Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Tue, 21 Nov 2006 07:32:33 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote:

On 11/21/2006 7:21 AM, JohnH wrote:
On Tue, 21 Nov 2006 11:25:01 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

On Tue, 21 Nov 2006 02:11:47 GMT, "Calif Bill"
wrote:

US Navy, so must include boats.
Weapons control we can live with.
http://www.whc.net/rjones/USN/USN_team.html
Pfffhhhtt.....

Marine Corps Silent Drill Team is better.

Squids....

The Army's Old Guard puts them all to shame.

I don't understand the purpose of these displays. Are they part of
recruitment programs?

It's a demonstration of martial skill with a weapon. It takes a lot
of discipline, control, timing to handle weapons like that. It's like
a karate kata display only with heavy wooden rifles instead of
nun-chuka, swords, knifes, those tuning fork thingies, smashing blocks
with you're forehead - you know. :)

That's not REAL world karate. Just a display of karate, much like the
dancing with fake guns is just a display.

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
. ..


Yes, well, since most employers don't give a tinker's dam about their
workers, and since OSHA under Bush has about given up on worker safety,
it's good that some organization is looking out for workers.

LOL. For a smart guy, you sure say some dumb things sometimes.

Eisboch

Eisboch wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
. ..


Yes, well, since most employers don't give a tinker's dam about their
workers, and since OSHA under Bush has about given up on worker safety,
it's good that some organization is looking out for workers.

LOL. For a smart guy, you sure say some dumb things sometimes.

Eisboch



Eisboch,
I used to believe Harry just said this stuff for shock value. Today, I
think Harry actually believes what he writes. If Harry was a smart guy
at one time, he is now suffering from old man brain syndrome.

JoeSpareBedroom wrote:


Maybe the skill is handy for big funerals. Analogy: Hidden among the
population like terrorist cells are legions of bagpipe players. They come
out of the woodwork for police funerals in some cities. I have no idea why.
My best theory is that having to listen to bagpipe music should make other
cops do a better job of looking out for their partners.

Shame on ya, McBedroom.

I've been taking bagpipe lessons for a couple of years, and I'm just
now about to graduate from the practice chanter to something with an
actual bag. I can extract house-rockin' music from anything with a
keyboard, blow a wicked blues harp, and while I sold my last guitar
about 30 years ago I could get my chops back with a few months of
practice. Learning the pipes is like learning a foreign language after
speaking English for 50 years.
The western scale? Forget it. Staff notation? Yeah, but don't pay
strict attention to the note values because one of the things a piper
has to know is what the notation actually means, inspite of how it
reads. It usually takes me 3-6 months to get adequately proficient on a
musical instrument. The pipes will humble ya, that's for sure.

A lot of people who dislike bagpipe music have never heard it played
well. That's pretty understandable, as even with only a 9-note scale
this is certainly the most difficult, tempermental, frustrating, and
rewarding instrument I have ever attempted- and I'm only just about to
begin dealing with the mechanics of the bag and drones.

No wonder it's popular in Scotland, that's where they invented that
other nearly impossible and demanding pastime that only a few can do
well, golf.

The police and fire departments are paramilitary organizations, and the
bagpipe has a long history of association with military manuevers.
Often said to be the loudest of all instruments, the pipes were often
used to signal tactical changes on the battlefield. The pipes would be
used to play a lament when the dead were buried following a battle.

Did the ancient armies actually like bagpipe music? Hard to say. All I
know is that when you see drawings of some of the units marching into
battle they often have the piper on point. :-)

Did you like Ravi Shankar back in the 60's? If so, you would learn to
like bagpipes pretty quickly. If not, you will probably be among that
group who just "don't get it". (Members of that group are often
described as "sane")...

Here's a look at the audio torture device enroute to me via UPS Ground.
A "shuttle pipe" is not quite as loud as a Great Highland, but sounds
about the same. Biggest difference is that you can practice the shuttle
pipes indoors or play in a small room without being inappropriately
loud. http://www.hendersongroupltd.com/buy/3df.html

"Chuck Gould" wrote in message
ups.com...

JoeSpareBedroom wrote:


Maybe the skill is handy for big funerals. Analogy: Hidden among the
population like terrorist cells are legions of bagpipe players. They come
out of the woodwork for police funerals in some cities. I have no idea
why.
My best theory is that having to listen to bagpipe music should make
other
cops do a better job of looking out for their partners.

Shame on ya, McBedroom.

I've been taking bagpipe lessons for a couple of years, and I'm just
now about to graduate from the practice chanter to something with an
actual bag. I can extract house-rockin' music from anything with a
keyboard, blow a wicked blues harp, and while I sold my last guitar
about 30 years ago I could get my chops back with a few months of
practice. Learning the pipes is like learning a foreign language after
speaking English for 50 years.
The western scale? Forget it. Staff notation? Yeah, but don't pay
strict attention to the note values because one of the things a piper
has to know is what the notation actually means, inspite of how it
reads. It usually takes me 3-6 months to get adequately proficient on a
musical instrument. The pipes will humble ya, that's for sure.

A lot of people who dislike bagpipe music have never heard it played
well. That's pretty understandable, as even with only a 9-note scale
this is certainly the most difficult, tempermental, frustrating, and
rewarding instrument I have ever attempted- and I'm only just about to
begin dealing with the mechanics of the bag and drones.

No wonder it's popular in Scotland, that's where they invented that
other nearly impossible and demanding pastime that only a few can do
well, golf.

The police and fire departments are paramilitary organizations, and the
bagpipe has a long history of association with military manuevers.
Often said to be the loudest of all instruments, the pipes were often
used to signal tactical changes on the battlefield. The pipes would be
used to play a lament when the dead were buried following a battle.

Did the ancient armies actually like bagpipe music? Hard to say. All I
know is that when you see drawings of some of the units marching into
battle they often have the piper on point. :-)

Did you like Ravi Shankar back in the 60's? If so, you would learn to
like bagpipes pretty quickly. If not, you will probably be among that
group who just "don't get it". (Members of that group are often
described as "sane")...

Here's a look at the audio torture device enroute to me via UPS Ground.
A "shuttle pipe" is not quite as loud as a Great Highland, but sounds
about the same. Biggest difference is that you can practice the shuttle
pipes indoors or play in a small room without being inappropriately
loud. http://www.hendersongroupltd.com/buy/3df.html


Chuck, there is no similarity between Indian and bagpipe music. Don't be
silly. :-)

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
On 11/21/2006 11:08 AM, Eisboch wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
. ..


Yes, well, since most employers don't give a tinker's dam about their
workers, and since OSHA under Bush has about given up on worker safety,
it's good that some organization is looking out for workers.

LOL. For a smart guy, you sure say some dumb things sometimes.

Eisboch


You haven't been following the demise of worker safety. I have.


Perhaps you can cite some facts........pick any industry.

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
On 11/21/2006 11:08 AM, Eisboch wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
. ..


Yes, well, since most employers don't give a tinker's dam about their
workers, and since OSHA under Bush has about given up on worker safety,
it's good that some organization is looking out for workers.

LOL. For a smart guy, you sure say some dumb things sometimes.

Eisboch


You haven't been following the demise of worker safety. I have.

I am referring to your claim that "most employers don't give a tinker's
dam(n) about their workers."

That's a very broad statement, there Mr.

Eisboch

Chuck Gould wrote:
Did the ancient armies actually like bagpipe music? Hard to say. All I
know is that when you see drawings of some of the units marching into
battle they often have the piper on point. :-)


That wasn't by chance.


Here's a look at the audio torture device enroute to me via UPS Ground.
A "shuttle pipe" is not quite as loud as a Great Highland, but sounds
about the same. Biggest difference is that you can practice the shuttle
pipes indoors or play in a small room without being inappropriately
loud.

What's "inappropriately loud" mean?

I happen to like bagpipe music, but it may be a genetically
acquired taste. A friend of mine has said that the best
thing about bagpipe music is that it serves as a warning:
"Men in kilts approaching."

DSK

"DSK" wrote in message
...
Chuck Gould wrote:
Did the ancient armies actually like bagpipe music? Hard to say. All I
know is that when you see drawings of some of the units marching into
battle they often have the piper on point. :-)


That wasn't by chance.


Here's a look at the audio torture device enroute to me via UPS Ground.
A "shuttle pipe" is not quite as loud as a Great Highland, but sounds
about the same. Biggest difference is that you can practice the shuttle
pipes indoors or play in a small room without being inappropriately
loud.

What's "inappropriately loud" mean?

Example: One band I'm playing with. We practice in a 12x15 room. One
guitarist has a 4x12 Marshall cabinet and an amp head that could be used to
play a rather large room. He doesn't know how to turn it down. When he's
really out of hand, I can feel the legs of my jeans actually moving. I'm
giving him two more speeches about how this will not fly in small clubs. The
band will never be hired a second time. If he doesn't get it, I'm gone.

I use a custom made set of Etymotic ear plugs. It's not enough protection
around this guy. Bagpipes can be equally scary. Almost.

Chuck Gould wrote:
JoeSpareBedroom wrote:


Maybe the skill is handy for big funerals. Analogy: Hidden among the
population like terrorist cells are legions of bagpipe players. They come
out of the woodwork for police funerals in some cities. I have no idea why.
My best theory is that having to listen to bagpipe music should make other
cops do a better job of looking out for their partners.

Shame on ya, McBedroom.

I've been taking bagpipe lessons for a couple of years, and I'm just
now about to graduate from the practice chanter to something with an
actual bag. I can extract house-rockin' music from anything with a
keyboard, blow a wicked blues harp, and while I sold my last guitar
about 30 years ago I could get my chops back with a few months of
practice. Learning the pipes is like learning a foreign language after
speaking English for 50 years.
The western scale? Forget it. Staff notation? Yeah, but don't pay
strict attention to the note values because one of the things a piper
has to know is what the notation actually means, inspite of how it
reads. It usually takes me 3-6 months to get adequately proficient on a
musical instrument. The pipes will humble ya, that's for sure.


While I understand that the pipes are a very hard instrument to learn
and be GOOD at, your remark about notation applies to any and every
instrument, not just pipes. That's what makes music uniquely yours,
whether or not you simply know enough to copy verbatim someone else's
playing, or make it yours.