Harry Krause wrote:

On 1/7/2007 7:57 AM, Varis wrote:

JohnH wrote:

The dictionary defines investment as: : the outlay of money usually for
income or profit : capital outlay; also : the sum invested or the
property
purchased.

Notice the word *usually*. Some of us make an investment in a boat
knowing
we're going to lose our shorts!


Ironically enough some people make money by investing in boats.
Professionals who buy low, fix up and sell high are one thing. But
around here boat prices have been on the rise so much that a few people
get more from their old boat than they paid!

Risto
Helsinki, Finland



It's your semi-socialist economy. You have a growing middle class. We
have a shrinking one.

Harry's right. We still have labor unions. Go figure...

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"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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On 1/6/2007 9:18 PM, NOYB wrote:
"JohnH" wrote in message
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On Sat, 06 Jan 2007 01:44:56 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

On 5 Jan 2007 16:46:33 -0800, "JimH" wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On 5 Jan 2007 06:54:00 -0800, "Varis" wrote:

Or alternatively I could go for compact generic travel binoculars at
first (7x25 or 8x20
7x25 is all you need for a small boat - range finding binocs are
useless.

Stabilised binocs are fine, but they vary in technique from wet bag
to
gyro stabilised. The gyro binocs are the best.

But for a small boat, go with the 7x25s.
I have a pair of 7x35 Nikon's I purchased for less than $50 on sale
from a boat store. They have never failed me for my recreational
needs.

Why folks seem to think they have to spend big bucks for these things
is beyond me.
There have been times where I could have used a set of gyro stabilized
binoculars - hasn't been often though.

If I had my druthers, I'd opt for a good set of light amplifying
binoculars for night viewing.
And, if you can easily afford the best, why settle for something well
down
the line. The Canon 10 x42 stabilized is a fine pair of binoculars!
--


I have Canon's image-stabilized 10x30's and they're awesome.





Speaking of awesome, I was at my friend the dentist's office the other
day, and he showed me a milling machine that makes crowns right in his
office, and some other neat new stuff.

CEREC. It's cool technology, but there are some limitations with it.

It's not capable of making a crown as esthetic as a lab-fabricated
one...unless you do your own in-office porcelain staining. Then you end up
doing lab work instead of income-producing tasks like seeing additional
patients.

It also costs $100k...or $2000/mo. for 60 months. You'd have to do 17
single unit crowns/mo. just to break even (assuming your lab bill for
lab-fabricated crowns runs about $125/unit). Those 17 crowns don't include
bridges because the CEREC cannot do bridges yet. And it doesn't include
veneers or anterior (front teeth) crowns (unless you're staining them
in-office as mentioned before).

It's gee-whiz technology at this point, useful mostly for the "wow" factor.
They try to tell the dentists that it will make us more profitable, but the
ROI just isn't there IMO.

"JohnH" wrote in message
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On Sun, 07 Jan 2007 02:18:08 GMT, "NOYB" wrote:


"JohnH" wrote in message
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On Sat, 06 Jan 2007 01:44:56 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

On 5 Jan 2007 16:46:33 -0800, "JimH" wrote:


Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On 5 Jan 2007 06:54:00 -0800, "Varis" wrote:

Or alternatively I could go for compact generic travel binoculars at
first (7x25 or 8x20

7x25 is all you need for a small boat - range finding binocs are
useless.

Stabilised binocs are fine, but they vary in technique from wet bag
to
gyro stabilised. The gyro binocs are the best.

But for a small boat, go with the 7x25s.

I have a pair of 7x35 Nikon's I purchased for less than $50 on sale
from a boat store. They have never failed me for my recreational
needs.

Why folks seem to think they have to spend big bucks for these things
is beyond me.

There have been times where I could have used a set of gyro stabilized
binoculars - hasn't been often though.

If I had my druthers, I'd opt for a good set of light amplifying
binoculars for night viewing.

And, if you can easily afford the best, why settle for something well
down
the line. The Canon 10 x42 stabilized is a fine pair of binoculars!
--


I have Canon's image-stabilized 10x30's and they're awesome.



Amen! I see no reason to scrimp if you can afford the good stuff. Of
course, you'll catch some heat for having something worthwhile. But,
jealously has reared its ugly head with you many times anyway!
--

They run about $400...which is not that expensive considering all of the
other costs for a boat.

NOYB wrote:


Speaking of awesome, I was at my friend the dentist's office the other
day, and he showed me a milling machine that makes crowns right in his
office, and some other neat new stuff.

CEREC. It's cool technology, but there are some limitations with it.

It's not capable of making a crown as esthetic as a lab-fabricated
one...unless you do your own in-office porcelain staining. Then you end up
doing lab work instead of income-producing tasks like seeing additional
patients.

It also costs $100k...or $2000/mo. for 60 months. You'd have to do 17
single unit crowns/mo. just to break even (assuming your lab bill for
lab-fabricated crowns runs about $125/unit). Those 17 crowns don't include
bridges because the CEREC cannot do bridges yet. And it doesn't include
veneers or anterior (front teeth) crowns (unless you're staining them
in-office as mentioned before).

It's gee-whiz technology at this point, useful mostly for the "wow" factor.
They try to tell the dentists that it will make us more profitable, but the
ROI just isn't there IMO.

Cool A small CNC machining center in a dentists office. Who would
have imagined such a thing just 5 years ago!

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NOYB wrote:


Speaking of awesome, I was at my friend the dentist's office the other
day, and he showed me a milling machine that makes crowns right in his
office, and some other neat new stuff.

CEREC. It's cool technology, but there are some limitations with it.

It's not capable of making a crown as esthetic as a lab-fabricated
one...unless you do your own in-office porcelain staining. Then you end
up
doing lab work instead of income-producing tasks like seeing additional
patients.

It also costs $100k...or $2000/mo. for 60 months. You'd have to do 17
single unit crowns/mo. just to break even (assuming your lab bill for
lab-fabricated crowns runs about $125/unit). Those 17 crowns don't
include
bridges because the CEREC cannot do bridges yet. And it doesn't include
veneers or anterior (front teeth) crowns (unless you're staining them
in-office as mentioned before).

It's gee-whiz technology at this point, useful mostly for the "wow"
factor.
They try to tell the dentists that it will make us more profitable, but
the
ROI just isn't there IMO.

Cool A small CNC machining center in a dentists office. Who would
have imagined such a thing just 5 years ago!

Sirona would have! The CEREC has been around since 1987. They're currently
on the third generation, CEREC 3. The other 2 really weren't worth a damn.
This one isn't bad. If it were $30k instead of $100k, I'd own one by now
just for the novelty of it. But the potential ROI just isn't there yet.


http://www.cereconline.com/ecomaXL/i...=Cerec_history