Harry Krause wrote:
On 11/7/2006 6:15 PM, Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
Harry Krause wrote:
On 11/7/2006 5:45 PM, Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
Harry Krause wrote:
On 11/7/2006 3:16 PM, Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
Harry Krause wrote:
We have those damned electronic voting machines in Maryland, the
ones that do not provide any printed record of your vote.

I asked the polling "referee" why I should trust these machines
to produce an honest count, and she said, "Well, I feel secure
about them."

To which I responded, "What are your credentials? Who are you?
Why should I trust you?" She really had no answers that were
satisfactory.
Why would you become confrontational with someone who has no
decision making authority? She is a very nice volunteer, who was
laughing at you as soon as you walked away. Even if she agrees
with your assessment, she was laughing at your behavior.

No, she wasn't, because at least five other people around me were
asking her the same questions.

Perhaps you take the voting process lightly. I don't.
She was laughing at your inability to make speak your displeasure
about the voting machines in an effective manner. You asking a poll
volunteer "What are your credentials? Who are you? Why should I
trust you?" makes as much sense as screaming at the moon, both of
them are just as effective in changing the voting process. Perhaps
if you did take the voting process seriously, and really wanted to
make a change, you would realize how completely ineffective your
confrontational behavior is and so something that would make a
difference. My guess is you enjoy the confrontation, and really
don't care if they change the machines.

You assume the woman was a "volunteer." She was not. She introduced
herself as a "supervisor" from the state board of elections, and was
wearing a state ID nameplate. We had some serious problems during the
primaries some weeks ago, and the board of elections caught hell.

Perhaps you ought to have a few facts on hand before you drool in
here, hey?

Perhaps you should understand that yelling and asking them "What are
your credentials? Who are you? Why should I trust you?" , at anyone
during the voting process has no effect on the system, no matter what
their position is. The fact that you do not realize this will make
you completely ineffective campaigning for anything you believe in.


Where did you get the idea I was yelling, d.f.? The woman was a
representative of the state; she damned well better know what she is doing.

My guess: you didn't vote in this election. You're a watcher, not a do-er.

I did vote, and I know asking a supervisor "What are your credentials?
Who are you? Why should I trust you?" while they are supervising an
election in process will do nothing. The fact that you continue to try
to justify your behavior shows how out of touch with how "do'er" get
things done. Hint- they way you did it isn't the way.

On Tue, 07 Nov 2006 18:21:26 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote:



My guess: you didn't vote in this election. You're a watcher, not a do-er.

I didn't vote today. Decided that if I post in this group I'll end up
in political discussions. So my opinions must be totally unbiased,
and not tainted by a voting record.
Besides, I didn't like any of the candidates.

--Vic

I voted green party for governor. I know the guy doesn't stand a
snowballs chance, but I'm comfortable I voted and how I voted, , and I
didn't vote for either dem. nor rep.


I feel good.


Vic Smith wrote:
On Tue, 07 Nov 2006 18:21:26 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote:



My guess: you didn't vote in this election. You're a watcher, not a do-er.

I didn't vote today. Decided that if I post in this group I'll end up
in political discussions. So my opinions must be totally unbiased,
and not tainted by a voting record.
Besides, I didn't like any of the candidates.

--Vic

"Vic Smith" wrote in message
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On Tue, 07 Nov 2006 18:21:26 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote:



My guess: you didn't vote in this election. You're a watcher, not a do-er.

I didn't vote today.

Shame on you.

On 7 Nov 2006 16:21:34 -0800, wrote:

I voted green party for governor. I know the guy doesn't stand a
snowballs chance, but I'm comfortable I voted and how I voted, , and I
didn't vote for either dem. nor rep.


I feel good.

Darn, I forgot about that. It's a good thing to get any third party
to the 5% threshold so they can get funding. The more voices,
the better, unless it gets babylonian.

--Vic

Vic Smith wrote:
The more voices, the better, unless it gets babylonian.

--Vic

And it probably will....

On Tue, 7 Nov 2006 19:23:22 -0500, " JimH" not telling you @
pffftt.com wrote:


"Vic Smith" wrote in message
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On Tue, 07 Nov 2006 18:21:26 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote:



My guess: you didn't vote in this election. You're a watcher, not a do-er.

I didn't vote today.

Shame on you.

I'm a watcher this cycle. I'll just have to live with that, head hung
low. But I do vow to continue paying my taxes.

--Vic

" JimH" not telling you @ pffftt.com wrote in message
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"Harry Krause" wrote in message

The FBI is in Virginia, investigating Republican intimidation of voters.



In all my voting life I have never been nor have I ever seen a voter or
voters being intimidated.

This whole voting process now sickens me thanks to your party.


According to that well know conservative, Keith Olbermann of MSNBC, a few
people reported getting anonymous phone calls telling the recipient that
their voting location had changed and gave them a location in which the
voter could not vote.

There is no evidence yet that this is being done by any political
organization nor does it sound like intimidation to me. But anyway, that's
why the FBI was called in by the head of the Virginia election overseers.

Eisboch

"Vic Smith" wrote in message
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On Tue, 07 Nov 2006 18:21:26 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote:



My guess: you didn't vote in this election. You're a watcher, not a do-er.

I didn't vote today. Decided that if I post in this group I'll end up
in political discussions. So my opinions must be totally unbiased,
and not tainted by a voting record.
Besides, I didn't like any of the candidates.

--Vic

watsamatta with Daffy Duck?

Eisboch

"Reginald P. Smithers III" wrote in message
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.NOYB wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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On 11/7/2006 3:16 PM, Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
Harry Krause wrote:
We have those damned electronic voting machines in Maryland, the ones
that do not provide any printed record of your vote.

I asked the polling "referee" why I should trust these machines to
produce an honest count, and she said, "Well, I feel secure about
them."

To which I responded, "What are your credentials? Who are you? Why
should I trust you?" She really had no answers that were satisfactory.
Why would you become confrontational with someone who has no decision
making authority? She is a very nice volunteer, who was laughing at
you as soon as you walked away. Even if she agrees with your
assessment, she was laughing at your behavior.


No, she wasn't, because at least five other people around me were asking
her the same questions.

Then she laughed at all of you.
NYOB
This reminds me of the old feeble minded people yelling at the clerk at
the airline ticket desk when the flight is canceled due to bad weather.

Or at the waitress because the kitchen is backed up. And then she spits in
their food.

I wonder if the poll worker unplugged Harry's machine before it could post.