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On 5 Mar 2007 09:25:32 -0800, "Chuck Gould"
wrote:

On Mar 5, 8:03?am, Wayne.B wrote:

I'd recommend an older, used sailboat in the 28 to 30 ft range because
I think it's the only thing that will meet all of your listed
requirements. t would be very fuel efficient and easily handled by
two people after a bit of experience in fair weather. et an
autopilot, best money you'll ever spend.

I would concur. $30,000 is a very low budget for a boat with the
requirements stated. Motoring around in an old sailboat might be a
solution, I'd have to think the sail inventory would be pretty tired
on a boat in that price range- but maybe could still sail a bit.

Depending on how rough conditions might be- a new 26' MacGregor is
around $30,000. Pretty light weight and not much draft for serious
offshore use. Not the world's finest sailboat, sort of weird as a
powerbot, but very economical to
purchase and operate. Can't say how one would work in the Gulf, but
they are very popular in Puget Sound.

Thanks for that suggestion. I'll give them a look.

--Vic

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On 5 Mar 2007 09:34:02 -0800, "jamesgangnc"
wrote:

On Mar 5, 12:25 pm, "Chuck Gould" wrote:
On Mar 5, 8:03?am, Wayne.B wrote:

I'd recommend an older, used sailboat in the 28 to 30 ft range because
I think it's the only thing that will meet all of your listed
requirements. ?It would be very fuel efficient and easily handled by
two people after a bit of experience in fair weather. ?Get an
autopilot, best money you'll ever spend.

I would concur. $30,000 is a very low budget for a boat with the
requirements stated. Motoring around in an old sailboat might be a
solution, I'd have to think the sail inventory would be pretty tired
on a boat in that price range- but maybe could still sail a bit.

Depending on how rough conditions might be- a new 26' MacGregor is
around $30,000. Pretty light weight and not much draft for serious
offshore use. Not the world's finest sailboat, sort of weird as a
powerbot, but very economical to
purchase and operate. Can't say how one would work in the Gulf, but
they are very popular in Puget Sound.

$30k is unrealistic.

If gas consumption is the deciding factor then a displacement hull or
a sail boat. You can't be in a hurry but you will get there at the
least cost.

Seems to be a consensus. After I do some looking and trials in
Florida I'll try to get some feedback here from what I've found.
I probably should have cross-posted this to the asa group, since
I'm being pointed to sailboats, but I'm not convinced of going that
way yet.

--Vic

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On Mon, 05 Mar 2007 07:15:19 -0500, JLH wrote:


First, let me lay down the only essential requirements for the boat
1. the boat is seaworthy of typical Gulf of Mexico offshore excursions
- non-hurricane but otherwise expected seas.
2. two people can live aboard without tripping over each other.
3. cost is no more than $30k, shipshape.
That's it.
What hull/engine combos offer the best MPG?
Anybody?

Thanks,

--Vic



It seems like you're asking a hell of a lot for $30K!

After some initial looking around, it appears not.
The MacGregor 26 Chuck mentioned, new and powered is $30k
I see Albin 27's around $30k, but they're pretty old and not suitable
for mileage and other reasons.
I'll keep looking, but I think $30k will do, though I'll shoot for
less.
I ran across a good review Chuck did of the Allweather that tak
mentioned, and following that thread gave me some more avenues
to search. Since I like to fish, the Allweather doesn't seem my cup
of tea, but has put me on the track of a small deisel/full
displacement
hull that will meet my requirements. If it can sail too, all the
better. Even the MacGregor isn't out of the question, though
the "real" sailors sneer at it. Hey, I might just become the Skipper
of the sailing world!

--Vic

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On Sun, 04 Mar 2007 23:46:00 -0600, Vic Smith
wrote:

snippity-snip

Anybody?

Thanks,

--Vic



You could look he
http://www.yachtworld.com/core/listi...ck&searchtype=
Mark E. Williams

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On Mon, 05 Mar 2007 21:50:09 -0600, Maynard G. Krebbs
wrote:

You could look he
http://www.yachtworld.com/core/listi...ck&searchtype=
Mark E. Williams

==================================================

Great looking boat but it needs air conditioning for use in Florida.

That will be an issue with most boats in that size range or smaller.

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On Mon, 05 Mar 2007 21:50:09 -0600, Maynard G. Krebbs
wrote:

On Sun, 04 Mar 2007 23:46:00 -0600, Vic Smith
wrote:

snippity-snip

Anybody?

Thanks,

--Vic



You could look he
http://www.yachtworld.com/core/listi...ck&searchtype=
Mark E. Williams

That's funny. I had that very link open, and was going to post in
reply to John as an example of what you can get for 30k.
That's one nice looking boat, and a lot of it for the price.
Too much boat and motor for me, though.
Thanks.

--Vic

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On Mon, 05 Mar 2007 23:23:30 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Mon, 05 Mar 2007 21:50:09 -0600, Maynard G. Krebbs
wrote:

You could look he
http://www.yachtworld.com/core/listi...ck&searchtype=
Mark E. Williams

================================================= =

Great looking boat but it needs air conditioning for use in Florida.

That will be an issue with most boats in that size range or smaller.

Cap'n Neal appears to make do with skeeter netting in the Keys.
I'm not sure about the need for air myself. When my weight is down
the heat doesn't bother me much.
Hoisting sail could keep my weight down.
Water holding for quick showers might be more important than air.
So many questions.
Hope I don't find the answers the hard way. Had enough of that (-:

--Vic

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On Mon, 05 Mar 2007 21:27:35 -0600, Vic Smith
wrote:

On Mon, 05 Mar 2007 07:15:19 -0500, JLH wrote:


First, let me lay down the only essential requirements for the boat
1. the boat is seaworthy of typical Gulf of Mexico offshore excursions
- non-hurricane but otherwise expected seas.
2. two people can live aboard without tripping over each other.
3. cost is no more than $30k, shipshape.
That's it.
What hull/engine combos offer the best MPG?
Anybody?

Thanks,

--Vic



It seems like you're asking a hell of a lot for $30K!

After some initial looking around, it appears not.
The MacGregor 26 Chuck mentioned, new and powered is $30k
I see Albin 27's around $30k, but they're pretty old and not suitable
for mileage and other reasons.
I'll keep looking, but I think $30k will do, though I'll shoot for
less.
I ran across a good review Chuck did of the Allweather that tak
mentioned, and following that thread gave me some more avenues
to search. Since I like to fish, the Allweather doesn't seem my cup
of tea, but has put me on the track of a small deisel/full
displacement
hull that will meet my requirements. If it can sail too, all the
better. Even the MacGregor isn't out of the question, though
the "real" sailors sneer at it. Hey, I might just become the Skipper
of the sailing world!

One of the best fishermen I know often fishes off his 40' Beneteau and
has a ball doing it.

Hey, if that's what you want - go for it.

Just be aware that sailing is work.

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On Mon, 05 Mar 2007 22:45:57 -0600, Vic Smith
wrote:

On Mon, 05 Mar 2007 23:23:30 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Mon, 05 Mar 2007 21:50:09 -0600, Maynard G. Krebbs
wrote:

You could look he
http://www.yachtworld.com/core/listi...ck&searchtype=
Mark E. Williams

================================================ ==

Great looking boat but it needs air conditioning for use in Florida.

That will be an issue with most boats in that size range or smaller.

Cap'n Neal appears to make do with skeeter netting in the Keys.
I'm not sure about the need for air myself. When my weight is down
the heat doesn't bother me much.
Hoisting sail could keep my weight down.
Water holding for quick showers might be more important than air.
So many questions.
Hope I don't find the answers the hard way. Had enough of that (-:

For the record, I agree with Wayne.

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On Tue, 06 Mar 2007 11:34:40 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

Great looking boat but it needs air conditioning for use in Florida.

That will be an issue with most boats in that size range or smaller.

Cap'n Neal appears to make do with skeeter netting in the Keys.
I'm not sure about the need for air myself. When my weight is down
the heat doesn't bother me much.
Hoisting sail could keep my weight down.
Water holding for quick showers might be more important than air.
So many questions.
Hope I don't find the answers the hard way. Had enough of that (-:

For the record, I agree with Wayne.

All of south Florida is uninhabitable in the summertime without air
conditioning. You could easily get temperatures over 100 degrees
inside a boat.