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On Fri, 04 May 2007 13:40:41 +0000, Bo wrote:
How about William Gray? Just curious, do you Doctor shop, also? I'm sure you can find several more, well credentialed, scientists to tell you what you want to hear, but do you really want to listen? |
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"thunder" wrote in message ... On Fri, 04 May 2007 13:40:41 +0000, Bo wrote: How about William Gray? Just curious, do you Doctor shop, also? I'm sure you can find several more, well credentialed, scientists to tell you what you want to hear, but do you really want to listen? No I don't doctor shop, but if I were diagnosed with a serious "condition" I would certainly get more than one opinion. I would also be leery of any doctor who recommended a specific "treatment" if that doctor received a large portion of his income from the people who created the "treatment". |
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On Fri, 04 May 2007 09:50:59 -0400,
wrote: On Fri, 04 May 2007 08:38:46 -0400, BAR wrote: Global warming is a cycle that is "proved" by the geological record. Which clearly shows that humans are not the only cause of global warming. The question is *how much* we influence it. Also, the other planets are experiencing their own global warming that is coincident with the Earth's global warming. Two planets, Mars and Earth, are warming at the same rate and only one of these planets is inhabited by humans. Not true. Mars may be warming at a rate 4 times that of Earth. http://www.marsdaily.com/reports/Glo...s_Too_999.html On the planet with the humans it is believed that the warming is due, in a large part, to the humans. The ONLY scientific society in the world that rejects that conclusion is "The American Association of Petroleum Geologists." Why just them? What is the cause of the warming on the planet without humans? Dirt. It has to be a 'society'? How about Dr. S. Fred Singer, an atmospheric physicist who leads the Washington-based Science and Environmental Policy Project. His comments are interesting. http://www.jbs.org/node/602 |
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On Thu, 03 May 2007 15:24:39 -0500, John H. wrote: On Thu, 03 May 2007 14:21:03 -0400, wrote: On Thu, 03 May 2007 17:15:30 GMT, "NOYB" wrote: "thunder" wrote in message ... If you want accurate information on global warming, there are far more accurate sources than Glenn Beck, or Al Gore, for that matter. Absolutely...like MIT Professor Richard Lindzen Great source, Lindzen..... First, he doesn't believe in his own theories enough to take James Annan's wager and second, he has taken WAY too much money from the likes of Western Fuels and Exxon-Mobil for me to think of him as a unbiased observer. Just to give you another sample of how way-out-there this guy is.....Fred Guterl reported in Newsweek(7/01), after an interview with Lindzen, "[that] he'll even expound on how weakly lung cancer is linked to cigarette smoking. He speaks in full, impeccably logical paragraphs, and he punctuates his measured cadences with thoughtful drags on a cigarette." What did they teach *you* in medical school about tobacco? Or are all of those people creating a false climate of fear, too??? Gore's *not* in it for any money? Of course he is. He is an extremist for pay....a writer. I don't think anybody expects him to be otherwise. The difference is that he isn't masquerading as a scientist.... which is a person that *shouldn't* have an opinion for pay on topics relating to his/her academic discipline. Lindzen is a nut-case that people, as far off the opposite deep end as Gore, like to point to as "proof" of their position. Your link is just plain trash put forth by another nut-case and the publisher of such other notable works as "Nuclear War Survival Skills." The "Oregon Institute of Science and Medicine" is just another group of people striking a pose and populating the lunatic fringe of science. For every nut on our side we can identify a nut on your side. Dismissing advocates of a position just because you don't believe them is not conducive to discussion and debate. |
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On Fri, 04 May 2007 08:38:46 -0400, BAR wrote: Global warming is a cycle that is "proved" by the geological record. Which clearly shows that humans are not the only cause of global warming. The question is *how much* we influence it. How do we determine how much of an effect we humans are having? Also, the other planets are experiencing their own global warming that is coincident with the Earth's global warming. Two planets, Mars and Earth, are warming at the same rate and only one of these planets is inhabited by humans. Not true. Mars may be warming at a rate 4 times that of Earth. http://www.marsdaily.com/reports/Glo...s_Too_999.html Mars is further from the Sun and warming at a greater rate than Earth. I guess all of the CO2 is keeping the Earth from burning up? On the planet with the humans it is believed that the warming is due, in a large part, to the humans. The ONLY scientific society in the world that rejects that conclusion is "The American Association of Petroleum Geologists." Why just them? Exactly which conclusion. Did they come to their conclusion by a unanimous agreement or were there dissenters in those societies? Was at 50% plus 1 vote? What is the cause of the warming on the planet without humans? Dirt. Dirt? The fact that we have forests and water over top of the dirt means that we are slowing down our fiery end? |
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"Bo" wrote in message news:tJG_h.1$Q96.0@trnddc04... wrote in message ... On Thu, 03 May 2007 15:24:39 -0500, John H. wrote: On Thu, 03 May 2007 14:21:03 -0400, wrote: On Thu, 03 May 2007 17:15:30 GMT, "NOYB" wrote: "thunder" wrote in message .. . If you want accurate information on global warming, there are far more accurate sources than Glenn Beck, or Al Gore, for that matter. Absolutely...like MIT Professor Richard Lindzen Great source, Lindzen..... First, he doesn't believe in his own theories enough to take James Annan's wager and second, he has taken WAY too much money from the likes of Western Fuels and Exxon-Mobil for me to think of him as a unbiased observer. Just to give you another sample of how way-out-there this guy is.....Fred Guterl reported in Newsweek(7/01), after an interview with Lindzen, "[that] he'll even expound on how weakly lung cancer is linked to cigarette smoking. He speaks in full, impeccably logical paragraphs, and he punctuates his measured cadences with thoughtful drags on a cigarette." What did they teach *you* in medical school about tobacco? Or are all of those people creating a false climate of fear, too??? Gore's *not* in it for any money? Of course he is. He is an extremist for pay....a writer. I don't think anybody expects him to be otherwise. The difference is that he isn't masquerading as a scientist.... which is a person that *shouldn't* have an opinion for pay on topics relating to his/her academic discipline. Lindzen is a nut-case that people, as far off the opposite deep end as Gore, like to point to as "proof" of their position. Your link is just plain trash put forth by another nut-case and the publisher of such other notable works as "Nuclear War Survival Skills." The "Oregon Institute of Science and Medicine" is just another group of people striking a pose and populating the lunatic fringe of science. -- How about William Gray? Or Max Mayfield. He was issued a citation recently for bringing a goliath grouper aboard a boat for a picture. It was released unharmed, but they're a protected species. Boating the fish was considered a "take". Of course, in order to properly release the fish unharmed, the fish needs to be brought aboard and vented. Every angler and fishing guide in my neck of the woods always boats these fish in order to vent them. It's common practice...and good conservation technique. So why am I mentioning this here in a thread about Global Warming? Because Max Mayfield stepped on some toes when he testified before Congress that hurricanes were not a result of global warming. His picture appeared with the goliath in a local paper out of St. Pete, and a former disgruntled colleague of his at NOAA turned him in. That's the kind of thing that the global warming zealots do to stifle dissent. |
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wrote in message ... On Fri, 04 May 2007 08:38:46 -0400, BAR wrote: Global warming is a cycle that is "proved" by the geological record. Which clearly shows that humans are not the only cause of global warming. The question is *how much* we influence it. Not-At-All. Remember when smog was being blamed for bringing about the next ice age back in the 50's, 60's, and early 70's when global temperatures were falling? |
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"Bo" wrote in message news:tJG_h.1$Q96.0@trnddc04... wrote in message ... On Thu, 03 May 2007 15:24:39 -0500, John H. wrote: On Thu, 03 May 2007 14:21:03 -0400, wrote: On Thu, 03 May 2007 17:15:30 GMT, "NOYB" wrote: "thunder" wrote in message ... If you want accurate information on global warming, there are far more accurate sources than Glenn Beck, or Al Gore, for that matter. Absolutely...like MIT Professor Richard Lindzen Great source, Lindzen..... First, he doesn't believe in his own theories enough to take James Annan's wager and second, he has taken WAY too much money from the likes of Western Fuels and Exxon-Mobil for me to think of him as a unbiased observer. Just to give you another sample of how way-out-there this guy is.....Fred Guterl reported in Newsweek(7/01), after an interview with Lindzen, "[that] he'll even expound on how weakly lung cancer is linked to cigarette smoking. He speaks in full, impeccably logical paragraphs, and he punctuates his measured cadences with thoughtful drags on a cigarette." What did they teach *you* in medical school about tobacco? Or are all of those people creating a false climate of fear, too??? Gore's *not* in it for any money? Of course he is. He is an extremist for pay....a writer. I don't think anybody expects him to be otherwise. The difference is that he isn't masquerading as a scientist.... which is a person that *shouldn't* have an opinion for pay on topics relating to his/her academic discipline. Lindzen is a nut-case that people, as far off the opposite deep end as Gore, like to point to as "proof" of their position. Your link is just plain trash put forth by another nut-case and the publisher of such other notable works as "Nuclear War Survival Skills." The "Oregon Institute of Science and Medicine" is just another group of people striking a pose and populating the lunatic fringe of science. -- How about William Gray? Or Max Mayfield. He was issued a citation recently for bringing a goliath grouper aboard a boat for a picture. It was released unharmed, but they're a protected species. Boating the fish was considered a "take". Of course, in order to properly release the fish unharmed, the fish needs to be brought aboard and vented. Every angler and fishing guide in my neck of the woods always boats these fish in order to vent them. It's common practice...and good conservation technique. So why am I mentioning this here in a thread about Global Warming? Because Max Mayfield stepped on some toes when he testified before Congress that hurricanes were not a result of global warming. His picture appeared with the goliath in a local paper out of St. Pete, and a former disgruntled colleague of his at NOAA turned him in. That's the kind of thing that the global warming zealots do to stifle dissent. Kind of mild compared to what a bunch of Conservatrashers did to Max Cleland or John McCain, eh? |
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wrote in message ... On Fri, 04 May 2007 08:38:46 -0400, BAR wrote: Global warming is a cycle that is "proved" by the geological record. Which clearly shows that humans are not the only cause of global warming. The question is *how much* we influence it. Not-At-All. Remember when smog was being blamed for bringing about the next ice age back in the 50's, 60's, and early 70's when global temperatures were falling? You remember that, eh? From the womb? |
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