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James April 4th 07 03:10 AM

What 2 cycle oil to use in 115 hp v-4 Evinrude
 
Extra lube is not a good thing. It ends up as deposits.

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On 3 Apr 2007 14:19:13 -0700, "Tim" wrote:

Thoughts on oils and brands?


I agree with Clams on this - for that engine, I would use Wal Mart's
TCW3 clone 2-cycle oil - more than good enough. Semi and full
synthetics will work too, but the engine wasn't designed for those
oils.

The only caveat I would offer would be to make the blend a little
richer - like 40:1 instead of 50:1 and maybe go with a little hotter
plug. It will smoke a little more, but at that age and without a
rebuild, the extra lube can't hurt.




Mike April 4th 07 06:15 AM

What 2 cycle oil to use in 115 hp v-4 Evinrude
 
Extra lube is not a good thing. It ends up as deposits.

Any deposits that *may* be formed from extra lubrication, is negated by the
benefits of some extra lube in an older 2 stroke. It's a cost/benefit type
thing, and the bennies win in this case.

--Mike

"James" wrote in message
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Extra lube is not a good thing. It ends up as deposits.

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On 3 Apr 2007 14:19:13 -0700, "Tim" wrote:

Thoughts on oils and brands?


I agree with Clams on this - for that engine, I would use Wal Mart's
TCW3 clone 2-cycle oil - more than good enough. Semi and full
synthetics will work too, but the engine wasn't designed for those
oils.

The only caveat I would offer would be to make the blend a little
richer - like 40:1 instead of 50:1 and maybe go with a little hotter
plug. It will smoke a little more, but at that age and without a
rebuild, the extra lube can't hurt.






Tim April 4th 07 01:30 PM

What 2 cycle oil to use in 115 hp v-4 Evinrude
 
On Apr 4, 12:15 am, "Mike" wrote:
Extra lube is not a good thing. It ends up as deposits.


Any deposits that *may* be formed from extra lubrication, is negated by the
benefits of some extra lube in an older 2 stroke. It's a cost/benefit type
thing, and the bennies win in this case.

--Mike


And deposits can be cleaned out easier and cheaper than replacing
scored pistons and worn berings.


Clams Canino April 4th 07 01:40 PM

What 2 cycle oil to use in 115 hp v-4 Evinrude
 

"Tim" wrote in message

I'm anticipating the crank seals needing replaced from sitting so
long.


Doubtfull - In general they seem quite resiliant.

-W



Tim April 4th 07 01:50 PM

What 2 cycle oil to use in 115 hp v-4 Evinrude
 
On Apr 4, 7:40 am, "Clams Canino" wrote:
"Tim" wrote in message
I'm anticipating the crank seals needing replaced from sitting so
long.


Doubtfull - In general they seem quite resiliant.

-W


Yeah,I know they're pretty tough, but I figured that sitting still
for the past 10 yrs they'd get brittle. seems some things will wear
worse sitting dead for a decade then they would running the whole
time.



Clams Canino April 4th 07 09:11 PM

What 2 cycle oil to use in 115 hp v-4 Evinrude
 

Figgure the bottom seals stayed wet for sure. The upper is the only
question mark. Based on my extensive experience with old Mercs - it's prolly
fine. Spray some soapy water on it and spin the motor.

-W

"Tim" wrote in message
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On Apr 4, 7:40 am, "Clams Canino" wrote:
"Tim" wrote in message
I'm anticipating the crank seals needing replaced from sitting so
long.


Doubtfull - In general they seem quite resiliant.

-W


Yeah,I know they're pretty tough, but I figured that sitting still
for the past 10 yrs they'd get brittle. seems some things will wear
worse sitting dead for a decade then they would running the whole
time.





Tim April 5th 07 02:23 AM

What 2 cycle oil to use in 115 hp v-4 Evinrude
 
On Apr 4, 3:11 pm, "Clams Canino" wrote:
Figgure the bottom seals stayed wet for sure. The upper is the only
question mark. Based on my extensive experience with old Mercs - it's prolly
fine. Spray some soapy water on it and spin the motor.

-W

"Tim" wrote in message

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On Apr 4, 7:40 am, "Clams Canino" wrote:
"Tim" wrote in message
I'm anticipating the crank seals needing replaced from sitting so
long.


Doubtfull - In general they seem quite resiliant.


-W


Yeah,I know they're pretty tough, but I figured that sitting still
for the past 10 yrs they'd get brittle. seems some things will wear
worse sitting dead for a decade then they would running the whole
time.- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


Good idea. I'll pull the flywheel this weekend. will applying the soap
help to soften the seal? or to detect of leaking vacuum?


Clams Canino April 5th 07 07:00 AM

What 2 cycle oil to use in 115 hp v-4 Evinrude
 
Detect. If you wanna soften the seal just pour some light oil on the upper
end cap.

I highly doubt it'll be an issue. The exception is if the upper main
bearing is at all loose (wobbly) - that would put a bit of undue movement on
an older seal.

-W

"Tim" wrote in message
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On Apr 4, 3:11 pm, "Clams Canino" wrote:
Figgure the bottom seals stayed wet for sure. The upper is the only
question mark. Based on my extensive experience with old Mercs - it's

prolly
fine. Spray some soapy water on it and spin the motor.

-W

"Tim" wrote in message

oups.com...



On Apr 4, 7:40 am, "Clams Canino" wrote:
"Tim" wrote in message
I'm anticipating the crank seals needing replaced from sitting so
long.


Doubtfull - In general they seem quite resiliant.


-W


Yeah,I know they're pretty tough, but I figured that sitting still
for the past 10 yrs they'd get brittle. seems some things will wear
worse sitting dead for a decade then they would running the whole
time.- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


Good idea. I'll pull the flywheel this weekend. will applying the soap
help to soften the seal? or to detect of leaking vacuum?




Tim April 5th 07 02:45 PM

What 2 cycle oil to use in 115 hp v-4 Evinrude
 

Clams Canino wrote:
Detect. If you wanna soften the seal just pour some light oil on the upper
end cap.

I highly doubt it'll be an issue. The exception is if the upper main
bearing is at all loose (wobbly) - that would put a bit of undue movement on
an older seal.

-W



God call Clams.

Yes, this is in all essence a 10 year old "new" engine. I doubt
there's any play in the crank .

Will still check it out, though. Make sure all things are in working
order, then re-mothball it, and wait for the right tube boat to come
along.

Thanks for your thoughts.

Tim


Short Wave Sportfishing April 5th 07 04:35 PM

What 2 cycle oil to use in 115 hp v-4 Evinrude
 
On 5 Apr 2007 06:45:34 -0700, "Tim" wrote:

God call Clams.


Ok.

Hey Clams - Tim said to call you...


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