On Wed, 22 Nov 2006 11:01:38 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

On Tue, 21 Nov 2006 22:21:23 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote:

On 11/21/2006 9:21 PM, Bert Robbins wrote:
Harry Krause wrote:
On 11/21/2006 9:57 AM, Vic Smith wrote:
On Tue, 21 Nov 2006 07:32:33 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote:

On 11/21/2006 7:21 AM, JohnH wrote:
On Tue, 21 Nov 2006 11:25:01 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

On Tue, 21 Nov 2006 02:11:47 GMT, "Calif Bill"
wrote:

US Navy, so must include boats.
Weapons control we can live with.
http://www.whc.net/rjones/USN/USN_team.html
Pfffhhhtt.....

Marine Corps Silent Drill Team is better.

Squids....
The Army's Old Guard puts them all to shame.

I don't understand the purpose of these displays. Are they part of
recruitment programs?
Maybe the audience was parents of graduating recruits. The only time
I saw drill exhibitions was at graduation. Close order marching with
the requisite rifle movement was the order of the day when I was in,
but I do recall one guy in our company who had all the rifle spinning
down pat. I don't remember that he drilled with a separate unit, and
think he picked it up in HS ROTC. And I don't recall seeing rifle
exhibitions when I was in boot camp. Somewhere there's an Admiral
or Captain who likes this stuff, and it's his pet project.

--Vic



Pomp and circumstance, I guess.

Hey, I can understand military rifle and handgun competitions, and
survival competitions, and just about anything promoting and building
the skills needed to survive battle or posting to hostile territory. The
more training and skill promotion for that, the better.

Discipline in one area carries over to other areas.


Yes, I am sure the ability to twirl one's rifle helps one avoid IEDs.

Just drop it Harry.

....and Doug wondered why I didn't try to 'teach' Harry.

Harry Krause wrote:
On 11/21/2006 9:21 PM, Bert Robbins wrote:
Harry Krause wrote:
On 11/21/2006 9:57 AM, Vic Smith wrote:
On Tue, 21 Nov 2006 07:32:33 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote:

On 11/21/2006 7:21 AM, JohnH wrote:
On Tue, 21 Nov 2006 11:25:01 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

On Tue, 21 Nov 2006 02:11:47 GMT, "Calif Bill"
wrote:

US Navy, so must include boats.
Weapons control we can live with.
http://www.whc.net/rjones/USN/USN_team.html
Pfffhhhtt.....

Marine Corps Silent Drill Team is better.

Squids....
The Army's Old Guard puts them all to shame.

I don't understand the purpose of these displays. Are they part of
recruitment programs?
Maybe the audience was parents of graduating recruits. The only time
I saw drill exhibitions was at graduation. Close order marching with
the requisite rifle movement was the order of the day when I was in,
but I do recall one guy in our company who had all the rifle spinning
down pat. I don't remember that he drilled with a separate unit, and
think he picked it up in HS ROTC. And I don't recall seeing rifle
exhibitions when I was in boot camp. Somewhere there's an Admiral
or Captain who likes this stuff, and it's his pet project.

--Vic



Pomp and circumstance, I guess.

Hey, I can understand military rifle and handgun competitions, and
survival competitions, and just about anything promoting and building
the skills needed to survive battle or posting to hostile territory.
The more training and skill promotion for that, the better.

Discipline in one area carries over to other areas.


Yes, I am sure the ability to twirl one's rifle helps one avoid IEDs.

Focusing on the task at hand with attention to detail.

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Wed, 22 Nov 2006 07:26:15 -0500, Bert Robbins
wrote:

Harry Krause wrote:

~~ snip ~~

Yes, I am sure the ability to twirl one's rifle helps one avoid IEDs.
Focusing on the task at hand with attention to detail.

I find it curious that some bright person hasn't come up with a
directional EMP pulse gun of some sort to blow these things up before
the convoy's get there.

I don't know about all of the electro-technical stuff about timers,
detonators and such but, it sure would be nice if JPL or Goddard would
focus their brain trusts on the Earth surface needs.

JohnH wrote:
On Tue, 21 Nov 2006 21:13:41 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"JohnH" wrote in message
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On Tue, 21 Nov 2006 20:38:01 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"Eisboch" wrote in message
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Then I assume you can respect the pursuit of those qualities in a
classical orchestra and/or Aerosmith?

Eisboch



Of course. I never said otherwise.


Good.

Eisboch


I am, however, waiting for a certain "reaction" here, from someone else.
We'll see.


I have no desire to attempt the 'teaching' of Harry about something he'd
never understand.

Your attitude suggests that you would be unable to teach this thing.
Otherwise, you'd try.


Exercises in futility, except on the golf course, are not my bag.

One of my passions in life is an exercise in futility. I love to fish!

Bert Robbins wrote:
Harry Krause wrote:
On 11/21/2006 9:57 AM, Vic Smith wrote:
On Tue, 21 Nov 2006 07:32:33 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote:

On 11/21/2006 7:21 AM, JohnH wrote:
On Tue, 21 Nov 2006 11:25:01 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

On Tue, 21 Nov 2006 02:11:47 GMT, "Calif Bill"
wrote:

US Navy, so must include boats.
Weapons control we can live with.
http://www.whc.net/rjones/USN/USN_team.html
Pfffhhhtt.....

Marine Corps Silent Drill Team is better.

Squids....
The Army's Old Guard puts them all to shame.


I don't understand the purpose of these displays. Are they part of
recruitment programs?

Maybe the audience was parents of graduating recruits. The only time
I saw drill exhibitions was at graduation. Close order marching with
the requisite rifle movement was the order of the day when I was in,
but I do recall one guy in our company who had all the rifle spinning
down pat. I don't remember that he drilled with a separate unit, and
think he picked it up in HS ROTC. And I don't recall seeing rifle
exhibitions when I was in boot camp. Somewhere there's an Admiral
or Captain who likes this stuff, and it's his pet project.

--Vic




Pomp and circumstance, I guess.

Hey, I can understand military rifle and handgun competitions, and
survival competitions, and just about anything promoting and building
the skills needed to survive battle or posting to hostile territory. The
more training and skill promotion for that, the better.

Discipline in one area carries over to other areas.

Yeah, the brass works on the assumption that each and every recruit is
an idiot. They teach you the "correct" way to do such terribly
difficult tasks as cleaning and cutting your fingernails, how to
shower, etc.

Harry Krause wrote:
On 11/21/2006 9:21 PM, Bert Robbins wrote:

Harry Krause wrote:

On 11/21/2006 9:57 AM, Vic Smith wrote:

On Tue, 21 Nov 2006 07:32:33 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote:

On 11/21/2006 7:21 AM, JohnH wrote:

On Tue, 21 Nov 2006 11:25:01 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

On Tue, 21 Nov 2006 02:11:47 GMT, "Calif Bill"
wrote:

US Navy, so must include boats.
Weapons control we can live with.
http://www.whc.net/rjones/USN/USN_team.html

Pfffhhhtt.....

Marine Corps Silent Drill Team is better.

Squids....

The Army's Old Guard puts them all to shame.


I don't understand the purpose of these displays. Are they part of
recruitment programs?

Maybe the audience was parents of graduating recruits. The only time
I saw drill exhibitions was at graduation. Close order marching with
the requisite rifle movement was the order of the day when I was in,
but I do recall one guy in our company who had all the rifle spinning
down pat. I don't remember that he drilled with a separate unit, and
think he picked it up in HS ROTC. And I don't recall seeing rifle
exhibitions when I was in boot camp. Somewhere there's an Admiral
or Captain who likes this stuff, and it's his pet project.

--Vic




Pomp and circumstance, I guess.

Hey, I can understand military rifle and handgun competitions, and
survival competitions, and just about anything promoting and building
the skills needed to survive battle or posting to hostile territory.
The more training and skill promotion for that, the better.


Discipline in one area carries over to other areas.



Yes, I am sure the ability to twirl one's rifle helps one avoid IEDs.


I like precision marching with a band..preferably a pipe band ...but the
twirling of rifles seems silly...something like highschool cheerleaders.

Don White wrote:
Harry Krause wrote:
On 11/21/2006 9:21 PM, Bert Robbins wrote:

Harry Krause wrote:

On 11/21/2006 9:57 AM, Vic Smith wrote:

On Tue, 21 Nov 2006 07:32:33 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote:

On 11/21/2006 7:21 AM, JohnH wrote:

On Tue, 21 Nov 2006 11:25:01 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

On Tue, 21 Nov 2006 02:11:47 GMT, "Calif Bill"
wrote:

US Navy, so must include boats.
Weapons control we can live with.
http://www.whc.net/rjones/USN/USN_team.html

Pfffhhhtt.....

Marine Corps Silent Drill Team is better.

Squids....

The Army's Old Guard puts them all to shame.


I don't understand the purpose of these displays. Are they part of
recruitment programs?

Maybe the audience was parents of graduating recruits. The only time
I saw drill exhibitions was at graduation. Close order marching with
the requisite rifle movement was the order of the day when I was in,
but I do recall one guy in our company who had all the rifle spinning
down pat. I don't remember that he drilled with a separate unit, and
think he picked it up in HS ROTC. And I don't recall seeing rifle
exhibitions when I was in boot camp. Somewhere there's an Admiral
or Captain who likes this stuff, and it's his pet project.

--Vic




Pomp and circumstance, I guess.

Hey, I can understand military rifle and handgun competitions, and
survival competitions, and just about anything promoting and building
the skills needed to survive battle or posting to hostile territory.
The more training and skill promotion for that, the better.


Discipline in one area carries over to other areas.



Yes, I am sure the ability to twirl one's rifle helps one avoid IEDs.


I like precision marching with a band..preferably a pipe band ...but the
twirling of rifles seems silly...something like highschool cheerleaders.

Absolutely! I was in the marching band, and orchestra all through high
school. Had a great time!

Harry Krause wrote:

Military "displays" bore me, but I do like marching and even stationary
bands. My favorite group of guys in uniform was always "The Village
People." What a wonderful parody of so many things held sacred.


'Village People'?
We could probably put our own similar group together here...what with a
few wanna be cops/sheriffs... lots of military men.. a few westeners
who could stand in for cowboys etc.
Now if only they had some talent............

On Wed, 22 Nov 2006 12:37:25 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

On Wed, 22 Nov 2006 07:26:15 -0500, Bert Robbins
wrote:

Harry Krause wrote:

~~ snip ~~

Yes, I am sure the ability to twirl one's rifle helps one avoid IEDs.

Focusing on the task at hand with attention to detail.

I find it curious that some bright person hasn't come up with a
directional EMP pulse gun of some sort to blow these things up before
the convoy's get there.

Then all the cell phones in the neighborhood would ring at the same time.
The Viet Cong had some nasty ways to configure mines and booby traps, but
luckily they didn't have the cell phone detonator. Thank God for small
favors.