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On Wed, 07 Mar 2007 20:11:47 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
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JimH wrote:
http://tinyurl.com/25bo2s

http://tech.yahoo.com/blogs/null/184...ase-windows-xp

It looks like folks are not too happy with Vista.
I like it. The only problem I've had is that there is no driver
for
my
ancient scanner. So I hooked it up to my laptop, which runs
Windows
2000.

Have you found anything in Vista that would make it a really
compelling
choice of XP?

Vista seems a bit more robust in that when you do something
stupid
and
stall out a program, the computer locks up less and you don't
have
to
do
a
hard reboot.

Any software that locks up because of something the user did should
be
discarded. It's junk and its programmer was an idiot.

Once again, Joe Groceryboy enters the fray with his broad based
opinions on all things idiotic. It's almost like Joe has a PhD in
Idiocy andIinformed Choice.

It's like if the end user doesn't read the manual, does something
that
the computer can't do and it's the programmer's fault.

Tell me all you know about trapping for errors in software. I've got
30
seconds. That should be plenty.

You first. I've got 5 seconds - time to spare.

I know that all errors can be trapped, unless the software isn't ready
for
release yet.

Time's up - you lose.


OK. Give me an example of an actual piece of retail software that crashes
when a user does something. And, tell me why you think that's acceptable
and
why a programmer could not trap for the possibility of the user making
the
product crash.

Nope - time's up.

You lose.


In other words, you're saying that even when a programmer knows what makes
his program crash, it's OK to leave the defect in place.

You lose.


Is Walter Irvin your father?

Great Forbes article on Vista issues.

http://www.forbes.com/security/2007/...tech-security-
cz_bs_0212vista.html

If it wraps it's worth fixing. )

-W

A more techy link... but real good.

http://www.cs.auckland.ac.nz/~pgut00...st.html#quotes

-W

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Great Forbes article on Vista issues.

http://www.forbes.com/security/2007/...tech-security-
cz_bs_0212vista.html

If it wraps it's worth fixing. )

-W



Another link to that same story: http://tinyurl.com/242amw

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On Wed, 07 Mar 2007 20:41:56 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
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On Wed, 07 Mar 2007 20:11:47 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
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"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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D.Duck wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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JimH wrote:
http://tinyurl.com/25bo2s

http://tech.yahoo.com/blogs/null/184...ase-windows-xp

It looks like folks are not too happy with Vista.
I like it. The only problem I've had is that there is no driver for
my
ancient scanner. So I hooked it up to my laptop, which runs Windows
2000.
Have you found anything in Vista that would make it a really
compelling
choice of XP?
Vista seems a bit more robust in that when you do something stupid
and
stall out a program, the computer locks up less and you don't have to
do
a
hard reboot.
Any software that locks up because of something the user did should be
discarded. It's junk and its programmer was an idiot.
Once again, Joe Groceryboy enters the fray with his broad based
opinions on all things idiotic. It's almost like Joe has a PhD in
Idiocy andIinformed Choice.

It's like if the end user doesn't read the manual, does something that
the computer can't do and it's the programmer's fault.
Tell me all you know about trapping for errors in software. I've got 30
seconds. That should be plenty.
You first. I've got 5 seconds - time to spare.
I know that all errors can be trapped, unless the software isn't ready for
release yet.


Is there anything you do not know Doug?

Ask Harry, he knows everything. If you don't believe me or his posts
then just ask him yourself.

Like I said, I tested it from alpha, and it no longer resides on any of my
systems. Maybe the 1st service pack...

--Mike

"JimH" wrote in message
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http://tinyurl.com/25bo2s

http://tech.yahoo.com/blogs/null/184...ase-windows-xp

It looks like folks are not too happy with Vista.

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On Wed, 07 Mar 2007 20:11:47 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
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"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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D.Duck wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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JimH wrote:
http://tinyurl.com/25bo2s

http://tech.yahoo.com/blogs/null/184...o-microsoft-re...

It looks like folks are not too happy with Vista.
I like it. The only problem I've had is that there is no driver
for
my
ancient scanner. So I hooked it up to my laptop, which runs
Windows
2000.

Have you found anything in Vista that would make it a really
compelling
choice of XP?

Vista seems a bit more robust in that when you do something
stupid
and
stall out a program, the computer locks up less and you don't
have
to
do
a
hard reboot.

Any software that locks up because of something the user did should
be
discarded. It's junk and its programmer was an idiot.

Once again, Joe Groceryboy enters the fray with his broad based
opinions on all things idiotic. It's almost like Joe has a PhD in
Idiocy andIinformed Choice.

It's like if the end user doesn't read the manual, does something
that
the computer can't do and it's the programmer's fault.

Tell me all you know about trapping for errors in software. I've got
30
seconds. That should be plenty.

You first. I've got 5 seconds - time to spare.

I know that all errors can be trapped, unless the software isn't ready
for
release yet.

Time's up - you lose.

OK. Give me an example of an actual piece of retail software that crashes
when a user does something. And, tell me why you think that's acceptable
and
why a programmer could not trap for the possibility of the user making
the
product crash.

Nope - time's up.

You lose.

In other words, you're saying that even when a programmer knows what makes
his program crash, it's OK to leave the defect in place.

You lose.

Is Walter Irvin your father?- Hide quoted text -


Maybe it's Dennis Compton?

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On Wed, 07 Mar 2007 20:11:47 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
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"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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D.Duck wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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JimH wrote:
http://tinyurl.com/25bo2s

http://tech.yahoo.com/blogs/null/184...o-microsoft-re...

It looks like folks are not too happy with Vista.
I like it. The only problem I've had is that there is no
driver
for
my
ancient scanner. So I hooked it up to my laptop, which runs
Windows
2000.

Have you found anything in Vista that would make it a really
compelling
choice of XP?

Vista seems a bit more robust in that when you do something
stupid
and
stall out a program, the computer locks up less and you don't
have
to
do
a
hard reboot.

Any software that locks up because of something the user did
should
be
discarded. It's junk and its programmer was an idiot.

Once again, Joe Groceryboy enters the fray with his broad based
opinions on all things idiotic. It's almost like Joe has a PhD
in
Idiocy andIinformed Choice.

It's like if the end user doesn't read the manual, does
something
that
the computer can't do and it's the programmer's fault.

Tell me all you know about trapping for errors in software. I've
got
30
seconds. That should be plenty.

You first. I've got 5 seconds - time to spare.

I know that all errors can be trapped, unless the software isn't
ready
for
release yet.

Time's up - you lose.

OK. Give me an example of an actual piece of retail software that
crashes
when a user does something. And, tell me why you think that's
acceptable
and
why a programmer could not trap for the possibility of the user making
the
product crash.

Nope - time's up.

You lose.

In other words, you're saying that even when a programmer knows what
makes
his program crash, it's OK to leave the defect in place.

You lose.

Is Walter Irvin your father?- Hide quoted text -


Maybe it's Dennis Compton?



Naw......I'm too young to be his father. It has to be Walter Irvin, right
Walter?

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On Wed, 07 Mar 2007 20:11:47 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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D.Duck wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
JimH wrote:
http://tinyurl.com/25bo2s

http://tech.yahoo.com/blogs/null/184...o-microsoft-re...

It looks like folks are not too happy with Vista.
I like it. The only problem I've had is that there is no
driver
for
my
ancient scanner. So I hooked it up to my laptop, which runs
Windows
2000.

Have you found anything in Vista that would make it a really
compelling
choice of XP?

Vista seems a bit more robust in that when you do something
stupid
and
stall out a program, the computer locks up less and you don't
have
to
do
a
hard reboot.

Any software that locks up because of something the user did
should
be
discarded. It's junk and its programmer was an idiot.

Once again, Joe Groceryboy enters the fray with his broad based
opinions on all things idiotic. It's almost like Joe has a PhD
in
Idiocy andIinformed Choice.

It's like if the end user doesn't read the manual, does
something
that
the computer can't do and it's the programmer's fault.

Tell me all you know about trapping for errors in software. I've
got
30
seconds. That should be plenty.

You first. I've got 5 seconds - time to spare.

I know that all errors can be trapped, unless the software isn't
ready
for
release yet.

Time's up - you lose.

OK. Give me an example of an actual piece of retail software that
crashes
when a user does something. And, tell me why you think that's
acceptable
and
why a programmer could not trap for the possibility of the user making
the
product crash.

Nope - time's up.

You lose.

In other words, you're saying that even when a programmer knows what
makes
his program crash, it's OK to leave the defect in place.

You lose.

Is Walter Irvin your father?- Hide quoted text -

Maybe it's Dennis Compton?

Naw......I'm too young to be his father. It has to be Walter Irvin, right
Walter?- Hide quoted text -

Maybe it's some conservative christian who thinks that, despite
thinking he's a decent christian, tells lies and wild allegations
about people, their wives, and even accuses their young children of
taking drugs, all without any evidence, or thought. Maybe it's a
person who would stoop that low, huh? Oh, no, that's YOU.

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On Wed, 07 Mar 2007 20:11:47 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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D.Duck wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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JimH wrote:
http://tinyurl.com/25bo2s

http://tech.yahoo.com/blogs/null/184...o-microsoft-re...

It looks like folks are not too happy with Vista.
I like it. The only problem I've had is that there is no
driver
for
my
ancient scanner. So I hooked it up to my laptop, which
runs
Windows
2000.

Have you found anything in Vista that would make it a
really
compelling
choice of XP?

Vista seems a bit more robust in that when you do something
stupid
and
stall out a program, the computer locks up less and you
don't
have
to
do
a
hard reboot.

Any software that locks up because of something the user did
should
be
discarded. It's junk and its programmer was an idiot.

Once again, Joe Groceryboy enters the fray with his broad
based
opinions on all things idiotic. It's almost like Joe has a
PhD
in
Idiocy andIinformed Choice.

It's like if the end user doesn't read the manual, does
something
that
the computer can't do and it's the programmer's fault.

Tell me all you know about trapping for errors in software.
I've
got
30
seconds. That should be plenty.

You first. I've got 5 seconds - time to spare.

I know that all errors can be trapped, unless the software isn't
ready
for
release yet.

Time's up - you lose.

OK. Give me an example of an actual piece of retail software that
crashes
when a user does something. And, tell me why you think that's
acceptable
and
why a programmer could not trap for the possibility of the user
making
the
product crash.

Nope - time's up.

You lose.

In other words, you're saying that even when a programmer knows what
makes
his program crash, it's OK to leave the defect in place.

You lose.

Is Walter Irvin your father?- Hide quoted text -

Maybe it's Dennis Compton?

Naw......I'm too young to be his father. It has to be Walter Irvin,
right
Walter?- Hide quoted text -

Maybe it's some conservative christian who thinks that, despite
thinking he's a decent christian, tells lies and wild allegations
about people, their wives, and even accuses their young children of
taking drugs, all without any evidence, or thought. Maybe it's a
person who would stoop that low, huh? Oh, no, that's YOU.



Have you planted this year's crop yet?

Has your family smoked all of last years harvest?

How is Walter Irvin doing?