"wf3h" wrote in message
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HK wrote:


Our national energy policy, whatever it is (it's a secret) was
established by Dick Cheney in 2001 during a series of meetings with oil
industry executives.w


what i love about this is, when ira magaziner and hilary clintion
tried to get us universal health care

To which office was Hillary elected to in 1992?

Then what right did she have to make policy that would have destroyed the
healthcare system for 260,000,000 Americans with insurance so that
40,000,000 uninsured could get access?

On Tue, 08 May 2007 03:13:45 GMT, "NOYB" wrote:


"wf3h" wrote in message
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HK wrote:


Our national energy policy, whatever it is (it's a secret) was
established by Dick Cheney in 2001 during a series of meetings with oil
industry executives.w

what i love about this is, when ira magaziner and hilary clintion
tried to get us universal health care

To which office was Hillary elected to in 1992?

Then what right did she have to make policy that would have destroyed the
healthcare system for 260,000,000 Americans with insurance so that
40,000,000 uninsured could get access?

I have a great Hillary story.

Back when she was put in "charge" (read Ira Magaziner was in charge -
Hillary was just his mouth piece), they had an open Town Meeting in
New London to solicite public comments. I was invited by Sam "The
Man" Gedenjson who was then the Congressman from the 2nd District
which included my town. (I was invited by virtue of some veterens
work I had some with Sam and the VA - probably the only thing he ever
did as a Congressman that actually had some impact).

So, we're at the meeting, there about 150 people, about half senior
citizens. During the participatory part, this little old lady stands
up at the microphone and asked the following question (paraphrased).

"Can you tell me how your proposal will reduce my and my husband's
prescription costs, doctor's cost and my husbands stroke therapy
payments?"

This was Hillary's exact response.

"I only deal in policy, I don't deal in specifics".

Yep. Never made the news either. :)

"NOYB" wrote in message
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"wf3h" wrote in message
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HK wrote:


Our national energy policy, whatever it is (it's a secret) was
established by Dick Cheney in 2001 during a series of meetings with oil
industry executives.w


what i love about this is, when ira magaziner and hilary clintion
tried to get us universal health care

To which office was Hillary elected to in 1992?

Then what right did she have to make policy that would have destroyed the
healthcare system for 260,000,000 Americans with insurance so that
40,000,000 uninsured could get access?


Good question. I'll pair it with another one: To which office was Manucher
Ghorbanifar elected to? What right does he have to try and influence our
policies?

Or, to simplify this for you: Do you think our policy makers speak to
absolutely nobody that wasn't elected?

NOYB wrote:
"wf3h" wrote in message

what i love about this is, when ira magaziner and hilary clintion
tried to get us universal health care

To which office was Hillary elected to in 1992?

to the office she was appointed to by the president of the USA. ever
hear of THAT office?

Then what right did she have to make policy that would have destroyed the
healthcare system for 260,000,000 Americans with insurance so that
40,000,000 uninsured could get access?

and when DID you stop beating your wife? incidentally, 300,000,000
americans use energy....that dick cheney feels so deeply belongs only
to the rich.

On 8 May 2007 16:10:29 -0700, wf3h wrote:


NOYB wrote:
"wf3h" wrote in message

what i love about this is, when ira magaziner and hilary clintion
tried to get us universal health care

To which office was Hillary elected to in 1992?

to the office she was appointed to by the president of the USA. ever
hear of THAT office?

Then what right did she have to make policy that would have destroyed the
healthcare system for 260,000,000 Americans with insurance so that
40,000,000 uninsured could get access?

and when DID you stop beating your wife? incidentally, 300,000,000
americans use energy....that dick cheney feels so deeply belongs only
to the rich.

Speaking of big numbers:

The next time you hear a politician use the word "billion" in a casual
manner, think about whether you want the "politicians" spending your tax
money.


A billion is a difficult number to comprehend, but one advertising agency
did a good job of putting that figure into some perspective in one of its
releases.


A. A billion seconds ago it was 1959.

B. A billion minutes ago Jesus was alive.

C. A billion hours ago our ancestors were living in the Stone Age.

D. A billion days ago no-one walked on the earth on two feet.

E. A billion dollars ago was only 8 hours and 20 minutes, at the rate our
government is spending it.

While this thought is still fresh in our brain, let's take a look at New
Orleans . It's amazing what you can learn with some simple division . . .

Louisiana Senator, Mary Landrieu (D), is presently asking the Congress for
$250 BILLION to rebuild New Orleans. Interesting number, what does it mean?

a. Well, if you are one of 484,674 residents of New Orleans (every man,
woman, child), you each get $516,528.

b. Or, if you have one of the 188,251 homes in New Orleans , your home gets
$1,329,787.

c. Or, if you are a family of four, your family gets $2,066,012.

Washington, D.C. ... HELLO!!! . Are all your calculators broken??

This is too true to be very funny


1. Number of Illegal Aliens in the Country 20,807,645
2. Money Wired to Mexico City since January, 2006 $22,213,001,672.00
3. Cost of Social Security Services for Illegal Aliens since 1996

$397,450,739,563.00
4. Number of Children of Illegal Aliens in Public Schools 3,958,789
5. Cost of Illegal Aliens in K-12 Since 1996: $13, 965,063,431.00
6. Number of Illegal Aliens Incarcerated 332,594
7. Cost of Incarcerations Since 2001 $1,398,127,429.00
8. Number of Illegal Aliens Fugitives 642,799
9. Skilled Jobs Taken by Illegal Aliens 9,872,838


Figures can trick your eyes. Take particular note that items 2,3,5, and 7
reflect BILLION not millions of dollars -- and that item 3 exceeds
one-third of a TRILLION dollars.
Can you imagine how much it will cost taxpayers if we triple the number of
Illegals entering this country!!

"wf3h" wrote in message
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NOYB wrote:
"wf3h" wrote in message

what i love about this is, when ira magaziner and hilary clintion
tried to get us universal health care

To which office was Hillary elected to in 1992?

to the office she was appointed to by the president of the USA. ever
hear of THAT office?

No, what's the name of it?

(And I asked about the office she was *elected* to in 1992)


Then what right did she have to make policy that would have destroyed the
healthcare system for 260,000,000 Americans with insurance so that
40,000,000 uninsured could get access?

and when DID you stop beating your wife? incidentally, 300,000,000
americans use energy....that dick cheney feels so deeply belongs only
to the rich.


85% of this country is getting along just fine with the health insurance
that they have, but the Democrats want to muck things up for them in order
to benefit the 15% who are uninsured. Smells of socialism to me. And it
stinks.

If you want socialism, move to the EU.

On Wed, 09 May 2007 16:31:06 +0000, NOYB wrote:


85% of this country is getting along just fine with the health insurance
that they have,

Really? 85% may be insured, but that doesn't mean they are getting along
just fine. I found one poll that suggests health care cost is the
country's biggest worry.

http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=581677

Our health care system accounts for over 15% GDP. Funny, but those
countries with universal health care have costs around 10% GDP, or less.
That 5% puts us at a considerable disadvantage in the global market
place. You may not have noticed, but many companies have. General
Motors, for instance, has been expanding it's operations in Canada, while
shrinking them here. Want to guess the reason?

http://www.counterpunch.org/lindorff04192005.html



but the Democrats want to muck things up for them in
order to benefit the 15% who are uninsured. Smells of socialism to me.
And it stinks.

If you want socialism, move to the EU.

"thunder" wrote in message
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On Wed, 09 May 2007 16:31:06 +0000, NOYB wrote:


85% of this country is getting along just fine with the health insurance
that they have,

Really? 85% may be insured, but that doesn't mean they are getting along
just fine. I found one poll that suggests health care cost is the
country's biggest worry.

http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=581677

Our health care system accounts for over 15% GDP. Funny, but those
countries with universal health care have costs around 10% GDP, or less.
That 5% puts us at a considerable disadvantage in the global market
place. You may not have noticed, but many companies have. General
Motors, for instance, has been expanding it's operations in Canada, while
shrinking them here. Want to guess the reason?

http://www.counterpunch.org/lindorff04192005.html



We need to control court/jury awards on malpractice and other medical
lawsuits. If that is not controlled then you can forget about other plans.

"thunder" wrote in message

General
Motors, for instance, has been expanding it's operations in Canada, while
shrinking them here. Want to guess the reason?

I know you want to claim the answer is "health insurance"...but the real
answer is "unions".

Once GM and Ford and Chrysler shut their factories here, and move them
abroad, they'll be out from under the unions. And then, 10 years from now,
you can bet that they'll open new union-free operations stateside again.

On Thu, 10 May 2007 04:56:14 +0000, NOYB wrote:

"thunder" wrote in message

General
Motors, for instance, has been expanding it's operations in Canada,
while shrinking them here. Want to guess the reason?

I know you want to claim the answer is "health insurance"...but the real
answer is "unions".

Once GM and Ford and Chrysler shut their factories here, and move them
abroad, they'll be out from under the unions. And then, 10 years from
now, you can bet that they'll open new union-free operations stateside
again.

Come on, NOYB, we were talking about Canada. Your union excuse doesn't
fly. Ever hear of the Canadian Auto Workers? They split from the UAW
because they are more militant, and didn't like the UAW's give-backs.

Oh, and just so you don't think I'm making this up, Google Rick Wagoner.
He is the one who said health care costs are wrecking the US economy.