Chilly Diesel Problems
 

"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
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Here's something to invent: Windshield washer that doesn't freeze, with
the vehicle just sitting in the driveway. I've lived here 25 years and
never had this problem until now. 3 weeks back, I had to drain the entire
tank of whatever crap the mechanic put in it. Went & bought some other
crap, which worked for a day when the temp was in the high 20s. This week,
frozen again. Two different brands! Next, the fancy pink stuff from
Armorall or whoever makes it.



I was just reading about this in another NG. Apparently ( I never noticed
this ) there is a "summer" windshield washer fluid that looks just like
the winter stuff (same blue color) but is only good to 32 degrees. Maybe
you got some of the wrong stuff.

Eisboch

Chilly Diesel Problems
 

"Eisboch" wrote in message
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"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
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Here's something to invent: Windshield washer that doesn't freeze, with
the vehicle just sitting in the driveway. I've lived here 25 years and
never had this problem until now. 3 weeks back, I had to drain the entire
tank of whatever crap the mechanic put in it. Went & bought some other
crap, which worked for a day when the temp was in the high 20s. This
week, frozen again. Two different brands! Next, the fancy pink stuff from
Armorall or whoever makes it.



I was just reading about this in another NG. Apparently ( I never noticed
this ) there is a "summer" windshield washer fluid that looks just like
the winter stuff (same blue color) but is only good to 32 degrees. Maybe
you got some of the wrong stuff.

Eisboch



The latest bottle says it's good to -25 F. !!! What a crock. And again,
this is while standing still. No wind chill.

Chilly Diesel Problems
 

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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And you know that the second you sell the Navigator, you'll
be looking for another boat.

Come on - admit it. :)


We shall see. Right now the plan is to use the GB for at least a season and
see how it fits.

I also have to decide what to do with the Scout that is sitting out in the
yard. I keep thinking I'll use it ... but never do. It's a shame .. only
20 hours or so on the engine. Maybe the best thing is to clean it up, have
it serviced and sell it.

Contrary to popular belief, he with the most toys doesn't win .... he just
ends up with a yard full of unused toys.

Eisboch

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"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
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"Eisboch" wrote in message
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"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
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Here's something to invent: Windshield washer that doesn't freeze, with
the vehicle just sitting in the driveway. I've lived here 25 years and
never had this problem until now. 3 weeks back, I had to drain the
entire tank of whatever crap the mechanic put in it. Went & bought some
other crap, which worked for a day when the temp was in the high 20s.
This week, frozen again. Two different brands! Next, the fancy pink
stuff from Armorall or whoever makes it.



I was just reading about this in another NG. Apparently ( I never
noticed this ) there is a "summer" windshield washer fluid that looks
just like the winter stuff (same blue color) but is only good to 32
degrees. Maybe you got some of the wrong stuff.

Eisboch



The latest bottle says it's good to -25 F. !!! What a crock. And again,
this is while standing still. No wind chill.


I refuse to enter into a "wind chill" debate about non-living objects.

Eisboch

Chilly Diesel Problems
 

"Eisboch" wrote in message
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"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
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"Eisboch" wrote in message
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"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
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Here's something to invent: Windshield washer that doesn't freeze, with
the vehicle just sitting in the driveway. I've lived here 25 years and
never had this problem until now. 3 weeks back, I had to drain the
entire tank of whatever crap the mechanic put in it. Went & bought some
other crap, which worked for a day when the temp was in the high 20s.
This week, frozen again. Two different brands! Next, the fancy pink
stuff from Armorall or whoever makes it.



I was just reading about this in another NG. Apparently ( I never
noticed this ) there is a "summer" windshield washer fluid that looks
just like the winter stuff (same blue color) but is only good to 32
degrees. Maybe you got some of the wrong stuff.

Eisboch



The latest bottle says it's good to -25 F. !!! What a crock. And again,
this is while standing still. No wind chill.


I refuse to enter into a "wind chill" debate about non-living objects.

Eisboch

I agree. The label on the blue crap disagrees, but who cares? Whoever mixed
the stuff was lying. Maybe I'll dump a bottle of 151 rum into the tank.

Chilly Diesel Problems
 

On Feb 7, 12:17 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:
"Eisboch" wrote in message

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"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
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Here's something to invent: Windshield washer that doesn't freeze, with
the vehicle just sitting in the driveway. I've lived here 25 years and
never had this problem until now. 3 weeks back, I had to drain the entire
tank of whatever crap the mechanic put in it. Went & bought some other
crap, which worked for a day when the temp was in the high 20s. This
week, frozen again. Two different brands! Next, the fancy pink stuff from
Armorall or whoever makes it.

I was just reading about this in another NG. Apparently ( I never noticed
this ) there is a "summer" windshield washer fluid that looks just like
the winter stuff (same blue color) but is only good to 32 degrees. Maybe
you got some of the wrong stuff.

Eisboch

The latest bottle says it's good to -25 F. !!! What a crock. And again,
this is while standing still. No wind chill.


Only living animals are subject to wind chill.

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"JimH" wrote in message
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On Feb 7, 12:17 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:
"Eisboch" wrote in message

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"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
...

Here's something to invent: Windshield washer that doesn't freeze,
with
the vehicle just sitting in the driveway. I've lived here 25 years and
never had this problem until now. 3 weeks back, I had to drain the
entire
tank of whatever crap the mechanic put in it. Went & bought some other
crap, which worked for a day when the temp was in the high 20s. This
week, frozen again. Two different brands! Next, the fancy pink stuff
from
Armorall or whoever makes it.

I was just reading about this in another NG. Apparently ( I never
noticed
this ) there is a "summer" windshield washer fluid that looks just
like
the winter stuff (same blue color) but is only good to 32 degrees.
Maybe
you got some of the wrong stuff.

Eisboch

The latest bottle says it's good to -25 F. !!! What a crock. And again,
this is while standing still. No wind chill.


Only living animals are subject to wind chill.



Question: If you put a liquid on a surface, and subject both to moving air,
will the surface be cooled by the evaporation of the liquid?

Chilly Diesel Problems
 

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Feb 7, 9:10 am, "Eisboch" wrote:
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in ooglegroups.com...





On Feb 7, 7:44 am, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:
News here says lots of school bus operators are having problems with fuel
gelling in the fuel filters because of low-sulphur fuel. They can't get
enough kerosene for some reason. What's in the big containers of diesel
additives I've seen for sale at truck stops? Kerosene? Other? Not
suitable
for educational (school bus) use?
Do they use block heaters? Additives?
Kerosene should be added at the fuel distribution point - it
is here.
They may not have the mix right - around here, it's about
18/22%.
This is the first year I haven't had a gel problem - I'm using
the Ford diesel fuel additive as opposed to the Lucas additive
I used to use in the winter. Seems to work better.
I haven't had any starting problems at all so far in the F-350 using ULS
fuel and no block heater. Even on the 5 degree mornings of last week it
started ok. It cranked a little slower, but fired up, shook a bit for a few
seconds, then settled in.

Takes a while to get it up to operating temperature though. Fast idle won't
do it.- Hide quoted text -

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The wonders of block heaters. When I start off on morning
patrol, it's warm by the time I hit the end of the road (1.3 miles)
and I've got heat in the cab 1/4 mile later.

The 7.3 is a tough start when it's cold - the preheater only
does two cylinders and when it's really cold, the truck
actually lurches until enough compression builds up to
fire off the other cylinders. With the ULS fuel, it's worse
than it used to be, so I started using the block heater.
Starts just peachy cool fine, smooth and like I said - heat
a lot faster.

The one problem I'm having with this cold snap is the
transmission - takes a while for it to warm up and shift
properly.

Maybe it's time to change the transmission oil.


I change my transmission oil every 30,000, and have never had any
problems, but then again, you are a tab bit colder than I am.

Chilly Diesel Problems
 

JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"JimH" wrote in message
ups.com...
On Feb 7, 12:17 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:
"Eisboch" wrote in message

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"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
...
Here's something to invent: Windshield washer that doesn't freeze,
with
the vehicle just sitting in the driveway. I've lived here 25 years and
never had this problem until now. 3 weeks back, I had to drain the
entire
tank of whatever crap the mechanic put in it. Went & bought some other
crap, which worked for a day when the temp was in the high 20s. This
week, frozen again. Two different brands! Next, the fancy pink stuff
from
Armorall or whoever makes it.
I was just reading about this in another NG. Apparently ( I never
noticed
this ) there is a "summer" windshield washer fluid that looks just
like
the winter stuff (same blue color) but is only good to 32 degrees.
Maybe
you got some of the wrong stuff.
Eisboch
The latest bottle says it's good to -25 F. !!! What a crock. And again,
this is while standing still. No wind chill.

Only living animals are subject to wind chill.



Question: If you put a liquid on a surface, and subject both to moving air,
will the surface be cooled by the evaporation of the liquid?



The real question is, if you have a water fountain outside, will the
water pressure be less, resulting in more lip to fountain contact in
cold weather?
Will the wind chill reduce the water pressure even more?

Chilly Diesel Problems
 

On Wed, 7 Feb 2007 11:55:13 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:

My experience has been that diesels are fine until the temp gets below zero.

Yes. We had a diesel car for a while when we were living in the
'burbs NE of NYC. There was a cold snap on Christmas morning sometime
in the early '80s, with the temperature about 5 below. We were headed
for Connecticut and got about a mile from the house before it died
from congealed fuel, only time we ever had a problem. It started up
fine later that day after the weather had warmed up.