Bad news for a lot of the beautiful old wooden boats that have been so
carefully preserved in covered moorage up here in the Pacific NW. The
City of Seattle has ordered covered moorage facilities to remove their
roofs or spend $$$$$$$$$$ installing fire prevention equipment and
sprinkler systems. That's not surprising, as we have had a number of
catastrophic fires in covered moorages these past few years. I know of
two marinas that are planning to uncover before the first of the year,
as meeting the fire codes and installing sprinklers is considered
prohibitive.

The worst thing you can do to a wooden boat is expose it to fresh
water, and with our relentless winter rainstorms it won't take long
before a lot of rot gets a foothold in decks and superstructures. Too
bad, it will be the death of a lot of woodies and hasten the end of an
era.

Actually, all those blue plastic tarps ought to blend well with all the
blue sunbrella!
Or all those woodies could move to Pt Townsend. Would fit right in.
On the same thought, the PT wooden boat show starts tomorrow. Great show
for all, wood or not.
G
"Chuck Gould" wrote in message
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Bad news for a lot of the beautiful old wooden boats that have been so
carefully preserved in covered moorage up here in the Pacific NW. The
City of Seattle has ordered covered moorage facilities to remove their
roofs or spend $$$$$$$$$$ installing fire prevention equipment and
sprinkler systems. That's not surprising, as we have had a number of
catastrophic fires in covered moorages these past few years. I know of
two marinas that are planning to uncover before the first of the year,
as meeting the fire codes and installing sprinklers is considered
prohibitive.

The worst thing you can do to a wooden boat is expose it to fresh
water, and with our relentless winter rainstorms it won't take long
before a lot of rot gets a foothold in decks and superstructures. Too
bad, it will be the death of a lot of woodies and hasten the end of an
era.

(Chuck*Gould)wrote
Bad news for a lot of the beautiful old wooden boats that have been so
carefully preserved in covered moorage up here in the Pacific NW. The
City of Seattle has ordered covered moorage facilities to remove their
roofs or spend $$$$$$$$$$ installing fire prevention equipment and
sprinkler systems. That's not surprising, as we have had a number of
catastrophic fires in covered moorages these past few years. I know of
two marinas that are planning to uncover before the first of the year,
as meeting the fire codes and installing sprinklers is considered
prohibitive.
The worst thing you can do to a wooden boat is expose it to fresh water,
and with our relentless winter rainstorms it won't take long before a
lot of rot gets a foothold in decks and superstructures. Too bad, it
will be the death of a lot of woodies and hasten the end of an era.



First I heard. Seattle is pretty much considered the wooden boat capital
of the US. Its also gonna **** off alot of liveaboards.
I think the old code was a firemain down each dock, and with covered
moorage you had to have a fire break every 6 or 8 slips to prevent a
total loss. It worked fairly well too, Except some owner/managers saw it
as an extra slip to rent. Thus eliminating the fire break. I guess
sometimes being too greedy cost more in the end. UD

UglyDan®©™ wrote:
(Chuck Gould)wrote
Bad news for a lot of the beautiful old wooden boats that have been so
carefully preserved in covered moorage up here in the Pacific NW. The
City of Seattle has ordered covered moorage facilities to remove their
roofs or spend $$$$$$$$$$ installing fire prevention equipment and
sprinkler systems. That's not surprising, as we have had a number of
catastrophic fires in covered moorages these past few years. I know of
two marinas that are planning to uncover before the first of the year,
as meeting the fire codes and installing sprinklers is considered
prohibitive.
The worst thing you can do to a wooden boat is expose it to fresh water,
and with our relentless winter rainstorms it won't take long before a
lot of rot gets a foothold in decks and superstructures. Too bad, it
will be the death of a lot of woodies and hasten the end of an era.



First I heard. Seattle is pretty much considered the wooden boat capital
of the US. Its also gonna **** off alot of liveaboards.
I think the old code was a firemain down each dock, and with covered
moorage you had to have a fire break every 6 or 8 slips to prevent a
total loss. It worked fairly well too, Except some owner/managers saw it
as an extra slip to rent. Thus eliminating the fire break. I guess
sometimes being too greedy cost more in the end. UD

I was chatting with Ray Rairdon yesterday, and he told me that the
marinas adjacent to his office are going topless almost right away. He
picked up a couple of listings from people who don't want to watch
their boats deteriorate in the weather.

I just moved back inside the locks, under cover at Salmon Bay Marina,
to better preserve the refinish work done last spring. Management there
seems inclined to do the work required (a few hundred thousand) and
adjust slip rents accordingly.

The loss of much of the covered moorage will be a shame- but from a
strictly business perspective it isn't difficult to empathize with the
property owners. They will have no trouble renting the open slips-
probably for as much as they have been getting for covered, and won't
have to spend the BIGBUCKS to come up to fire code.

The latest fire codes not only require fire breaks, but sprinklers,
vents, and "fire curtains" as well.

Figures they would wait till winter, and the crappy weather arrive to
enforce the new code. Typical. UD

"Chuck Gould" wrote in message
oups.com...
Bad news for a lot of the beautiful old wooden boats that have been so
carefully preserved in covered moorage up here in the Pacific NW. The
City of Seattle has ordered covered moorage facilities to remove their
roofs or spend $$$$$$$$$$ installing fire prevention equipment and
sprinkler systems. That's not surprising, as we have had a number of
catastrophic fires in covered moorages these past few years. I know of
two marinas that are planning to uncover before the first of the year,
as meeting the fire codes and installing sprinklers is considered
prohibitive.

The worst thing you can do to a wooden boat is expose it to fresh
water, and with our relentless winter rainstorms it won't take long
before a lot of rot gets a foothold in decks and superstructures. Too
bad, it will be the death of a lot of woodies and hasten the end of an
era.



Why can't they cover those boats with a full mooring cover to protect them?
If not, why not protect the exposed wood with varnish?

There are hundreds (thousands?) of wood boats on the Great Lakes not
protected by covered moorage, including those in near pristine condition.

I see no problem with your new ordinance.

BTW: What is "fire prevention equipment"? :-)

I don't see why they (the boats) can't be covered with modern breathable
weatherproof fabric covers. I have kept my MaXum under a tarp on the
trailer for 16 years. The gelcoat is still in brand new condition and
finish. If they can afford to build and maintain one of those beauties,
they can certainly afford a custom tailored cover and some anti mildew
gear for the wet months. 'Swhat I do....
JR

Chuck Gould wrote:
Bad news for a lot of the beautiful old wooden boats that have been so
carefully preserved in covered moorage up here in the Pacific NW. The
City of Seattle has ordered covered moorage facilities to remove their
roofs or spend $$$$$$$$$$ installing fire prevention equipment and
sprinkler systems. That's not surprising, as we have had a number of
catastrophic fires in covered moorages these past few years. I know of
two marinas that are planning to uncover before the first of the year,
as meeting the fire codes and installing sprinklers is considered
prohibitive.

The worst thing you can do to a wooden boat is expose it to fresh
water, and with our relentless winter rainstorms it won't take long
before a lot of rot gets a foothold in decks and superstructures. Too
bad, it will be the death of a lot of woodies and hasten the end of an
era.



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JimH wrote:
"Chuck Gould" wrote in message
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Bad news for a lot of the beautiful old wooden boats that have been so
carefully preserved in covered moorage up here in the Pacific NW. The
City of Seattle has ordered covered moorage facilities to remove their
roofs or spend $$$$$$$$$$ installing fire prevention equipment and
sprinkler systems. That's not surprising, as we have had a number of
catastrophic fires in covered moorages these past few years. I know of
two marinas that are planning to uncover before the first of the year,
as meeting the fire codes and installing sprinklers is considered
prohibitive.

The worst thing you can do to a wooden boat is expose it to fresh
water, and with our relentless winter rainstorms it won't take long
before a lot of rot gets a foothold in decks and superstructures. Too
bad, it will be the death of a lot of woodies and hasten the end of an
era.



Why can't they cover those boats with a full mooring cover to protect them?
If not, why not protect the exposed wood with varnish?

There are hundreds (thousands?) of wood boats on the Great Lakes not
protected by covered moorage, including those in near pristine condition.

I see no problem with your new ordinance.

BTW: What is "fire prevention equipment"? :-)

Equipment that prevents fires. Check out Factory Mutual Global.

"Chuck Gould" wrote in message
oups.com...
Too
bad, it will be the death of a lot of woodies and hasten the end of an
era.


Ya it must be terrible to get old and have your woodie die.......

I talked to a friend who has covered moorage, and he said the owner is
going to take the roof off too, I don't think its $$ wise to do it.
Theres alot more to it than just peeling the tin off, You can't just
leave the structure up too, All the supports and beams would have to
come down as well as the electrical, then you have to cut and cap the
pilings. Thats not cheap either.
I think for the $$ spent they should band together and fight it, and
maybe get grandfathered in, or just bite the bullet and comply.
BTW Chuck if you see this post i was wondering what paint you used on
the hull of Indulgence. I have a friend with a body shop, and was
thinking of having him paint my old Correct Craft. UD