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Chuck Gould wrote:
According to an item in the Marine Business Journal, a legal decision
in a lawsuit pressed by a group called "Northwest Envionmental
Advocates" has potential implications for every pleasure boater
operating in US waters.

In an effort to prohibit the discharge of ballast water from foreign
vessels (and reduce the liklihood of introducing foreign plants and
animals to local eco-systems) the Environmental Advocates sucessfully
argued that any vessel discharging any liquid or material of any type
must first obtain a permit from the state in which the discharge is
going to take place. (As a condition of granting the permit, most
states will demand the right to inspect the vessel, ensure that all
available pollution controls are installed and properly maintained,
and may even want to monitor the discharge- at the vessel's expense).

One small oversight: Unlike previous versions of similar regulations,
the legal ruling does not exempt pleasure vessels from the requirement
to obtain a discharge permit.
As a result, everything from cooling water cycling through an engine
to water running off of a deck can be considered a "discharge" and is
technically subject to state permit!

The NMMA is lobbying congress for a revision of the law.


Oh goodie!! Another useless, unenforceable law.


Y'all better move on up to Canada while you have a chance.


We are hoping our *left coast* breaks away from the US mainland and floats
away. ;-)


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We are hoping our *left coast* breaks away from the US mainland and floats
away. ;-)


Don't know how we could live without the Academy Awards.


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We are hoping our *left coast* breaks away from the US mainland and
floats away. ;-)


Don't know how we could live without the Academy Awards.


They'd just be held in Denver....


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On Feb 27, 3:22�pm, "JimH" wrote:
"Don White" wrote in message

...







"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
Chuck Gould wrote:
According to an item in the Marine Business Journal, a legal decision
in a lawsuit pressed by a group called "Northwest Envionmental
Advocates" has potential implications for every pleasure boater
operating in US waters.


In an effort to prohibit the discharge of ballast water from foreign
vessels (and reduce the liklihood of introducing foreign plants and
animals to local eco-systems) the Environmental Advocates sucessfully
argued that any vessel discharging any liquid or material of any type
must first obtain a permit from the state in which the discharge is
going to take place. (As a condition of granting the permit, most
states will demand the right to inspect the vessel, ensure that all
available pollution controls are installed and properly maintained,
and may even want to monitor the discharge- at the vessel's expense).


One small oversight: Unlike previous versions of similar regulations,
the legal ruling does not exempt pleasure vessels from the requirement
to obtain a discharge permit.
As a result, everything from cooling water cycling through an engine
to water running off of a deck can be considered a "discharge" and is
technically subject to state permit!


The NMMA is lobbying congress for a revision of the law.


Oh goodie!! *Another useless, unenforceable law.


Y'all better move on up to Canada while you have a chance.


We are hoping our *left coast* breaks away from the US mainland and floats
away. *;-)- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


So right you are.

And just what would the remaining 45 contiguous states do if they lost
the three states that raise the average national IQ nearly 15 points
and represent about 20% of the wealth? :-)

("Celebrate" is not the answer I have in mind). :-)



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Chuck Gould wrote:
On Feb 27, 3:22�pm, "JimH" wrote:
"Don White" wrote in message

...







"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
. ..
Chuck Gould wrote:
According to an item in the Marine Business Journal, a legal decision
in a lawsuit pressed by a group called "Northwest Envionmental
Advocates" has potential implications for every pleasure boater
operating in US waters.
In an effort to prohibit the discharge of ballast water from foreign
vessels (and reduce the liklihood of introducing foreign plants and
animals to local eco-systems) the Environmental Advocates sucessfully
argued that any vessel discharging any liquid or material of any type
must first obtain a permit from the state in which the discharge is
going to take place. (As a condition of granting the permit, most
states will demand the right to inspect the vessel, ensure that all
available pollution controls are installed and properly maintained,
and may even want to monitor the discharge- at the vessel's expense).
One small oversight: Unlike previous versions of similar regulations,
the legal ruling does not exempt pleasure vessels from the requirement
to obtain a discharge permit.
As a result, everything from cooling water cycling through an engine
to water running off of a deck can be considered a "discharge" and is
technically subject to state permit!
The NMMA is lobbying congress for a revision of the law.
Oh goodie!! �Another useless, unenforceable law.
Y'all better move on up to Canada while you have a chance.

We are hoping our *left coast* breaks away from the US mainland and floats
away. �;-)- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


So right you are.

And just what would the remaining 45 contiguous states do if they lost
the three states that raise the average national IQ nearly 15 points
and represent about 20% of the wealth? :-)

("Celebrate" is not the answer I have in mind). :-)


Celebrate would be cruel.

Laughing our collective asses off seems more appropriate.


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"Chuck Gould" wrote in message
ups.com...
On Feb 27, 3:22?pm, "JimH" wrote:
"Don White" wrote in message

...







"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
Chuck Gould wrote:
According to an item in the Marine Business Journal, a legal decision
in a lawsuit pressed by a group called "Northwest Envionmental
Advocates" has potential implications for every pleasure boater
operating in US waters.


In an effort to prohibit the discharge of ballast water from foreign
vessels (and reduce the liklihood of introducing foreign plants and
animals to local eco-systems) the Environmental Advocates sucessfully
argued that any vessel discharging any liquid or material of any type
must first obtain a permit from the state in which the discharge is
going to take place. (As a condition of granting the permit, most
states will demand the right to inspect the vessel, ensure that all
available pollution controls are installed and properly maintained,
and may even want to monitor the discharge- at the vessel's expense).


One small oversight: Unlike previous versions of similar regulations,
the legal ruling does not exempt pleasure vessels from the requirement
to obtain a discharge permit.
As a result, everything from cooling water cycling through an engine
to water running off of a deck can be considered a "discharge" and is
technically subject to state permit!


The NMMA is lobbying congress for a revision of the law.


Oh goodie!! Another useless, unenforceable law.


Y'all better move on up to Canada while you have a chance.


We are hoping our *left coast* breaks away from the US mainland and floats
away. ;-)- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


So right you are.
===============

Yep. And so left you are.


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"Chuck Gould" wrote in message
ups.com...
On Feb 27, 3:22?pm, "JimH" wrote:
"Don White" wrote in message

...







"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
Chuck Gould wrote:
According to an item in the Marine Business Journal, a legal decision
in a lawsuit pressed by a group called "Northwest Envionmental
Advocates" has potential implications for every pleasure boater
operating in US waters.


In an effort to prohibit the discharge of ballast water from foreign
vessels (and reduce the liklihood of introducing foreign plants and
animals to local eco-systems) the Environmental Advocates sucessfully
argued that any vessel discharging any liquid or material of any type
must first obtain a permit from the state in which the discharge is
going to take place. (As a condition of granting the permit, most
states will demand the right to inspect the vessel, ensure that all
available pollution controls are installed and properly maintained,
and may even want to monitor the discharge- at the vessel's expense).


One small oversight: Unlike previous versions of similar regulations,
the legal ruling does not exempt pleasure vessels from the requirement
to obtain a discharge permit.
As a result, everything from cooling water cycling through an engine
to water running off of a deck can be considered a "discharge" and is
technically subject to state permit!


The NMMA is lobbying congress for a revision of the law.


Oh goodie!! Another useless, unenforceable law.


Y'all better move on up to Canada while you have a chance.


We are hoping our *left coast* breaks away from the US mainland and floats
away. ;-)- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


So right you are.

And just what would the remaining 45 contiguous states do if they lost
the three states that raise the average national IQ nearly 15 points
and represent about 20% of the wealth? :-)

================

Gain back common sense, morals and integrity. ;-)


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"JimH" wrote in message
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"Chuck Gould" wrote in message
ups.com...
On Feb 27, 3:22?pm, "JimH" wrote:
"Don White" wrote in message

...







"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
Chuck Gould wrote:
According to an item in the Marine Business Journal, a legal decision
in a lawsuit pressed by a group called "Northwest Envionmental
Advocates" has potential implications for every pleasure boater
operating in US waters.


In an effort to prohibit the discharge of ballast water from foreign
vessels (and reduce the liklihood of introducing foreign plants and
animals to local eco-systems) the Environmental Advocates sucessfully
argued that any vessel discharging any liquid or material of any type
must first obtain a permit from the state in which the discharge is
going to take place. (As a condition of granting the permit, most
states will demand the right to inspect the vessel, ensure that all
available pollution controls are installed and properly maintained,
and may even want to monitor the discharge- at the vessel's expense).


One small oversight: Unlike previous versions of similar regulations,
the legal ruling does not exempt pleasure vessels from the
requirement
to obtain a discharge permit.
As a result, everything from cooling water cycling through an engine
to water running off of a deck can be considered a "discharge" and is
technically subject to state permit!


The NMMA is lobbying congress for a revision of the law.


Oh goodie!! Another useless, unenforceable law.


Y'all better move on up to Canada while you have a chance.


We are hoping our *left coast* breaks away from the US mainland and
floats
away. ;-)- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


So right you are.

And just what would the remaining 45 contiguous states do if they lost
the three states that raise the average national IQ nearly 15 points
and represent about 20% of the wealth? :-)

================

Gain back common sense, morals and integrity. ;-)


How would an OSU guy know about these things?


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"CalifBill" wrote in message
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"JimH" wrote in message
...

"Chuck Gould" wrote in message
ups.com...
On Feb 27, 3:22?pm, "JimH" wrote:
"Don White" wrote in message

...







"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
Chuck Gould wrote:
According to an item in the Marine Business Journal, a legal
decision
in a lawsuit pressed by a group called "Northwest Envionmental
Advocates" has potential implications for every pleasure boater
operating in US waters.

In an effort to prohibit the discharge of ballast water from foreign
vessels (and reduce the liklihood of introducing foreign plants and
animals to local eco-systems) the Environmental Advocates
sucessfully
argued that any vessel discharging any liquid or material of any
type
must first obtain a permit from the state in which the discharge is
going to take place. (As a condition of granting the permit, most
states will demand the right to inspect the vessel, ensure that all
available pollution controls are installed and properly maintained,
and may even want to monitor the discharge- at the vessel's
expense).

One small oversight: Unlike previous versions of similar
regulations,
the legal ruling does not exempt pleasure vessels from the
requirement
to obtain a discharge permit.
As a result, everything from cooling water cycling through an engine
to water running off of a deck can be considered a "discharge" and
is
technically subject to state permit!

The NMMA is lobbying congress for a revision of the law.

Oh goodie!! Another useless, unenforceable law.

Y'all better move on up to Canada while you have a chance.

We are hoping our *left coast* breaks away from the US mainland and
floats
away. ;-)- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


So right you are.

And just what would the remaining 45 contiguous states do if they lost
the three states that raise the average national IQ nearly 15 points
and represent about 20% of the wealth? :-)

================

Gain back common sense, morals and integrity. ;-)


How would an OSU guy know about these things?



Because I live in real America.....not in the lala land of granola, tofu and
Nancy Pelosi. ;-)


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"JimH" wrote in message
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"CalifBill" wrote in message
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"JimH" wrote in message
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"Chuck Gould" wrote in message
ups.com...
On Feb 27, 3:22?pm, "JimH" wrote:
"Don White" wrote in message

...







"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
Chuck Gould wrote:
According to an item in the Marine Business Journal, a legal
decision
in a lawsuit pressed by a group called "Northwest Envionmental
Advocates" has potential implications for every pleasure boater
operating in US waters.

In an effort to prohibit the discharge of ballast water from
foreign
vessels (and reduce the liklihood of introducing foreign plants and
animals to local eco-systems) the Environmental Advocates
sucessfully
argued that any vessel discharging any liquid or material of any
type
must first obtain a permit from the state in which the discharge is
going to take place. (As a condition of granting the permit, most
states will demand the right to inspect the vessel, ensure that all
available pollution controls are installed and properly maintained,
and may even want to monitor the discharge- at the vessel's
expense).

One small oversight: Unlike previous versions of similar
regulations,
the legal ruling does not exempt pleasure vessels from the
requirement
to obtain a discharge permit.
As a result, everything from cooling water cycling through an
engine
to water running off of a deck can be considered a "discharge" and
is
technically subject to state permit!

The NMMA is lobbying congress for a revision of the law.

Oh goodie!! Another useless, unenforceable law.

Y'all better move on up to Canada while you have a chance.

We are hoping our *left coast* breaks away from the US mainland and
floats
away. ;-)- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

So right you are.

And just what would the remaining 45 contiguous states do if they lost
the three states that raise the average national IQ nearly 15 points
and represent about 20% of the wealth? :-)

================

Gain back common sense, morals and integrity. ;-)


How would an OSU guy know about these things?



Because I live in real America.....not in the lala land of granola, tofu
and Nancy Pelosi. ;-)


OSU, penitentiary state U,is real America?




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