I can't believe this.............
 

basskisser wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
basskisser wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
basskisser wrote:
JohnH wrote:
On Thu, 30 Nov 2006 12:57:19 -0500, "ACP" wrote:

"basskisser" wrote in message
ups.com...
Tim wrote:
ACP wrote:
Personally, I'm in the "birth" camp.
Me too!
Prove the existence of Jesus Christ to me, then I'll believe it. I
suppose you think the world is only around 6000 years old, huh? Or do
you not belive in the bible?
Believe what you will, that's your right. I haven't read anything here
where anyone was trying to change your beliefs.

Besides, proving his existence would be hard. He died.
--
John H

Do you believe the world is only 6000 years old as the bible professes?

One can believe that Jesus was born, that he lived and that he died,
without believing the world is only 6000 yrs old. Most people who do
not believe Jesus was god or a prophet believe Jesus was born about 2000
yrs ago, why don't you?
If you don't believe the earth is only 6000 years old then you can't
believe the bible! I never said that I don't believe Jesus was born
about 2000 years ago. Where did you get that idea?

I probably got that idea when you said "alleged birth" or "can you prove
the existence of Jesus". If you believe Jesus was born, there is no
"alleged birth.

Yes, I said "alleged", as in declared or stated to be as described, or
doubtful, suspect. If I had of said the false, or fake birth, one could
ASSume that I didn't believe Jesus was born. I do, however have
suspicions about the accuracy of that, hence "alleged".
For what it is worth, there are many people who believe Jesus is the son
of god, and don't believe the bible is an accurate description of
natural history.

I agree. So?

It is impossible to have a conversation with you, so I really don't know
why I bother.

I can't believe this.............
 

Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
basskisser wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
basskisser wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
basskisser wrote:
JohnH wrote:
On Thu, 30 Nov 2006 12:57:19 -0500, "ACP" wrote:

"basskisser" wrote in message
ups.com...
Tim wrote:
ACP wrote:
Personally, I'm in the "birth" camp.
Me too!
Prove the existence of Jesus Christ to me, then I'll believe it. I
suppose you think the world is only around 6000 years old, huh? Or do
you not belive in the bible?
Believe what you will, that's your right. I haven't read anything here
where anyone was trying to change your beliefs.

Besides, proving his existence would be hard. He died.
--
John H

Do you believe the world is only 6000 years old as the bible professes?

One can believe that Jesus was born, that he lived and that he died,
without believing the world is only 6000 yrs old. Most people who do
not believe Jesus was god or a prophet believe Jesus was born about 2000
yrs ago, why don't you?
If you don't believe the earth is only 6000 years old then you can't
believe the bible! I never said that I don't believe Jesus was born
about 2000 years ago. Where did you get that idea?

I probably got that idea when you said "alleged birth" or "can you prove
the existence of Jesus". If you believe Jesus was born, there is no
"alleged birth.

Yes, I said "alleged", as in declared or stated to be as described, or
doubtful, suspect. If I had of said the false, or fake birth, one could
ASSume that I didn't believe Jesus was born. I do, however have
suspicions about the accuracy of that, hence "alleged".
For what it is worth, there are many people who believe Jesus is the son
of god, and don't believe the bible is an accurate description of
natural history.

I agree. So?

It is impossible to have a conversation with you, so I really don't know
why I bother.

Why are you offended? I simply stated my case. Is there something that
you don't understand? If so, I'll clarify for you.

I can't believe this.............
 

Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
Yes I do believe an individual by the name of Jesus lived about 2000 yrs
ago, do you?

I do, and I also believe he is the only begotten Son of God. ?:-)

I can't believe this.............
 

On Fri, 01 Dec 2006 11:30:08 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
wrote:

basskisser wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
basskisser wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
basskisser wrote:
JohnH wrote:
On Thu, 30 Nov 2006 12:57:19 -0500, "ACP" wrote:

"basskisser" wrote in message
ups.com...
Tim wrote:
ACP wrote:
Personally, I'm in the "birth" camp.
Me too!
Prove the existence of Jesus Christ to me, then I'll believe it. I
suppose you think the world is only around 6000 years old, huh? Or do
you not belive in the bible?
Believe what you will, that's your right. I haven't read anything here
where anyone was trying to change your beliefs.

Besides, proving his existence would be hard. He died.
--
John H

Do you believe the world is only 6000 years old as the bible professes?

One can believe that Jesus was born, that he lived and that he died,
without believing the world is only 6000 yrs old. Most people who do
not believe Jesus was god or a prophet believe Jesus was born about 2000
yrs ago, why don't you?
If you don't believe the earth is only 6000 years old then you can't
believe the bible! I never said that I don't believe Jesus was born
about 2000 years ago. Where did you get that idea?

I probably got that idea when you said "alleged birth" or "can you prove
the existence of Jesus". If you believe Jesus was born, there is no
"alleged birth.

Yes, I said "alleged", as in declared or stated to be as described, or
doubtful, suspect. If I had of said the false, or fake birth, one could
ASSume that I didn't believe Jesus was born. I do, however have
suspicions about the accuracy of that, hence "alleged".
For what it is worth, there are many people who believe Jesus is the son
of god, and don't believe the bible is an accurate description of
natural history.

I agree. So?

It is impossible to have a conversation with you, so I really don't know
why I bother.

Sounds like the 'Ah Ha' light just came on!

I can't believe this.............
 

basskisser wrote:
Tim wrote:
ACP wrote:
Personally, I'm in the "birth" camp.

Me too!

Prove the existence of Jesus Christ to me, then I'll believe it. I
suppose you think the world is only around 6000 years old, huh? Or do
you not belive in the bible?

Boating related slant on your discussion:


Do you realize that the Bible is not a single book? It is a library of
books.

If you went down to the public library to learn about, say, boat
handling you might find one book that describes how to launch a cartop
kayak and select the proper paddle. You might find another that says
you will need a crew of 60 to properly set the sails, and still another
that describes sailing single handed. You might find another that
describes coordinating the port and starboard engines when manuevering
a power boat, and yet another that describes how to manuever with a
single screw. Are all of these books "incorrect" because they
contradict one another? Is all of the information in the library
invalid because different people at different times and from different
perspectives wrote about a variety of aspects of boat handling? Of
course not. An informed person would realize that trying to apply the
literal instructions for sailing a 19th century frigate, paddling a
kayak, operating a sailing dinghy,
or bringing a twin screw Bayliner to the dock to a different situation
or even simultaneously
on any single vessel would result in disaster. Yet each book in the
library could easily expand a reader's total awareness of boat
handling, and all are true and useful within their
specific frame of reference.

Simply because some books in the library come to different conclusions
than other books in the library or address the same topic from
different perspectives, that would hardly be a valid reason to dismiss
any of the books or the entire contents of the library as bogus.

Your reference to Genesis, for example. I absolutely believe that the
Genesis cosmology accurately reports how an ancient people expressed
their interpretation and understanding of a creative force in or for
the universe. There is a lot to be learned from that, but (IMO) the
lesson has been wasted on those who glean nothing more than some belief
that the earth is only 6000 years old or that life as we know it in
this current era emerged during a period of seven rotations of the
earth.

I can't believe this.............
 

basskisser wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
basskisser wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
basskisser wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
basskisser wrote:
JohnH wrote:
On Thu, 30 Nov 2006 12:57:19 -0500, "ACP" wrote:

"basskisser" wrote in message
ups.com...
Tim wrote:
ACP wrote:
Personally, I'm in the "birth" camp.
Me too!
Prove the existence of Jesus Christ to me, then I'll believe it. I
suppose you think the world is only around 6000 years old, huh? Or do
you not belive in the bible?
Believe what you will, that's your right. I haven't read anything here
where anyone was trying to change your beliefs.

Besides, proving his existence would be hard. He died.
--
John H

Do you believe the world is only 6000 years old as the bible professes?

One can believe that Jesus was born, that he lived and that he died,
without believing the world is only 6000 yrs old. Most people who do
not believe Jesus was god or a prophet believe Jesus was born about 2000
yrs ago, why don't you?
If you don't believe the earth is only 6000 years old then you can't
believe the bible! I never said that I don't believe Jesus was born
about 2000 years ago. Where did you get that idea?

I probably got that idea when you said "alleged birth" or "can you prove
the existence of Jesus". If you believe Jesus was born, there is no
"alleged birth.
Yes, I said "alleged", as in declared or stated to be as described, or
doubtful, suspect. If I had of said the false, or fake birth, one could
ASSume that I didn't believe Jesus was born. I do, however have
suspicions about the accuracy of that, hence "alleged".
For what it is worth, there are many people who believe Jesus is the son
of god, and don't believe the bible is an accurate description of
natural history.
I agree. So?

It is impossible to have a conversation with you, so I really don't know
why I bother.

Why are you offended? I simply stated my case. Is there something that
you don't understand? If so, I'll clarify for you.

It is your inability to follow a train of thought that is the reason why
most people have come to the conclusion you are not worth the effort.

I can't believe this.............
 

Tim wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
Yes I do believe an individual by the name of Jesus lived about 2000 yrs
ago, do you?

I do, and I also believe he is the only begotten Son of God. ?:-)

Do you think the earth is only around 6000 years old?
What evidence do you have that Jesus is real, lived about 2000 years
ago, and was the son of "God"? What evidence do you have that God
existed? I'd really like some proof positive so I too could believe it.

I can't believe this.............
 

JohnH wrote:
On Fri, 01 Dec 2006 11:30:08 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
wrote:

basskisser wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
basskisser wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
basskisser wrote:
JohnH wrote:
On Thu, 30 Nov 2006 12:57:19 -0500, "ACP" wrote:

"basskisser" wrote in message
ups.com...
Tim wrote:
ACP wrote:
Personally, I'm in the "birth" camp.
Me too!
Prove the existence of Jesus Christ to me, then I'll believe it. I
suppose you think the world is only around 6000 years old, huh? Or do
you not belive in the bible?
Believe what you will, that's your right. I haven't read anything here
where anyone was trying to change your beliefs.

Besides, proving his existence would be hard. He died.
--
John H

Do you believe the world is only 6000 years old as the bible professes?

One can believe that Jesus was born, that he lived and that he died,
without believing the world is only 6000 yrs old. Most people who do
not believe Jesus was god or a prophet believe Jesus was born about 2000
yrs ago, why don't you?
If you don't believe the earth is only 6000 years old then you can't
believe the bible! I never said that I don't believe Jesus was born
about 2000 years ago. Where did you get that idea?

I probably got that idea when you said "alleged birth" or "can you prove
the existence of Jesus". If you believe Jesus was born, there is no
"alleged birth.
Yes, I said "alleged", as in declared or stated to be as described, or
doubtful, suspect. If I had of said the false, or fake birth, one could
ASSume that I didn't believe Jesus was born. I do, however have
suspicions about the accuracy of that, hence "alleged".
For what it is worth, there are many people who believe Jesus is the son
of god, and don't believe the bible is an accurate description of
natural history.
I agree. So?

It is impossible to have a conversation with you, so I really don't know
why I bother.

Sounds like the 'Ah Ha' light just came on!

I really think that it just might be possible for him to follow a train
of thought, but it is really useless.

I can't believe this.............
 

Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
basskisser wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
basskisser wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
basskisser wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
basskisser wrote:
JohnH wrote:
On Thu, 30 Nov 2006 12:57:19 -0500, "ACP" wrote:

"basskisser" wrote in message
ups.com...
Tim wrote:
ACP wrote:
Personally, I'm in the "birth" camp.
Me too!
Prove the existence of Jesus Christ to me, then I'll believe it. I
suppose you think the world is only around 6000 years old, huh? Or do
you not belive in the bible?
Believe what you will, that's your right. I haven't read anything here
where anyone was trying to change your beliefs.

Besides, proving his existence would be hard. He died.
--
John H

Do you believe the world is only 6000 years old as the bible professes?

One can believe that Jesus was born, that he lived and that he died,
without believing the world is only 6000 yrs old. Most people who do
not believe Jesus was god or a prophet believe Jesus was born about 2000
yrs ago, why don't you?
If you don't believe the earth is only 6000 years old then you can't
believe the bible! I never said that I don't believe Jesus was born
about 2000 years ago. Where did you get that idea?

I probably got that idea when you said "alleged birth" or "can you prove
the existence of Jesus". If you believe Jesus was born, there is no
"alleged birth.
Yes, I said "alleged", as in declared or stated to be as described, or
doubtful, suspect. If I had of said the false, or fake birth, one could
ASSume that I didn't believe Jesus was born. I do, however have
suspicions about the accuracy of that, hence "alleged".
For what it is worth, there are many people who believe Jesus is the son
of god, and don't believe the bible is an accurate description of
natural history.
I agree. So?

It is impossible to have a conversation with you, so I really don't know
why I bother.

Why are you offended? I simply stated my case. Is there something that
you don't understand? If so, I'll clarify for you.

It is your inability to follow a train of thought that is the reason why
most people have come to the conclusion you are not worth the effort.

I've followed your train of thought completely. It's just that you've
ran out of data, or that you had previously misunderstood the meaning
of 'alleged'.

I can't believe this.............
 

Faith.


basskisser wrote:
Tim wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
Yes I do believe an individual by the name of Jesus lived about 2000 yrs
ago, do you?

I do, and I also believe he is the only begotten Son of God. ?:-)

Do you think the earth is only around 6000 years old?
What evidence do you have that Jesus is real, lived about 2000 years
ago, and was the son of "God"? What evidence do you have that God
existed? I'd really like some proof positive so I too could believe it.