"Reginald P. Smithers III" wrote in message
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Tim wrote:
What did I do wrong Reggie.

i signed up for a hotmail acct, and went through the usual channels (I
thought) and went to newsgroups, typed in rec.boats, and here I am,
right back on Google.

where did I mess up?

Download Thunderbird and install it on your computer. check with your ISP
to get the name of the Newsgroup server.

http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/thunderbird/


All ISPs do not provide Usenet as part of their offering.

On 23 Jan 2007 15:49:45 -0800, "Tim" wrote:

Well, i come home, and key in to rec boats, and looks like google has
completely changed its format. I'm not against change, but this I
dont' care for. supposedly "new and improved" but harder to navigate.

I don't like it. Dont' like it one bit? Anybody else out there use
Google? Anybody else disatisfied?

Switch to Agent. At $30 it's a good deal.

"Tim" wrote in message
oups.com...
Well, i come home, and key in to rec boats, and looks like google has
completely changed its format. I'm not against change, but this I
dont' care for. supposedly "new and improved" but harder to navigate.

I don't like it. Dont' like it one bit? Anybody else out there use
Google? Anybody else disatisfied?


Why not see if your ISP offers NG service using OE? Mine always has. It
does not come with all the bells and whistles a pay for NG reader does but
it works fine for me...................and it is free.

D.Duck wrote:

All ISPs do not provide Usenet as part of their offering.

That's what I found out. My small provider doesn't carry Groups, Soooo,

looks like I'm stuck with Google, or Pay-per-View.

"Tim" wrote in message
ups.com...

D.Duck wrote:

All ISPs do not provide Usenet as part of their offering.

That's what I found out. My small provider doesn't carry Groups, Soooo,

looks like I'm stuck with Google, or Pay-per-View.


There are some free news group providers. I've never tried them but you may
want to Google for free Usenet servers and give it a try.

On Jan 23, 3:49*pm, "Tim" wrote:
Well, i come home, and key in to rec boats, and looks like google has
completely changed its format. *I'm not against change, but this I
dont' care for. supposedly "new and improved" but harder to navigate.

I don't like it. * Dont' like it one bit? *Anybody else out there use
Google? Anybody else disatisfied?

I use Google, but I'm a serious neanderthal when it comes to computing.
I use a computer because they have replaced typewriters, and because
they are dominating the field of casual communication. The average
12-year old knows more than most adults about computers, and the
average 9-year old knows more than I do.

Try collapsing the list of threads on the left hand side. That makes
the posts a lot more readable. Trying to display both at once seems to
put the posts into a one-column format, and it is tedious to read 3-4
words and then have to drop a line for the rest of the phrase.

Give it 3-4 days and it will probably seem normal. I was put off by the
change initially, but sometimes it can be easy to be put off merely
because something *has* changed, even if with a bit of practice and
experience it will become evident that the change was for the better.

On Tue, 23 Jan '07 20:42:57 -0500, Gene Kearns wrote:
since the release of Agent 4.0, Free Agent has been
discontinued...

Free Agent is still available. The last standalone version is 1.21
IIRC, available he
http://freepctech.com/rode/018.shtml

Later versions also available in places like:
http://mirrors.easynews.com//agent/f...agent/english/

The only option I miss with Free Agent is "Mail".... maybe filter
capabilty too. But it beats the hell outta trying to read
Googlegroups, that's for sure.

As far as free news servers, I use Bubba News on the road (My
Bellsouth ISP won't allow news server connection from elsewhere, even
though I pay them for it). Bubba News charges $3.95 to register but
free after that. So far I've been happy with them. I don't know what
the capacity for the free service is, prolly not much (they offer
higher limits with their "pay" service), but I don't do binaries so
I've never hit their "free" limit.
http://www.bubbanews.com/

Rick

Chuck, you have a point there.

Presently I'm posting on my work computer, and its still on Windows98.
while at home I have XP. maybe thats a difference, but the "new"
Google format seems more friendly on this old clunker, than it doe's at
home.

I don't know why, but on this box the "new" seems like the "old"
format.

hmmmm.


I'm also very computer unsavy. I confess.

JimH I will investigate Outlook Express, and have my 16 yr. old
daughter see if she can line me up with it.



Chuck Gould wrote:
On Jan 23, 3:49 pm, "Tim" wrote:

I use Google, but I'm a serious neanderthal when it comes to computing.
I use a computer because they have replaced typewriters, and because
they are dominating the field of casual communication. The average
12-year old knows more than most adults about computers, and the
average 9-year old knows more than I do.

Try collapsing the list of threads on the left hand side. That makes
the posts a lot more readable. Trying to display both at once seems to
put the posts into a one-column format, and it is tedious to read 3-4
words and then have to drop a line for the rest of the phrase.

Give it 3-4 days and it will probably seem normal. I was put off by the
change initially, but sometimes it can be easy to be put off merely
because something *has* changed, even if with a bit of practice and
experience it will become evident that the change was for the better.

"Tim" wrote in message
oups.com...
Chuck, you have a point there.

Presently I'm posting on my work computer, and its still on Windows98.
while at home I have XP. maybe thats a difference, but the "new"
Google format seems more friendly on this old clunker, than it doe's at
home.

I don't know why, but on this box the "new" seems like the "old"
format.

hmmmm.


I'm also very computer unsavy. I confess.

JimH I will investigate Outlook Express, and have my 16 yr. old
daughter see if she can line me up with it.


Who is your ISP?

BTW: OE is included with Windows operating systems including XP.

D.Duck wrote:

"Tim" wrote in message
ups.com...

D.Duck wrote:

All ISPs do not provide Usenet as part of their offering.

That's what I found out. My small provider doesn't carry Groups, Soooo,

looks like I'm stuck with Google, or Pay-per-View.



There are some free news group providers. I've never tried them but you may
want to Google for free Usenet servers and give it a try.

www.teranews.com One-time setup fee of four bucks. Fine for reading
newsgroups, 50Meg a day download limit, so you might even download a few
binaries.

DT