"Peggie Hall" wrote in message
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Even School Zones for kids only require that you slow down to 15 and
there
are lot more cars on the road than boats in the water.

Cars have brakes...boats don't. Cars can stop without throwing their
transmissions into reverse and then continuing to travel forward until
reverse power overcomes forward momentum. The more forward momentum, the
longer it takes a boat to stop.

Cars don't have exposed propellers either...so if one should knock down
a child at 15 mph, it's not as likely to take off an arm, leg or head as
a boat going the same speed.

Manatee Zones require that you slow to 6mph+/-.

Which is slow enough, provided that you also keep a proper lookout so
you can see anything in the water, for a reverse throttle to stop the
boat pretty close to immediately...faster and the boat will continue to
move forward.

Are manatees more important than kids?

A manatee isn't the only thing you could hit. Learning a little bit
about the dynamics of what makes your boat move and what it takes to
stop it could also save a kid's life...at the very least, it could
prevent damage to your boat.


I know more about it than you and don't need any help.
--
-v-

"bb" wrote in message
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On 18 Aug 2003 15:54:35 GMT, reg (Gfretwell) wrote:


The fact still remains that without the thermal pollution of man these
things
would swim away and most would not come back.

Without the industries that cause thermal pollution there would be
about 6 billion less people also. I think the manatees would agree to
swim in cold water if we would shut down all the thermal pollution
sources.

bb

All that would have to be done is dump the warm water in the ocean or run it
through a cooling tower.

The manatee nuts, excuse me "activists", won't hear of that. They are more
interested in keeping the large volume of dollars rolling in than solving
the problem.
--
-v-

What's wrong with 6 knots?
When we're out sailing, we're thrilled to move at that speed or slightly
better.

-snip... .
Manatee Zones require that you slow to 6mph+/-.

Are manatees more important than kids?

All that would have to be done is dump the warm water in the ocean or run it
through a cooling tower.

The manatee nuts, excuse me "activists", won't hear of that.

It's worse than that. When our electrical plant was refitted to more efficient
boilers they were not producing enough hot water to insure a good winter refuge
for the manatee and the huggers insisted that they bring in auxillary boilers
to heat the water!!
That is a violation of the Endangered Species Act but they do it anyway.
Since they current water is not really that hot it wouldn't be that hard to
cool it in the winter.
When water gets much below 70f these things will swim away. They just forgot
how to migrate because of mans activity. I say fix the "root" offending
activity (heating water) and the rest becomes moot.
To the guy who complained about the loss of jobs, how about the loss of the
boating, dock building and water sport industry?
It is very interesting that the people who worry about the manatee the most
don't live within 100-1000 miles of them and use their boats wherever they
like. Jimmy Buffett didn't start SMC until he moved to Malibu!

"Gfretwell" wrote in message
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All that would have to be done is dump the warm water in the ocean or run
it
through a cooling tower.

The manatee nuts, excuse me "activists", won't hear of that.

It's worse than that. When our electrical plant was refitted to more
efficient
boilers they were not producing enough hot water to insure a good winter
refuge
for the manatee and the huggers insisted that they bring in auxillary
boilers
to heat the water!!
That is a violation of the Endangered Species Act but they do it anyway.
Since they current water is not really that hot it wouldn't be that hard
to
cool it in the winter.
When water gets much below 70f these things will swim away. They just
forgot
how to migrate because of mans activity. I say fix the "root" offending
activity (heating water) and the rest becomes moot.
To the guy who complained about the loss of jobs, how about the loss of
the
boating, dock building and water sport industry?
It is very interesting that the people who worry about the manatee the
most
don't live within 100-1000 miles of them and use their boats wherever they
like. Jimmy Buffett didn't start SMC until he moved to Malibu!


All I can say is dittos. You are right on all counts.
--
-v-

I think we could come up with enough "scientific evidence" to prove that
Manatees were responsible for the big blackout.

Well, the Manatee nuts do it.....

--


Keith
__
I went to a bookstore and asked the saleswoman, "Where's the self-help
section?"
She said if she told me, it would defeat the purpose.
"Gfretwell" wrote in message
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All that would have to be done is dump the warm water in the ocean or run
it
through a cooling tower.

The manatee nuts, excuse me "activists", won't hear of that.

It's worse than that. When our electrical plant was refitted to more
efficient
boilers they were not producing enough hot water to insure a good winter
refuge
for the manatee and the huggers insisted that they bring in auxillary
boilers
to heat the water!!
That is a violation of the Endangered Species Act but they do it anyway.
Since they current water is not really that hot it wouldn't be that hard
to
cool it in the winter.
When water gets much below 70f these things will swim away. They just
forgot
how to migrate because of mans activity. I say fix the "root" offending
activity (heating water) and the rest becomes moot.
To the guy who complained about the loss of jobs, how about the loss of
the
boating, dock building and water sport industry?
It is very interesting that the people who worry about the manatee the
most
don't live within 100-1000 miles of them and use their boats wherever they
like. Jimmy Buffett didn't start SMC until he moved to Malibu!

"basskisser" wrote in message
om...
(Steven Shelikoff) wrote in message
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On Sun, 17 Aug 2003 23:52:44 -0400, "thunder" wrote:

On Mon, 18 Aug 2003 01:51:29 +0000, Capt. Frank Hopkins wrote:

The Sea Cow is not even a native, but comes from the east indies.
Why we lettin some forign critter take over?

The manatee regulations may be to stringent, but the above is pure
BS. The manatee has been indigenous to Florida for over 45 million
years. Florida even has it's own subspecies, Trichechus manatus
latirostris.

Yeah, but 45 million years ago it must have come from somewhere.

Steve

Then, using the same analogy, humans must not be a native species of
earth, correct?

No - humans are actually evolved Ewoks because Darth Vader,
a long, long time ago in a galaxy far, far away f'd up the Ewok
moon, so they stole the remaining pieces of the Death Star and
migrated to this galaxy, had sex with Princess Leia and produced
offspring remarkably like Lucy, the theoretical proto-human found
in Ethiopia - which, at the time the Ewoks settled here, was a lush
tropical rain forest with a zillion foot high cedar trees and a really
cool power relay station for the Kzin who had originally settled
Earth, but devolved into lions, tigers and house cats after a disastrous
war with Puppeteers.

Hey, it could have happened...

Later,

Tom

On 18 Aug 2003 15:54:35 GMT, reg (Gfretwell) wrote:

We don't close the roads because a few dogs chase cars. We train the dogs.

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Right on. We don't close the roads or ban the construction of new
garages (docks) because a few raccoons and deer get hit either. In my
opinion the environmentalists are basically anti-boat, and we mostly
have the jetski hoards and the no-muffler go fasts to thank for that.
And who could blame them? Unfortunately for us, the manatee club and
the EPA see anything that floats and moves through the water as a
boat. The manatees were just a convenient rallying point for fund
raising and political pressure in my opinion.

It boils down to humans or Manatee.. I vote humans

"Florida Keyz" wrote in message
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It boils down to humans or Manatee.. I vote humans

If Manatees are "Sea Cows", can you make them into
hamburgers?