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"NOYB" wrote in message
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"Chuck Gould" wrote in message
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NOYB wrote:
"Chuck Gould" wrote in message
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Weren't just about the same folks now calling for a boycott of CITGO
demanding that everybody smash all of their Dixie Chicks CD's a couple
of years ago? The DC's seem to be back stronger than ever now

Nope. The Dixie Chicks had to cancel numerous concert dates across this
country due to poor ticket sales, and replace them with concerts in
Canada.


It's probably a rare day that we can both be reasonably right on the
same issue, NOYB.
Record sales are through the roof right now for the Chicks.

Thanks to the international market.

Last album
sold over a half million copies in the first week! One of the reasons
their concerts didn't sell very well in the south didn't have much to
do with the fans.

Sure it did. It had *alot* to do with the insults they hurled at Bush,
and the insults they hurled at country fans in general (remember the spat
with Reba McIntyre?)



After all, somebody is buying all those records,
aren't they?

Yup.
Canadians, Australians, and the Brits.

? The biggest problems the Chicks had was that certain radio
stations, notably those owned by the network that airs Rush Limbaugh
(and that can be all of the stations in a lot of smaller communities)
refused to allow the promoters to buy advertising time on their radio
stations.

The biggest problem the Chicks had was their mouths.


From an article on the net:

I'm not interested in what some blogger decided to write on the readily
editable Wikipedia.






But here's a practical suggestion for you. I would suspect that,
unlike
roadside filling stations, CITGO probably doesn't own very many of the
fuel docks. It would be more likely that the fuel docks are privately
owned and buy fuel from CITGO wholesale (so part of your money
supports
an independent American small businessperson who probably votes a lot
like you do- see how complicated this can get?) If you have a
privately
owned fuel dock selling CITGO fuel and you *really* feel strongly
about
the situation, get up a petition signed by yourself and several other
people on the dock *requesting* that the fuel dock owner switch to a
different brand of fuel.


Why get a petition? He'll get the point more effectively when he sees
declining fuel sales.

No, the point here is that he probably *won't* see any declining fuel
sales if (as in most locations) there isn't another fuel dock in the
immediate vicinity.

You're discounting the fact that people can turn to mobile fueling
services.


Interesting to read Rangel's and Pelosi's statements to Chavez
yesterday......a day late and an obvious attempt at damage control as they
know they (the libs) created the climate that paved the way for such
outlandish remarks from Chavez at the UN. Chavez probably thought that
since they have done it for the past several years it is OK for him to do
the same.

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Harry Krause wrote:
On 9/22/2006 5:04 PM, NOYB wrote:
"Chuck Gould" wrote in message
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NOYB wrote:
"Chuck Gould" wrote in message
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Weren't just about the same folks now calling for a boycott of CITGO
demanding that everybody smash all of their Dixie Chicks CD's a couple
of years ago? The DC's seem to be back stronger than ever now
Nope. The Dixie Chicks had to cancel numerous concert dates across this
country due to poor ticket sales, and replace them with concerts in
Canada.

It's probably a rare day that we can both be reasonably right on the
same issue, NOYB.
Record sales are through the roof right now for the Chicks.

Thanks to the international market.

Last album
sold over a half million copies in the first week! One of the reasons
their concerts didn't sell very well in the south didn't have much to
do with the fans.

Sure it did. It had *alot* to do with the insults they hurled at Bush, and
the insults they hurled at country fans in general (remember the spat with
Reba McIntyre?)



After all, somebody is buying all those records,
aren't they?

Yup.
Canadians, Australians, and the Brits.


We have all their CDs, including the latest. We each have them on our
iPODs, too. Not only do we like them and their music, but we feel it is
our patriotic duty to support them and their music against President
Devil and his destruction of the Constitution and the Republic.

What *is* that smell? Smells like...sulfur.

:}

It's the same old right wing bull**** we've been force fed since the
idiot took office. If you dare say anything negative about Bush, his
henchmen, Republicans, etc. you are un-Amurican, unpatriotic, etc. When
listening to Hannity's screed the other day, just to see what he had to
say, it was absolutely hilarious. He went on and on about how ANYONE
dare say something negative about ANY president was just awful, blah
blah blah, it shouldn't matter what political affiliation, you should
always respect your president, blah, blah. He should listen to tapes of
himself blasting Clinton, then. But, in typical right wing fashion,
it's only applicable when a right winger is in office!!

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NOYB wrote:


After all, somebody is buying all those records,
aren't they?

Yup.
Canadians, Australians, and the Brits.

A lot of them must be flying to Texas to do so. 20,000 of those 520,000
copies were sold in Houston alone.


You're discounting the fact that people can turn to mobile fueling services.

And in that case have *no idea* what brand of fuel they're getting.
Furthermore, a lot of
marinas associated with fuel docks aren't going to let a competing fuel
sales vehicle pull up and start pumping. There are environmental
concerns to consider, as well as the fact that the marina is getting a
rake-off from the fuel dock and wouldn't get one from some guy in stove
oil truck.

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JimH wrote:
Not OT as there are Citgo gas stations at marinas across the US.

With every dollar you spend at a Citgo station (owned by Hugo Chavez) you
put money towards the weapons he purchases with an aim to kill you, your
family and your friends in the United States. Those dollars will
eventually
buy the nuclear missiles he will station on Cuba.

Doubt me? Just wait. Once Fidel passes away we will see the Cuban
missile
crisis relived, this time more volatile and lead by Hugo Chavez.

I think the mutual animosity between Bush and Chavez has to do with
Chavez nationalized their oil industry and Bush tried (and failed) to
engineer a military coup against Chavez.

When someone tries to stage a coup against a country leader (and a
democratically elected leader), that country leader is not going to be
friendly to that person. This is unavoidable that Chavez hates Bush so
much.

When a small country whose only important strategy resource in the
country is oil, that small country will try to gain control over that
strategy resource in their country to maximize their national interest.
Otherwise, that small country would have very little bargaining power
as comparing to gaint mult-national companies (that can be as powerful
as the small country). Therefore, this is probably unavoidable that
Chavez wanted to nationalize their oil industry. Bush, being friendly
to big oil firms in US, of course does all kind of things to hurt
Chavez.

I think Bush should start believing what he has preached (democracy and
all these) and accepts that Chavez is a democratically elected leader
that represents the will of their people, and start talking to him and
repairing the damaged relationship between two countries. And Chavez
should get out from the "garrison state" mentality and stop wasting oil
money to buy friends.

Meanwhile, I will continue getting oil from Citgo or the like as long
as the price is right.

Jay Chan


Good for you! And you are the same guy who wants to dump the human waste
collected in 5 gallon buckets on your boat into your garbage cans.

You certainly maintain some high standards and care about the future of our
children Jay!

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"basskisser" wrote in message
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JimH wrote:
Not OT as there are Citgo gas stations at marinas across the US.

With every dollar you spend at a Citgo station (owned by Hugo Chavez) you
put money towards the weapons he purchases with an aim to kill you, your
family and your friends in the United States. Those dollars will
eventually
buy the nuclear missiles he will station on Cuba.

Doubt me? Just wait. Once Fidel passes away we will see the Cuban
missile
crisis relived, this time more volatile and lead by Hugo Chavez.


So, you want to boycott an oil company that tried and did more for the
U.S. when we were running low on crude?

http://www.usatoday.com/money/indust...ver-usat_x.htm


Dumbass. You just proved my point.

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JimH wrote:

Interesting to read Rangel's and Pelosi's statements to Chavez
yesterday......a day late and an obvious attempt at damage control as they
know they (the libs) created the climate that paved the way for such
outlandish remarks from Chavez at the UN. Chavez probably thought that
since they have done it for the past several years it is OK for him to do
the same.

Yeah, really. Thank heavens that no Americans ever said anything
negative about previous presidents. Why do you suppose that a country
like the US, where no president prior to GWB has ever been demonized by
the opposition, suddenly adopted the horrible practice of saying unkind
things about the Chief Executive? The nerve!

By the way, back to the sort-of-boating-related topic:

According to the CITGO website that fuel dock you would suggest we
boycott *is* almost certainly owned by an indpendent American small
businessman. The boycott
wouldn't affect CITGO or Chavez much, they would just sell the same oil
elsewhere.
It could, however, cost one of your neighbors his house.


Follows:



Q: Why is there no 800# available for CITGO?
A: Because CITGO locations are independently owned and operated, all
comments, inquiries and disputes are handled at the ownership level.

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Q: Why is there such a price difference between CITGO locations in my
area?
A: Locations are owned and operated by independent businessmen, so they
determine their own prices. By federal law, CITGO cannot control or
influence prices.

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Q: Who is responsible for the location's operation (i.e., pumping
equipment not working, posted price is different than the receipt, no
receipt is available, dirty rest rooms, rude attendant)?
A: CITGO does not own or operate any of its branded locations. The
owner and operator of that specific location is responsible for its
operation and employees.

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"Chuck Gould" wrote in message
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JimH wrote:

Interesting to read Rangel's and Pelosi's statements to Chavez
yesterday......a day late and an obvious attempt at damage control as
they
know they (the libs) created the climate that paved the way for such
outlandish remarks from Chavez at the UN. Chavez probably thought that
since they have done it for the past several years it is OK for him to do
the same.

Yeah, really. Thank heavens that no Americans ever said anything
negative about previous presidents. Why do you suppose that a country
like the US, where no president prior to GWB has ever been demonized by
the opposition, suddenly adopted the horrible practice of saying unkind
things about the Chief Executive? The nerve!

By the way, back to the sort-of-boating-related topic:

According to the CITGO website that fuel dock you would suggest we
boycott *is* almost certainly owned by an indpendent American small
businessman. The boycott
wouldn't affect CITGO or Chavez much, they would just sell the same oil
elsewhere.
It could, however, cost one of your neighbors his house.


Follows:



Q: Why is there no 800# available for CITGO?
A: Because CITGO locations are independently owned and operated, all
comments, inquiries and disputes are handled at the ownership level.

to top

Q: Why is there such a price difference between CITGO locations in my
area?
A: Locations are owned and operated by independent businessmen, so they
determine their own prices. By federal law, CITGO cannot control or
influence prices.

to top

Q: Who is responsible for the location's operation (i.e., pumping
equipment not working, posted price is different than the receipt, no
receipt is available, dirty rest rooms, rude attendant)?
A: CITGO does not own or operate any of its branded locations. The
owner and operator of that specific location is responsible for its
operation and employees.



Why do you choose to defend Chavez?

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Chuck Gould wrote:
The idea to boycott Citgo is a silly as the one making the rounds about
not buying Gas on one day. The make people feel good, but have no
impact on Citgo, and as you highlighted can have a major impact on
American small businessmen.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/gasoline/citgo.asp

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Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
Chuck Gould wrote:
The idea to boycott Citgo is a silly as the one making the rounds about
not buying Gas on one day. The make people feel good, but have no
impact on Citgo, and as you highlighted can have a major impact on
American small businessmen.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/gasoline/citgo.asp

Not buying gas at Citgo (not for only one day but a total boycott) has
not impact on them and the profits going into Chavez's pockets?

ROTF!!

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"JimH" wrote in message
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Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
Chuck Gould wrote:
The idea to boycott Citgo is a silly as the one making the rounds about
not buying Gas on one day. The make people feel good, but have no
impact on Citgo, and as you highlighted can have a major impact on
American small businessmen.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/gasoline/citgo.asp

Not buying gas at Citgo (not for only one day but a total boycott) has
no impact on them and the profits going into Chavez's pockets?

ROTF!!