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Not OT as there are Citgo gas stations at marinas across the US.
With every dollar you spend at a Citgo station (owned by Hugo Chavez) you put money towards the weapons he purchases with an aim to kill you, your family and your friends in the United States. Those dollars will eventually buy the nuclear missiles he will station on Cuba. Doubt me? Just wait. Once Fidel passes away we will see the Cuban missile crisis relived, this time more volatile and lead by Hugo Chavez. |
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JimH wrote:
Not OT as there are Citgo gas stations at marinas across the US. With every dollar you spend at a Citgo station (owned by Hugo Chavez) you put money towards the weapons he purchases with an aim to kill you, your family and your friends in the United States. Those dollars will eventually buy the nuclear missiles he will station on Cuba. Doubt me? Just wait. Once Fidel passes away we will see the Cuban missile crisis relived, this time more volatile and lead by Hugo Chavez. A Venezuelan company is a minority owner in Citgo. Less than 10% I think. While Chavez IS a huge ass, he doesn't seem to be that minority owner. |
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JimH wrote: Not OT as there are Citgo gas stations at marinas across the US. With every dollar you spend at a Citgo station (owned by Hugo Chavez) you put money towards the weapons he purchases with an aim to kill you, your family and your friends in the United States. Those dollars will eventually buy the nuclear missiles he will station on Cuba. Doubt me? Just wait. Once Fidel passes away we will see the Cuban missile crisis relived, this time more volatile and lead by Hugo Chavez. Troll. Response not OT as trolls live under bridges, bridges go over rivers, and there might be a boat on the river. :-) |
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"Chuck Gould" wrote in message ps.com... JimH wrote: Not OT as there are Citgo gas stations at marinas across the US. With every dollar you spend at a Citgo station (owned by Hugo Chavez) you put money towards the weapons he purchases with an aim to kill you, your family and your friends in the United States. Those dollars will eventually buy the nuclear missiles he will station on Cuba. Doubt me? Just wait. Once Fidel passes away we will see the Cuban missile crisis relived, this time more volatile and lead by Hugo Chavez. Troll. Response not OT as trolls live under bridges, bridges go over rivers, and there might be a boat on the river. :-) Why is this a troll Chuck? How is it not related to the gas you choose to purchase at your marina, which may or may not be a Citgo station? The post is indeed on topic. So do you endorse the purchase of gasoline from Citgo stations? |
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" JimH" not telling you @ pffftt.com wrote in message . .. "Chuck Gould" wrote in message ps.com... JimH wrote: Not OT as there are Citgo gas stations at marinas across the US. With every dollar you spend at a Citgo station (owned by Hugo Chavez) you put money towards the weapons he purchases with an aim to kill you, your family and your friends in the United States. Those dollars will eventually buy the nuclear missiles he will station on Cuba. Doubt me? Just wait. Once Fidel passes away we will see the Cuban missile crisis relived, this time more volatile and lead by Hugo Chavez. Troll. Response not OT as trolls live under bridges, bridges go over rivers, and there might be a boat on the river. :-) Why is this a troll Chuck? How is it not related to the gas you choose to purchase at your marina, which may or may not be a Citgo station? The post is indeed on topic. So do you endorse the purchase of gasoline from Citgo stations? Oops, almost forgot.................for Richard............ ;-) |
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"Dan Krueger" wrote in message k.net... JimH wrote: Not OT as there are Citgo gas stations at marinas across the US. With every dollar you spend at a Citgo station (owned by Hugo Chavez) you put money towards the weapons he purchases with an aim to kill you, your family and your friends in the United States. Those dollars will eventually buy the nuclear missiles he will station on Cuba. Doubt me? Just wait. Once Fidel passes away we will see the Cuban missile crisis relived, this time more volatile and lead by Hugo Chavez. A Venezuelan company is a minority owner in Citgo. Less than 10% I think. While Chavez IS a huge ass, he doesn't seem to be that minority owner. Citgo is a wholly owned subsidiary of Petróleos de Venezuela, Venezuela's state owned petroleium industry. A former US company, it is headquartered in the US. It is *not* "owned" by Hugo Chavez. Eisboch |
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"Dan Krueger" wrote in message k.net... JimH wrote: Not OT as there are Citgo gas stations at marinas across the US. With every dollar you spend at a Citgo station (owned by Hugo Chavez) you put money towards the weapons he purchases with an aim to kill you, your family and your friends in the United States. Those dollars will eventually buy the nuclear missiles he will station on Cuba. Doubt me? Just wait. Once Fidel passes away we will see the Cuban missile crisis relived, this time more volatile and lead by Hugo Chavez. A Venezuelan company is a minority owner in Citgo. Less than 10% I think. While Chavez IS a huge ass, he doesn't seem to be that minority owner. My bad........Petróleos de Venezuela, S.A. (PDVSA) is the official owner of Citgo. That company is a Venezuelan state owned (cna you say Chavez?) petroleum company. If Chavez did not have ownership of the company how can he promise reduced fuel oil prices to target American markets? For Richard.............;-) |
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" JimH" not telling you @ pffftt.com wrote in message . .. "Dan Krueger" wrote in message k.net... JimH wrote: Not OT as there are Citgo gas stations at marinas across the US. With every dollar you spend at a Citgo station (owned by Hugo Chavez) you put money towards the weapons he purchases with an aim to kill you, your family and your friends in the United States. Those dollars will eventually buy the nuclear missiles he will station on Cuba. Doubt me? Just wait. Once Fidel passes away we will see the Cuban missile crisis relived, this time more volatile and lead by Hugo Chavez. A Venezuelan company is a minority owner in Citgo. Less than 10% I think. While Chavez IS a huge ass, he doesn't seem to be that minority owner. My bad........Petróleos de Venezuela, S.A. (PDVSA) is the official owner of Citgo. That company is a Venezuelan state owned (cna you say Chavez?) petroleum company. If Chavez did not have ownership of the company how can he promise reduced fuel oil prices to target American markets? For Richard.............;-) Lie? Oil is a fungible commodity. |
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JimH wrote: Why is this a troll Chuck? How is it not related to the gas you choose to purchase at your marina, which may or may not be a Citgo station? The post is indeed on topic. Because it wasn't really about buying gas at a marina. It was really about your prediction that Hugo Chavez is "out to kill us all with nuclear bombs". So do you endorse the purchase of gasoline from Citgo stations? Of course not. I prefer to send my petro-dollars to the muslim extremists who buy and sell oil through those traditional American oil companies 49% controlled by good ol' boys from Texas and their families, but thanks for asking. If you *were* actually interested in the geo-political ramifications of purchasing fuel at a marina- one thing most experienced boaters would take into account is that unlike driving a car down the freeway with 3-4 filling stations at nearly every exit, a boater often has very few options concerning where he or she will buy fuel. It can be many miles between fuel docks. If you have CITGO gas on your fuel dock and don't want to buy it, it isn't like you can just pull around to the other side of the float and fill up with Shell or Chevron instead. Would I run out of fuel and have to call for a tow rather than buy CITGO at a fuel dock? Heck no. It isn't always as simple as just boycotting a particular station, and even if it were it would be unlikely to change world events much. Weren't just about the same folks now calling for a boycott of CITGO demanding that everybody smash all of their Dixie Chicks CD's a couple of years ago? The DC's seem to be back stronger than ever now, and whatever one might happen to think of GWB he is no better or worse president as a result of Natalie's on-stage insult *or* the boycott by furious GWB fans. But here's a practical suggestion for you. I would suspect that, unlike roadside filling stations, CITGO probably doesn't own very many of the fuel docks. It would be more likely that the fuel docks are privately owned and buy fuel from CITGO wholesale (so part of your money supports an independent American small businessperson who probably votes a lot like you do- see how complicated this can get?) If you have a privately owned fuel dock selling CITGO fuel and you *really* feel strongly about the situation, get up a petition signed by yourself and several other people on the dock *requesting* that the fuel dock owner switch to a different brand of fuel. You'll feel vindicated and be lulled into a false sense of patriotism if your fuel dock switches, but in the current global market CITGO can sell all the oil it want to pump and refine, anyway. Changing your fuel buying habits at the marina won't make you any safer from terrorists. There are a few things that could be changed that *would* make us safer, but that gets so far off topic and becomes political so I will simply let it go at that. |
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On Thu, 21 Sep 2006 20:36:06 -0400, "Eisboch"
wrote: Citgo is a wholly owned subsidiary of Petróleos de Venezuela, Venezuela's state owned petroleium industry. A former US company, it is headquartered in the US. It is *not* "owned" by Hugo Chavez. Eisboch There you go, trying to confuse the all knowing with the facts. You'd think they'd appreciate it, wouldn't you? |
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"Chuck Gould" wrote in message oups.com... Weren't just about the same folks now calling for a boycott of CITGO demanding that everybody smash all of their Dixie Chicks CD's a couple of years ago? The DC's seem to be back stronger than ever now Nope. The Dixie Chicks had to cancel numerous concert dates across this country due to poor ticket sales, and replace them with concerts in Canada. , and whatever one might happen to think of GWB he is no better or worse president as a result of Natalie's on-stage insult *or* the boycott by furious GWB fans. But here's a practical suggestion for you. I would suspect that, unlike roadside filling stations, CITGO probably doesn't own very many of the fuel docks. It would be more likely that the fuel docks are privately owned and buy fuel from CITGO wholesale (so part of your money supports an independent American small businessperson who probably votes a lot like you do- see how complicated this can get?) If you have a privately owned fuel dock selling CITGO fuel and you *really* feel strongly about the situation, get up a petition signed by yourself and several other people on the dock *requesting* that the fuel dock owner switch to a different brand of fuel. Why get a petition? He'll get the point more effectively when he sees declining fuel sales. |
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NOYB wrote: "Chuck Gould" wrote in message oups.com... Weren't just about the same folks now calling for a boycott of CITGO demanding that everybody smash all of their Dixie Chicks CD's a couple of years ago? The DC's seem to be back stronger than ever now Nope. The Dixie Chicks had to cancel numerous concert dates across this country due to poor ticket sales, and replace them with concerts in Canada. It's probably a rare day that we can both be reasonably right on the same issue, NOYB. Record sales are through the roof right now for the Chicks. Last album sold over a half million copies in the first week! One of the reasons their concerts didn't sell very well in the south didn't have much to do with the fans. After all, somebody is buying all those records, aren't they? The biggest problems the Chicks had was that certain radio stations, notably those owned by the network that airs Rush Limbaugh (and that can be all of the stations in a lot of smaller communities) refused to allow the promoters to buy advertising time on their radio stations. From an article on the net: The Chicks' new album, entitled Taking the Long Way, was released in stores and online May 22, 2006. The album was produced by Rick Rubin (who had worked with Metallica, Red Hot Chili Peppers, Johnny Cash, Neil Diamond, and the Beastie Boys among others) and was publicized to be more rock-intensive than country-oriented. [5] [6] All 14 tracks were co-written by the three Chicks, alongside various other songwriters. The album contained additional tracks that seemed to indirectly reference what the group called "The Incident", and the group remained outwardly defiant. For instance, in the May 29 issue of Time, Maguire said, "I'd rather have a smaller following of really cool people who get it, who will grow with us as we grow and are fans for life, than people that have us in their five-disc changer with Reba McEntire and Toby Keith. We don't want those kinds of fans. They limit what you can do." Maines also retracted her earlier apology to Bush, stating, "I apologized for disrespecting the office of the President, but I don't feel that way anymore. I don't feel he is owed any respect whatsoever." [7] Despite minimal airplay, Taking the Long Way debuted at number one on both the U.S. pop albums chart and the U.S. country albums chart, selling 526,000 copies in the first week (the year's second-best such total for any country act) and making it a gold record within its first week. The Chicks became the first female group in chart history to have three albums debut at #1.[8] The group's Accidents & Accusations Tour began in July 2006. Ticket sales were strong in Canada, decent in some Northeastern markets, but notably weak in other areas. A number of shows were cancelled due to poor sales, and in Houston, Texas, tickets never even went on sale when local radio stations refused to accept advertising for the event [9]. In August, a re-routed tour schedule was announced with a greater emphasis on Canadian dates, where Taking the Long Way had gone five-times-platinum. The tour's shows themselves generally refrained from any explicit verbal political comments, letting the music, especially the central performance of "Not Ready to Make Nice", speak for itself. But here's a practical suggestion for you. I would suspect that, unlike roadside filling stations, CITGO probably doesn't own very many of the fuel docks. It would be more likely that the fuel docks are privately owned and buy fuel from CITGO wholesale (so part of your money supports an independent American small businessperson who probably votes a lot like you do- see how complicated this can get?) If you have a privately owned fuel dock selling CITGO fuel and you *really* feel strongly about the situation, get up a petition signed by yourself and several other people on the dock *requesting* that the fuel dock owner switch to a different brand of fuel. Why get a petition? He'll get the point more effectively when he sees declining fuel sales. No, the point here is that he probably *won't* see any declining fuel sales if (as in most locations) there isn't another fuel dock in the immediate vicinity. If there's no choice people will buy it. Same thing as with these silly "Don't buy any gas for a day" boycotts that pop up from time to time. Ok, so one day is slow.....sales are all the more red hot for three days thereafter because nobody stopped drving, they just timed their fill-up differently. Oil company/ gas station/ fuel dock sells just as much product for the week as always, just on a different day. |
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" JimH" not telling you @ pffftt.com wrote in message
. .. "Chuck Gould" wrote in message ps.com... JimH wrote: Not OT as there are Citgo gas stations at marinas across the US. With every dollar you spend at a Citgo station (owned by Hugo Chavez) you put money towards the weapons he purchases with an aim to kill you, your family and your friends in the United States. Those dollars will eventually buy the nuclear missiles he will station on Cuba. Doubt me? Just wait. Once Fidel passes away we will see the Cuban missile crisis relived, this time more volatile and lead by Hugo Chavez. Troll. Response not OT as trolls live under bridges, bridges go over rivers, and there might be a boat on the river. :-) Why is this a troll Chuck? How is it not related to the gas you choose to purchase at your marina, which may or may not be a Citgo station? The post is indeed on topic. What a ****ing idiot. How many marinas offer multiple brands of gasoline? |
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" JimH" not telling you @ pffftt.com wrote in message
... Not OT as there are Citgo gas stations at marinas across the US. With every dollar you spend at a Citgo station (owned by Hugo Chavez) you put money towards the weapons he purchases with an aim to kill you, your family and your friends in the United States. Those dollars will eventually buy the nuclear missiles he will station on Cuba. Doubt me? Just wait. Once Fidel passes away we will see the Cuban missile crisis relived, this time more volatile and lead by Hugo Chavez. Pattern recognition is obviously NOT one of your skills. At various summit meetings, your president has said inane things without realizing his microphone was on. He slithers up behind the German chancellor* and rubs her shoulders, a stupid thing normally practiced by drunk college boys who are trying to look down the front of a girl's blouse. Certainly you don't believe other world leaders give him a pass for these practices, just because of his title. They don't. Instead, they hang out together and think up things to say which they know will get him all worked up so he'll say even more stupid things. It works on you, too. * http://rawstory.com/news/2006/Bush_m...at_0718.htm l |
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Wayne.B wrote in
: On Thu, 21 Sep 2006 20:36:06 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote: Citgo is a wholly owned subsidiary of Petróleos de Venezuela, Venezuela's state owned petroleium industry. A former US company, it is headquartered in the US. It is *not* "owned" by Hugo Chavez. Eisboch There you go, trying to confuse the all knowing with the facts. You'd think they'd appreciate it, wouldn't you? Why do we ALWAYS try to make oil producers feeding our toys HATE US? -- There's amazing intelligence in the Universe. You can tell because none of them ever called Earth. |
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JimH wrote:
Not OT as there are Citgo gas stations at marinas across the US. With every dollar you spend at a Citgo station (owned by Hugo Chavez) you put money towards the weapons he purchases with an aim to kill you, your family and your friends in the United States. Those dollars will eventually buy the nuclear missiles he will station on Cuba. Doubt me? Just wait. Once Fidel passes away we will see the Cuban missile crisis relived, this time more volatile and lead by Hugo Chavez. I think the mutual animosity between Bush and Chavez has to do with Chavez nationalized their oil industry and Bush tried (and failed) to engineer a military coup against Chavez. When someone tries to stage a coup against a country leader (and a democratically elected leader), that country leader is not going to be friendly to that person. This is unavoidable that Chavez hates Bush so much. When a small country whose only important strategy resource in the country is oil, that small country will try to gain control over that strategy resource in their country to maximize their national interest. Otherwise, that small country would have very little bargaining power as comparing to gaint mult-national companies (that can be as powerful as the small country). Therefore, this is probably unavoidable that Chavez wanted to nationalize their oil industry. Bush, being friendly to big oil firms in US, of course does all kind of things to hurt Chavez. I think Bush should start believing what he has preached (democracy and all these) and accepts that Chavez is a democratically elected leader that represents the will of their people, and start talking to him and repairing the damaged relationship between two countries. And Chavez should get out from the "garrison state" mentality and stop wasting oil money to buy friends. Meanwhile, I will continue getting oil from Citgo or the like as long as the price is right. Jay Chan |
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JimH wrote:
Not OT as there are Citgo gas stations at marinas across the US. With every dollar you spend at a Citgo station (owned by Hugo Chavez) you put money towards the weapons he purchases with an aim to kill you, your family and your friends in the United States. Those dollars will eventually buy the nuclear missiles he will station on Cuba. Doubt me? Just wait. Once Fidel passes away we will see the Cuban missile crisis relived, this time more volatile and lead by Hugo Chavez. So, you want to boycott an oil company that tried and did more for the U.S. when we were running low on crude? http://www.usatoday.com/money/indust...ver-usat_x.htm |
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"Chuck Gould" wrote in message ps.com... NOYB wrote: "Chuck Gould" wrote in message oups.com... Weren't just about the same folks now calling for a boycott of CITGO demanding that everybody smash all of their Dixie Chicks CD's a couple of years ago? The DC's seem to be back stronger than ever now Nope. The Dixie Chicks had to cancel numerous concert dates across this country due to poor ticket sales, and replace them with concerts in Canada. It's probably a rare day that we can both be reasonably right on the same issue, NOYB. Record sales are through the roof right now for the Chicks. Thanks to the international market. Last album sold over a half million copies in the first week! One of the reasons their concerts didn't sell very well in the south didn't have much to do with the fans. Sure it did. It had *alot* to do with the insults they hurled at Bush, and the insults they hurled at country fans in general (remember the spat with Reba McIntyre?) After all, somebody is buying all those records, aren't they? Yup. Canadians, Australians, and the Brits. ? The biggest problems the Chicks had was that certain radio stations, notably those owned by the network that airs Rush Limbaugh (and that can be all of the stations in a lot of smaller communities) refused to allow the promoters to buy advertising time on their radio stations. The biggest problem the Chicks had was their mouths. From an article on the net: I'm not interested in what some blogger decided to write on the readily editable Wikipedia. But here's a practical suggestion for you. I would suspect that, unlike roadside filling stations, CITGO probably doesn't own very many of the fuel docks. It would be more likely that the fuel docks are privately owned and buy fuel from CITGO wholesale (so part of your money supports an independent American small businessperson who probably votes a lot like you do- see how complicated this can get?) If you have a privately owned fuel dock selling CITGO fuel and you *really* feel strongly about the situation, get up a petition signed by yourself and several other people on the dock *requesting* that the fuel dock owner switch to a different brand of fuel. Why get a petition? He'll get the point more effectively when he sees declining fuel sales. No, the point here is that he probably *won't* see any declining fuel sales if (as in most locations) there isn't another fuel dock in the immediate vicinity. You're discounting the fact that people can turn to mobile fueling services. |
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"NOYB" wrote in message link.net... "Chuck Gould" wrote in message ps.com... NOYB wrote: "Chuck Gould" wrote in message oups.com... Weren't just about the same folks now calling for a boycott of CITGO demanding that everybody smash all of their Dixie Chicks CD's a couple of years ago? The DC's seem to be back stronger than ever now Nope. The Dixie Chicks had to cancel numerous concert dates across this country due to poor ticket sales, and replace them with concerts in Canada. It's probably a rare day that we can both be reasonably right on the same issue, NOYB. Record sales are through the roof right now for the Chicks. Thanks to the international market. Last album sold over a half million copies in the first week! One of the reasons their concerts didn't sell very well in the south didn't have much to do with the fans. Sure it did. It had *alot* to do with the insults they hurled at Bush, and the insults they hurled at country fans in general (remember the spat with Reba McIntyre?) After all, somebody is buying all those records, aren't they? Yup. Canadians, Australians, and the Brits. ? The biggest problems the Chicks had was that certain radio stations, notably those owned by the network that airs Rush Limbaugh (and that can be all of the stations in a lot of smaller communities) refused to allow the promoters to buy advertising time on their radio stations. The biggest problem the Chicks had was their mouths. From an article on the net: I'm not interested in what some blogger decided to write on the readily editable Wikipedia. But here's a practical suggestion for you. I would suspect that, unlike roadside filling stations, CITGO probably doesn't own very many of the fuel docks. It would be more likely that the fuel docks are privately owned and buy fuel from CITGO wholesale (so part of your money supports an independent American small businessperson who probably votes a lot like you do- see how complicated this can get?) If you have a privately owned fuel dock selling CITGO fuel and you *really* feel strongly about the situation, get up a petition signed by yourself and several other people on the dock *requesting* that the fuel dock owner switch to a different brand of fuel. Why get a petition? He'll get the point more effectively when he sees declining fuel sales. No, the point here is that he probably *won't* see any declining fuel sales if (as in most locations) there isn't another fuel dock in the immediate vicinity. You're discounting the fact that people can turn to mobile fueling services. Interesting to read Rangel's and Pelosi's statements to Chavez yesterday......a day late and an obvious attempt at damage control as they know they (the libs) created the climate that paved the way for such outlandish remarks from Chavez at the UN. Chavez probably thought that since they have done it for the past several years it is OK for him to do the same. |
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Harry Krause wrote: On 9/22/2006 5:04 PM, NOYB wrote: "Chuck Gould" wrote in message ps.com... NOYB wrote: "Chuck Gould" wrote in message oups.com... Weren't just about the same folks now calling for a boycott of CITGO demanding that everybody smash all of their Dixie Chicks CD's a couple of years ago? The DC's seem to be back stronger than ever now Nope. The Dixie Chicks had to cancel numerous concert dates across this country due to poor ticket sales, and replace them with concerts in Canada. It's probably a rare day that we can both be reasonably right on the same issue, NOYB. Record sales are through the roof right now for the Chicks. Thanks to the international market. Last album sold over a half million copies in the first week! One of the reasons their concerts didn't sell very well in the south didn't have much to do with the fans. Sure it did. It had *alot* to do with the insults they hurled at Bush, and the insults they hurled at country fans in general (remember the spat with Reba McIntyre?) After all, somebody is buying all those records, aren't they? Yup. Canadians, Australians, and the Brits. We have all their CDs, including the latest. We each have them on our iPODs, too. Not only do we like them and their music, but we feel it is our patriotic duty to support them and their music against President Devil and his destruction of the Constitution and the Republic. What *is* that smell? Smells like...sulfur. :} It's the same old right wing bull**** we've been force fed since the idiot took office. If you dare say anything negative about Bush, his henchmen, Republicans, etc. you are un-Amurican, unpatriotic, etc. When listening to Hannity's screed the other day, just to see what he had to say, it was absolutely hilarious. He went on and on about how ANYONE dare say something negative about ANY president was just awful, blah blah blah, it shouldn't matter what political affiliation, you should always respect your president, blah, blah. He should listen to tapes of himself blasting Clinton, then. But, in typical right wing fashion, it's only applicable when a right winger is in office!! |
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NOYB wrote: After all, somebody is buying all those records, aren't they? Yup. Canadians, Australians, and the Brits. A lot of them must be flying to Texas to do so. 20,000 of those 520,000 copies were sold in Houston alone. You're discounting the fact that people can turn to mobile fueling services. And in that case have *no idea* what brand of fuel they're getting. Furthermore, a lot of marinas associated with fuel docks aren't going to let a competing fuel sales vehicle pull up and start pumping. There are environmental concerns to consider, as well as the fact that the marina is getting a rake-off from the fuel dock and wouldn't get one from some guy in stove oil truck. |
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wrote in message oups.com... JimH wrote: Not OT as there are Citgo gas stations at marinas across the US. With every dollar you spend at a Citgo station (owned by Hugo Chavez) you put money towards the weapons he purchases with an aim to kill you, your family and your friends in the United States. Those dollars will eventually buy the nuclear missiles he will station on Cuba. Doubt me? Just wait. Once Fidel passes away we will see the Cuban missile crisis relived, this time more volatile and lead by Hugo Chavez. I think the mutual animosity between Bush and Chavez has to do with Chavez nationalized their oil industry and Bush tried (and failed) to engineer a military coup against Chavez. When someone tries to stage a coup against a country leader (and a democratically elected leader), that country leader is not going to be friendly to that person. This is unavoidable that Chavez hates Bush so much. When a small country whose only important strategy resource in the country is oil, that small country will try to gain control over that strategy resource in their country to maximize their national interest. Otherwise, that small country would have very little bargaining power as comparing to gaint mult-national companies (that can be as powerful as the small country). Therefore, this is probably unavoidable that Chavez wanted to nationalize their oil industry. Bush, being friendly to big oil firms in US, of course does all kind of things to hurt Chavez. I think Bush should start believing what he has preached (democracy and all these) and accepts that Chavez is a democratically elected leader that represents the will of their people, and start talking to him and repairing the damaged relationship between two countries. And Chavez should get out from the "garrison state" mentality and stop wasting oil money to buy friends. Meanwhile, I will continue getting oil from Citgo or the like as long as the price is right. Jay Chan Good for you! And you are the same guy who wants to dump the human waste collected in 5 gallon buckets on your boat into your garbage cans. You certainly maintain some high standards and care about the future of our children Jay! |
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"basskisser" wrote in message oups.com... JimH wrote: Not OT as there are Citgo gas stations at marinas across the US. With every dollar you spend at a Citgo station (owned by Hugo Chavez) you put money towards the weapons he purchases with an aim to kill you, your family and your friends in the United States. Those dollars will eventually buy the nuclear missiles he will station on Cuba. Doubt me? Just wait. Once Fidel passes away we will see the Cuban missile crisis relived, this time more volatile and lead by Hugo Chavez. So, you want to boycott an oil company that tried and did more for the U.S. when we were running low on crude? http://www.usatoday.com/money/indust...ver-usat_x.htm Dumbass. You just proved my point. |
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JimH wrote: Interesting to read Rangel's and Pelosi's statements to Chavez yesterday......a day late and an obvious attempt at damage control as they know they (the libs) created the climate that paved the way for such outlandish remarks from Chavez at the UN. Chavez probably thought that since they have done it for the past several years it is OK for him to do the same. Yeah, really. Thank heavens that no Americans ever said anything negative about previous presidents. Why do you suppose that a country like the US, where no president prior to GWB has ever been demonized by the opposition, suddenly adopted the horrible practice of saying unkind things about the Chief Executive? The nerve! By the way, back to the sort-of-boating-related topic: According to the CITGO website that fuel dock you would suggest we boycott *is* almost certainly owned by an indpendent American small businessman. The boycott wouldn't affect CITGO or Chavez much, they would just sell the same oil elsewhere. It could, however, cost one of your neighbors his house. Follows: Q: Why is there no 800# available for CITGO? A: Because CITGO locations are independently owned and operated, all comments, inquiries and disputes are handled at the ownership level. to top Q: Why is there such a price difference between CITGO locations in my area? A: Locations are owned and operated by independent businessmen, so they determine their own prices. By federal law, CITGO cannot control or influence prices. to top Q: Who is responsible for the location's operation (i.e., pumping equipment not working, posted price is different than the receipt, no receipt is available, dirty rest rooms, rude attendant)? A: CITGO does not own or operate any of its branded locations. The owner and operator of that specific location is responsible for its operation and employees. |
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"Chuck Gould" wrote in message oups.com... JimH wrote: Interesting to read Rangel's and Pelosi's statements to Chavez yesterday......a day late and an obvious attempt at damage control as they know they (the libs) created the climate that paved the way for such outlandish remarks from Chavez at the UN. Chavez probably thought that since they have done it for the past several years it is OK for him to do the same. Yeah, really. Thank heavens that no Americans ever said anything negative about previous presidents. Why do you suppose that a country like the US, where no president prior to GWB has ever been demonized by the opposition, suddenly adopted the horrible practice of saying unkind things about the Chief Executive? The nerve! By the way, back to the sort-of-boating-related topic: According to the CITGO website that fuel dock you would suggest we boycott *is* almost certainly owned by an indpendent American small businessman. The boycott wouldn't affect CITGO or Chavez much, they would just sell the same oil elsewhere. It could, however, cost one of your neighbors his house. Follows: Q: Why is there no 800# available for CITGO? A: Because CITGO locations are independently owned and operated, all comments, inquiries and disputes are handled at the ownership level. to top Q: Why is there such a price difference between CITGO locations in my area? A: Locations are owned and operated by independent businessmen, so they determine their own prices. By federal law, CITGO cannot control or influence prices. to top Q: Who is responsible for the location's operation (i.e., pumping equipment not working, posted price is different than the receipt, no receipt is available, dirty rest rooms, rude attendant)? A: CITGO does not own or operate any of its branded locations. The owner and operator of that specific location is responsible for its operation and employees. Why do you choose to defend Chavez? |
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Chuck Gould wrote:
The idea to boycott Citgo is a silly as the one making the rounds about not buying Gas on one day. The make people feel good, but have no impact on Citgo, and as you highlighted can have a major impact on American small businessmen. http://www.snopes.com/politics/gasoline/citgo.asp |
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Reginald P. Smithers III wrote: Chuck Gould wrote: The idea to boycott Citgo is a silly as the one making the rounds about not buying Gas on one day. The make people feel good, but have no impact on Citgo, and as you highlighted can have a major impact on American small businessmen. http://www.snopes.com/politics/gasoline/citgo.asp Not buying gas at Citgo (not for only one day but a total boycott) has not impact on them and the profits going into Chavez's pockets? ROTF!! |
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"JimH" wrote in message ups.com... Reginald P. Smithers III wrote: Chuck Gould wrote: The idea to boycott Citgo is a silly as the one making the rounds about not buying Gas on one day. The make people feel good, but have no impact on Citgo, and as you highlighted can have a major impact on American small businessmen. http://www.snopes.com/politics/gasoline/citgo.asp Not buying gas at Citgo (not for only one day but a total boycott) has no impact on them and the profits going into Chavez's pockets? ROTF!! |
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"Chuck Gould" wrote in message oups.com... Just a thought; although you may have an opinion on almost every subject, that doesn't mean you have to express that opinion. You have tried very hard to keep this forum on topic, and even been accused of being the net police, so why are you adding to the noise level? |
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JimH wrote: Why do you choose to defend Chavez? Sorry, JimH, but apparently I'm not bright enough to follow along here. If you'll kindly point out where I "defended Chavez", I'd be happy to share my reasoning with you. My primary interest in this discussion is considering the question of whether or not buyng boat fuel at a fuel dock that sells CITGO will result in Venezuela dropping nuclear bombs on the United States. (see original post in the thread) The point I'm trying to make is that it won't make any difference to Chavez, as he can sell the same oil somewhere else. Worse yet, you can pull up to a fuel dock that says BP or ARCO and wind up filling up with CITGO product anyway. Happens all the time, as others have pointed out in this thread. If the United States hopes to be insulated for terrorists from Venezuela, there are a few steps that could be taken. But none of them have anything to do with the purchase of boat fuel and therefore aren't remotely appropriate for this group. |
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"Chuck Gould" wrote in message ups.com... JimH wrote: Why do you choose to defend Chavez? Sorry, JimH, but apparently I'm not bright enough to follow along here. If you say so. |
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"Chuck Gould" wrote in message oups.com... JimH wrote: Interesting to read Rangel's and Pelosi's statements to Chavez yesterday......a day late and an obvious attempt at damage control as they know they (the libs) created the climate that paved the way for such outlandish remarks from Chavez at the UN. Chavez probably thought that since they have done it for the past several years it is OK for him to do the same. Yeah, really. Thank heavens that no Americans ever said anything negative about previous presidents. Why do you suppose that a country like the US, where no president prior to GWB has ever been demonized by the opposition, suddenly adopted the horrible practice of saying unkind things about the Chief Executive? The nerve! By the way, back to the sort-of-boating-related topic: According to the CITGO website that fuel dock you would suggest we boycott *is* almost certainly owned by an indpendent American small businessman. The boycott wouldn't affect CITGO or Chavez much, they would just sell the same oil elsewhere. It could, however, cost one of your neighbors his house. Follows: Q: Why is there no 800# available for CITGO? A: Because CITGO locations are independently owned and operated, all comments, inquiries and disputes are handled at the ownership level. to top Q: Why is there such a price difference between CITGO locations in my area? A: Locations are owned and operated by independent businessmen, so they determine their own prices. By federal law, CITGO cannot control or influence prices. to top Q: Who is responsible for the location's operation (i.e., pumping equipment not working, posted price is different than the receipt, no receipt is available, dirty rest rooms, rude attendant)? A: CITGO does not own or operate any of its branded locations. The owner and operator of that specific location is responsible for its operation and employees. I will remember that argument when the topic of Wal-Mart comes up next. ;-) |
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JimH wrote: I will remember that argument when the topic of Wal-Mart comes up next. ;-) Are they selling boats at WalMart now? |
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"Chuck Gould" wrote in message oups.com... JimH wrote: I will remember that argument when the topic of Wal-Mart comes up next. ;-) Are they selling boats at WalMart now? Yep! http://tinyurl.com/o2zhq |
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JimH wrote: "Chuck Gould" wrote in message ups.com... JimH wrote: Why do you choose to defend Chavez? Sorry, JimH, but apparently I'm not bright enough to follow along here. If you say so. Uh, oh. It's the childish JimH. Next will be the lying, nasty to everyone JimH. Classic bipolar!! |
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" JimH" not telling you @ pffftt.com wrote in message
. .. "Chuck Gould" wrote in message oups.com... JimH wrote: Interesting to read Rangel's and Pelosi's statements to Chavez yesterday......a day late and an obvious attempt at damage control as they know they (the libs) created the climate that paved the way for such outlandish remarks from Chavez at the UN. Chavez probably thought that since they have done it for the past several years it is OK for him to do the same. Yeah, really. Thank heavens that no Americans ever said anything negative about previous presidents. Why do you suppose that a country like the US, where no president prior to GWB has ever been demonized by the opposition, suddenly adopted the horrible practice of saying unkind things about the Chief Executive? The nerve! By the way, back to the sort-of-boating-related topic: According to the CITGO website that fuel dock you would suggest we boycott *is* almost certainly owned by an indpendent American small businessman. The boycott wouldn't affect CITGO or Chavez much, they would just sell the same oil elsewhere. It could, however, cost one of your neighbors his house. Follows: Q: Why is there no 800# available for CITGO? A: Because CITGO locations are independently owned and operated, all comments, inquiries and disputes are handled at the ownership level. to top Q: Why is there such a price difference between CITGO locations in my area? A: Locations are owned and operated by independent businessmen, so they determine their own prices. By federal law, CITGO cannot control or influence prices. to top Q: Who is responsible for the location's operation (i.e., pumping equipment not working, posted price is different than the receipt, no receipt is available, dirty rest rooms, rude attendant)? A: CITGO does not own or operate any of its branded locations. The owner and operator of that specific location is responsible for its operation and employees. Why do you choose to defend Chavez? Chuck presented you with three business FACTS. Did you notice the common aspect shared by all three? |
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" JimH" not telling you @ pffftt.com wrote in message
. .. "Chuck Gould" wrote in message oups.com... JimH wrote: Interesting to read Rangel's and Pelosi's statements to Chavez yesterday......a day late and an obvious attempt at damage control as they know they (the libs) created the climate that paved the way for such outlandish remarks from Chavez at the UN. Chavez probably thought that since they have done it for the past several years it is OK for him to do the same. Yeah, really. Thank heavens that no Americans ever said anything negative about previous presidents. Why do you suppose that a country like the US, where no president prior to GWB has ever been demonized by the opposition, suddenly adopted the horrible practice of saying unkind things about the Chief Executive? The nerve! By the way, back to the sort-of-boating-related topic: According to the CITGO website that fuel dock you would suggest we boycott *is* almost certainly owned by an indpendent American small businessman. The boycott wouldn't affect CITGO or Chavez much, they would just sell the same oil elsewhere. It could, however, cost one of your neighbors his house. Follows: Q: Why is there no 800# available for CITGO? A: Because CITGO locations are independently owned and operated, all comments, inquiries and disputes are handled at the ownership level. to top Q: Why is there such a price difference between CITGO locations in my area? A: Locations are owned and operated by independent businessmen, so they determine their own prices. By federal law, CITGO cannot control or influence prices. to top Q: Who is responsible for the location's operation (i.e., pumping equipment not working, posted price is different than the receipt, no receipt is available, dirty rest rooms, rude attendant)? A: CITGO does not own or operate any of its branded locations. The owner and operator of that specific location is responsible for its operation and employees. I will remember that argument when the topic of Wal-Mart comes up next. ;-) The only common argument I see in Chuck's last 3 paragraphs is that Citgo outlets are INDEPENDENTLY OWNED AND OPERATED. That IN NO WAY resembles Wal Mart's model. |
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basskisser wrote:
JimH wrote: "Chuck Gould" wrote in message roups.com... JimH wrote: Why do you choose to defend Chavez? Sorry, JimH, but apparently I'm not bright enough to follow along here. If you say so. Uh, oh. It's the childish JimH. Next will be the lying, nasty to everyone JimH. Classic bipolar!! Classic obsession. |
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