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"John H." wrote in message
... On Wed, 30 May 2007 17:55:03 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: "John H." wrote in message . .. On Wed, 30 May 2007 17:47:46 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: "John H." wrote in message m... On Wed, 30 May 2007 17:42:07 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: "John H." wrote in message news:s5hr539jn76a8mm73j5cfuogq0fbvoduvp@4ax. com... On Wed, 30 May 2007 13:28:30 -0400, Gene Kearns wrote: On Wed, 30 May 2007 13:03:41 -0500, John H. wrote: Horse pucky. Wal Mart has been a target of the liberals, like Harry and the major media, because it won't unionize. That is the only complaint that you have heard about walmart? Now, I gotta issue a horse pucky alert! Check out some of these non-union issues: http://walmar****ch.com/issues/ Trust me, in the 22 states with right-to-work laws, walmart sucks just as bad as they do elsewhere. Oh my gosh! A purely non biased organization whose sole function is to keep an eye on Wal Mart? Wow, I wonder who funds it. The exact same information has also been in the newspaper your wife reads, and then places under your easy chair to catch the mess. Now why would you resort to personal attacks? Probably for the same reason you do. When the soap opera pauses for a commercial, think about it. I suppose if I felt backed into a corner I may do the same. Your refusal to take any conversation seriously is insulting, and therefore, a personal attack on anyone else in a discussion. I gave your comments the attention they deserved. .....which earned you the response you WANTED. |
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On Wed, 30 May 2007 14:19:02 -0400, Gene Kearns
wrote: On Wed, 30 May 2007 13:43:15 -0500, John H. wrote: You've picked a winner, Gene. Who he is doesn't mean that he is wrong.... unless you are trying to say that a person's political affiliation determines the veracity of their statements. You're correct. Even Harry sometimes gets one right. Like I said, you've picked a winner. |
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On Wed, 30 May 2007 14:23:11 -0400, HK wrote:
Gene Kearns wrote: On Wed, 30 May 2007 13:43:15 -0500, John H. wrote: You've picked a winner, Gene. Who he is doesn't mean that he is wrong.... unless you are trying to say that a person's political affiliation determines the veracity of their statements. That's everything to someone like Herring. He's one of five remaining voters who still supports Bush's war against Iraq. Harrie, you are just too cool for words. Thanks again for your contribution. |
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On Wed, 30 May 2007 17:55:03 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote: "John H." wrote in message .. . On Wed, 30 May 2007 17:47:46 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: "John H." wrote in message ... On Wed, 30 May 2007 17:42:07 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: "John H." wrote in message om... On Wed, 30 May 2007 13:28:30 -0400, Gene Kearns wrote: On Wed, 30 May 2007 13:03:41 -0500, John H. wrote: Horse pucky. Wal Mart has been a target of the liberals, like Harry and the major media, because it won't unionize. That is the only complaint that you have heard about walmart? Now, I gotta issue a horse pucky alert! Check out some of these non-union issues: http://walmar****ch.com/issues/ Trust me, in the 22 states with right-to-work laws, walmart sucks just as bad as they do elsewhere. Oh my gosh! A purely non biased organization whose sole function is to keep an eye on Wal Mart? Wow, I wonder who funds it. The exact same information has also been in the newspaper your wife reads, and then places under your easy chair to catch the mess. Now why would you resort to personal attacks? Probably for the same reason you do. When the soap opera pauses for a commercial, think about it. I suppose if I felt backed into a corner I may do the same. Your refusal to take any conversation seriously is insulting, and therefore, a personal attack on anyone else in a discussion. I gave your comments the attention they deserved. |
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Gene Kearns wrote:
On Wed, 30 May 2007 14:36:20 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote: You people are pointing your fingers at the wrong culprit. Wal-Mart is popular and successful because they carry what people want at prices that people want to pay. So, who's at fault? Excellent point and a related argument. People favoring walmart do so only with a selfish respect for their own pocketbook.... never considering what is best for the American Worker, the American Consumer, and the American Economy. Gene, Most economist would tell you that the selfish respect for their own pocketbook is actually the best thing for the American Worker, the American Consumer and the American Economy. |
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Fred Garvin, Male Prostitute wrote:
In message , Gene Kearns sprach forth the following: People favoring walmart do so only with a selfish respect for their own pocketbook. More proof that liberals hate the poor. I have to disagree with you on this matter, Gene is recommending what he believes to be the best thing for the poor and our economy, it just doesn't match up with most economist would tell you. |
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"HK" wrote in message . .. GALLUP NEWS SERVICE PRINCETON, NJ -- The latest Gallup panel survey finds the public bracing for continued rising gas prices this summer. A majority of poll respondents expect gas prices to reach the $4.00 per gallon level in their local area this summer, though only a small minority expects it to reach the $5.00 mark. The *opinion* of those poll respondents on future gasoline prices is absolutely meaningless. |
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"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message ... "John H." wrote in message ... On Wed, 30 May 2007 16:47:23 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: "Fred Garvin, Male Prostitute" wrote in message . .. In message , JoeSpareBedroom sprach forth the following: "Fred Garvin, Male Prostitute" wrote in message ... In message , JoeSpareBedroom sprach forth the following: "Fred Garvin, Male Prostitute" wrote in message ... In message , JoeSpareBedroom sprach forth the following: Would you agree that the 3 entities below have created public impressions that are hard to change? 1) Wal Mart 2) Used car dealers 3) Law firms Wal Mart has more customers than any business in the world. Used car dealers don't make any money unless they attract customers either. Lawyers are the primary contributors to Democrats. You're not much of a dancer. No, I demonstrated that you have contempt for success and supplication for the John Edwardses of the world. You demonstrated that once again, you've danced around someone's question because to answer it honestly, you'd step in quicksand. Your question was an AVOIDANCE NON-ANSWER TO TO QUESTIONS I POSED. No it was not. The point was that every business creates its image, or as Harry pointed out, earns it, for better or worse. The 3 in the list are perfect examples. Wal Mart's got a miserable reputation with as many people as those who love the place. Used car dealers are seen as snakes, much the same as lawyers. You are fully aware of all this. The major oil companies are no different. They offer us bull**** explanations for the price swings. If you kids gave you similar answers, there would be consequences, assuming you were a competent parent. Horse pucky. Wal Mart has been a target of the liberals, like Harry and the major media, because it won't unionize. I don't give a damn about their union situation. I'm talking about the customer experience, and the fact they they lie about their prices, and that "made in America" charade. I have never had a problem with their pricing and purchase from them quite regularly. |
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JimH wrote:
"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message ... "John H." wrote in message ... On Wed, 30 May 2007 16:47:23 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: "Fred Garvin, Male Prostitute" wrote in message ... In message , JoeSpareBedroom sprach forth the following: "Fred Garvin, Male Prostitute" wrote in message ... In message , JoeSpareBedroom sprach forth the following: "Fred Garvin, Male Prostitute" wrote in message ... In message , JoeSpareBedroom sprach forth the following: Would you agree that the 3 entities below have created public impressions that are hard to change? 1) Wal Mart 2) Used car dealers 3) Law firms Wal Mart has more customers than any business in the world. Used car dealers don't make any money unless they attract customers either. Lawyers are the primary contributors to Democrats. You're not much of a dancer. No, I demonstrated that you have contempt for success and supplication for the John Edwardses of the world. You demonstrated that once again, you've danced around someone's question because to answer it honestly, you'd step in quicksand. Your question was an AVOIDANCE NON-ANSWER TO TO QUESTIONS I POSED. No it was not. The point was that every business creates its image, or as Harry pointed out, earns it, for better or worse. The 3 in the list are perfect examples. Wal Mart's got a miserable reputation with as many people as those who love the place. Used car dealers are seen as snakes, much the same as lawyers. You are fully aware of all this. The major oil companies are no different. They offer us bull**** explanations for the price swings. If you kids gave you similar answers, there would be consequences, assuming you were a competent parent. Horse pucky. Wal Mart has been a target of the liberals, like Harry and the major media, because it won't unionize. I don't give a damn about their union situation. I'm talking about the customer experience, and the fact they they lie about their prices, and that "made in America" charade. I have never had a problem with their pricing and purchase from them quite regularly. I never have a problem with wal-mart, either. I simply never shop there, and I hold my nose when I drive by a stooperstore of theirs in another county...all those badly handled perishable groceries and the crappy fast food they fry permeates the local atmosphere there. |
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"HK" wrote in message . .. JimH wrote: "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message ... "John H." wrote in message ... On Wed, 30 May 2007 16:47:23 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: "Fred Garvin, Male Prostitute" wrote in message ... In message , JoeSpareBedroom sprach forth the following: "Fred Garvin, Male Prostitute" wrote in message ... In message , JoeSpareBedroom sprach forth the following: "Fred Garvin, Male Prostitute" wrote in message ... In message , JoeSpareBedroom sprach forth the following: Would you agree that the 3 entities below have created public impressions that are hard to change? 1) Wal Mart 2) Used car dealers 3) Law firms Wal Mart has more customers than any business in the world. Used car dealers don't make any money unless they attract customers either. Lawyers are the primary contributors to Democrats. You're not much of a dancer. No, I demonstrated that you have contempt for success and supplication for the John Edwardses of the world. You demonstrated that once again, you've danced around someone's question because to answer it honestly, you'd step in quicksand. Your question was an AVOIDANCE NON-ANSWER TO TO QUESTIONS I POSED. No it was not. The point was that every business creates its image, or as Harry pointed out, earns it, for better or worse. The 3 in the list are perfect examples. Wal Mart's got a miserable reputation with as many people as those who love the place. Used car dealers are seen as snakes, much the same as lawyers. You are fully aware of all this. The major oil companies are no different. They offer us bull**** explanations for the price swings. If you kids gave you similar answers, there would be consequences, assuming you were a competent parent. Horse pucky. Wal Mart has been a target of the liberals, like Harry and the major media, because it won't unionize. I don't give a damn about their union situation. I'm talking about the customer experience, and the fact they they lie about their prices, and that "made in America" charade. I have never had a problem with their pricing and purchase from them quite regularly. I never have a problem with wal-mart, either. I simply never shop there, and I hold my nose when I drive by a stooperstore of theirs in another county...all those badly handled perishable groceries and the crappy fast food they fry permeates the local atmosphere there. Ours does not sell perishable groceries and we purchase all of ours through a locally owned grocery store or neighborhood stands (veggies) during the summer. No fast food at ours either. The employees are not in handcuffs at their workstations and are normally cordial and happy. If you never shop at your local Wal-Mart how do you know the perishables are 'poor handled' and that the fast food is 'crappy'? I am not trying to start an argument with you but you are obviously against them because the employees who work at their stores do not want to unionize. BTW: My son is a union employee working part time at the local grocery store we shop at. ;-) |
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HK wrote:
JimH wrote: "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message ... "John H." wrote in message ... On Wed, 30 May 2007 16:47:23 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: "Fred Garvin, Male Prostitute" wrote in message ... In message , JoeSpareBedroom sprach forth the following: "Fred Garvin, Male Prostitute" wrote in message ... In message , JoeSpareBedroom sprach forth the following: "Fred Garvin, Male Prostitute" wrote in message ... In message , JoeSpareBedroom sprach forth the following: Would you agree that the 3 entities below have created public impressions that are hard to change? 1) Wal Mart 2) Used car dealers 3) Law firms Wal Mart has more customers than any business in the world. Used car dealers don't make any money unless they attract customers either. Lawyers are the primary contributors to Democrats. You're not much of a dancer. No, I demonstrated that you have contempt for success and supplication for the John Edwardses of the world. You demonstrated that once again, you've danced around someone's question because to answer it honestly, you'd step in quicksand. Your question was an AVOIDANCE NON-ANSWER TO TO QUESTIONS I POSED. No it was not. The point was that every business creates its image, or as Harry pointed out, earns it, for better or worse. The 3 in the list are perfect examples. Wal Mart's got a miserable reputation with as many people as those who love the place. Used car dealers are seen as snakes, much the same as lawyers. You are fully aware of all this. The major oil companies are no different. They offer us bull**** explanations for the price swings. If you kids gave you similar answers, there would be consequences, assuming you were a competent parent. Horse pucky. Wal Mart has been a target of the liberals, like Harry and the major media, because it won't unionize. I don't give a damn about their union situation. I'm talking about the customer experience, and the fact they they lie about their prices, and that "made in America" charade. I have never had a problem with their pricing and purchase from them quite regularly. I never have a problem with wal-mart, either. I simply never shop there, and I hold my nose when I drive by a stooperstore of theirs in another county...all those badly handled perishable groceries and the crappy fast food they fry permeates the local atmosphere there. I very rarely shop at Wal-Mart, but when I have been in the store I have found their product to range from good to above average |
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JimH wrote:
"HK" wrote in message . .. JimH wrote: "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message ... "John H." wrote in message ... On Wed, 30 May 2007 16:47:23 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: "Fred Garvin, Male Prostitute" wrote in message ... In message , JoeSpareBedroom sprach forth the following: "Fred Garvin, Male Prostitute" wrote in message ... In message , JoeSpareBedroom sprach forth the following: "Fred Garvin, Male Prostitute" wrote in message ... In message , JoeSpareBedroom sprach forth the following: Would you agree that the 3 entities below have created public impressions that are hard to change? 1) Wal Mart 2) Used car dealers 3) Law firms Wal Mart has more customers than any business in the world. Used car dealers don't make any money unless they attract customers either. Lawyers are the primary contributors to Democrats. You're not much of a dancer. No, I demonstrated that you have contempt for success and supplication for the John Edwardses of the world. You demonstrated that once again, you've danced around someone's question because to answer it honestly, you'd step in quicksand. Your question was an AVOIDANCE NON-ANSWER TO TO QUESTIONS I POSED. No it was not. The point was that every business creates its image, or as Harry pointed out, earns it, for better or worse. The 3 in the list are perfect examples. Wal Mart's got a miserable reputation with as many people as those who love the place. Used car dealers are seen as snakes, much the same as lawyers. You are fully aware of all this. The major oil companies are no different. They offer us bull**** explanations for the price swings. If you kids gave you similar answers, there would be consequences, assuming you were a competent parent. Horse pucky. Wal Mart has been a target of the liberals, like Harry and the major media, because it won't unionize. I don't give a damn about their union situation. I'm talking about the customer experience, and the fact they they lie about their prices, and that "made in America" charade. I have never had a problem with their pricing and purchase from them quite regularly. I never have a problem with wal-mart, either. I simply never shop there, and I hold my nose when I drive by a stooperstore of theirs in another county...all those badly handled perishable groceries and the crappy fast food they fry permeates the local atmosphere there. Ours does not sell perishable groceries and we purchase all of ours through a locally owned grocery store or neighborhood stands (veggies) during the summer. No fast food at ours either. The employees are not in handcuffs at their workstations and are normally cordial and happy. If you never shop at your local Wal-Mart how do you know the perishables are 'poor handled' and that the fast food is 'crappy'? I am not trying to start an argument with you but you are obviously against them because the employees who work at their stores do not want to unionize. BTW: My son is a union employee working part time at the local grocery store we shop at. ;-) Because Wal-Mart fresh food operations (meat, poultry, produce, fish -at the stoooperstores) are frequently cited for sanitary and safety violations. The fast food? I can sometimes smell it as I drive by. It's mostly fried garbage. My issues with Wal-Mart go far beyond its so far successful attempts to keep its employees from unionizing. Hell, I was a small part of the successful effort around here to keep out a Wal-Mart stooperstore. We have three large supermarket chain stores in the area, plus at least three indys. The chain stores are competitive and don't have the ongoing sanitation problems. The indys cater to the carriage trade and charge higher prices. One of them has absolutely the best dairy-based clam chowder I have ever had. I asked the fish guy there about it, and he says it is prepared fresh daily by his cousin, who does not work for the store. There's nothing I want to buy that Wal-Mart sells that I can't buy somewhere else at a competitive price. |
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On 30 May 2007 16:41:09 GMT, "Fred Garvin, Male Prostitute"
wrote: In message , Short Wave Sportfishing sprach forth the following: On 30 May 2007 13:31:42 GMT, "Fred Garvin, Male Prostitute" wrote: 2. Are you proud that public opinion is being shaped using the same media techniques ESPN has uses to demonize Barry Bonds? Barry Bonds deserves demonization. Why? Make sure your answer includes the names "Bud Selig", Accomplice to criminal activity and the lousiest Commissioner ever. "Mark McGwire", Cheater and should have his records deleted. "Jason Giambi", Liar. "Gary Sheffield", Punk. "Rafael Palmeiro", Liar. Deserved what he got. "Lance Armstrong", Greatest athlete of his time. "Sammy Sosa", Cheater. "Gary Matthews Jr.", Jerk. "Ty Cobb", Drunken lout. "Babe Ruth", Drunken philanderer. "Ray Lewis", Murderer. "Tank Johnson" Should be banned from football. and "Michael Vick". Should be thrown into a pit with his dogs and let him fight his way out. Not to mention being thrown out of the NFL forever. And you forgot MLB Player Unions (criminal negligence in ignoring druge abuse), the NFL (criminal negligence for concussions), the NBA (drug abuse) the NHL (for ruining the game). Any more I didn't think of wise guy? |
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On Wed, 30 May 2007 06:36:30 -0400, HK wrote:
GALLUP NEWS SERVICE PRINCETON, NJ -- The latest Gallup panel survey finds the public bracing for continued rising gas prices this summer. A majority of poll respondents expect gas prices to reach the $4.00 per gallon level in their local area this summer, though only a small minority expects it to reach the $5.00 mark. Roughly two in three Americans say they have already been affected financially in some meaningful way by the high gas prices. The public most often mentions oil company greed as the reason for the high gas prices, though it also mentions other more practical reasons such as problems with refineries. People may say they are affected financially by the high price of gas but judging from the traffic around here and the type of cars in that traffic, they haven't actually started using any less. How high will gas have to go before people start using less? $5/gal? $6/gal? Whatever that price is, the law of supply and demand says that's where it should be. Right now, we're getting a bargain. Steve |
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"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message ... On 30 May 2007 16:41:09 GMT, "Fred Garvin, Male Prostitute" wrote: In message , Short Wave Sportfishing sprach forth the following: On 30 May 2007 13:31:42 GMT, "Fred Garvin, Male Prostitute" wrote: 2. Are you proud that public opinion is being shaped using the same media techniques ESPN has uses to demonize Barry Bonds? Barry Bonds deserves demonization. Why? Make sure your answer includes the names "Bud Selig", Accomplice to criminal activity and the lousiest Commissioner ever. "Mark McGwire", Cheater and should have his records deleted. "Jason Giambi", Liar. "Gary Sheffield", Punk. "Rafael Palmeiro", Liar. Deserved what he got. "Lance Armstrong", Greatest athlete of his time. "Sammy Sosa", Cheater. "Gary Matthews Jr.", Jerk. "Ty Cobb", Drunken lout. "Babe Ruth", Drunken philanderer. "Ray Lewis", Murderer. "Tank Johnson" Should be banned from football. and "Michael Vick". Should be thrown into a pit with his dogs and let him fight his way out. Not to mention being thrown out of the NFL forever. And you forgot MLB Player Unions (criminal negligence in ignoring druge abuse), the NFL (criminal negligence for concussions), the NBA (drug abuse) the NHL (for ruining the game). Any more I didn't think of wise guy? Shoeless Joe Jackson? |
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John H. wrote:
On Wed, 30 May 2007 16:47:23 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: "Fred Garvin, Male Prostitute" wrote in message ... In message , JoeSpareBedroom sprach forth the following: "Fred Garvin, Male Prostitute" wrote in message ... In message , JoeSpareBedroom sprach forth the following: "Fred Garvin, Male Prostitute" wrote in message ... In message , JoeSpareBedroom sprach forth the following: Would you agree that the 3 entities below have created public impressions that are hard to change? 1) Wal Mart 2) Used car dealers 3) Law firms Wal Mart has more customers than any business in the world. Used car dealers don't make any money unless they attract customers either. Lawyers are the primary contributors to Democrats. You're not much of a dancer. No, I demonstrated that you have contempt for success and supplication for the John Edwardses of the world. You demonstrated that once again, you've danced around someone's question because to answer it honestly, you'd step in quicksand. Your question was an AVOIDANCE NON-ANSWER TO TO QUESTIONS I POSED. No it was not. The point was that every business creates its image, or as Harry pointed out, earns it, for better or worse. The 3 in the list are perfect examples. Wal Mart's got a miserable reputation with as many people as those who love the place. Used car dealers are seen as snakes, much the same as lawyers. You are fully aware of all this. The major oil companies are no different. They offer us bull**** explanations for the price swings. If you kids gave you similar answers, there would be consequences, assuming you were a competent parent. Horse pucky. Wal Mart has been a target of the liberals, like Harry and the major media, because it won't unionize. Hillary Clinton was on the Wal Mart Board til 94. She's "Free Trade" She's Globalization as are all the other Liberals. They only have a liberal agenda to attract their votes. No:"Free Trade" is not about free trade. Did you ever hear her champion unionization during that time? |
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On Wed, 30 May 2007 19:52:18 -0400, "D.Duck" wrote:
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message .. . On 30 May 2007 16:41:09 GMT, "Fred Garvin, Male Prostitute" wrote: In message , Short Wave Sportfishing sprach forth the following: On 30 May 2007 13:31:42 GMT, "Fred Garvin, Male Prostitute" wrote: 2. Are you proud that public opinion is being shaped using the same media techniques ESPN has uses to demonize Barry Bonds? Barry Bonds deserves demonization. Why? Make sure your answer includes the names "Bud Selig", Accomplice to criminal activity and the lousiest Commissioner ever. "Mark McGwire", Cheater and should have his records deleted. "Jason Giambi", Liar. "Gary Sheffield", Punk. "Rafael Palmeiro", Liar. Deserved what he got. "Lance Armstrong", Greatest athlete of his time. "Sammy Sosa", Cheater. "Gary Matthews Jr.", Jerk. "Ty Cobb", Drunken lout. "Babe Ruth", Drunken philanderer. "Ray Lewis", Murderer. "Tank Johnson" Should be banned from football. and "Michael Vick". Should be thrown into a pit with his dogs and let him fight his way out. Not to mention being thrown out of the NFL forever. And you forgot MLB Player Unions (criminal negligence in ignoring druge abuse), the NFL (criminal negligence for concussions), the NBA (drug abuse) the NHL (for ruining the game). Any more I didn't think of wise guy? Shoeless Joe Jackson? Shoeless. :) |
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On Wed, 30 May 2007 16:41:14 -0400, HK wrote:
JimH wrote: "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message ... "John H." wrote in message ... On Wed, 30 May 2007 16:47:23 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: "Fred Garvin, Male Prostitute" wrote in message ... In message , JoeSpareBedroom sprach forth the following: "Fred Garvin, Male Prostitute" wrote in message ... In message , JoeSpareBedroom sprach forth the following: "Fred Garvin, Male Prostitute" wrote in message ... In message , JoeSpareBedroom sprach forth the following: Would you agree that the 3 entities below have created public impressions that are hard to change? 1) Wal Mart 2) Used car dealers 3) Law firms Wal Mart has more customers than any business in the world. Used car dealers don't make any money unless they attract customers either. Lawyers are the primary contributors to Democrats. You're not much of a dancer. No, I demonstrated that you have contempt for success and supplication for the John Edwardses of the world. You demonstrated that once again, you've danced around someone's question because to answer it honestly, you'd step in quicksand. Your question was an AVOIDANCE NON-ANSWER TO TO QUESTIONS I POSED. No it was not. The point was that every business creates its image, or as Harry pointed out, earns it, for better or worse. The 3 in the list are perfect examples. Wal Mart's got a miserable reputation with as many people as those who love the place. Used car dealers are seen as snakes, much the same as lawyers. You are fully aware of all this. The major oil companies are no different. They offer us bull**** explanations for the price swings. If you kids gave you similar answers, there would be consequences, assuming you were a competent parent. Horse pucky. Wal Mart has been a target of the liberals, like Harry and the major media, because it won't unionize. I don't give a damn about their union situation. I'm talking about the customer experience, and the fact they they lie about their prices, and that "made in America" charade. I have never had a problem with their pricing and purchase from them quite regularly. I never have a problem with wal-mart, either. I simply never shop there, and I hold my nose when I drive by a stooperstore of theirs in another county...all those badly handled perishable groceries and the crappy fast food they fry permeates the local atmosphere there. Harry, take a quick trip to Stoney's on Broomes Island and tell me the smells coming from the exhaust vents are better than the ones from the McDonalds in your local Wal Mart. |
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"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message ... On Wed, 30 May 2007 19:52:18 -0400, "D.Duck" wrote: "Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message . .. On 30 May 2007 16:41:09 GMT, "Fred Garvin, Male Prostitute" wrote: In message , Short Wave Sportfishing sprach forth the following: On 30 May 2007 13:31:42 GMT, "Fred Garvin, Male Prostitute" wrote: 2. Are you proud that public opinion is being shaped using the same media techniques ESPN has uses to demonize Barry Bonds? Barry Bonds deserves demonization. Why? Make sure your answer includes the names "Bud Selig", Accomplice to criminal activity and the lousiest Commissioner ever. "Mark McGwire", Cheater and should have his records deleted. "Jason Giambi", Liar. "Gary Sheffield", Punk. "Rafael Palmeiro", Liar. Deserved what he got. "Lance Armstrong", Greatest athlete of his time. "Sammy Sosa", Cheater. "Gary Matthews Jr.", Jerk. "Ty Cobb", Drunken lout. "Babe Ruth", Drunken philanderer. "Ray Lewis", Murderer. "Tank Johnson" Should be banned from football. and "Michael Vick". Should be thrown into a pit with his dogs and let him fight his way out. Not to mention being thrown out of the NFL forever. And you forgot MLB Player Unions (criminal negligence in ignoring druge abuse), the NFL (criminal negligence for concussions), the NBA (drug abuse) the NHL (for ruining the game). Any more I didn't think of wise guy? Shoeless Joe Jackson? Shoeless. :) You must have heard of the Black Sox scandal. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shoeless_Joe_Jackson |
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HK wrote:
JoeSpareBedroom wrote: "Fred Garvin, Male Prostitute" wrote in message ... In message , JoeSpareBedroom sprach forth the following: Would you agree that the 3 entities below have created public impressions that are hard to change? 1) Wal Mart 2) Used car dealers 3) Law firms Wal Mart has more customers than any business in the world. Used car dealers don't make any money unless they attract customers either. Lawyers are the primary contributors to Democrats. You're not much of a dancer. He apparently has four right feet, which is why he lives in my bozo bin, along with the rest of the intellectually challenged. Narcissism - again. |
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On 31 May 2007 00:26:42 GMT, "Fred Garvin, Male Prostitute"
wrote: Yeah, dumbass. Barry Bonds. I think I've already stated my position with respect to Barry "Cheater" Bonds. Oh, and might I add that you do a really great Basskisser imitation. A tad over the top with the language, then again most folks with Tourette's can't help themselves. So I'll just put you in that category and forgive you because you just can't help it. |
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On May 30, 8:14 pm, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On 31 May 2007 00:26:42 GMT, "Fred Garvin, Male Prostitute" wrote: Yeah, dumbass. Barry Bonds. I think I've already stated my position with respect to Barry "Cheater" Bonds. Oh, and might I add that you do a really great Basskisser imitation. A tad over the top with the language, then again most folks with Tourette's can't help themselves. Tom, it takes a lot more language than that to meet up to the standards or "double standards, of whom you are making Fred a comparison to. |
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On May 30, 8:54 pm, Tim wrote:
Oh, and might I add that you do a really great Basskisser imitation. A tad over the top with the language, then again most folks with Tourette's can't help themselves. Tom, it takes a lot more language than that to meet up to the standards or "double standards, of whom you are making Fred a comparison to. Ok, now he's getting closer: On May 30, 7:25 pm, "Fred Garvin, Male Prostitute" wrote: He advertises a show by a dead guy and *I'm* an idiot for correcting that? **** off, dickbreath.- |
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On Wed, 30 May 2007 18:55:44 -0500, binky wrote:
John H. wrote: On Wed, 30 May 2007 16:47:23 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: "Fred Garvin, Male Prostitute" wrote in message ... In message , JoeSpareBedroom sprach forth the following: "Fred Garvin, Male Prostitute" wrote in message ... In message , JoeSpareBedroom sprach forth the following: "Fred Garvin, Male Prostitute" wrote in message ... In message , JoeSpareBedroom sprach forth the following: Would you agree that the 3 entities below have created public impressions that are hard to change? 1) Wal Mart 2) Used car dealers 3) Law firms Wal Mart has more customers than any business in the world. Used car dealers don't make any money unless they attract customers either. Lawyers are the primary contributors to Democrats. You're not much of a dancer. No, I demonstrated that you have contempt for success and supplication for the John Edwardses of the world. You demonstrated that once again, you've danced around someone's question because to answer it honestly, you'd step in quicksand. Your question was an AVOIDANCE NON-ANSWER TO TO QUESTIONS I POSED. No it was not. The point was that every business creates its image, or as Harry pointed out, earns it, for better or worse. The 3 in the list are perfect examples. Wal Mart's got a miserable reputation with as many people as those who love the place. Used car dealers are seen as snakes, much the same as lawyers. You are fully aware of all this. The major oil companies are no different. They offer us bull**** explanations for the price swings. If you kids gave you similar answers, there would be consequences, assuming you were a competent parent. Horse pucky. Wal Mart has been a target of the liberals, like Harry and the major media, because it won't unionize. Hillary Clinton was on the Wal Mart Board til 94. She's "Free Trade" She's Globalization as are all the other Liberals. They only have a liberal agenda to attract their votes. No:"Free Trade" is not about free trade. Did you ever hear her champion unionization during that time? This is not a political thread. It is a thread about the fishing equipment bargains at your local Wal Mart. |
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Gene Kearns wrote:
On Wed, 30 May 2007 16:10:36 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III" wrote: Gene, Most economist would tell you that the selfish respect for their own pocketbook is actually the best thing for the American Worker, the American Consumer and the American Economy. I guess my response, then, is that we have yet another group of advisors that are educated far beyond their intelligence. Walmart abandoned the "Made in America" philosophy when Sam Walton died... and as far as I am concerned walmart died with him. There is no way that sending thousands of jobs overseas and billions of dollars overseas is good for America or Americans. I can't, for the life of me, understand the change in the American spirit..... when we proudly bought the best goods available.... and were able to own and maintain those tools for many years. We now buy cheap, crappy, made in China junk that is quickly used up and fills our landfills. The net result of this is a 20 BILLIION dollar PER MONTH balance of trade deficit with China which they have turned around to be holders of about 25% (last I heard) of the US's total debt. Every time you shop at walmart, just know that you are increasing the national debt to China and cutting another American out of the potential for earning some part of that purchase price. This is not a closed economy. A selfish respect for one's own pocketbook does not mean that you are doing the right thing by your country or your countrymen. This isn't news.... it is just a shoe on the other foot. We ought to be smart enough not to fall victim to the practices and policies that filled the American coffers out of other countries poor business deals. Apparently, we are not. It's far worse than you imagine. Most of the food items imported from China are not properly inspected at the Chinese end and of course with the cuts here in the FDA, not much in the way of inspections here, either. It'll be interesting to watch the reactions to Chinese goods when a few hundred or thousand Americans die because of tainted food from China. Wal-Mart will have a special sale in its deep south stores to clear out the merch. |
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Gene Kearns wrote:
On Wed, 30 May 2007 16:10:36 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III" wrote: Gene, Most economist would tell you that the selfish respect for their own pocketbook is actually the best thing for the American Worker, the American Consumer and the American Economy. I guess my response, then, is that we have yet another group of advisors that are educated far beyond their intelligence. Walmart abandoned the "Made in America" philosophy when Sam Walton died... and as far as I am concerned walmart died with him. There is no way that sending thousands of jobs overseas and billions of dollars overseas is good for America or Americans. I can't, for the life of me, understand the change in the American spirit..... when we proudly bought the best goods available.... and were able to own and maintain those tools for many years. We now buy cheap, crappy, made in China junk that is quickly used up and fills our landfills. The net result of this is a 20 BILLIION dollar PER MONTH balance of trade deficit with China which they have turned around to be holders of about 25% (last I heard) of the US's total debt. Every time you shop at walmart, just know that you are increasing the national debt to China and cutting another American out of the potential for earning some part of that purchase price. This is not a closed economy. A selfish respect for one's own pocketbook does not mean that you are doing the right thing by your country or your countrymen. This isn't news.... it is just a shoe on the other foot. We ought to be smart enough not to fall victim to the practices and policies that filled the American coffers out of other countries poor business deals. Apparently, we are not. Gene, The economist would tell you that short term their will be problems with displaced workers, but in the long run, the best thing for America and Americans is for all American's to have a selfish respect for one's own pocketbook. They would tell you if we can not be competitive with 3rd world countries, we need to find a product or service that we can be competitive and place our resources producing those goods or services. The idea of tariff's (wither imposed by the govt. or self imposed like you are suggesting) has never been in the best interest of anyone or any country, and in the long run will harm the citizens and country of anyone who imposes them. Your comment about buying the best goods available is the reason why Toyota is the number one mfg'ers of automobiles in the US. Wither it is true or not, many people believe Toyota is a better auto. |
Bend Over for 'Big' Oil
On Thu, 31 May 2007 08:32:39 -0400, Gene Kearns
wrote: On Wed, 30 May 2007 16:10:36 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III" wrote: Gene, Most economist would tell you that the selfish respect for their own pocketbook is actually the best thing for the American Worker, the American Consumer and the American Economy. I guess my response, then, is that we have yet another group of advisors that are educated far beyond their intelligence. Walmart abandoned the "Made in America" philosophy when Sam Walton died... and as far as I am concerned walmart died with him. There is no way that sending thousands of jobs overseas and billions of dollars overseas is good for America or Americans. I can't, for the life of me, understand the change in the American spirit..... when we proudly bought the best goods available.... and were able to own and maintain those tools for many years. We now buy cheap, crappy, made in China junk that is quickly used up and fills our landfills. The net result of this is a 20 BILLIION dollar PER MONTH balance of trade deficit with China which they have turned around to be holders of about 25% (last I heard) of the US's total debt. Every time you shop at walmart, just know that you are increasing the national debt to China and cutting another American out of the potential for earning some part of that purchase price. This is not a closed economy. A selfish respect for one's own pocketbook does not mean that you are doing the right thing by your country or your countrymen. This isn't news.... it is just a shoe on the other foot. We ought to be smart enough not to fall victim to the practices and policies that filled the American coffers out of other countries poor business deals. Apparently, we are not. Well, you'd have to say the same for Penny's, Macy's, Sears, and the Dollar Store. Maybe you'd change the country, but the principle would remain. Yet, I see no liberals raising hell about Penny's! |
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"HK" wrote in message ... Gene Kearns wrote: On Wed, 30 May 2007 16:10:36 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III" wrote: Gene, Most economist would tell you that the selfish respect for their own pocketbook is actually the best thing for the American Worker, the American Consumer and the American Economy. I guess my response, then, is that we have yet another group of advisors that are educated far beyond their intelligence. Walmart abandoned the "Made in America" philosophy when Sam Walton died... and as far as I am concerned walmart died with him. There is no way that sending thousands of jobs overseas and billions of dollars overseas is good for America or Americans. I can't, for the life of me, understand the change in the American spirit..... when we proudly bought the best goods available.... and were able to own and maintain those tools for many years. We now buy cheap, crappy, made in China junk that is quickly used up and fills our landfills. The net result of this is a 20 BILLIION dollar PER MONTH balance of trade deficit with China which they have turned around to be holders of about 25% (last I heard) of the US's total debt. Every time you shop at walmart, just know that you are increasing the national debt to China and cutting another American out of the potential for earning some part of that purchase price. This is not a closed economy. A selfish respect for one's own pocketbook does not mean that you are doing the right thing by your country or your countrymen. This isn't news.... it is just a shoe on the other foot. We ought to be smart enough not to fall victim to the practices and policies that filled the American coffers out of other countries poor business deals. Apparently, we are not. It's far worse than you imagine. Most of the food items imported from China are not properly inspected at the Chinese end and of course with the cuts here in the FDA, not much in the way of inspections here, either. It'll be interesting to watch the reactions to Chinese goods when a few hundred or thousand Americans die because of tainted food from China. Wal-Mart will have a special sale in its deep south stores to clear out the merch. The labor unions priced us out of the free market. We are in a downward spiral with little left in the US to labor on. We need to become a producer of goods again, and the only way that will happen is if the unions leave the US and invade foreign countries. Failing that, learn to speak Chinese and Spanish. You can't lay this one on Bush. Jim |
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Jim wrote:
"HK" wrote in message ... Gene Kearns wrote: On Wed, 30 May 2007 16:10:36 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III" wrote: Gene, Most economist would tell you that the selfish respect for their own pocketbook is actually the best thing for the American Worker, the American Consumer and the American Economy. I guess my response, then, is that we have yet another group of advisors that are educated far beyond their intelligence. Walmart abandoned the "Made in America" philosophy when Sam Walton died... and as far as I am concerned walmart died with him. There is no way that sending thousands of jobs overseas and billions of dollars overseas is good for America or Americans. I can't, for the life of me, understand the change in the American spirit..... when we proudly bought the best goods available.... and were able to own and maintain those tools for many years. We now buy cheap, crappy, made in China junk that is quickly used up and fills our landfills. The net result of this is a 20 BILLIION dollar PER MONTH balance of trade deficit with China which they have turned around to be holders of about 25% (last I heard) of the US's total debt. Every time you shop at walmart, just know that you are increasing the national debt to China and cutting another American out of the potential for earning some part of that purchase price. This is not a closed economy. A selfish respect for one's own pocketbook does not mean that you are doing the right thing by your country or your countrymen. This isn't news.... it is just a shoe on the other foot. We ought to be smart enough not to fall victim to the practices and policies that filled the American coffers out of other countries poor business deals. Apparently, we are not. It's far worse than you imagine. Most of the food items imported from China are not properly inspected at the Chinese end and of course with the cuts here in the FDA, not much in the way of inspections here, either. It'll be interesting to watch the reactions to Chinese goods when a few hundred or thousand Americans die because of tainted food from China. Wal-Mart will have a special sale in its deep south stores to clear out the merch. The labor unions priced us out of the free market. We are in a downward spiral with little left in the US to labor on. We need to become a producer of goods again, and the only way that will happen is if the unions leave the US and invade foreign countries. Ahh, yes, Americans should be willing to work for 10 cents an hour, like the workers in Vietnam and China. Yeah, that's the ticket to prosperity. |
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"Jim" wrote in message
link.net... The labor unions priced us out of the free market. Way too big a generalization. All the labor unions, in all industries? We're going to need specific financials for lots of companies. You have until 4:30 PM Eastern time. |
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"Gene Kearns" wrote in message
... I am really confused by people considering themselves "conservatives" that stand up for Communist China and their trading partners in the US. The most common rationalization I've seen is that money is the best way to "bring China around". Since it's still a communist dictatorship, they clearly have not been "brought around". Having said that, I suppose this all depends on how one defines "bring them around". Perhaps the final goal is simply to make them a supplier, and never mind that the government isn't much better than when Mao was in power. We have a long history of doing business with (or giving military support to) countries with hideous forms of government. |
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"HK" wrote in message ... Jim wrote: "HK" wrote in message ... Gene Kearns wrote: On Wed, 30 May 2007 16:10:36 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III" wrote: Gene, Most economist would tell you that the selfish respect for their own pocketbook is actually the best thing for the American Worker, the American Consumer and the American Economy. I guess my response, then, is that we have yet another group of advisors that are educated far beyond their intelligence. Walmart abandoned the "Made in America" philosophy when Sam Walton died... and as far as I am concerned walmart died with him. There is no way that sending thousands of jobs overseas and billions of dollars overseas is good for America or Americans. I can't, for the life of me, understand the change in the American spirit..... when we proudly bought the best goods available.... and were able to own and maintain those tools for many years. We now buy cheap, crappy, made in China junk that is quickly used up and fills our landfills. The net result of this is a 20 BILLIION dollar PER MONTH balance of trade deficit with China which they have turned around to be holders of about 25% (last I heard) of the US's total debt. Every time you shop at walmart, just know that you are increasing the national debt to China and cutting another American out of the potential for earning some part of that purchase price. This is not a closed economy. A selfish respect for one's own pocketbook does not mean that you are doing the right thing by your country or your countrymen. This isn't news.... it is just a shoe on the other foot. We ought to be smart enough not to fall victim to the practices and policies that filled the American coffers out of other countries poor business deals. Apparently, we are not. It's far worse than you imagine. Most of the food items imported from China are not properly inspected at the Chinese end and of course with the cuts here in the FDA, not much in the way of inspections here, either. It'll be interesting to watch the reactions to Chinese goods when a few hundred or thousand Americans die because of tainted food from China. Wal-Mart will have a special sale in its deep south stores to clear out the merch. The labor unions priced us out of the free market. We are in a downward spiral with little left in the US to labor on. We need to become a producer of goods again, and the only way that will happen is if the unions leave the US and invade foreign countries. Ahh, yes, Americans should be willing to work for 10 cents an hour, like the workers in Vietnam and China. Yeah, that's the ticket to prosperity. None of these characters ever attacks the outrageous wages/bonuses paid to the corporate elite...even when they don't perform and lead the companies on the downward spiral. |
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Don White wrote:
"HK" wrote in message ... Jim wrote: "HK" wrote in message ... Gene Kearns wrote: On Wed, 30 May 2007 16:10:36 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III" wrote: Gene, Most economist would tell you that the selfish respect for their own pocketbook is actually the best thing for the American Worker, the American Consumer and the American Economy. I guess my response, then, is that we have yet another group of advisors that are educated far beyond their intelligence. Walmart abandoned the "Made in America" philosophy when Sam Walton died... and as far as I am concerned walmart died with him. There is no way that sending thousands of jobs overseas and billions of dollars overseas is good for America or Americans. I can't, for the life of me, understand the change in the American spirit..... when we proudly bought the best goods available.... and were able to own and maintain those tools for many years. We now buy cheap, crappy, made in China junk that is quickly used up and fills our landfills. The net result of this is a 20 BILLIION dollar PER MONTH balance of trade deficit with China which they have turned around to be holders of about 25% (last I heard) of the US's total debt. Every time you shop at walmart, just know that you are increasing the national debt to China and cutting another American out of the potential for earning some part of that purchase price. This is not a closed economy. A selfish respect for one's own pocketbook does not mean that you are doing the right thing by your country or your countrymen. This isn't news.... it is just a shoe on the other foot. We ought to be smart enough not to fall victim to the practices and policies that filled the American coffers out of other countries poor business deals. Apparently, we are not. It's far worse than you imagine. Most of the food items imported from China are not properly inspected at the Chinese end and of course with the cuts here in the FDA, not much in the way of inspections here, either. It'll be interesting to watch the reactions to Chinese goods when a few hundred or thousand Americans die because of tainted food from China. Wal-Mart will have a special sale in its deep south stores to clear out the merch. The labor unions priced us out of the free market. We are in a downward spiral with little left in the US to labor on. We need to become a producer of goods again, and the only way that will happen is if the unions leave the US and invade foreign countries. Ahh, yes, Americans should be willing to work for 10 cents an hour, like the workers in Vietnam and China. Yeah, that's the ticket to prosperity. None of these characters ever attacks the outrageous wages/bonuses paid to the corporate elite...even when they don't perform and lead the companies on the downward spiral. It's part of being self-satisfied, smug conservatrash. (c.f., Herring, Smithers, and the rest of the assholes here) |
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"HK" wrote in message ... Jim wrote: "HK" wrote in message ... Gene Kearns wrote: On Wed, 30 May 2007 16:10:36 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III" wrote: Gene, Most economist would tell you that the selfish respect for their own pocketbook is actually the best thing for the American Worker, the American Consumer and the American Economy. I guess my response, then, is that we have yet another group of advisors that are educated far beyond their intelligence. Walmart abandoned the "Made in America" philosophy when Sam Walton died... and as far as I am concerned walmart died with him. There is no way that sending thousands of jobs overseas and billions of dollars overseas is good for America or Americans. I can't, for the life of me, understand the change in the American spirit..... when we proudly bought the best goods available.... and were able to own and maintain those tools for many years. We now buy cheap, crappy, made in China junk that is quickly used up and fills our landfills. The net result of this is a 20 BILLIION dollar PER MONTH balance of trade deficit with China which they have turned around to be holders of about 25% (last I heard) of the US's total debt. Every time you shop at walmart, just know that you are increasing the national debt to China and cutting another American out of the potential for earning some part of that purchase price. This is not a closed economy. A selfish respect for one's own pocketbook does not mean that you are doing the right thing by your country or your countrymen. This isn't news.... it is just a shoe on the other foot. We ought to be smart enough not to fall victim to the practices and policies that filled the American coffers out of other countries poor business deals. Apparently, we are not. It's far worse than you imagine. Most of the food items imported from China are not properly inspected at the Chinese end and of course with the cuts here in the FDA, not much in the way of inspections here, either. It'll be interesting to watch the reactions to Chinese goods when a few hundred or thousand Americans die because of tainted food from China. Wal-Mart will have a special sale in its deep south stores to clear out the merch. The labor unions priced us out of the free market. We are in a downward spiral with little left in the US to labor on. We need to become a producer of goods again, and the only way that will happen is if the unions leave the US and invade foreign countries. Ahh, yes, Americans should be willing to work for 10 cents an hour, like the workers in Vietnam and China. Yeah, that's the ticket to prosperity. No Kiddin! $.10 They need the unions more than I thought. How can our unions benefit us long term? Collective bargaining doesn't seem to be working for us anymore. |
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"Fred Garvin, Male Prostitute" wrote in message
... In message , Gene Kearns sprach forth the following: I still think it is the wrong thing to do to trade with companies that increase the national debt to China and cut other Americans out of the potential for earning some part of that purchase price. Not everyone can afford a $3,000 Viking fridge. If the manufacture of a $500 made-in-Mexico refrigerator was transferred back here, what do you estimate it would cost? I posed this question to Lands' End about their $30 men's dress shirts, now made overseas, and they said "We can't disclose that information". ??? |
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"John H." wrote in message
... On Thu, 31 May 2007 10:14:01 -0400, Gene Kearns wrote: On Thu, 31 May 2007 09:05:08 -0500, John H. wrote: On Thu, 31 May 2007 08:32:39 -0400, Gene Kearns wrote: On Wed, 30 May 2007 16:10:36 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III" wrote: Gene, Most economist would tell you that the selfish respect for their own pocketbook is actually the best thing for the American Worker, the American Consumer and the American Economy. I guess my response, then, is that we have yet another group of advisors that are educated far beyond their intelligence. Walmart abandoned the "Made in America" philosophy when Sam Walton died... and as far as I am concerned walmart died with him. There is no way that sending thousands of jobs overseas and billions of dollars overseas is good for America or Americans. I can't, for the life of me, understand the change in the American spirit..... when we proudly bought the best goods available.... and were able to own and maintain those tools for many years. We now buy cheap, crappy, made in China junk that is quickly used up and fills our landfills. The net result of this is a 20 BILLIION dollar PER MONTH balance of trade deficit with China which they have turned around to be holders of about 25% (last I heard) of the US's total debt. Every time you shop at walmart, just know that you are increasing the national debt to China and cutting another American out of the potential for earning some part of that purchase price. This is not a closed economy. A selfish respect for one's own pocketbook does not mean that you are doing the right thing by your country or your countrymen. This isn't news.... it is just a shoe on the other foot. We ought to be smart enough not to fall victim to the practices and policies that filled the American coffers out of other countries poor business deals. Apparently, we are not. Well, you'd have to say the same for Penny's, Macy's, Sears, and the Dollar Store. Maybe you'd change the country, but the principle would remain. Yet, I see no liberals raising hell about Penny's! I don't think it has anything with being "liberal" or not.... I don't consider myself a "liberal." I think is has to do with walmart being the worst of the worst. I don't shop at any of the stores above. I used to proudly shop at Sears and buy the "best" item, knowing that I could probably keep it for many years. Long before I knew of walmart... somewhere in the 80's I guess, Sears started buying foreign made junk and I stopped trading with them. I still think it is the wrong thing to do to trade with companies that increase the national debt to China and cut other Americans out of the potential for earning some part of that purchase price. I am really confused by people considering themselves "conservatives" that stand up for Communist China and their trading partners in the US. Perhaps you could show me an example of 'standing up for Communist China'. Su Buying from them. Very simple. |
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"John H." wrote in message
... Perhaps you could show me an example of 'standing up for Communist China'. Su Buying from them. Very simple. I would love to hear you say you buy nothing made in China, including components. Assuming I have a choice, and I'm aware of where something's made, I buy as little as possible from China. You probably find that odd, the idea of reading labels. |
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JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"John H." wrote in message ... Perhaps you could show me an example of 'standing up for Communist China'. Su Buying from them. Very simple. I would love to hear you say you buy nothing made in China, including components. Assuming I have a choice, and I'm aware of where something's made, I buy as little as possible from China. You probably find that odd, the idea of reading labels. I don't knowingly buy anything made in the PRC. Sometimes you can't avoid it, or you find out about it after the sale. |
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"HK" wrote in message . .. JoeSpareBedroom wrote: "John H." wrote in message ... Perhaps you could show me an example of 'standing up for Communist China'. Su Buying from them. Very simple. I would love to hear you say you buy nothing made in China, including components. Assuming I have a choice, and I'm aware of where something's made, I buy as little as possible from China. You probably find that odd, the idea of reading labels. I don't knowingly buy anything made in the PRC. Sometimes you can't avoid it, or you find out about it after the sale. The world is changing. We have a much more global economy. Isolationism is a thing of the past. Don't get stuck in the mud. Eisboch |
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"RCE" wrote in message
... "HK" wrote in message . .. JoeSpareBedroom wrote: "John H." wrote in message ... Perhaps you could show me an example of 'standing up for Communist China'. Su Buying from them. Very simple. I would love to hear you say you buy nothing made in China, including components. Assuming I have a choice, and I'm aware of where something's made, I buy as little as possible from China. You probably find that odd, the idea of reading labels. I don't knowingly buy anything made in the PRC. Sometimes you can't avoid it, or you find out about it after the sale. The world is changing. We have a much more global economy. Isolationism is a thing of the past. Don't get stuck in the mud. Eisboch For me, it's not isolationism. I don't like supporting dictatorships. It's that simple. Chinese workers are not major beneficiaries of our business. Factory owners are the winners, and they're almost always chosen based on party allegiances. |
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