 100% dependent on the buying decisions of consumers. So are you more envious of the successful, or disdainful of your fellow citizens? Have you followed the thread at all, or are you just jumping in with assumptions? |
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On Thu, 31 May 2007 14:34:41 -0400, Gene Kearns
wrote: On 31 May 2007 18:04:35 GMT, "Fred Garvin, Male Prostitute" wrote: In message , Gene Kearns sprach forth the following: Maybe if we didn't have an influx of cheap crap "An influx of cheap crap" - a perfect description of illegal immigration. I don't know that I'd stoop to using those words, but it is virtually the same problem as walmart, et al. Illegal immigration should and MUST be stopped, but it is not in the interests of this administration to do so. I hope the next administration can read immigration laws for content and develop enough courage to do the right thing. It's for sure in the interest of Democrats to allow illegal immigration. That will become their voting base soon. The Republican Party will become history, and we'll have a one party country. Luckily, I'll be dead and gone then. BTW, I just got back from Home Depot. I checked fluorescent light bulbs. All of them were made in China. Then I checked GE's regular light bulbs. Same result. Then I looked at a few other things, all made in China. I think, except for lumber, it may be hard to find something in Home Depot that's *not* made in China. BUT - the Black and Decker edger blade wasn't made in China! It was made in Mexico! I also noticed that all the big overhead signs are now in two languages, English is still printed a little bigger, but I imagine that'll change soon. Doesn't it cost the consumer money to reprint all those signs? Am I not paying for the failure of the Spanish speaking immigrants to learn a little English? |
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"John H." wrote in message
... On Thu, 31 May 2007 14:42:46 -0400, Gene Kearns wrote: On 31 May 2007 18:05:45 GMT, "Fred Garvin, Male Prostitute" wrote: All these companies are far more profitable than you are, and they are 100% dependent on the buying decisions of consumers. So are you more envious of the successful, or disdainful of your fellow citizens? My wife teaches middle school. She has students that tell her that she can teach them nothing worthwhile, since they can make more money on a street corner in a weekend than she makes in a month. They are neither lying nor exaggerating. They are much more profitable than she is, but she thinks they are wrong. So, should I tell her that she is mere envious of the more successful, or just disdainful of her students? You should tell her she has one of the most difficult jobs in the world. The fact that she can put up with it, day after day, is a testament to her patience. I lasted only ten years, by which time I was totally sick of 8th graders. Everybody wave the flag and get out your hankies. |
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On Thu, 31 May 2007 14:42:46 -0400, Gene Kearns
wrote: On 31 May 2007 18:05:45 GMT, "Fred Garvin, Male Prostitute" wrote: All these companies are far more profitable than you are, and they are 100% dependent on the buying decisions of consumers. So are you more envious of the successful, or disdainful of your fellow citizens? My wife teaches middle school. She has students that tell her that she can teach them nothing worthwhile, since they can make more money on a street corner in a weekend than she makes in a month. They are neither lying nor exaggerating. They are much more profitable than she is, but she thinks they are wrong. So, should I tell her that she is mere envious of the more successful, or just disdainful of her students? You should tell her she has one of the most difficult jobs in the world. The fact that she can put up with it, day after day, is a testament to her patience. I lasted only ten years, by which time I was totally sick of 8th graders. Good luck to her. Give her a big hug every day when she gets home. |
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On Thu, 31 May 2007 14:53:32 -0400, HK wrote:
Gene Kearns wrote: On 31 May 2007 18:04:35 GMT, "Fred Garvin, Male Prostitute" wrote: In message , Gene Kearns sprach forth the following: Maybe if we didn't have an influx of cheap crap "An influx of cheap crap" - a perfect description of illegal immigration. I don't know that I'd stoop to using those words, but it is virtually the same problem as walmart, et al. Illegal immigration should and MUST be stopped, but it is not in the interests of this administration to do so. I hope the next administration can read immigration laws for content and develop enough courage to do the right thing. Bush has been a major player in the desire to sell out American workers, he's not the only one to blame. Look to corporate America, whose goal it is to revert back to the 18th and 19th Centuries in this country when employees were little more than chattel. Real wages are going down the toilet, and benefits are disappearing. Unlike most of the rest of the civilized Western world, we don't have any system of national health care or even a serious system to retrain workers whose jobs are disappearing. Illegals are easy to exploit and help further drive down the wages of American workers. We're headed down a long slide right into the toilet. Never has the Republican mantra of "I've got mine, so screw you" been more apt. Perhaps in 25 years or so we'll have a really violent worker revolution and we'll see lots of multinational corporate heads on pikes. I doubt I'll be here to see it, though, and that makes me sad. Yes, I'd forgotten that the liberals are doing all they can to stop illegal immigration and return the millions of illegals that are already here. Of course, those folks don't affect wages because they're a 'mythical' supply. When there is no competition for labor, why should anyone pay more than the minimum? |
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On Thu, 31 May 2007 14:55:45 -0400, HK wrote:
Gene Kearns wrote: On 31 May 2007 18:05:45 GMT, "Fred Garvin, Male Prostitute" wrote: All these companies are far more profitable than you are, and they are 100% dependent on the buying decisions of consumers. So are you more envious of the successful, or disdainful of your fellow citizens? My wife teaches middle school. She has students that tell her that she can teach them nothing worthwhile, since they can make more money on a street corner in a weekend than she makes in a month. They are neither lying nor exaggerating. They are much more profitable than she is, but she thinks they are wrong. So, should I tell her that she is mere envious of the more successful, or just disdainful of her students? Your boy Fred here is a living example of precisely what is wrong with this country: ignorant, selfish, and stupid beyond belief. Oh, and no balls, either. But Harrie is an example of the best Yale has to offer. He is the best name-caller in the group, except for, perhaps, basskisser. He is a neat guy! |
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In article , jherring1
@yahoo.com says... On Wed, 30 May 2007 10:24:20 -0400, HK wrote: Jim wrote: "HK" wrote in message . .. JoeSpareBedroom wrote: "HK" wrote in message . .. GALLUP NEWS SERVICE PRINCETON, NJ -- The latest Gallup panel survey finds the public bracing for continued rising gas prices this summer. A majority of poll respondents expect gas prices to reach the $4.00 per gallon level in their local area this summer, though only a small minority expects it to reach the $5.00 mark. Roughly two in three Americans say they have already been affected financially in some meaningful way by the high gas prices. The public most often mentions oil company greed as the reason for the high gas prices, though it also mentions other more practical reasons such as problems with refineries. They'll mention whatever the talking heads tell them to mention as reasons. Remember "increased demand in China"? That's the reason I heard for the latest run-up. Same thing last year. But, when the price dropped last year, nobody said "decreased demand in China". I don't listen any more. The only info I'd believe would come from Rex Tillerson, who was being waterboarded in return for real details about the pricing scheme. All other explanations thus far are an insult to our intelligence. The "problems with refineries" reason is a tad too predictable. There's no reason to doubt "refinery" and big oil greed, though. It's pretty hard to ignore big oil's announcement of record profits every quarter. Maybe it's time to sell the boat and buy Exxon Mobil stock. Jim Maybe it is time to elect a president who gives a damn about those with middle or lower class incomes. We've had six and a half years of corporate payoff in the White House. It's time to make sure the public's interest is represented in such key, high-cost to the public industries as oil and health care. Yes, the president sets gas prices. Bumper sticker brain. Some things just don't change. Tell me if this make sense... Under this president and administration, the oil companies know that they'll benefit from the sort of oversight afforded a regular golf partner who likes to kick his ball out of the rough. Stock holders won't benefit, just the cocksuckers running things. jps |
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"HK" wrote in message ... Gene Kearns wrote: On 31 May 2007 18:04:35 GMT, "Fred Garvin, Male Prostitute" wrote: In message , Gene Kearns sprach forth the following: Maybe if we didn't have an influx of cheap crap "An influx of cheap crap" - a perfect description of illegal immigration. I don't know that I'd stoop to using those words, but it is virtually the same problem as walmart, et al. Illegal immigration should and MUST be stopped, but it is not in the interests of this administration to do so. I hope the next administration can read immigration laws for content and develop enough courage to do the right thing. Bush has been a major player in the desire to sell out American workers, he's not the only one to blame. Look to corporate America, whose goal it is to revert back to the 18th and 19th Centuries in this country when employees were little more than chattel. Real wages are going down the toilet, and benefits are disappearing. Unlike most of the rest of the civilized Western world, we don't have any system of national health care or even a serious system to retrain workers whose jobs are disappearing. It is not Bush's fault. The fault goes *both* to the unions and head management. However, the fault goes mainly to management as they are the ones who gave in to the demands of the unions. Look at the new CEO of Ford. He took over in September '06 and after one of the worse years Ford ever had he was *rewarded* with over $30 million in salary, bonus and stock options for those blundered 3 months of work. No wonder the Big 3 is going bust. |
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"John H." wrote in message ... On Thu, 31 May 2007 14:34:41 -0400, Gene Kearns wrote: On 31 May 2007 18:04:35 GMT, "Fred Garvin, Male Prostitute" wrote: In message , Gene Kearns sprach forth the following: Maybe if we didn't have an influx of cheap crap "An influx of cheap crap" - a perfect description of illegal immigration. I don't know that I'd stoop to using those words, but it is virtually the same problem as walmart, et al. Illegal immigration should and MUST be stopped, but it is not in the interests of this administration to do so. I hope the next administration can read immigration laws for content and develop enough courage to do the right thing. It's for sure in the interest of Democrats to allow illegal immigration. That will become their voting base soon. The Republican Party will become history, and we'll have a one party country. Luckily, I'll be dead and gone then. BTW, I just got back from Home Depot. I checked fluorescent light bulbs. All of them were made in China. Then I checked GE's regular light bulbs. Same result. Then I looked at a few other things, all made in China. I think, except for lumber, it may be hard to find something in Home Depot that's *not* made in China. BUT - the Black and Decker edger blade wasn't made in China! It was made in Mexico! I also noticed that all the big overhead signs are now in two languages, English is still printed a little bigger, but I imagine that'll change soon. Doesn't it cost the consumer money to reprint all those signs? Am I not paying for the failure of the Spanish speaking immigrants to learn a little English? Hee hee..welcome to my world. Best thing to do is learn Spanish pronto.....and like it a lot. |
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On Thu, 31 May 2007 13:48:24 -0700, jps wrote:
In article , jherring1 says... On Wed, 30 May 2007 10:24:20 -0400, HK wrote: Jim wrote: "HK" wrote in message . .. JoeSpareBedroom wrote: "HK" wrote in message . .. GALLUP NEWS SERVICE PRINCETON, NJ -- The latest Gallup panel survey finds the public bracing for continued rising gas prices this summer. A majority of poll respondents expect gas prices to reach the $4.00 per gallon level in their local area this summer, though only a small minority expects it to reach the $5.00 mark. Roughly two in three Americans say they have already been affected financially in some meaningful way by the high gas prices. The public most often mentions oil company greed as the reason for the high gas prices, though it also mentions other more practical reasons such as problems with refineries. They'll mention whatever the talking heads tell them to mention as reasons. Remember "increased demand in China"? That's the reason I heard for the latest run-up. Same thing last year. But, when the price dropped last year, nobody said "decreased demand in China". I don't listen any more. The only info I'd believe would come from Rex Tillerson, who was being waterboarded in return for real details about the pricing scheme. All other explanations thus far are an insult to our intelligence. The "problems with refineries" reason is a tad too predictable. There's no reason to doubt "refinery" and big oil greed, though. It's pretty hard to ignore big oil's announcement of record profits every quarter. Maybe it's time to sell the boat and buy Exxon Mobil stock. Jim Maybe it is time to elect a president who gives a damn about those with middle or lower class incomes. We've had six and a half years of corporate payoff in the White House. It's time to make sure the public's interest is represented in such key, high-cost to the public industries as oil and health care. Yes, the president sets gas prices. Bumper sticker brain. Some things just don't change. Tell me if this make sense... Under this president and administration, the oil companies know that they'll benefit from the sort of oversight afforded a regular golf partner who likes to kick his ball out of the rough. Stock holders won't benefit, just the cocksuckers running things. jps Please tell me why the Democrats have done nothing about it. They control Congress. Why've they not pinpointed the problem with all their hearings? Or, are they in on the scam? BTW, stockholders have and do benefit - greatly! |
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In article , jherring1
@yahoo.com says... On Thu, 31 May 2007 13:48:24 -0700, jps wrote: In article , jherring1 says... On Wed, 30 May 2007 10:24:20 -0400, HK wrote: Jim wrote: "HK" wrote in message . .. JoeSpareBedroom wrote: "HK" wrote in message . .. GALLUP NEWS SERVICE PRINCETON, NJ -- The latest Gallup panel survey finds the public bracing for continued rising gas prices this summer. A majority of poll respondents expect gas prices to reach the $4.00 per gallon level in their local area this summer, though only a small minority expects it to reach the $5.00 mark. Roughly two in three Americans say they have already been affected financially in some meaningful way by the high gas prices. The public most often mentions oil company greed as the reason for the high gas prices, though it also mentions other more practical reasons such as problems with refineries. They'll mention whatever the talking heads tell them to mention as reasons. Remember "increased demand in China"? That's the reason I heard for the latest run-up. Same thing last year. But, when the price dropped last year, nobody said "decreased demand in China". I don't listen any more. The only info I'd believe would come from Rex Tillerson, who was being waterboarded in return for real details about the pricing scheme. All other explanations thus far are an insult to our intelligence. The "problems with refineries" reason is a tad too predictable. There's no reason to doubt "refinery" and big oil greed, though. It's pretty hard to ignore big oil's announcement of record profits every quarter. Maybe it's time to sell the boat and buy Exxon Mobil stock. Jim Maybe it is time to elect a president who gives a damn about those with middle or lower class incomes. We've had six and a half years of corporate payoff in the White House. It's time to make sure the public's interest is represented in such key, high-cost to the public industries as oil and health care. Yes, the president sets gas prices. Bumper sticker brain. Some things just don't change. Tell me if this make sense... Under this president and administration, the oil companies know that they'll benefit from the sort of oversight afforded a regular golf partner who likes to kick his ball out of the rough. Stock holders won't benefit, just the cocksuckers running things. jps Please tell me why the Democrats have done nothing about it. They control Congress. Why've they not pinpointed the problem with all their hearings? Or, are they in on the scam? BTW, stockholders have and do benefit - greatly! Let's start by saying that the Democrats have their hands full trying to bring this ****ed up administration under control. Plus, they're a bunch of spineless pussies. Each party turns their heads based on who funds them. Industry has a (non-exclusive) friend in the Republicans based on their penchant for "free market" enterprise. Democrats drink at other wells. They're all on someone's bankroll. Have you seen how much it costs to fund a campaign? The system is ****ed. However, let's get back on point. Energy has a friend in this administration. It's the reason we're in Iraq, the reason Enron debacle wasn't a surprise, the reason oil companies are enjoying their greatest profits in history. The Democrats are only slightly less corrupt. If you want to change the system, support campaign finance reform. Nothing is going to change until we find a different way to finance elections. jps |
Bend Over for 'Big' Oil
"Gene Kearns" wrote in message
... On Thu, 31 May 2007 19:55:18 GMT, JoeSpareBedroom penned the following well considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats: "John H." wrote in message . .. On Thu, 31 May 2007 14:42:46 -0400, Gene Kearns wrote: On 31 May 2007 18:05:45 GMT, "Fred Garvin, Male Prostitute" wrote: All these companies are far more profitable than you are, and they are 100% dependent on the buying decisions of consumers. So are you more envious of the successful, or disdainful of your fellow citizens? My wife teaches middle school. She has students that tell her that she can teach them nothing worthwhile, since they can make more money on a street corner in a weekend than she makes in a month. They are neither lying nor exaggerating. They are much more profitable than she is, but she thinks they are wrong. So, should I tell her that she is mere envious of the more successful, or just disdainful of her students? You should tell her she has one of the most difficult jobs in the world. The fact that she can put up with it, day after day, is a testament to her patience. I lasted only ten years, by which time I was totally sick of 8th graders. Everybody wave the flag and get out your hankies. Trust me, been there, done that, bought the T-shirt........ he deserves credit..... I just spent the evening with a bunch of REAL teachers - the ones who were able to put up with their kids for more than 10 years. I have zero sympathy for John's troubles with teaching. |
Bend Over for 'Big' Oil
"Gene Kearns" wrote in message
... On Fri, 01 Jun 2007 01:31:03 GMT, JoeSpareBedroom penned the following well considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats: I just spent the evening with a bunch of REAL teachers - the ones who were able to put up with their kids for more than 10 years. I have zero sympathy for John's troubles with teaching. I've been in the business for 34 years. There are a lot of variables. Lacking an administration that has sufficient male genitalia to actually administrate.... 10 years is a lifetime. Perhaps assertiveness training should be a requirement for students training to be teachers. |
Bend Over for 'Big' Oil
"Gene Kearns" wrote in message
... On Fri, 01 Jun 2007 02:02:06 GMT, JoeSpareBedroom penned the following well considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats: "Gene Kearns" wrote in message . .. On Fri, 01 Jun 2007 01:31:03 GMT, JoeSpareBedroom penned the following well considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats: I just spent the evening with a bunch of REAL teachers - the ones who were able to put up with their kids for more than 10 years. I have zero sympathy for John's troubles with teaching. I've been in the business for 34 years. There are a lot of variables. Lacking an administration that has sufficient male genitalia to actually administrate.... 10 years is a lifetime. Perhaps assertiveness training should be a requirement for students training to be teachers. Assertiveness isn't a problem for teachers. Administrators that see themselves only as good will ambassadors to the community need the training. I remember a distinct attitude among my best teachers (late 1960s): **** the community. Take care of the students. |
Bend Over for 'Big' Oil
"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message ... "John H." wrote in message ... On Thu, 31 May 2007 14:42:46 -0400, Gene Kearns wrote: On 31 May 2007 18:05:45 GMT, "Fred Garvin, Male Prostitute" wrote: All these companies are far more profitable than you are, and they are 100% dependent on the buying decisions of consumers. So are you more envious of the successful, or disdainful of your fellow citizens? My wife teaches middle school. She has students that tell her that she can teach them nothing worthwhile, since they can make more money on a street corner in a weekend than she makes in a month. They are neither lying nor exaggerating. They are much more profitable than she is, but she thinks they are wrong. So, should I tell her that she is mere envious of the more successful, or just disdainful of her students? I lasted only ten years, by which time I was totally sick of 8th graders. Everybody wave the flag and get out your hankies. I think a group of 4th graders would eventually be able to intimidate the old man to the point of him begging to teach preschoolers. No wonder he retired. |
Bend Over for 'Big' Oil
"Gene Kearns" wrote in message
... On Fri, 01 Jun 2007 02:21:10 GMT, JoeSpareBedroom penned the following well considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats: "Gene Kearns" wrote in message . .. On Fri, 01 Jun 2007 02:02:06 GMT, JoeSpareBedroom penned the following well considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats: "Gene Kearns" wrote in message m... On Fri, 01 Jun 2007 01:31:03 GMT, JoeSpareBedroom penned the following well considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats: I just spent the evening with a bunch of REAL teachers - the ones who were able to put up with their kids for more than 10 years. I have zero sympathy for John's troubles with teaching. I've been in the business for 34 years. There are a lot of variables. Lacking an administration that has sufficient male genitalia to actually administrate.... 10 years is a lifetime. Perhaps assertiveness training should be a requirement for students training to be teachers. Assertiveness isn't a problem for teachers. Administrators that see themselves only as good will ambassadors to the community need the training. I remember a distinct attitude among my best teachers (late 1960s): **** the community. Take care of the students. I remember a cleansing of those same teachers in the mid 70's to early 80's...... they are gone...... many, without a retirement. A big *thanks* for their years of service and commitment..... I assume that was in a school district where your kids went to school. Why was there a purge? |
Bend Over for 'Big' Oil
On Thu, 31 May 2007 21:56:28 -0400, Gene Kearns
wrote: I will bet that if you were around a group of teachers with more than 10 years experience, you were in a small percentage of teachers in that system There are 74 teachers in our local school public school system (not including high school). Out of 74 teachers, 45 have over twenty years experience in that same school system and an additional 8 have over twenty years experience total. |
Bend Over for 'Big' Oil
JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"Gene Kearns" wrote in message ... On Fri, 01 Jun 2007 02:21:10 GMT, JoeSpareBedroom penned the following well considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats: "Gene Kearns" wrote in message ... On Fri, 01 Jun 2007 02:02:06 GMT, JoeSpareBedroom penned the following well considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats: "Gene Kearns" wrote in message ... On Fri, 01 Jun 2007 01:31:03 GMT, JoeSpareBedroom penned the following well considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats: I just spent the evening with a bunch of REAL teachers - the ones who were able to put up with their kids for more than 10 years. I have zero sympathy for John's troubles with teaching. I've been in the business for 34 years. There are a lot of variables. Lacking an administration that has sufficient male genitalia to actually administrate.... 10 years is a lifetime. Perhaps assertiveness training should be a requirement for students training to be teachers. Assertiveness isn't a problem for teachers. Administrators that see themselves only as good will ambassadors to the community need the training. I remember a distinct attitude among my best teachers (late 1960s): **** the community. Take care of the students. I remember a cleansing of those same teachers in the mid 70's to early 80's...... they are gone...... many, without a retirement. A big *thanks* for their years of service and commitment..... I assume that was in a school district where your kids went to school. Why was there a purge? Why, to find more compliant workers and to screw veteran teachers out of a retirement. This is Amerika, remember? Workers are disposable. |
Bend Over for 'Big' Oil
JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"Gene Kearns" wrote in message ... On Fri, 01 Jun 2007 02:21:10 GMT, JoeSpareBedroom penned the following well considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats: "Gene Kearns" wrote in message ... On Fri, 01 Jun 2007 02:02:06 GMT, JoeSpareBedroom penned the following well considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats: "Gene Kearns" wrote in message ... On Fri, 01 Jun 2007 01:31:03 GMT, JoeSpareBedroom penned the following well considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats: I just spent the evening with a bunch of REAL teachers - the ones who were able to put up with their kids for more than 10 years. I have zero sympathy for John's troubles with teaching. I've been in the business for 34 years. There are a lot of variables. Lacking an administration that has sufficient male genitalia to actually administrate.... 10 years is a lifetime. Perhaps assertiveness training should be a requirement for students training to be teachers. Assertiveness isn't a problem for teachers. Administrators that see themselves only as good will ambassadors to the community need the training. I remember a distinct attitude among my best teachers (late 1960s): **** the community. Take care of the students. I remember a cleansing of those same teachers in the mid 70's to early 80's...... they are gone...... many, without a retirement. A big *thanks* for their years of service and commitment..... I assume that was in a school district where your kids went to school. Why was there a purge? Political correctness. There was a major shift in thinking in teaching in the late 60's and early 70's that was not for the better. Feel gooder's and whiner's took over the public education system and started turning out students that felt good about being know nothing idiots. |
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"BAR" wrote in message
. .. JoeSpareBedroom wrote: "Gene Kearns" wrote in message ... On Fri, 01 Jun 2007 02:21:10 GMT, JoeSpareBedroom penned the following well considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats: "Gene Kearns" wrote in message ... On Fri, 01 Jun 2007 02:02:06 GMT, JoeSpareBedroom penned the following well considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats: "Gene Kearns" wrote in message ... On Fri, 01 Jun 2007 01:31:03 GMT, JoeSpareBedroom penned the following well considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats: I just spent the evening with a bunch of REAL teachers - the ones who were able to put up with their kids for more than 10 years. I have zero sympathy for John's troubles with teaching. I've been in the business for 34 years. There are a lot of variables. Lacking an administration that has sufficient male genitalia to actually administrate.... 10 years is a lifetime. Perhaps assertiveness training should be a requirement for students training to be teachers. Assertiveness isn't a problem for teachers. Administrators that see themselves only as good will ambassadors to the community need the training. I remember a distinct attitude among my best teachers (late 1960s): **** the community. Take care of the students. I remember a cleansing of those same teachers in the mid 70's to early 80's...... they are gone...... many, without a retirement. A big *thanks* for their years of service and commitment..... I assume that was in a school district where your kids went to school. Why was there a purge? Political correctness. There was a major shift in thinking in teaching in the late 60's and early 70's that was not for the better. Feel gooder's and whiner's took over the public education system and started turning out students that felt good about being know nothing idiots. I hear this broad generalization a lot, but I'm closely acquainted with 3 school systems (now, not my own ancient history), and I just don't see it. Now, I assume (correctly) that when I hear someone say this, it's because they heard it from some talk show blubber ass. |
Bend Over for 'Big' Oil
"John H." wrote in message
... On Fri, 01 Jun 2007 02:21:10 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: "Gene Kearns" wrote in message . .. On Fri, 01 Jun 2007 02:02:06 GMT, JoeSpareBedroom penned the following well considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats: "Gene Kearns" wrote in message m... On Fri, 01 Jun 2007 01:31:03 GMT, JoeSpareBedroom penned the following well considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats: I just spent the evening with a bunch of REAL teachers - the ones who were able to put up with their kids for more than 10 years. I have zero sympathy for John's troubles with teaching. I've been in the business for 34 years. There are a lot of variables. Lacking an administration that has sufficient male genitalia to actually administrate.... 10 years is a lifetime. Perhaps assertiveness training should be a requirement for students training to be teachers. Assertiveness isn't a problem for teachers. Administrators that see themselves only as good will ambassadors to the community need the training. I remember a distinct attitude among my best teachers (late 1960s): **** the community. Take care of the students. Times have changed. School boards are elected. School boards hire superintendents, who hire and fire principals, who react to parents, who call their local school board member. I haven't seen this problem. Give me examples. Why do parents call, and about what? |
Bend Over for 'Big' Oil
"John H." wrote in message
... I remember a distinct attitude among my best teachers (late 1960s): **** the community. Take care of the students. Times have changed. School boards are elected. School boards hire superintendents, who hire and fire principals, who react to parents, who call their local school board member. I haven't seen this problem. Give me examples. Why do parents call, and about what? No. I've better things to do than write examples. If you live in a district without elected school boards who hire superintendents who hire principals who react to parents who vote for the school board, then it would be an exercise in futility to explain how the system works. You have no problem finding the time to dump meaningless little messages here all day long. Give up 10 of those for a day, and you'll have the time to explain what you're talking about. Otherwise, we will assume you have NO examples. |
Bend Over for 'Big' Oil
JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"John H." wrote in message ... I remember a distinct attitude among my best teachers (late 1960s): **** the community. Take care of the students. Times have changed. School boards are elected. School boards hire superintendents, who hire and fire principals, who react to parents, who call their local school board member. I haven't seen this problem. Give me examples. Why do parents call, and about what? No. I've better things to do than write examples. If you live in a district without elected school boards who hire superintendents who hire principals who react to parents who vote for the school board, then it would be an exercise in futility to explain how the system works. You have no problem finding the time to dump meaningless little messages here all day long. Give up 10 of those for a day, and you'll have the time to explain what you're talking about. Otherwise, we will assume you have NO examples. Crikey, Herring really is an ignorant ass. When I was in public school back in the dark ages, we had an elected school board responsible for hiring the superintendent of schools. He thinks this is something new? The Northern Virginia schools are better off without a racist ass like Herring. I recall his constant whining about the black kids he had to teach and the noisy Hispanics who lived down the block. He should have stayed in the Army. |
Bend Over for 'Big' Oil
"John H." wrote in message
... On Fri, 01 Jun 2007 08:13:52 -0400, HK wrote: JoeSpareBedroom wrote: "John H." wrote in message ... I remember a distinct attitude among my best teachers (late 1960s): **** the community. Take care of the students. Times have changed. School boards are elected. School boards hire superintendents, who hire and fire principals, who react to parents, who call their local school board member. I haven't seen this problem. Give me examples. Why do parents call, and about what? No. I've better things to do than write examples. If you live in a district without elected school boards who hire superintendents who hire principals who react to parents who vote for the school board, then it would be an exercise in futility to explain how the system works. You have no problem finding the time to dump meaningless little messages here all day long. Give up 10 of those for a day, and you'll have the time to explain what you're talking about. Otherwise, we will assume you have NO examples. Crikey, Herring really is an ignorant ass. When I was in public school back in the dark ages, we had an elected school board responsible for hiring the superintendent of schools. He thinks this is something new? The Northern Virginia schools are better off without a racist ass like Herring. I recall his constant whining about the black kids he had to teach and the noisy Hispanics who lived down the block. He should have stayed in the Army. Harrie, you are *such* a neat guy! It's no wonder you're adored by so many! There goes 15 seconds wasted, when you could've posted something useful. |
Bend Over for 'Big' Oil
"John H." wrote in message
... On Fri, 01 Jun 2007 11:59:08 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: "John H." wrote in message . .. I remember a distinct attitude among my best teachers (late 1960s): **** the community. Take care of the students. Times have changed. School boards are elected. School boards hire superintendents, who hire and fire principals, who react to parents, who call their local school board member. I haven't seen this problem. Give me examples. Why do parents call, and about what? No. I've better things to do than write examples. If you live in a district without elected school boards who hire superintendents who hire principals who react to parents who vote for the school board, then it would be an exercise in futility to explain how the system works. You have no problem finding the time to dump meaningless little messages here all day long. Give up 10 of those for a day, and you'll have the time to explain what you're talking about. Otherwise, we will assume you have NO examples. Assume away! Another 15 seconds.... |
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