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[email protected] October 14th 06 03:14 AM

LOL! another Ebay "response" scam!
 
So I lsot a boat auction, and never fails, here comes the
scam/spoofers.

I just got a "Response from Ebay Member" letter, asking me for more
photos of my auction. funny, I've never auctioned off anything. and
over in the right hand column i get this:

"Isthis message an offer to buy your item directly through email
withoutwinning the item on eBay? If so, please he! lp make the eBay
marketplacesafer by reporting it to us. These "outside of eBay"
transactions maybe unsafe and are against eBay policy...."


They type worse than I do!

So I sent it to . and Ebay or Safeharbor will send me
their usual "we're on it!" type of letter.

amazing market place.


mgg October 14th 06 04:12 AM

LOL! another Ebay "response" scam!
 
I get at least 3 of those per day. I also get the one from "paypal" saying
that another email has beed added to the account...please verify. You may
know this, but many don't... When you get anything suspicious, hover your
mouse over the link they want you to click, and look in the bottom left
corner (outlook express). If the url shows anything but the outfit they
claim to represent, it's a scam.

--Mike

wrote in message
oups.com...
So I lsot a boat auction, and never fails, here comes the
scam/spoofers.

I just got a "Response from Ebay Member" letter, asking me for more
photos of my auction. funny, I've never auctioned off anything. and
over in the right hand column i get this:

"Isthis message an offer to buy your item directly through email
withoutwinning the item on eBay? If so, please he! lp make the eBay
marketplacesafer by reporting it to us. These "outside of eBay"
transactions maybe unsafe and are against eBay policy...."


They type worse than I do!

So I sent it to . and Ebay or Safeharbor will send me
their usual "we're on it!" type of letter.

amazing market place.




[email protected] October 14th 06 04:22 AM

LOL! another Ebay "response" scam!
 
I get the PayPal "update your records" emails too.

Maybe I ought to open a PayPal acct. so i can see what I need to
update.

LOL!


mgg wrote:
I get at least 3 of those per day. I also get the one from "paypal" saying
that another email has beed added to the account...please verify. You may
know this, but many don't... When you get anything suspicious, hover your
mouse over the link they want you to click, and look in the bottom left
corner (outlook express). If the url shows anything but the outfit they
claim to represent, it's a scam.

--Mike

wrote in message
oups.com...
So I lsot a boat auction, and never fails, here comes the
scam/spoofers.

I just got a "Response from Ebay Member" letter, asking me for more
photos of my auction. funny, I've never auctioned off anything. and
over in the right hand column i get this:

"Isthis message an offer to buy your item directly through email
withoutwinning the item on eBay? If so, please he! lp make the eBay
marketplacesafer by reporting it to us. These "outside of eBay"
transactions maybe unsafe and are against eBay policy...."


They type worse than I do!

So I sent it to . and Ebay or Safeharbor will send me
their usual "we're on it!" type of letter.

amazing market place.



Clams Canino October 14th 06 04:28 AM

LOL! another Ebay "response" scam!
 

wrote in message
oups.com...

So I lsot a boat auction, and never fails, here comes the
scam/spoofers.


What exactly did you do to a boat auction?

I could get "list", sold", or "lost" out of that.. :))

-W




[email protected] October 14th 06 04:58 AM

LOL! another Ebay "response" scam!
 
"So I lsot " Sorry, I "lost"

I got outbid.

WOW, I just now recieved another spoof'r.

Someone named "carlos" is wanting to know what my BIN price is and will
I accept paypal.


Huh. I don't have a paypal acct. and I don't have anything for sale.

interesting

Clams Canino wrote:
wrote in message
oups.com...

So I lsot a boat auction, and never fails, here comes the
scam/spoofers.


What exactly did you do to a boat auction?

I could get "list", sold", or "lost" out of that.. :))

-W



Clams Canino October 14th 06 05:07 AM

LOL! another Ebay "response" scam!
 
How are they seeing your email addy? Is it your ebay screen name??
Bidders email addys are NOT visible to the public.

-W

wrote in message
oups.com...
"So I lsot " Sorry, I "lost"

I got outbid.

WOW, I just now recieved another spoof'r.

Someone named "carlos" is wanting to know what my BIN price is and will
I accept paypal.


Huh. I don't have a paypal acct. and I don't have anything for sale.

interesting

Clams Canino wrote:
wrote in message
oups.com...

So I lsot a boat auction, and never fails, here comes the
scam/spoofers.


What exactly did you do to a boat auction?

I could get "list", sold", or "lost" out of that.. :))

-W





DSK October 14th 06 12:47 PM

LOL! another Ebay "response" scam!
 
wrote ....
So I lsot a boat auction, and never fails, here comes the
scam/spoofers.


This has happened to me a few times in the past, but the
last time I put in a bid on an Ebay item I got deluged. The
basic idea was an email on the Ebay format saying the even
though I "lost" the auction, the winner had failed to
complete the deal so now I had a chance to buy it at my price.

Unfortunately for them, it's easy to pull up the auction
page and send an email to the guy who was actually
auctioning a boat, and find out if it's true. Wasn't (of
course).


I just got a "Response from Ebay Member" letter, asking me for more
photos of my auction. funny, I've never auctioned off anything. and
over in the right hand column i get this:

"Isthis message an offer to buy your item directly through email
withoutwinning the item on eBay? If so, please he! lp make the eBay
marketplacesafer by reporting it to us. These "outside of eBay"
transactions maybe unsafe and are against eBay policy...."


They type worse than I do!


The ones I get are copied from the Ebay format, complete
with the same graphics & colors.


So I sent it to . and Ebay or Safeharbor will send me
their usual "we're on it!" type of letter.

amazing market place.


This kind of thing will ruin it. It's a PITA to get deluged
with phishing attempts because you try to buy something. The
heck with Iraq, Iran, North Korea, can we nuke whatever city
it is the stupid scam-baiters live in?


mgg wrote:
I get at least 3 of those per day. I also get the one from "paypal" saying
that another email has beed added to the account...please verify.


Yeah, the internet is a real jungle nowadays.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/4879468.stm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/6035455.stm


You may
know this, but many don't... When you get anything suspicious, hover your
mouse over the link they want you to click, and look in the bottom left
corner (outlook express). If the url shows anything but the outfit they
claim to represent, it's a scam.


Don't use Outlook Express (or Internet Explorer) it is a
revolving door for hackers. But your tip is a good idea to
ID any actual links before you go there.... other browsers &
readers can do the same thing.

Regards
Doug King


JohnH October 14th 06 01:06 PM

LOL! another Ebay "response" scam!
 
On Sat, 14 Oct 2006 10:26:32 GMT, Tom Francis wrote:

On Sat, 14 Oct 2006 04:07:26 GMT, "Clams Canino"
wrote:

How are they seeing your email addy? Is it your ebay screen name??
Bidders email addys are NOT visible to the public.


I stopped even visiting eBay anymore. There aren't any "auctions"
anymore unless it's complete junk from somebodies garage - it's all
"buy it now" and just another online store - overpriced to boot what
with all the "shipping and handling" charges, scams and everything
else that's been going on.

eBay is a joke.


'Craigslist' has worked well for me.

[email protected] October 14th 06 02:51 PM

LOL! another Ebay "response" scam!
 

Clams Canino wrote:
How are they seeing your email addy? Is it your ebay screen name??
Bidders email addys are NOT visible to the public.

-W



ebay is constantly being "hacked". seems like they can get your email
add's. but can only get sensetive info from you. Like, getting these
bogus letters, and clicking on the links provided in the letter. Some
will ask for your password, some will take you to an open page of
nothing. but has provided an anti security worm, to infiltrate
(variation of a trojan horse) to seek and gather the info.


Clams Canino October 14th 06 02:59 PM

LOL! another Ebay "response" scam!
 

wrote in message
ups.com...

Clams Canino wrote:
How are they seeing your email addy? Is it your ebay screen name??
Bidders email addys are NOT visible to the public.

-W



ebay is constantly being "hacked". seems like they can get your email
add's. but can only get sensetive info from you. Like, getting these
bogus letters, and clicking on the links provided in the letter. Some
will ask for your password, some will take you to an open page of
nothing. but has provided an anti security worm, to infiltrate
(variation of a trojan horse) to seek and gather the info.


I've got 2 Ebay accounts (buyer and seller). I've NEVER gotten emails to my
buyers account.
I only get them to my sellers account if my email addy was in the ad - or if
the phish came through the official ebay emails. I totally disagree that
Ebay is being hacked. There's a reason that your email is being laid bare to
the world. - really.

-W



JoeSpareBedroom October 14th 06 03:01 PM

LOL! another Ebay "response" scam!
 
wrote in message
ups.com...

Clams Canino wrote:
How are they seeing your email addy? Is it your ebay screen name??
Bidders email addys are NOT visible to the public.

-W



ebay is constantly being "hacked". seems like they can get your email
add's. but can only get sensetive info from you. Like, getting these
bogus letters, and clicking on the links provided in the letter. Some
will ask for your password, some will take you to an open page of
nothing. but has provided an anti security worm, to infiltrate
(variation of a trojan horse) to seek and gather the info.


To infiltrate and then what? Call home with what info it finds?



Clams Canino October 14th 06 03:12 PM

LOL! another Ebay "response" scam!
 

"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message news:356Yg.3062

To infiltrate and then what? Call home with what info it finds?


Most spyware is benign and just tracks marketing preferences so as to spam
you better. :)Dangerous spyware can indeed phone home vital info you type
in, so as to rob you.

I've never seen a single thing come to me via Ebay. It's usually those
"freeware" sites that come complete with "free spyware" added in. That's
why I specified a *safe* place for whatshisname to download DVDShrink3.2.

The best way to be safe is to download nothing, past that, be SURE of your
source for "freeware".
The best source for getting spyware added is the "free anti-spyware" sites.
etc....

-W



Eisboch October 14th 06 03:18 PM

LOL! another Ebay "response" scam!
 

"Clams Canino" wrote in message
ink.net...

"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
news:356Yg.3062

To infiltrate and then what? Call home with what info it finds?


Most spyware is benign and just tracks marketing preferences so as to spam
you better. :)Dangerous spyware can indeed phone home vital info you type
in, so as to rob you.

I've never seen a single thing come to me via Ebay. It's usually those
"freeware" sites that come complete with "free spyware" added in. That's
why I specified a *safe* place for whatshisname to download DVDShrink3.2.

The best way to be safe is to download nothing, past that, be SURE of your
source for "freeware".
The best source for getting spyware added is the "free anti-spyware"
sites.
etc....

-W



Question for you computer experts:

How safe is it to buy something on-line with a credit card using the
vendor's "secure" encrypted ordering page?

Eisboch



JoeSpareBedroom October 14th 06 03:32 PM

LOL! another Ebay "response" scam!
 
"Eisboch" wrote in message
...

"Clams Canino" wrote in message
ink.net...

"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
news:356Yg.3062

To infiltrate and then what? Call home with what info it finds?


Most spyware is benign and just tracks marketing preferences so as to
spam
you better. :)Dangerous spyware can indeed phone home vital info you type
in, so as to rob you.

I've never seen a single thing come to me via Ebay. It's usually those
"freeware" sites that come complete with "free spyware" added in. That's
why I specified a *safe* place for whatshisname to download DVDShrink3.2.

The best way to be safe is to download nothing, past that, be SURE of
your
source for "freeware".
The best source for getting spyware added is the "free anti-spyware"
sites.
etc....

-W



Question for you computer experts:

How safe is it to buy something on-line with a credit card using the
vendor's "secure" encrypted ordering page?

Eisboch


Been doing it for 6 years without a problem. But, go to www.visa.com and
sign up for the "Verified By Visa" thing. And do NOT use your debit card,
ever, for an online purchase.



James October 14th 06 03:37 PM

LOL! another Ebay "response" scam!
 
If you browser is showing the lock on that web site then that means that the
all the exchanges between you and the web site are encrypted. It is not a
completely foolproof encryption but nobody outside of places like nsa have
got the computer horsepower to break it. Plus they would have to intercept
your actual traffic to even begin and the comm companies have got the major
routing nodes and lines pretty well locked down.

You do have some vulnerability in that you are assuming that the other party
has taken the effort to secure their site and servers. This is not likely
to be a problem with big companies like amazon, ebay, walmart, etc. But mom
and pop operations that have decided to do their own servers may not be so
good. Usually you can tell if the store is doing their own thing or buying
web services form a big web server shop.

I once received an invitation to list our vacation rental propery on a new
site for free. I went to it and signed up to get an account. After I
snooped around a while I realized that they had left access to their
vacation site user id/password file open on their server. There along with
everyone else was my new id and password to get on their site. I downloaded
it and emailed them a copy suggesting they clean it up.

"Eisboch" wrote in message
...

"Clams Canino" wrote in message
ink.net...

"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
news:356Yg.3062

To infiltrate and then what? Call home with what info it finds?


Most spyware is benign and just tracks marketing preferences so as to
spam
you better. :)Dangerous spyware can indeed phone home vital info you type
in, so as to rob you.

I've never seen a single thing come to me via Ebay. It's usually those
"freeware" sites that come complete with "free spyware" added in. That's
why I specified a *safe* place for whatshisname to download DVDShrink3.2.

The best way to be safe is to download nothing, past that, be SURE of
your
source for "freeware".
The best source for getting spyware added is the "free anti-spyware"
sites.
etc....

-W



Question for you computer experts:

How safe is it to buy something on-line with a credit card using the
vendor's "secure" encrypted ordering page?

Eisboch




JoeSpareBedroom October 14th 06 03:59 PM

LOL! another Ebay "response" scam!
 
"James" wrote in message
link.net...
If you browser is showing the lock on that web site then that means that
the all the exchanges between you and the web site are encrypted. It is
not a completely foolproof encryption but nobody outside of places like
nsa have got the computer horsepower to break it. Plus they would have to
intercept your actual traffic to even begin and the comm companies have
got the major routing nodes and lines pretty well locked down.


I was wondering about keystroke loggers. I don't recall, but it might've
been Eisboch who said he had no need for a firewall that monitored outbound
nasties because he'd never been infected with anything nasty.

Yet.



Eisboch October 14th 06 04:01 PM

LOL! another Ebay "response" scam!
 
"Eisboch" wrote:


Question for you computer experts:

How safe is it to buy something on-line with a credit card using the
vendor's "secure" encrypted ordering page?

Eisboch



"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:


Been doing it for 6 years without a problem. But, go to www.visa.com and
sign up for the "Verified By Visa" thing. And do NOT use your debit card,
ever, for an online purchase.




"James" wrote in message
link.net...


If you browser is showing the lock on that web site then that means that
the all the exchanges between you and the web site are encrypted. It is
not a completely foolproof encryption but nobody outside of places like
nsa have got the computer horsepower to break it. Plus they would have to
intercept your actual traffic to even begin and the comm companies have
got the major routing nodes and lines pretty well locked down.



Thanks. I've also done it for years without any problems so far but as a
precaution I always use the same credit card that I specifically asked to
have only a $1000 dollar limit on. I figured that way my liability, if any,
would be limited if someone was able to get the info.

Eisboch



Reginald P. Smithers III October 14th 06 04:02 PM

LOL! another Ebay "response" scam!
 
Eisboch wrote:
"Clams Canino" wrote in message
ink.net...
"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
news:356Yg.3062

To infiltrate and then what? Call home with what info it finds?

Most spyware is benign and just tracks marketing preferences so as to spam
you better. :)Dangerous spyware can indeed phone home vital info you type
in, so as to rob you.

I've never seen a single thing come to me via Ebay. It's usually those
"freeware" sites that come complete with "free spyware" added in. That's
why I specified a *safe* place for whatshisname to download DVDShrink3.2.

The best way to be safe is to download nothing, past that, be SURE of your
source for "freeware".
The best source for getting spyware added is the "free anti-spyware"
sites.
etc....

-W



Question for you computer experts:

How safe is it to buy something on-line with a credit card using the
vendor's "secure" encrypted ordering page?

Eisboch



I buy online all the time, but normally use Citibank's Virtual Credit
Card. The Card Number is only good for that one order.

Eisboch October 14th 06 04:12 PM

LOL! another Ebay "response" scam!
 

"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
...

I was wondering about keystroke loggers. I don't recall, but it might've
been Eisboch who said he had no need for a firewall that monitored
outbound nasties because he'd never been infected with anything nasty.

Yet.


Yup. That was me. And 4 days after I said it my computer at home picked up
some kind of spyware thing. I keep getting pop-ups trying to sell me
everything from cars to vacations to dates with beautiful, single women.
It's not porn crap or anything ... just annoying junk. I went to
Microsofts's Security Website and did an on-line scan and fix doober. It
found and corrected a worm, but there was one file it said it could not fix.
The computer ran ok for a while, then the stupid pop-ups started all over
again. I adjusted the pop-up blocker to prevent *any* pop-ups, but they
still come through.

I'll take it to a computer shop and let them clean it up.

Eisboch



James October 14th 06 04:19 PM

LOL! another Ebay "response" scam!
 
You have to hunt for bargains that's for sure. Used items can be more
reasonable sometimes. I also try to get creatove in my searches. People
that do lousy listings don't get many responses and their prices tend to
stay lower. I happen to collect a particular variation of wedgwood and I
occasionally find good bargains because the seller thinks you spell it
"wedgewood".

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
On 10/13/2006 10:14 PM, wrote:
So I lsot a boat auction, and never fails, here comes the
scam/spoofers.

I just got a "Response from Ebay Member" letter, asking me for more
photos of my auction. funny, I've never auctioned off anything. and
over in the right hand column i get this:

"Isthis message an offer to buy your item directly through email
withoutwinning the item on eBay? If so, please he! lp make the eBay
marketplacesafer by reporting it to us. These "outside of eBay"
transactions maybe unsafe and are against eBay policy...."


They type worse than I do!

So I sent it to
. and Ebay or Safeharbor will send me
their usual "we're on it!" type of letter.

amazing market place.


I've about given up on bay for the stuff I used to look for the fishing
gear, photo gear, computer gear. There are too many dumbed-down buyers
willing to pay more than retail.




JohnH October 14th 06 04:20 PM

LOL! another Ebay "response" scam!
 
On Sat, 14 Oct 2006 10:18:03 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:


"Clams Canino" wrote in message
link.net...

"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
news:356Yg.3062

To infiltrate and then what? Call home with what info it finds?


Most spyware is benign and just tracks marketing preferences so as to spam
you better. :)Dangerous spyware can indeed phone home vital info you type
in, so as to rob you.

I've never seen a single thing come to me via Ebay. It's usually those
"freeware" sites that come complete with "free spyware" added in. That's
why I specified a *safe* place for whatshisname to download DVDShrink3.2.

The best way to be safe is to download nothing, past that, be SURE of your
source for "freeware".
The best source for getting spyware added is the "free anti-spyware"
sites.
etc....

-W



Question for you computer experts:

How safe is it to buy something on-line with a credit card using the
vendor's "secure" encrypted ordering page?

Eisboch


Bought lots of stuff, never had a problem. Always bought from known names.

Eisboch October 14th 06 04:29 PM

LOL! another Ebay "response" scam!
 

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
. ..

Yup. That was me. And 4 days after I said it my computer at home picked
up some kind of spyware thing. I keep getting pop-ups trying to sell me
everything from cars to vacations to dates with beautiful, single women.
It's not porn crap or anything ... just annoying junk. I went to
Microsofts's Security Website and did an on-line scan and fix doober. It
found and corrected a worm, but there was one file it said it could not
fix. The computer ran ok for a while, then the stupid pop-ups started all
over again. I adjusted the pop-up blocker to prevent *any* pop-ups, but
they still come through.

I'll take it to a computer shop and let them clean it up.

Eisboch


Spyware Doctor. It will clean that one off, run in the background, and
update itself. Works for me.


Thanks. It's not a huge issue, but more of a pain. My prior experiences of
trying various monitoring and protection software like Norton and others
were that they bogged the computer down sometimes and were constantly
requiring you to upgrade, download, or something. Plus, my computer has
always run fine while my wife's computer which has every protection device
known to the computer world installed, is always slow and bogging down.
They are basically the same computer (HP 8000) running on the same home
wireless network.

Oh, well. Time to clean it up and add some antispyware, I guess.

Eisboch



Reginald P. Smithers III October 14th 06 04:32 PM

LOL! another Ebay "response" scam!
 
Eisboch wrote:
"Eisboch" wrote:



Question for you computer experts:

How safe is it to buy something on-line with a credit card using the
vendor's "secure" encrypted ordering page?

Eisboch



"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:

Been doing it for 6 years without a problem. But, go to www.visa.com and
sign up for the "Verified By Visa" thing. And do NOT use your debit card,
ever, for an online purchase.




"James" wrote in message
link.net...


If you browser is showing the lock on that web site then that means that
the all the exchanges between you and the web site are encrypted. It is
not a completely foolproof encryption but nobody outside of places like
nsa have got the computer horsepower to break it. Plus they would have to
intercept your actual traffic to even begin and the comm companies have
got the major routing nodes and lines pretty well locked down.



Thanks. I've also done it for years without any problems so far but as a
precaution I always use the same credit card that I specifically asked to
have only a $1000 dollar limit on. I figured that way my liability, if any,
would be limited if someone was able to get the info.

Eisboch


I think your legal liability for a stolen credit card is $50, but I don
't believe any of the major credit card companies actually hold you
responsible for the $50.

I had someone write $2700 of credit card "checks" to pay off another
credit card (which was probably a stolen credit card), and they
immediately wrote off the total amount. I also had a $8000 card appear
on my card, from Turkey. They wrote that off without any questions.

I had Citibank Security call one day because someone in a town close by
had made 7 charges at the exact same gas station during a one hour
period. I told them they were not mine, and they wrote all of them off.

All of these charges occurred in the same month, so somehow someone got
my credit card number and was using it. I immediately purchased a
shredder and shred anything with any personal info on it. Since I
started using the shredder, I have not had any problems. According to
the credit card company, trash hopping is a common way to get credit
card numbers and is much easier than cracking a secure web site.




Eisboch October 14th 06 04:38 PM

LOL! another Ebay "response" scam!
 

"Reginald P. Smithers III" wrote in message
...


I think your legal liability for a stolen credit card is $50, but I don 't
believe any of the major credit card companies actually hold you
responsible for the $50.

I had someone write $2700 of credit card "checks" to pay off another
credit card (which was probably a stolen credit card), and they
immediately wrote off the total amount. I also had a $8000 card appear on
my card, from Turkey. They wrote that off without any questions.

I had Citibank Security call one day because someone in a town close by
had made 7 charges at the exact same gas station during a one hour period.
I told them they were not mine, and they wrote all of them off.

All of these charges occurred in the same month, so somehow someone got my
credit card number and was using it. I immediately purchased a shredder
and shred anything with any personal info on it. Since I started using
the shredder, I have not had any problems. According to the credit card
company, trash hopping is a common way to get credit card numbers and is
much easier than cracking a secure web site.



I had that happen once with a Discover card. We were home in MA and
Discover called me one Saturday morning asking me if I was doing a lot of
shopping somewhere in Florida using the card. They asked to to verify that
I had the card in my possession, which I did. Someone, somehow had made a
counterfeit card with my account number on it and was having a ball to the
tune of $3,400 in one morning before Discover decided to verify the charges.
It's not known how they got my account number, since I very rarely used that
card.

Eisboch



Clams Canino October 14th 06 04:49 PM

LOL! another Ebay "response" scam!
 

"Eisboch" wrote in message


Thanks. It's not a huge issue, but more of a pain. My prior experiences

of
trying various monitoring and protection software like Norton and others
were that they bogged the computer down sometimes and were constantly
requiring you to upgrade, download, or something. Plus, my computer has
always run fine while my wife's computer which has every protection device
known to the computer world installed, is always slow and bogging down.
They are basically the same computer (HP 8000) running on the same home
wireless network.

Oh, well. Time to clean it up and add some antispyware, I guess.


Start Run Regedit

Look under: Hkey_ Local_ Machine Software MicrosoftWindowsRun

Get to know what's in there (runs at startup) so you can tell if something
gets added.
Most new crap will hide THERE, not in the statup folder of your start-menu
..

-W



JoeSpareBedroom October 14th 06 04:50 PM

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"Eisboch" wrote in message
...

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
. ..

Yup. That was me. And 4 days after I said it my computer at home
picked up some kind of spyware thing. I keep getting pop-ups trying to
sell me everything from cars to vacations to dates with beautiful,
single women. It's not porn crap or anything ... just annoying junk. I
went to Microsofts's Security Website and did an on-line scan and fix
doober. It found and corrected a worm, but there was one file it said
it could not fix. The computer ran ok for a while, then the stupid
pop-ups started all over again. I adjusted the pop-up blocker to
prevent *any* pop-ups, but they still come through.

I'll take it to a computer shop and let them clean it up.

Eisboch


Spyware Doctor. It will clean that one off, run in the background, and
update itself. Works for me.


Thanks. It's not a huge issue, but more of a pain. My prior experiences
of trying various monitoring and protection software like Norton and
others were that they bogged the computer down sometimes and were
constantly requiring you to upgrade, download, or something.


The problem with just saying "Norton" is that there's more than one product.
The suite is a resource pig. The straight AV product is pretty lean. And, if
you are more than slightly aware of its maintenance needs, you've probably
messed with the settings. When it's set up right, it updates itself in the
background. At most, you'll sometimes see a brief message saying "I just
updated and all is cool".

Combine this with the free version of ZoneAlarm (www.zonelabs.com), and your
machine is solid. You will not notice the minimal resource usage.

There's one more reason why some users think their machines are being
"bogged down". You need to turn OFF email monitoring in Norton. It's
redundant, because if you open an email and try to run or save an
attachment, THAT is when it gets scanned a 2nd time. Inbound scanning would
be the first time, but there's no reason to do it. It definitely slows down
Outlook Express, Outlook, and the Mozilla products.



Clams Canino October 14th 06 04:59 PM

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I don't use any safety software. My rule is "Don't open nuthin" unless it's
a .doc or a .jpg AND you know WHO sent it, and WHY they sent it. I've
never caught anything.

-W



JimH October 14th 06 05:04 PM

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"Harry Krause" wrote in message
. ..
On 10/14/2006 11:12 AM, Eisboch wrote:
"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
...
I was wondering about keystroke loggers. I don't recall, but it might've
been Eisboch who said he had no need for a firewall that monitored
outbound nasties because he'd never been infected with anything nasty.

Yet.


Yup. That was me. And 4 days after I said it my computer at home picked
up some kind of spyware thing. I keep getting pop-ups trying to sell me
everything from cars to vacations to dates with beautiful, single women.
It's not porn crap or anything ... just annoying junk. I went to
Microsofts's Security Website and did an on-line scan and fix doober. It
found and corrected a worm, but there was one file it said it could not
fix. The computer ran ok for a while, then the stupid pop-ups started all
over again. I adjusted the pop-up blocker to prevent *any* pop-ups, but
they still come through.

I'll take it to a computer shop and let them clean it up.

Eisboch


Spyware Doctor. It will clean that one off, run in the background, and
update itself. Works for me.


Good program.

I use Webroot Spy Sweeper (running in the background).

One has to be careful not to purchase or download the rogue antispyware
programs out there.

Here is list: http://www.spywarewarrior.com/rogue_...e.htm#products

BTW: For those interested PC Tools (the maker of Spyware Doctor) is
offering a free download of Registry Mechanic v 5.0 until 10-16-06:

Download


Free registration code
http://www.pctools.com/registry-mech.../promo/VNU0306



Eisboch October 14th 06 05:05 PM

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"Clams Canino" wrote in message
ink.net...



Start Run Regedit

Look under: Hkey_ Local_ Machine Software MicrosoftWindowsRun

Get to know what's in there (runs at startup) so you can tell if something
gets added.
Most new crap will hide THERE, not in the statup folder of your
start-menu
.

-W



Holy Crap! I just looked at that on this computer (not the one with the
problem).
How would you possibly know if something new was added? There must be a
ga-zillion files there.

Eisboch



JoeSpareBedroom October 14th 06 05:09 PM

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"Clams Canino" wrote in message
link.net...

I don't use any safety software. My rule is "Don't open nuthin" unless
it's
a .doc or a .jpg AND you know WHO sent it, and WHY they sent it. I've
never caught anything.

-W


Your policy will work well until someone you know sends you an infected .doc
file. It happens all the time. It's not a matter of "if", but a matter of
"when". The worst offenders are people who, for various reasons, have no
protection on their machines.



JimH October 14th 06 05:10 PM

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"Eisboch" wrote in message
...

"Clams Canino" wrote in message
ink.net...



Start Run Regedit

Look under: Hkey_ Local_ Machine Software MicrosoftWindowsRun

Get to know what's in there (runs at startup) so you can tell if
something
gets added.
Most new crap will hide THERE, not in the statup folder of your
start-menu
.

-W



Holy Crap! I just looked at that on this computer (not the one with the
problem).
How would you possibly know if something new was added? There must be a
ga-zillion files there.

Eisboch


Be careful when editing the registry. Before you do make a new restore
point using "System Restore".



Clams Canino October 14th 06 05:11 PM

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Best time to start is when you do a clean windows install. Then check it as
you add your software.

I only have 2 things in mine - both for my Nvidia card. When I do a
ctrl/alt/delete and click
"processes" I only have 24 running - including the printer stuff. How about
YOU??? Heh...

-W

"Eisboch" wrote in message
...

"Clams Canino" wrote in message
ink.net...



Start Run Regedit

Look under: Hkey_ Local_ Machine Software MicrosoftWindowsRun

Get to know what's in there (runs at startup) so you can tell if

something
gets added.
Most new crap will hide THERE, not in the statup folder of your
start-menu
.

-W



Holy Crap! I just looked at that on this computer (not the one with the
problem).
How would you possibly know if something new was added? There must be a
ga-zillion files there.

Eisboch





JoeSpareBedroom October 14th 06 05:12 PM

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"Eisboch" wrote in message
...

"Clams Canino" wrote in message
ink.net...



Start Run Regedit

Look under: Hkey_ Local_ Machine Software MicrosoftWindowsRun

Get to know what's in there (runs at startup) so you can tell if
something
gets added.
Most new crap will hide THERE, not in the statup folder of your
start-menu
.

-W



Holy Crap! I just looked at that on this computer (not the one with the
problem).
How would you possibly know if something new was added? There must be a
ga-zillion files there.

Eisboch


Pen. Paper. Restrict other users from installing anything without the admin
approving it. That would be you, maybe.



Clams Canino October 14th 06 05:13 PM

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" JimH" not telling you @ pffftt.com wrote in message

I said LOOK - Don't edit. Unless you're SURE your editing out mal-ware.

-W

Be careful when editing the registry. Before you do make a new restore
point using "System Restore".





JimH October 14th 06 05:13 PM

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"Eisboch" wrote in message
...

"Clams Canino" wrote in message
ink.net...



Start Run Regedit

Look under: Hkey_ Local_ Machine Software MicrosoftWindowsRun

Get to know what's in there (runs at startup) so you can tell if
something
gets added.
Most new crap will hide THERE, not in the statup folder of your
start-menu
.

-W



Holy Crap! I just looked at that on this computer (not the one with the
problem).
How would you possibly know if something new was added? There must be a
ga-zillion files there.

Eisboch


A good and safe program to see what programs are running in the background
is "Startup Inspector" found he

http://www.windowsstartup.com/



Clams Canino October 14th 06 05:15 PM

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"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message news:6Z7Yg.2998

Your policy will work well until someone you know sends you an infected

..doc
file. It happens all the time. It's not a matter of "if", but a matter of
"when". The worst offenders are people who, for various reasons, have no
protection on their machines.


Well, it's worked for me for over 10 years now... so if ONE finally gets
through... I'll deal with it. :)

-W



JoeSpareBedroom October 14th 06 05:17 PM

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"Clams Canino" wrote in message
ink.net...

"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
news:6Z7Yg.2998

Your policy will work well until someone you know sends you an infected

.doc
file. It happens all the time. It's not a matter of "if", but a matter of
"when". The worst offenders are people who, for various reasons, have no
protection on their machines.


Well, it's worked for me for over 10 years now... so if ONE finally gets
through... I'll deal with it. :)

-W



Maybe. Or it will deal with you. Tell me about your backup strategy.



Clams Canino October 14th 06 05:19 PM

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"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message news:t48Yg.3000

Maybe. Or it will deal with you. Tell me about your backup strategy.


I have 4 systems networked... all docs and picks and music backed up on each
D: drive - not C:

Plus an off-site backup on my NH machine. And that's not counting old hard
drives laying around.

-W



JoeSpareBedroom October 14th 06 05:21 PM

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"Clams Canino" wrote in message
ink.net...

"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
news:t48Yg.3000

Maybe. Or it will deal with you. Tell me about your backup strategy.


I have 4 systems networked... all docs and picks and music backed up on
each
D: drive - not C:

Plus an off-site backup on my NH machine. And that's not counting old
hard
drives laying around.

-W



All backups safe from fire?



Clams Canino October 14th 06 05:24 PM

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"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message news:388Yg.3073

All backups safe from fire?


2 mahchines in the house, one in the shop, one in the pool cabana, one 1000
miles away in NH.

None safe from fire... but unlikely to lose more than one or two machines in
any single incident.

-W




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