Things could be worse, they could be legal and violent aliens, like the
ones in Paris.

The illegals we have just want to get some bucks and go home rich.
Most of the 10,000,000 just want that anyway.


--
For choosing to fight, one gets the horrors or war, stress, and possibly
death.
For choosing not to fight, one gets subjugation, humiliation, and
possibly death.
Choose your fights carefully.

"Clark Magnuson" wrote in message
...
Things could be worse, they could be legal and violent aliens, like the
ones in Paris.

The illegals we have just want to get some bucks and go home rich.
Most of the 10,000,000 just want that anyway.

I could be mistaken, but that's what I want, too, and although my friends
know I'm an alien of sorts, I am legal.

On Tue, 24 Oct 2006 07:57:50 -0700, Clark Magnuson
wrote:

Things could be worse, they could be legal and violent aliens, like the
ones in Paris.

The illegals we have just want to get some bucks and go home rich.
Most of the 10,000,000 just want that anyway.

Its actually closer to 30,000,000 and they now make up between 20 and
25% of our prison and jail populations.

Seems they do want to just get some bucks..and kill some people, and
rape some folks, and....

Gunner



"A prudent man foresees the difficulties ahead and prepares for them;
the simpleton goes blindly on and suffers the consequences."
- Proverbs 22:3

"Gunner" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 24 Oct 2006 07:57:50 -0700, Clark Magnuson
wrote:

Things could be worse, they could be legal and violent aliens, like the
ones in Paris.

The illegals we have just want to get some bucks and go home rich.
Most of the 10,000,000 just want that anyway.

Its actually closer to 30,000,000 and they now make up between 20 and
25% of our prison and jail populations.

Seems they do want to just get some bucks..and kill some people, and
rape some folks, and....

Gunner

So, they're just like everyone else.

On Tue, 24 Oct 2006 15:46:52 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"Gunner" wrote in message
.. .
On Tue, 24 Oct 2006 07:57:50 -0700, Clark Magnuson
wrote:

Things could be worse, they could be legal and violent aliens, like the
ones in Paris.

The illegals we have just want to get some bucks and go home rich.
Most of the 10,000,000 just want that anyway.

Its actually closer to 30,000,000 and they now make up between 20 and
25% of our prison and jail populations.

Seems they do want to just get some bucks..and kill some people, and
rape some folks, and....

Gunner

So, they're just like everyone else.


Speak for yourself! :)

On Tue, 24 Oct 2006 15:46:52 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"Gunner" wrote in message
.. .
On Tue, 24 Oct 2006 07:57:50 -0700, Clark Magnuson
wrote:

Things could be worse, they could be legal and violent aliens, like the
ones in Paris.

The illegals we have just want to get some bucks and go home rich.
Most of the 10,000,000 just want that anyway.

Its actually closer to 30,000,000 and they now make up between 20 and
25% of our prison and jail populations.

Seems they do want to just get some bucks..and kill some people, and
rape some folks, and....

Gunner

So, they're just like everyone else.

Are those your desires? Not mine.

Gunner

Rule #35
"That which does not kill you,
has made a huge tactical error"

"Gunner" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 24 Oct 2006 15:46:52 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"Gunner" wrote in message
. ..
On Tue, 24 Oct 2006 07:57:50 -0700, Clark Magnuson
wrote:

Things could be worse, they could be legal and violent aliens, like the
ones in Paris.

The illegals we have just want to get some bucks and go home rich.
Most of the 10,000,000 just want that anyway.

Its actually closer to 30,000,000 and they now make up between 20 and
25% of our prison and jail populations.

Seems they do want to just get some bucks..and kill some people, and
rape some folks, and....

Gunner

So, they're just like everyone else.

Are those your desires? Not mine.

Gunner

Clarification: A given percentage of any population will share certain
characteristics. Certain dolts want to believe that illegal immigrants are
made up of a higher percentage of *****VIOLENT CRIMINALS*****. These dolts
have no information to back this up. But, in this way, this sample
population is the same as any other.

On Tue, 24 Oct 2006 23:43:04 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

Most of the 10,000,000 just want that anyway.

Its actually closer to 30,000,000 and they now make up between 20 and
25% of our prison and jail populations.

Seems they do want to just get some bucks..and kill some people, and
rape some folks, and....

Gunner

So, they're just like everyone else.

Are those your desires? Not mine.

Gunner

Clarification: A given percentage of any population will share certain
characteristics. Certain dolts want to believe that illegal immigrants are
made up of a higher percentage of *****VIOLENT CRIMINALS*****. These dolts
have no information to back this up. But, in this way, this sample
population is the same as any other.

On the other hand..certain other dolts think that those criminals who
have violated our laws by simply being here..and who use the border as
a get out of jail free card..are equally as violent as the US
population. Which is not true.

Tell you what..how about providing cites to your claim that illegals
are as violent as citizens. Say..per hundred thousand?

Ill be waiting for your cites. With my own, both from the DOJ, the FBI
and the Border Patrol , not to mention LA and San Diego Counties.

Whenever you are ready..prove your claim.

Gunner

Rule #35
"That which does not kill you,
has made a huge tactical error"

"Gunner" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 24 Oct 2006 23:43:04 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

Most of the 10,000,000 just want that anyway.

Its actually closer to 30,000,000 and they now make up between 20 and
25% of our prison and jail populations.

Seems they do want to just get some bucks..and kill some people, and
rape some folks, and....

Gunner

So, they're just like everyone else.

Are those your desires? Not mine.

Gunner

Clarification: A given percentage of any population will share certain
characteristics. Certain dolts want to believe that illegal immigrants are
made up of a higher percentage of *****VIOLENT CRIMINALS*****. These dolts
have no information to back this up. But, in this way, this sample
population is the same as any other.

On the other hand..certain other dolts think that those criminals who
have violated our laws by simply being here..and who use the border as
a get out of jail free card..are equally as violent as the US
population. Which is not true.

Tell you what..how about providing cites to your claim that illegals
are as violent as citizens. Say..per hundred thousand?

Ill be waiting for your cites. With my own, both from the DOJ, the FBI
and the Border Patrol , not to mention LA and San Diego Counties.

Whenever you are ready..prove your claim.


Your sources won't address the characteristic I'm referring to, which can be
observed in early childhood. It's biological and not related to good/bad
parenting, nor is it related to nationality. Some kids are edgy, and require
just a little more attention. For some reason, they don't "socialize" in
quite the same way as others. It's theorized that without special attention,
they ***MAY*** be predisposed to violence later in life. Here (NY), some of
them end up at BOCES for a while. In other states or countries, I have no
idea what happens to them.

If you'd like to know more about this, pick up your telephone, call your
local elementary school, and ask to speak to one of the special ed teachers.

"Gunner" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 24 Oct 2006 23:43:04 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

Most of the 10,000,000 just want that anyway.

Its actually closer to 30,000,000 and they now make up between 20 and
25% of our prison and jail populations.

Seems they do want to just get some bucks..and kill some people, and
rape some folks, and....

Gunner

So, they're just like everyone else.

Are those your desires? Not mine.

Gunner

Clarification: A given percentage of any population will share certain
characteristics. Certain dolts want to believe that illegal immigrants are
made up of a higher percentage of *****VIOLENT CRIMINALS*****. These dolts
have no information to back this up. But, in this way, this sample
population is the same as any other.

On the other hand..certain other dolts think that those criminals who
have violated our laws by simply being here..and who use the border as
a get out of jail free card..are equally as violent as the US
population. Which is not true.

Tell you what..how about providing cites to your claim that illegals
are as violent as citizens. Say..per hundred thousand?

Ill be waiting for your cites. With my own, both from the DOJ, the FBI
and the Border Patrol , not to mention LA and San Diego Counties.

Whenever you are ready..prove your claim.

Gunner

Rule #35
"That which does not kill you,
has made a huge tactical error"

Actually, I did look it up, Gunner.

According to the DOJ's 2003 stats, there were 2084097 people in federal,
state, and local detention
The GAO says 304168 were illegals

That's 14.6% considerably less than your 20-25%.

As far as arrests;
The GAO lists 21% of illegal alien offences were immigration related.

Violent crimes (assault, robbery, sex offence, homicide and kidnapping)
accounted for 11.5% of their offences. Roughly the same as the FBI's overall
national rate for the same period.
(note the GAO's numbers include prostitution with sex offenses and do not
separate out the different classes of assault like the FBI stats do)

In fact, if your 30,000,000 illegal population figure are correct, That
works out to 290 violent crimes per 100000. Considerably less than the 476
national average.

http://www.fbi.gov/ucr/03cius.htm
http://www.gao.gov/new.items/d05646r.pdf
http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/welcome.html

Paul K. Dickman