"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On Feb 7, 10:55 am, "Eisboch" wrote:
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How does the Sprinter do on these cold mornings?

It started fine the other day at 14 degrees after sitting without running
for about a month.
I haven't tried it on the really cold days. I don't like to start
engines
unless I am going to drive them long enough to warm up to operating temp.

My experience has been that diesels are fine until the temp gets below
zero.
The major fuel suppliers modify the fuel formulations for "winter" and
"summer" blends that adds anti-gelling properties for cold weather. Now,
if
you lived in Alaska or North Dakota, that would be a different story
where
the use of block heaters and additional fuel conditioners is required.

My experience with the 7.3 is different for some reason. A couple
of winters ago, I had a gel problem when the temps stayed below
10 for a few days - I didn't use the block heater and everything
gummed up. And it takes time to thaw the damn thing out.

That and I was using the Lucas diesel conditionar and that stuff
sucks big time. When I switched to Diesel Dr., things improved
and when I changed that to the Ford conditioner, no more problems.

Shortwave has a point though. Using a block heater here in New England
would surely help with the engine warm up time. Mine takes about 8 miles
of
driving before the engine temperature gauge even starts to move.
Fortunately, my truck is equipped with heated seats, so it is tolerable.
Also, although not "hot" ... the heater does start to throw some warm air
within the first couple of miles, even if the gauge hasn't moved.

Greatest invention since sliced cheese.


Here's something to invent: Windshield washer that doesn't freeze, with the
vehicle just sitting in the driveway. I've lived here 25 years and never had
this problem until now. 3 weeks back, I had to drain the entire tank of
whatever crap the mechanic put in it. Went & bought some other crap, which
worked for a day when the temp was in the high 20s. This week, frozen again.
Two different brands! Next, the fancy pink stuff from Armorall or whoever
makes it.

"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
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Here's something to invent: Windshield washer that doesn't freeze, with
the vehicle just sitting in the driveway. I've lived here 25 years and
never had this problem until now. 3 weeks back, I had to drain the entire
tank of whatever crap the mechanic put in it. Went & bought some other
crap, which worked for a day when the temp was in the high 20s. This week,
frozen again. Two different brands! Next, the fancy pink stuff from
Armorall or whoever makes it.



I was just reading about this in another NG. Apparently ( I never noticed
this ) there is a "summer" windshield washer fluid that looks just like
the winter stuff (same blue color) but is only good to 32 degrees. Maybe
you got some of the wrong stuff.

Eisboch

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"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
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Here's something to invent: Windshield washer that doesn't freeze, with
the vehicle just sitting in the driveway. I've lived here 25 years and
never had this problem until now. 3 weeks back, I had to drain the entire
tank of whatever crap the mechanic put in it. Went & bought some other
crap, which worked for a day when the temp was in the high 20s. This
week, frozen again. Two different brands! Next, the fancy pink stuff from
Armorall or whoever makes it.



I was just reading about this in another NG. Apparently ( I never noticed
this ) there is a "summer" windshield washer fluid that looks just like
the winter stuff (same blue color) but is only good to 32 degrees. Maybe
you got some of the wrong stuff.

Eisboch



The latest bottle says it's good to -25 F. !!! What a crock. And again,
this is while standing still. No wind chill.

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Here's something to invent: Windshield washer that doesn't freeze, with
the vehicle just sitting in the driveway. I've lived here 25 years and
never had this problem until now. 3 weeks back, I had to drain the
entire tank of whatever crap the mechanic put in it. Went & bought some
other crap, which worked for a day when the temp was in the high 20s.
This week, frozen again. Two different brands! Next, the fancy pink
stuff from Armorall or whoever makes it.



I was just reading about this in another NG. Apparently ( I never
noticed this ) there is a "summer" windshield washer fluid that looks
just like the winter stuff (same blue color) but is only good to 32
degrees. Maybe you got some of the wrong stuff.

Eisboch



The latest bottle says it's good to -25 F. !!! What a crock. And again,
this is while standing still. No wind chill.


I refuse to enter into a "wind chill" debate about non-living objects.

Eisboch

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Here's something to invent: Windshield washer that doesn't freeze, with
the vehicle just sitting in the driveway. I've lived here 25 years and
never had this problem until now. 3 weeks back, I had to drain the
entire tank of whatever crap the mechanic put in it. Went & bought some
other crap, which worked for a day when the temp was in the high 20s.
This week, frozen again. Two different brands! Next, the fancy pink
stuff from Armorall or whoever makes it.



I was just reading about this in another NG. Apparently ( I never
noticed this ) there is a "summer" windshield washer fluid that looks
just like the winter stuff (same blue color) but is only good to 32
degrees. Maybe you got some of the wrong stuff.

Eisboch



The latest bottle says it's good to -25 F. !!! What a crock. And again,
this is while standing still. No wind chill.


I refuse to enter into a "wind chill" debate about non-living objects.

Eisboch

I agree. The label on the blue crap disagrees, but who cares? Whoever mixed
the stuff was lying. Maybe I'll dump a bottle of 151 rum into the tank.

On Feb 7, 11:28 am, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:
"Eisboch" wrote in message

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"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
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Here's something to invent: Windshield washer that doesn't freeze, with
the vehicle just sitting in the driveway. I've lived here 25 years and
never had this problem until now. 3 weeks back, I had to drain the
entire tank of whatever crap the mechanic put in it. Went & bought some
other crap, which worked for a day when the temp was in the high 20s.
This week, frozen again. Two different brands! Next, the fancy pink
stuff from Armorall or whoever makes it.

I was just reading about this in another NG. Apparently ( I never
noticed this ) there is a "summer" windshield washer fluid that looks
just like the winter stuff (same blue color) but is only good to 32
degrees. Maybe you got some of the wrong stuff.

Eisboch

The latest bottle says it's good to -25 F. !!! What a crock. And again,
this is while standing still. No wind chill.

I refuse to enter into a "wind chill" debate about non-living objects.

Eisboch

I agree. The label on the blue crap disagrees, but who cares? Whoever mixed
the stuff was lying. Maybe I'll dump a bottle of 151 rum into the tank.- Hide quoted text -

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There you go. Add diaquiri mix and you can drain it in the
spring and drink it!!

On Feb 7, 11:25 am, "Eisboch" wrote:
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"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
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Here's something to invent: Windshield washer that doesn't freeze, with
the vehicle just sitting in the driveway. I've lived here 25 years and
never had this problem until now. 3 weeks back, I had to drain the
entire tank of whatever crap the mechanic put in it. Went & bought some
other crap, which worked for a day when the temp was in the high 20s.
This week, frozen again. Two different brands! Next, the fancy pink
stuff from Armorall or whoever makes it.

I was just reading about this in another NG. Apparently ( I never
noticed this ) there is a "summer" windshield washer fluid that looks
just like the winter stuff (same blue color) but is only good to 32
degrees. Maybe you got some of the wrong stuff.

Eisboch

The latest bottle says it's good to -25 F. !!! What a crock. And again,
this is while standing still. No wind chill.

I refuse to enter into a "wind chill" debate about non-living objects.

Eisboch- Hide quoted text -

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ROTFL!!!

On Feb 7, 12:17 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:
"Eisboch" wrote in message

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"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
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Here's something to invent: Windshield washer that doesn't freeze, with
the vehicle just sitting in the driveway. I've lived here 25 years and
never had this problem until now. 3 weeks back, I had to drain the entire
tank of whatever crap the mechanic put in it. Went & bought some other
crap, which worked for a day when the temp was in the high 20s. This
week, frozen again. Two different brands! Next, the fancy pink stuff from
Armorall or whoever makes it.

I was just reading about this in another NG. Apparently ( I never noticed
this ) there is a "summer" windshield washer fluid that looks just like
the winter stuff (same blue color) but is only good to 32 degrees. Maybe
you got some of the wrong stuff.

Eisboch

The latest bottle says it's good to -25 F. !!! What a crock. And again,
this is while standing still. No wind chill.


Only living animals are subject to wind chill.

"JimH" wrote in message
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On Feb 7, 12:17 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:
"Eisboch" wrote in message

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"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
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Here's something to invent: Windshield washer that doesn't freeze,
with
the vehicle just sitting in the driveway. I've lived here 25 years and
never had this problem until now. 3 weeks back, I had to drain the
entire
tank of whatever crap the mechanic put in it. Went & bought some other
crap, which worked for a day when the temp was in the high 20s. This
week, frozen again. Two different brands! Next, the fancy pink stuff
from
Armorall or whoever makes it.

I was just reading about this in another NG. Apparently ( I never
noticed
this ) there is a "summer" windshield washer fluid that looks just
like
the winter stuff (same blue color) but is only good to 32 degrees.
Maybe
you got some of the wrong stuff.

Eisboch

The latest bottle says it's good to -25 F. !!! What a crock. And again,
this is while standing still. No wind chill.


Only living animals are subject to wind chill.



Question: If you put a liquid on a surface, and subject both to moving air,
will the surface be cooled by the evaporation of the liquid?

JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"JimH" wrote in message
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On Feb 7, 12:17 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:
"Eisboch" wrote in message

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"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
news Here's something to invent: Windshield washer that doesn't freeze,
with
the vehicle just sitting in the driveway. I've lived here 25 years and
never had this problem until now. 3 weeks back, I had to drain the
entire
tank of whatever crap the mechanic put in it. Went & bought some other
crap, which worked for a day when the temp was in the high 20s. This
week, frozen again. Two different brands! Next, the fancy pink stuff
from
Armorall or whoever makes it.
I was just reading about this in another NG. Apparently ( I never
noticed
this ) there is a "summer" windshield washer fluid that looks just
like
the winter stuff (same blue color) but is only good to 32 degrees.
Maybe
you got some of the wrong stuff.
Eisboch
The latest bottle says it's good to -25 F. !!! What a crock. And again,
this is while standing still. No wind chill.

Only living animals are subject to wind chill.



Question: If you put a liquid on a surface, and subject both to moving air,
will the surface be cooled by the evaporation of the liquid?



The real question is, if you have a water fountain outside, will the
water pressure be less, resulting in more lip to fountain contact in
cold weather?
Will the wind chill reduce the water pressure even more?