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JimH October 14th 06 05:26 PM

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"Clams Canino" wrote in message
ink.net...

" JimH" not telling you @ pffftt.com wrote in message

I said LOOK - Don't edit. Unless you're SURE your editing out mal-ware.

-W

Be careful when editing the registry. Before you do make a new restore
point using "System Restore".





Sorry, I did not mean to infer that you were advising him to edit.



Clams Canino October 14th 06 05:28 PM

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"Clams Canino" wrote in message news:Ya8Yg.7075

None safe from fire... but unlikely to lose more than one or two machines

in
any single incident.

-W


The oldest files in My Documents folder go back to the mid 80's and were
created on a 10 meg hard disk. :))

-W



Eisboch October 14th 06 05:30 PM

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"Clams Canino" wrote in message
ink.net...
Best time to start is when you do a clean windows install. Then check it
as
you add your software.

I only have 2 things in mine - both for my Nvidia card. When I do a
ctrl/alt/delete and click
"processes" I only have 24 running - including the printer stuff. How
about
YOU??? Heh...

-W

"Eisboch" wrote in message
...

"Clams Canino" wrote in message
ink.net...



Start Run Regedit

Look under: Hkey_ Local_ Machine Software MicrosoftWindowsRun

Get to know what's in there (runs at startup) so you can tell if

something
gets added.
Most new crap will hide THERE, not in the statup folder of your
start-menu
.

-W



Holy Crap! I just looked at that on this computer (not the one with the
problem).
How would you possibly know if something new was added? There must be a
ga-zillion files there.

Eisboch




Clams ... at first I didn't follow your instructions correctly, but I now
see that once you get down to the "run" there isn't that many items to look
at. When I get home I'll check the other computer and see if there is
anything funny looking in there.

Eisboch



JoeSpareBedroom October 14th 06 05:36 PM

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This site can be used purely for informational purposes (read, but touch
nothing), or for pure evil, inflicted by you, on you. :-)
http://www.winguides.com/registry/



Eisboch October 14th 06 05:46 PM

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" JimH" not telling you @ pffftt.com wrote in message
. ..


Holy Crap! I just looked at that on this computer (not the one with the
problem).
How would you possibly know if something new was added? There must be a
ga-zillion files there.

Eisboch


Be careful when editing the registry. Before you do make a new restore
point using "System Restore".


You guys are pushing my small envelope of computer knowledge. I was
thinking that if I found something strange, I would edit one word in the
file ... add a letter or something .... and then see if the problem went
away. If not ... I could go back and remove the added letter.

But ... maybe I better let someone who knows what they are doing do it.

I had an old 486 computer running Windows 3.1 that I had not used for years.
I started playing with it... seeing how many files in the Windows directory
I could delete and still have the computer run. Kinda like playing computer
roulette.
I made it quite a ways before it gave up.

Eisboch

Eisboch



Clams Canino October 14th 06 05:50 PM

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"Eisboch" wrote in message

You guys are pushing my small envelope of computer knowledge. I was
thinking that if I found something strange, I would edit one word in the
file ... add a letter or something .... and then see if the problem went
away. If not ... I could go back and remove the added letter.


You can do that... just run system restore FIRST (before you start playing)
to save your "pre-state".

-W



Clams Canino October 14th 06 05:51 PM

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Better yet..... write down EVERTHING that starts under "run" and do a
web-search on it.

That bad ones ARE known and will appear.

-W

"Clams Canino" wrote in message
ink.net...

"Eisboch" wrote in message

You guys are pushing my small envelope of computer knowledge. I was
thinking that if I found something strange, I would edit one word in the
file ... add a letter or something .... and then see if the problem went
away. If not ... I could go back and remove the added letter.


You can do that... just run system restore FIRST (before you start

playing)
to save your "pre-state".

-W





JoeSpareBedroom October 14th 06 06:01 PM

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"Eisboch" wrote in message
...

" JimH" not telling you @ pffftt.com wrote in message
. ..


Holy Crap! I just looked at that on this computer (not the one with
the problem).
How would you possibly know if something new was added? There must be a
ga-zillion files there.

Eisboch


Be careful when editing the registry. Before you do make a new restore
point using "System Restore".


You guys are pushing my small envelope of computer knowledge. I was
thinking that if I found something strange, I would edit one word in the
file ... add a letter or something .... and then see if the problem went
away. If not ... I could go back and remove the added letter.


You are making this SO difficult for yourself.

Go he
www.securitytango.com

The site's run by 3 guys who have been handling problems like this since
forever. Read the page, then on the left, click "Let's Dance". You could
follow all the instructions completely, or just read and find the link to
the free virus scan - I don't recall its name, but it's there. These guys
have helped thousands of listeners via their radio show. One guy's the
network admin for the University of Rochester, and another's been building,
selling and servicing machines for many years. The 3rd guy - I dunno what he
does. Their suggestions are all 100% dependable.



Reginald P. Smithers III October 14th 06 06:10 PM

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Eisboch wrote:
"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
...
I was wondering about keystroke loggers. I don't recall, but it might've
been Eisboch who said he had no need for a firewall that monitored
outbound nasties because he'd never been infected with anything nasty.

Yet.


Yup. That was me. And 4 days after I said it my computer at home picked up
some kind of spyware thing. I keep getting pop-ups trying to sell me
everything from cars to vacations to dates with beautiful, single women.
It's not porn crap or anything ... just annoying junk. I went to
Microsofts's Security Website and did an on-line scan and fix doober. It
found and corrected a worm, but there was one file it said it could not fix.
The computer ran ok for a while, then the stupid pop-ups started all over
again. I adjusted the pop-up blocker to prevent *any* pop-ups, but they
still come through.

I'll take it to a computer shop and let them clean it up.

Eisboch



I had a similar worm at work, and it was a bitch, because it reinstalls
itself every time you reboot. It started in the receptionist's
computer and worked it's way into the Network.

Spybot, Windows Defender or AdAware were not ability to delete the worm.
Our contracted computer "experts", tried for a month to get rid of the
worm without success.

I used HiJackThis and the experts at
http://www.tomcoyote.org/hjt/ to determine what was causing the
problem and how to correct it.

I found an unusual file in the start up directory. It was a legitimate
Windows file name, but was really the worm. The exe file would credit a
random and different exe file every time it would start up. In the
receptionist's computer It had created so many new files that there was
over 3000 processes running in the background.

I had to start up in the safe mode manually delete the file and the
start up lines in the registry. Hopefully your computer shop will spend
the time to verify each and every item involved in the windows start up
to make sure the file is actually a legitimate file.

I used HiJackThis

http://www.download.com/HijackThis/3...-10379544.html

to review the registry for start up items and any other methods used by
spyware to take over your computer.

"HijackThis lists the contents of key areas of the Registry and hard
drive--areas that are used by both legitimate programmers and hijackers.
The program is continually updated to detect and remove new hijacks. It
does not target specific programs and URLs, only the methods used by
hijackers to force you onto their sites. As a result, false positives
are imminent, and unless you're sure about what you're doing, you always
should consult with knowledgable folks before deleting anything. "

from Download.com

..






basskisser October 14th 06 06:47 PM

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wrote:
So I lsot a boat auction, and never fails, here comes the
scam/spoofers.

I just got a "Response from Ebay Member" letter, asking me for more
photos of my auction. funny, I've never auctioned off anything. and
over in the right hand column i get this:

"Isthis message an offer to buy your item directly through email
withoutwinning the item on eBay? If so, please he! lp make the eBay
marketplacesafer by reporting it to us. These "outside of eBay"
transactions maybe unsafe and are against eBay policy...."


They type worse than I do!

So I sent it to
. and Ebay or Safeharbor will send me
their usual "we're on it!" type of letter.

amazing market place.


Are they selling any Cherokees that aren't "rated" for stalls and
rolls???


Jack Goff October 14th 06 08:31 PM

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On Sat, 14 Oct 2006 16:28:22 GMT, "Clams Canino"
wrote:


"Clams Canino" wrote in message news:Ya8Yg.7075

None safe from fire... but unlikely to lose more than one or two machines

in
any single incident.

-W


The oldest files in My Documents folder go back to the mid 80's and were
created on a 10 meg hard disk. :))

-W


Seagate ST-213 ?

Can you type debug g=C800:5 ?

Those were the days... not.

Calif Bill October 14th 06 08:34 PM

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"Eisboch" wrote in message
...
"Eisboch" wrote:



Question for you computer experts:

How safe is it to buy something on-line with a credit card using the
vendor's "secure" encrypted ordering page?

Eisboch



"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:


Been doing it for 6 years without a problem. But, go to www.visa.com and
sign up for the "Verified By Visa" thing. And do NOT use your debit card,
ever, for an online purchase.




"James" wrote in message
link.net...


If you browser is showing the lock on that web site then that means that
the all the exchanges between you and the web site are encrypted. It is
not a completely foolproof encryption but nobody outside of places like
nsa have got the computer horsepower to break it. Plus they would have
to intercept your actual traffic to even begin and the comm companies
have got the major routing nodes and lines pretty well locked down.



Thanks. I've also done it for years without any problems so far but as a
precaution I always use the same credit card that I specifically asked to
have only a $1000 dollar limit on. I figured that way my liability, if
any, would be limited if someone was able to get the info.

Eisboch


You can ask for some one time use numbers from the CC company for just this
kind of shopping.



Eisboch October 14th 06 08:37 PM

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"Calif Bill" wrote in message
ink.net...

"Eisboch" wrote:



Question for you computer experts:

How safe is it to buy something on-line with a credit card using the
vendor's "secure" encrypted ordering page?

Eisboch



You can ask for some one time use numbers from the CC company for just
this kind of shopping.


Somebody else mentioned that also. I never knew that. Good idea with
Christmas coming up and eveything...

Eisboch



Bert Robbins October 14th 06 08:39 PM

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Eisboch wrote:
"Clams Canino" wrote in message
ink.net...
"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
news:356Yg.3062

To infiltrate and then what? Call home with what info it finds?

Most spyware is benign and just tracks marketing preferences so as to spam
you better. :)Dangerous spyware can indeed phone home vital info you type
in, so as to rob you.

I've never seen a single thing come to me via Ebay. It's usually those
"freeware" sites that come complete with "free spyware" added in. That's
why I specified a *safe* place for whatshisname to download DVDShrink3.2.

The best way to be safe is to download nothing, past that, be SURE of your
source for "freeware".
The best source for getting spyware added is the "free anti-spyware"
sites.
etc....

-W



Question for you computer experts:

How safe is it to buy something on-line with a credit card using the
vendor's "secure" encrypted ordering page?


Purchase from vendors you would also do face to fact business with. Or,
get a one-time use credit card account. to make Internet purchases.

Reginald P. Smithers III October 14th 06 08:45 PM

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Calif Bill wrote:
"Eisboch" wrote in message
...
"Eisboch" wrote:


Question for you computer experts:

How safe is it to buy something on-line with a credit card using the
vendor's "secure" encrypted ordering page?

Eisboch


"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:

Been doing it for 6 years without a problem. But, go to www.visa.com and
sign up for the "Verified By Visa" thing. And do NOT use your debit card,
ever, for an online purchase.



"James" wrote in message
link.net...


If you browser is showing the lock on that web site then that means that
the all the exchanges between you and the web site are encrypted. It is
not a completely foolproof encryption but nobody outside of places like
nsa have got the computer horsepower to break it. Plus they would have
to intercept your actual traffic to even begin and the comm companies
have got the major routing nodes and lines pretty well locked down.


Thanks. I've also done it for years without any problems so far but as a
precaution I always use the same credit card that I specifically asked to
have only a $1000 dollar limit on. I figured that way my liability, if
any, would be limited if someone was able to get the info.

Eisboch


You can ask for some one time use numbers from the CC company for just this
kind of shopping.


Citibank makes it easy with a little button icon that sits on your
browser toolbar. I click on the icon and I log on to get a one time
account number. You can then autofill to complete the order form
including name and address info.

http://www.citibank.com/us/cards/tour/cb/shp_van.htm

JimH October 14th 06 09:21 PM

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"Clams Canino" wrote in message
link.net...

wrote in message
ups.com...

Clams Canino wrote:
How are they seeing your email addy? Is it your ebay screen name??
Bidders email addys are NOT visible to the public.

-W



ebay is constantly being "hacked". seems like they can get your email
add's. but can only get sensetive info from you. Like, getting these
bogus letters, and clicking on the links provided in the letter. Some
will ask for your password, some will take you to an open page of
nothing. but has provided an anti security worm, to infiltrate
(variation of a trojan horse) to seek and gather the info.


I've got 2 Ebay accounts (buyer and seller). I've NEVER gotten emails to
my
buyers account.
I only get them to my sellers account if my email addy was in the ad - or
if
the phish came through the official ebay emails. I totally disagree that
Ebay is being hacked. There's a reason that your email is being laid bare
to
the world. - really.

-W



I have not received any email regarding my Ebay account but I have received
fake emails regarding my Paypal account. Before responding I checked with
Paypal and was told the emails were fraud so I flushed them.

Know what the retail price of the product is, purchase from established
members and pay with Pay (using a credit card)....following these guidelines
I have not had a problem.



Calif Bill October 14th 06 11:02 PM

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"Tom Francis" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 14 Oct 2006 13:59:24 GMT, "Clams Canino"
wrote:

I've got 2 Ebay accounts (buyer and seller). I've NEVER gotten emails to
my
buyers account.


I have.

And to add insult to injury, I opened a Pay Pal account (which is
owned by eBay I believe) because sometimes people want to pay for
things via Pay Pal (which is fine) and within a half hour, I received
three phishing Pay Pal messages asking me to confirm my account.

That afternoon I received four more - next day six in the morning and
a couple more in the afternoon.

Now you tell me why that happened.

Add insult to injury - there is a blog that I donate to using that
same Pay Pal account and the same thing happened as when I opened it.

And I get at least two or three a week about the Pay Pal account.


I do not have a paypal account and get the same phishing messages.



P Fritz October 15th 06 03:01 AM

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wrote:
"So I lsot " Sorry, I "lost"

I got outbid.

WOW, I just now recieved another spoof'r.

Someone named "carlos" is wanting to know what my BIN price is and will
I accept paypal.


Huh. I don't have a paypal acct. and I don't have anything for sale.

interesting

Clams Canino wrote:

wrote in message
groups.com...


So I lsot a boat auction, and never fails, here comes the
scam/spoofers.


What exactly did you do to a boat auction?

I could get "list", sold", or "lost" out of that.. :))

-W



The latest phishing email I got was for a deposit to my paypal account
for 'x' dollars. Of course, the link to verify was not paypal.....but
it looked good.

John Wentworth October 15th 06 03:45 PM

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Windows XP and Me contain a program called msconfig (Start-Run-type msconfig
and select Startup) that will identify those programs that will autorun.

Or, go to http://www.sysinternals.com/Utilities/Autoruns.html for a freeware
tool that does the same and more, and works on all Windows platforms. Much
safer than editing the registry.

At the same site look at ProcessExplorer; this is a tool that provides
information on every process running on your computer.
http://www.sysinternals.com/Utilitie...sExplorer.html If you're not
sure if a process should be running go to
http://www.sysinfo.org/startuplist.php to identify the good guys and bad
guys.




den October 16th 06 01:56 PM

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Eisboch wrote:
Oh, well. Time to clean it up and add some antispyware, I guess.


I have over 200 successful transactions on ebay, as densnet. and
have saved thousands of dollars. ONE incident where a girl sent me a
toy instead of a $400. computer. I called the creditcard company, and
quashed it. NO CHARGE. Then I tried working with squaredeal, paypal,
and ebay, and got nowhere.
As for spyware, Virus etc protection I spent $70.00 for V-Com
SystemSuite. When I get a new, or used computer,OFFLINE, I remove all
norton/symantec crap, then using regedit remove all references to it.
I install Systemsuite, and make a rescue disk.I have had virtually 0
problems for the last 5 or 6 years. They notify me when a new pattern
file is avaliable for download, and they stay ahead of the onslaught of
the sickos. The Systemsuite firewall is very effective, and you can
also monitor traffic in, and out of your system. Note: (I get NO
compensation for my opinion).
Tell your wife to quit going to the "free" game sites. There is
NOTHING free on the web! They are notorious for embedding trash in the
screensavers, and games, and harvest info from you. If she doesn't do
that stuff I apologize for making that assumption.
I send ALL spoofs, and phishes to the appropriate sites, so they
have tools to stomp those critters.
Have fun, be safe
Den


Eisboch October 16th 06 02:25 PM

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"den" wrote in message
oups.com...

Tell your wife to quit going to the "free" game sites. There is
NOTHING free on the web! They are notorious for embedding trash in the
screensavers, and games, and harvest info from you. If she doesn't do
that stuff I apologize for making that assumption.



She doesn't, but she lets the grandkids "play" games on the computer when
they come over. Seven year olds seem to know all the free game sites, so
you likely have a good point and suggestion.

Eisboch



JohnH October 16th 06 02:41 PM

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On Mon, 16 Oct 2006 09:25:13 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:


"den" wrote in message
roups.com...

Tell your wife to quit going to the "free" game sites. There is
NOTHING free on the web! They are notorious for embedding trash in the
screensavers, and games, and harvest info from you. If she doesn't do
that stuff I apologize for making that assumption.



She doesn't, but she lets the grandkids "play" games on the computer when
they come over. Seven year olds seem to know all the free game sites, so
you likely have a good point and suggestion.

Eisboch


Some advice: Buy some games on CD's. Leggo Racers, Polaris Snowcross, and
Need for Speed have kept my grandkids occupied for many hours, and they
*never* get on the internet.

Toy r Us is a decent source for kids games on CDs. They'd probably
appreciate a joystick too.

Eisboch October 16th 06 02:47 PM

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"JohnH" wrote in message
...


Some advice: Buy some games on CD's. Leggo Racers, Polaris Snowcross, and
Need for Speed have kept my grandkids occupied for many hours, and they
*never* get on the internet.

Toy r Us is a decent source for kids games on CDs. They'd probably
appreciate a joystick too.


You're not going to believe this .... but here's what Mrs.E. got for the
grandkids to play with. She got it from some company that reconditions
video arcade games. I built the little building in the garage to go along
with the General Lee. Look in the door.

http://www.eisboch.com/boarsnest.jpg

Eisboch



JoeSpareBedroom October 16th 06 02:56 PM

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"Eisboch" wrote in message
...

"den" wrote in message
oups.com...

Tell your wife to quit going to the "free" game sites. There is
NOTHING free on the web! They are notorious for embedding trash in the
screensavers, and games, and harvest info from you. If she doesn't do
that stuff I apologize for making that assumption.



She doesn't, but she lets the grandkids "play" games on the computer when
they come over. Seven year olds seem to know all the free game sites, so
you likely have a good point and suggestion.

Eisboch


Oh....your wife WANTS problems on the computer. Why didn't you just say so?
:-)



JohnH October 16th 06 03:56 PM

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On Mon, 16 Oct 2006 09:47:42 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:


"JohnH" wrote in message
.. .


Some advice: Buy some games on CD's. Leggo Racers, Polaris Snowcross, and
Need for Speed have kept my grandkids occupied for many hours, and they
*never* get on the internet.

Toy r Us is a decent source for kids games on CDs. They'd probably
appreciate a joystick too.


You're not going to believe this .... but here's what Mrs.E. got for the
grandkids to play with. She got it from some company that reconditions
video arcade games. I built the little building in the garage to go along
with the General Lee. Look in the door.

http://www.eisboch.com/boarsnest.jpg

Eisboch


Well, that oughta keep 'em off the damn internet! Holy smokes!

Does that thing have more than one game on it? I find they get bored with
the same game if they're here for more than a few hours. When we were
getting the Belarussian kid, I bought a used computer and rigged it so he
could get on the internet and chat with his friends. He could download
anything he wanted on that computer, but he couldn't touch mine. That
worked quite well. He used that machine for three years, and when we
stopped taking him for the summer, I just trashed the machine.

Eisboch October 16th 06 04:01 PM

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"JohnH" wrote in message
...

Does that thing have more than one game on it? I find they get bored with
the same game if they're here for more than a few hours.


It has over 100 different games. They are on a CD or DVD type disk. You can
order more from the manufacturer, but we haven't.

I've never played the thing, other than initially setting it up.

Eisboch



den October 30th 06 07:44 PM

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P Fritz wrote:
wrote:
"So I lsot " Sorry, I "lost"


The latest phishing email I got was for a deposit to my paypal account
for 'x' dollars. Of course, the link to verify was not paypal.....but
it looked good.


Hope you forwarded the phishing email to spoof at paypal.com They are
aware of this crap, and try to hammer the perps.
Den
"There is nothing - absolutely nothing - half so much worth doing
as simply messing about in boats." -- Kenneth Grahame
www.densnet.com



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