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Clams Canino wrote:
How are they seeing your email addy? Is it your ebay screen name??
Bidders email addys are NOT visible to the public.

-W


ebay is constantly being "hacked". seems like they can get your email
add's. but can only get sensetive info from you. Like, getting these
bogus letters, and clicking on the links provided in the letter. Some
will ask for your password, some will take you to an open page of
nothing. but has provided an anti security worm, to infiltrate
(variation of a trojan horse) to seek and gather the info.


To infiltrate and then what? Call home with what info it finds?

"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message news:356Yg.3062

To infiltrate and then what? Call home with what info it finds?


Most spyware is benign and just tracks marketing preferences so as to spam
you better. Dangerous spyware can indeed phone home vital info you type
in, so as to rob you.

I've never seen a single thing come to me via Ebay. It's usually those
"freeware" sites that come complete with "free spyware" added in. That's
why I specified a *safe* place for whatshisname to download DVDShrink3.2.

The best way to be safe is to download nothing, past that, be SURE of your
source for "freeware".
The best source for getting spyware added is the "free anti-spyware" sites.
etc....

-W

"Clams Canino" wrote in message
ink.net...

"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
news:356Yg.3062

To infiltrate and then what? Call home with what info it finds?


Most spyware is benign and just tracks marketing preferences so as to spam
you better. Dangerous spyware can indeed phone home vital info you type
in, so as to rob you.

I've never seen a single thing come to me via Ebay. It's usually those
"freeware" sites that come complete with "free spyware" added in. That's
why I specified a *safe* place for whatshisname to download DVDShrink3.2.

The best way to be safe is to download nothing, past that, be SURE of your
source for "freeware".
The best source for getting spyware added is the "free anti-spyware"
sites.
etc....

-W


Question for you computer experts:

How safe is it to buy something on-line with a credit card using the
vendor's "secure" encrypted ordering page?

Eisboch

"Eisboch" wrote in message
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"Clams Canino" wrote in message
ink.net...

"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
news:356Yg.3062

To infiltrate and then what? Call home with what info it finds?


Most spyware is benign and just tracks marketing preferences so as to
spam
you better. Dangerous spyware can indeed phone home vital info you type
in, so as to rob you.

I've never seen a single thing come to me via Ebay. It's usually those
"freeware" sites that come complete with "free spyware" added in. That's
why I specified a *safe* place for whatshisname to download DVDShrink3.2.

The best way to be safe is to download nothing, past that, be SURE of
your
source for "freeware".
The best source for getting spyware added is the "free anti-spyware"
sites.
etc....

-W


Question for you computer experts:

How safe is it to buy something on-line with a credit card using the
vendor's "secure" encrypted ordering page?

Eisboch


Been doing it for 6 years without a problem. But, go to www.visa.com and
sign up for the "Verified By Visa" thing. And do NOT use your debit card,
ever, for an online purchase.

If you browser is showing the lock on that web site then that means that the
all the exchanges between you and the web site are encrypted. It is not a
completely foolproof encryption but nobody outside of places like nsa have
got the computer horsepower to break it. Plus they would have to intercept
your actual traffic to even begin and the comm companies have got the major
routing nodes and lines pretty well locked down.

You do have some vulnerability in that you are assuming that the other party
has taken the effort to secure their site and servers. This is not likely
to be a problem with big companies like amazon, ebay, walmart, etc. But mom
and pop operations that have decided to do their own servers may not be so
good. Usually you can tell if the store is doing their own thing or buying
web services form a big web server shop.

I once received an invitation to list our vacation rental propery on a new
site for free. I went to it and signed up to get an account. After I
snooped around a while I realized that they had left access to their
vacation site user id/password file open on their server. There along with
everyone else was my new id and password to get on their site. I downloaded
it and emailed them a copy suggesting they clean it up.

"Eisboch" wrote in message
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"Clams Canino" wrote in message
ink.net...

"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
news:356Yg.3062

To infiltrate and then what? Call home with what info it finds?


Most spyware is benign and just tracks marketing preferences so as to
spam
you better. Dangerous spyware can indeed phone home vital info you type
in, so as to rob you.

I've never seen a single thing come to me via Ebay. It's usually those
"freeware" sites that come complete with "free spyware" added in. That's
why I specified a *safe* place for whatshisname to download DVDShrink3.2.

The best way to be safe is to download nothing, past that, be SURE of
your
source for "freeware".
The best source for getting spyware added is the "free anti-spyware"
sites.
etc....

-W


Question for you computer experts:

How safe is it to buy something on-line with a credit card using the
vendor's "secure" encrypted ordering page?

Eisboch

"James" wrote in message
link.net...
If you browser is showing the lock on that web site then that means that
the all the exchanges between you and the web site are encrypted. It is
not a completely foolproof encryption but nobody outside of places like
nsa have got the computer horsepower to break it. Plus they would have to
intercept your actual traffic to even begin and the comm companies have
got the major routing nodes and lines pretty well locked down.

I was wondering about keystroke loggers. I don't recall, but it might've
been Eisboch who said he had no need for a firewall that monitored outbound
nasties because he'd never been infected with anything nasty.

Yet.

"Eisboch" wrote:


Question for you computer experts:

How safe is it to buy something on-line with a credit card using the
vendor's "secure" encrypted ordering page?

Eisboch



"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:


Been doing it for 6 years without a problem. But, go to www.visa.com and
sign up for the "Verified By Visa" thing. And do NOT use your debit card,
ever, for an online purchase.



"James" wrote in message
link.net...


If you browser is showing the lock on that web site then that means that
the all the exchanges between you and the web site are encrypted. It is
not a completely foolproof encryption but nobody outside of places like
nsa have got the computer horsepower to break it. Plus they would have to
intercept your actual traffic to even begin and the comm companies have
got the major routing nodes and lines pretty well locked down.



Thanks. I've also done it for years without any problems so far but as a
precaution I always use the same credit card that I specifically asked to
have only a $1000 dollar limit on. I figured that way my liability, if any,
would be limited if someone was able to get the info.

Eisboch

Eisboch wrote:
"Clams Canino" wrote in message
ink.net...
"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
news:356Yg.3062

To infiltrate and then what? Call home with what info it finds?

Most spyware is benign and just tracks marketing preferences so as to spam
you better. Dangerous spyware can indeed phone home vital info you type
in, so as to rob you.

I've never seen a single thing come to me via Ebay. It's usually those
"freeware" sites that come complete with "free spyware" added in. That's
why I specified a *safe* place for whatshisname to download DVDShrink3.2.

The best way to be safe is to download nothing, past that, be SURE of your
source for "freeware".
The best source for getting spyware added is the "free anti-spyware"
sites.
etc....

-W


Question for you computer experts:

How safe is it to buy something on-line with a credit card using the
vendor's "secure" encrypted ordering page?

Eisboch



I buy online all the time, but normally use Citibank's Virtual Credit
Card. The Card Number is only good for that one order.

"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
...

I was wondering about keystroke loggers. I don't recall, but it might've
been Eisboch who said he had no need for a firewall that monitored
outbound nasties because he'd never been infected with anything nasty.

Yet.


Yup. That was me. And 4 days after I said it my computer at home picked up
some kind of spyware thing. I keep getting pop-ups trying to sell me
everything from cars to vacations to dates with beautiful, single women.
It's not porn crap or anything ... just annoying junk. I went to
Microsofts's Security Website and did an on-line scan and fix doober. It
found and corrected a worm, but there was one file it said it could not fix.
The computer ran ok for a while, then the stupid pop-ups started all over
again. I adjusted the pop-up blocker to prevent *any* pop-ups, but they
still come through.

I'll take it to a computer shop and let them clean it up.

Eisboch

You have to hunt for bargains that's for sure. Used items can be more
reasonable sometimes. I also try to get creatove in my searches. People
that do lousy listings don't get many responses and their prices tend to
stay lower. I happen to collect a particular variation of wedgwood and I
occasionally find good bargains because the seller thinks you spell it
"wedgewood".

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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On 10/13/2006 10:14 PM, wrote:
So I lsot a boat auction, and never fails, here comes the
scam/spoofers.

I just got a "Response from Ebay Member" letter, asking me for more
photos of my auction. funny, I've never auctioned off anything. and
over in the right hand column i get this:

"Isthis message an offer to buy your item directly through email
withoutwinning the item on eBay? If so, please he! lp make the eBay
marketplacesafer by reporting it to us. These "outside of eBay"
transactions maybe unsafe and are against eBay policy...."


They type worse than I do!

So I sent it to . and Ebay or Safeharbor will send me
their usual "we're on it!" type of letter.

amazing market place.


I've about given up on bay for the stuff I used to look for the fishing
gear, photo gear, computer gear. There are too many dumbed-down buyers
willing to pay more than retail.