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Chuck Gould wrote:
On Mar 6, 9:39?am, Harry Krause wrote:

http://img409.imageshack.us/my.php?i...43e174duw8.jpg

"See, as you push the water deeper under water it get's less dense and
becomes buoyant. Fortunately, water is still heavier than air, otherwise
all the buoyant water from the bottom of the ocean would float right up
out of the water instead of sinking in the air."- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Well there you go, Harry. As I recall, you often criticize boats for
lack of flotation. Perhaps you posted that link to suggest that
MacGregors are "unsinkable"?

I suspect the photo has been digitally created, based on visual clues
such as the unconcerned demeanor of the guy at the helm and the group
on thecabin top that appear to be discussing something to do with the
mast. If I were on a boat sinking at the dock, you can bet I'd be
getting off the boat and onto the dock in a hurry. Doesn't seem to be
any sense of urgency or any attention to the possible cause of the
dilemna apparent in any of the people in the picture.

Even if the photo is legit, it certainly doesn't qualify as a
collector's item. There are thousands of photos in circulation showing
virtually every sort of popularly sold boat in distress. I got a good
shot one day of a Hatteras on fire, but I don't use that as a basis to
pronounce all Hatteras (Hatteri?) "fire traps".

Vic may or may not finally conclude that a MacGregor is the right boat
for his purposes, but he should arrive at that conclusion based on an
objective assessment of personal prefereneces and local conditions
rather than propaganda photos.


Chuck,
Did you hear about the blond whose Bayliner was having problems getting
up on plane? Well you see she contacted her dealer ..................

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On Mar 6, 12:47�pm, RJSmithers
wrote:
Chuck Gould wrote:
On Mar 6, 9:39?am, Harry Krause wrote:

http://img409.imageshack.us/my.php?i...43e174duw8.jpg

"See, as you push the water deeper under water it get's less dense and
becomes buoyant. Fortunately, water is still heavier than air, otherwise
all the buoyant water from the bottom of the ocean would float right up
out of the water instead of sinking in the air."- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Well there you go, Harry. As I recall, you often criticize boats for
lack of flotation. Perhaps you posted that link to suggest that
MacGregors are "unsinkable"?

I suspect the photo has been digitally created, based on visual clues
such as the unconcerned demeanor of the guy at the helm and the group
on thecabin top that appear to be discussing something to do with the
mast. If I were on a boat sinking at the dock, you can bet I'd be
getting off the boat and onto the dock in a hurry. Doesn't seem to be
any sense of urgency or any attention to the possible cause of the
dilemna apparent in any of the people in the picture.

Even if the photo is legit, it certainly doesn't qualify as a
collector's item. There are thousands of photos in circulation showing
virtually every sort of popularly sold boat in distress. I got a good
shot one day of a Hatteras on fire, but I don't use that as a basis to
pronounce all Hatteras (Hatteri?) "fire traps".

Vic may or may not finally conclude that a MacGregor is the right boat
for his purposes, but he should arrive at that conclusion based on an
objective assessment of personal prefereneces and local conditions
rather than propaganda photos.

Chuck,
Did you hear about the blond whose Bayliner was having problems getting
up on plane? *Well you see she contacted her dealer ..................- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Wish I had a buck for everybody that bought into that one. And every
one of the folks who passed that along as the gospel truth was hooting
and jeering about how "dumb" the blonde was. :-)

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On 6 Mar 2007 13:01:08 -0800, "Chuck Gould"
wrote:

On Mar 6, 12:47?pm, RJSmithers
wrote:
Chuck Gould wrote:
On Mar 6, 9:39?am, Harry Krause wrote:

http://img409.imageshack.us/my.php?i...43e174duw8.jpg

"See, as you push the water deeper under water it get's less dense and
becomes buoyant. Fortunately, water is still heavier than air, otherwise
all the buoyant water from the bottom of the ocean would float right up
out of the water instead of sinking in the air."- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Well there you go, Harry. As I recall, you often criticize boats for
lack of flotation. Perhaps you posted that link to suggest that
MacGregors are "unsinkable"?

I suspect the photo has been digitally created, based on visual clues
such as the unconcerned demeanor of the guy at the helm and the group
on thecabin top that appear to be discussing something to do with the
mast. If I were on a boat sinking at the dock, you can bet I'd be
getting off the boat and onto the dock in a hurry. Doesn't seem to be
any sense of urgency or any attention to the possible cause of the
dilemna apparent in any of the people in the picture.

Even if the photo is legit, it certainly doesn't qualify as a
collector's item. There are thousands of photos in circulation showing
virtually every sort of popularly sold boat in distress. I got a good
shot one day of a Hatteras on fire, but I don't use that as a basis to
pronounce all Hatteras (Hatteri?) "fire traps".

Vic may or may not finally conclude that a MacGregor is the right boat
for his purposes, but he should arrive at that conclusion based on an
objective assessment of personal prefereneces and local conditions
rather than propaganda photos.

Chuck,
Did you hear about the blond whose Bayliner was having problems getting
up on plane? ell you see she contacted her dealer ..................- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Wish I had a buck for everybody that bought into that one. And every
one of the folks who passed that along as the gospel truth was hooting
and jeering about how "dumb" the blonde was. :-)

Did you ever see the "Mythbusters" episode on this "myth"?

Turns out it actually has a basis in fact. They found a marine dealer
who did exactly that for some reason I can't remember at the moment
and he admitted that the myth started with him moving a boat with the
trailer under it.

Wish I could remember why.

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Chuck Gould wrote:
:On Mar 6, 9:39?am, Harry Krause wrote:

:
: http://img409.imageshack.us/my.php?i...43e174duw8.jpg
:
: "See, as you push the water deeper under water it get's less dense and
: becomes buoyant. Fortunately, water is still heavier than air, otherwise
: all the buoyant water from the bottom of the ocean would float right up
: out of the water instead of sinking in the air."- Hide quoted text -
:
: - Show quoted text -

:Well there you go, Harry. As I recall, you often criticize boats for
:lack of flotation. Perhaps you posted that link to suggest that
:MacGregors are "unsinkable"?

:Even if the photo is legit, it certainly doesn't qualify as a
:collector's item. There are thousands of photos in circulation showing
:virtually every sort of popularly sold boat in distress. I got a good
:shot one day of a Hatteras on fire, but I don't use that as a basis to
:pronounce all Hatteras (Hatteri?) "fire traps".

It's a real photo. It's a factory photo; they drilled a hole in the
bottom. It's on their website:

http://www.macgregor26.com/safety/safety.htm

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"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On 6 Mar 2007 13:01:08 -0800, "Chuck Gould"
wrote:

On Mar 6, 12:47?pm, RJSmithers
wrote:
Chuck Gould wrote:
On Mar 6, 9:39?am, Harry Krause wrote:

http://img409.imageshack.us/my.php?i...43e174duw8.jpg

"See, as you push the water deeper under water it get's less dense
and
becomes buoyant. Fortunately, water is still heavier than air,
otherwise
all the buoyant water from the bottom of the ocean would float right
up
out of the water instead of sinking in the air."- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Well there you go, Harry. As I recall, you often criticize boats for
lack of flotation. Perhaps you posted that link to suggest that
MacGregors are "unsinkable"?

I suspect the photo has been digitally created, based on visual clues
such as the unconcerned demeanor of the guy at the helm and the group
on thecabin top that appear to be discussing something to do with the
mast. If I were on a boat sinking at the dock, you can bet I'd be
getting off the boat and onto the dock in a hurry. Doesn't seem to be
any sense of urgency or any attention to the possible cause of the
dilemna apparent in any of the people in the picture.

Even if the photo is legit, it certainly doesn't qualify as a
collector's item. There are thousands of photos in circulation showing
virtually every sort of popularly sold boat in distress. I got a good
shot one day of a Hatteras on fire, but I don't use that as a basis to
pronounce all Hatteras (Hatteri?) "fire traps".

Vic may or may not finally conclude that a MacGregor is the right boat
for his purposes, but he should arrive at that conclusion based on an
objective assessment of personal prefereneces and local conditions
rather than propaganda photos.

Chuck,
Did you hear about the blond whose Bayliner was having problems getting
up on plane? ell you see she contacted her dealer ..................-
Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Wish I had a buck for everybody that bought into that one. And every
one of the folks who passed that along as the gospel truth was hooting
and jeering about how "dumb" the blonde was. :-)

Did you ever see the "Mythbusters" episode on this "myth"?

Turns out it actually has a basis in fact. They found a marine dealer
who did exactly that for some reason I can't remember at the moment
and he admitted that the myth started with him moving a boat with the
trailer under it.

Wish I could remember why.

Something about ferry costs.

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On Mar 6, 1:24�pm, David Scheidt wrote:
Chuck Gould wrote:

:On Mar 6, 9:39?am, Harry Krause wrote:

:
:http://img409.imageshack.us/my.php?i...43e174duw8.jpg
:
: "See, as you push the water deeper under water it get's less dense and
: becomes buoyant. Fortunately, water is still heavier than air, otherwise
: all the buoyant water from the bottom of the ocean would float right up
: out of the water instead of sinking in the air."- Hide quoted text -
:
: - Show quoted text -

:Well there you go, Harry. As I recall, you often criticize boats for
:lack of flotation. Perhaps you posted that link to suggest that
:MacGregors are "unsinkable"?

:Even if the photo is legit, it certainly doesn't qualify as a
:collector's item. There are thousands of photos in circulation showing
:virtually every sort of popularly sold boat in distress. I got a good
:shot one day of a Hatteras on fire, but I don't use that as a basis to
:pronounce all Hatteras (Hatteri?) "fire traps".

It's a real photo. *It's a factory photo; they drilled a hole in the
bottom. *It's on their website:

http://www.macgregor26.com/safety/safety.htm

Well, that at least explains the reason the all of the folks aboard
seem so unconcerned about their predicament. And it certainly does an
excelllent job of illustrating positive flotation. I'm sure that's
what Harry was trying to communicate when he linked that photo, "It
takes a heck of a lot to sink a MacGregor!" :-)