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Remind me not to argue water vapor properties with you.
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I prefer to call it a "discussion".
Except, I am right. :-)

Eisboch

Hey guys. Lets get serious. I need help. I've been trying to wind chill a
beer for several days now. So far I haven't been able to reduce the brew's
temp. below ambient, no matter how many fans I have blowing on it. I even
tried to spritz it with water. Nothing I've tried works. I thought you
guys were on to something with this wind chill theory, but alas, it's just
a bunch of hot air.
Jim


Mythbusters on cooling a 6 pack of beer:

http://kwc.org/mythbusters/2005/03/m...a_sixpack.html

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Hey guys. Lets get serious. I need help. I've been trying to wind chill
a beer for several days now. So far I haven't been able to reduce the
brew's temp. below ambient, no matter how many fans I have blowing on
it. I even tried to spritz it with water. Nothing I've tried works. I
thought you guys were on to something with this wind chill theory, but
alas, it's just a bunch of hot air.
Jim


Buy yourself a vacuum chamber. I probably could arrange a modest
discount.

Eisboch

Just what I need. An Electrolux on steroids. ;-)
Jim


Past girlfriend....

....never mind.

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On Feb 8, 4:16 pm, "Jim" wrote:



Just what I need. An Electrolux on steroids. ;-)


You mean a bagpipe?

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Remind me not to argue water vapor properties with you.
--


I prefer to call it a "discussion".
Except, I am right. :-)

Eisboch

Hey guys. Lets get serious. I need help. I've been trying to wind chill a
beer for several days now. So far I haven't been able to reduce the brew's
temp. below ambient, no matter how many fans I have blowing on it. I even
tried to spritz it with water. Nothing I've tried works. I thought you
guys were on to something with this wind chill theory, but alas, it's just
a bunch of hot air.
Jim


Dip it in Freon Cleaning solvent (not available anymore to the public) and
in 70 degree day the evaporation will cause frost.

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Wind Chill. I do not think it refers to living tissue. I think the
definition is how much heat transfer would occur in still air vs. Moving
air. some low speed of air. -15 degrees with a wind chill of -30, says
the same heat loss would occur if the temp was -30 and no wind movement.
Nothing to do with evaporation but with the tendency of the air to heat
up near the warmer object, slowing down heat transfer.


The term "Wind Chill" applies *only* to living tissue. It refers to the
rate of cooling (limited by the ambient temperature) that occurs to
exposed living tissue. The increased rate of cooling can exceed the
living tissue's ability to replace the heat lost and things like frostbite
can quickly occur.

The wind can't make it colder. It only makes the rate of heat transfer
and cooling of the object faster. Heat transfer is higher in turbulent
flow.

Eisboch


Did not realize it applied only to human tissue. Thought it was just a rate
of heat transfer regards air movement.

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What about when it hits the windshield, under those same conditions?


Wind will cause an object to lose heat faster ... but will not cool it
below the ambient temperature.

The evaporation of a liquid is a state change whereby energy is used and
heat is given off.

Wind chill is a measurement of rapid cooling of living tissue.

Eisboch

Wind Chill. I do not think it refers to living tissue.

It is something that *only* living tissue can experience.


According to the definition, correct. But wind chill effect is also found
on beer cans, etc. a breeze at 15 knots and 34 degrees will cool the beer a
lot faster than just putting the beer in a 15 degree enviroment.

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What about when it hits the windshield, under those same conditions?


Wind will cause an object to lose heat faster ... but will not cool it
below the ambient temperature.

The evaporation of a liquid is a state change whereby energy is used
and heat is given off.

Wind chill is a measurement of rapid cooling of living tissue.

Eisboch

Wind Chill. I do not think it refers to living tissue.

It is something that *only* living tissue can experience.


According to the definition, correct. But wind chill effect is also found
on beer cans, etc. a breeze at 15 knots and 34 degrees will cool the beer
a lot faster than just putting the beer in a 15 degree enviroment.


Ummmmmmm........yeah...........sure.

But I prefer the mythbusters
method........http://kwc.org/mythbusters/2005/03/m...a_sixpack.html

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Wind Chill. I do not think it refers to living tissue. I think the
definition is how much heat transfer would occur in still air vs. Moving
air. some low speed of air. -15 degrees with a wind chill of -30, says
the same heat loss would occur if the temp was -30 and no wind movement.
Nothing to do with evaporation but with the tendency of the air to heat
up near the warmer object, slowing down heat transfer.


The term "Wind Chill" applies *only* to living tissue. It refers to the
rate of cooling (limited by the ambient temperature) that occurs to
exposed living tissue. The increased rate of cooling can exceed the
living tissue's ability to replace the heat lost and things like
frostbite can quickly occur.

The wind can't make it colder. It only makes the rate of heat transfer
and cooling of the object faster. Heat transfer is higher in turbulent
flow.

Eisboch


Did not realize it applied only to human tissue. Thought it was just a
rate of heat transfer regards air movement.


Glad to see you finally got it. :-)

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Wind Chill. I do not think it refers to living tissue. I think the
definition is how much heat transfer would occur in still air vs.
Moving air. some low speed of air. -15 degrees with a wind chill
of -30, says the same heat loss would occur if the temp was -30 and no
wind movement. Nothing to do with evaporation but with the tendency of
the air to heat up near the warmer object, slowing down heat transfer.


The term "Wind Chill" applies *only* to living tissue. It refers to the
rate of cooling (limited by the ambient temperature) that occurs to
exposed living tissue. The increased rate of cooling can exceed the
living tissue's ability to replace the heat lost and things like
frostbite can quickly occur.

The wind can't make it colder. It only makes the rate of heat transfer
and cooling of the object faster. Heat transfer is higher in turbulent
flow.

Eisboch


Did not realize it applied only to human tissue. Thought it was just a
rate of heat transfer regards air movement.


Glad to see you finally got it. :-)



actually is the same whether it is tissue or beer cans.

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Wind Chill. I do not think it refers to living tissue. I think the
definition is how much heat transfer would occur in still air vs.
Moving air. some low speed of air. -15 degrees with a wind chill
of -30, says the same heat loss would occur if the temp was -30 and no
wind movement. Nothing to do with evaporation but with the tendency of
the air to heat up near the warmer object, slowing down heat transfer.


The term "Wind Chill" applies *only* to living tissue. It refers to
the rate of cooling (limited by the ambient temperature) that occurs to
exposed living tissue. The increased rate of cooling can exceed the
living tissue's ability to replace the heat lost and things like
frostbite can quickly occur.

The wind can't make it colder. It only makes the rate of heat transfer
and cooling of the object faster. Heat transfer is higher in turbulent
flow.

Eisboch


Did not realize it applied only to human tissue. Thought it was just a
rate of heat transfer regards air movement.


Glad to see you finally got it. :-)



actually is the same whether it is tissue or beer cans.


sigh