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This morning the phones in the neighborhood where I live were all out.
I didn't even know it, because I have comcast high speed and vonage! I asked the Bellsouth Technician why he was checking the line in front of my house, because I was going to tell him it's dead to my house because I don't have Bellsouth. He said he was checking because some digital device that serves the whole neighborhood went out, and they are trying to restore service!!! |
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On Thu, 24 Aug 2006 11:17:38 -0400, Harry Krause
wrote: basskisser wrote: This morning the phones in the neighborhood where I live were all out. I didn't even know it, because I have comcast high speed and vonage! I asked the Bellsouth Technician why he was checking the line in front of my house, because I was going to tell him it's dead to my house because I don't have Bellsouth. He said he was checking because some digital device that serves the whole neighborhood went out, and they are trying to restore service!!! Wonderful. Our security alarm system sent out a letter recently advising customers NOT to transfer to VOIP unless they leave a wired traditional phone line in place or subscribe to a special, new, expensive cell service. Wanna guess why? The security company says it is working on a VOIP solution but so far, it "is not reliable." If the security company isn't reliable, I'd get a new one. You've identified many reasons why you can't switch to VOIP. That's a shame, and we all feel sorry for you. Maybe your neck of the woods just isn't ready for it yet. Good luck. Oh, how do you like the D200 and the VR lens? -- ****************************************** ***** Hope your day is great! ***** ****************************************** John |
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Harry Krause wrote:
basskisser wrote: This morning the phones in the neighborhood where I live were all out. I didn't even know it, because I have comcast high speed and vonage! I asked the Bellsouth Technician why he was checking the line in front of my house, because I was going to tell him it's dead to my house because I don't have Bellsouth. He said he was checking because some digital device that serves the whole neighborhood went out, and they are trying to restore service!!! Wonderful. Our security alarm system sent out a letter recently advising customers NOT to transfer to VOIP unless they leave a wired traditional phone line in place or subscribe to a special, new, expensive cell service. Wanna guess why? The security company says it is working on a VOIP solution but so far, it "is not reliable." Harry, If your ISP is as unreliable as you have stated, there is no way I would make a change. For some of us, our ISP is just as reliable as MaBell, or more so, but are much more of a consumer oriented company. How often do you lose your ISP connection and for how long? Is this a local problem with the wires running to your home or is it a problem with everyone in your neck of the woods? Comcast has buried all their wires in my area and just never seem to have any problems. MaBell and the Power Company still have their lines above ground so they are at the mercy of falling limbs, lighting, animals,car accidents etc. |
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Harry Krause wrote:
JohnH wrote: On Thu, 24 Aug 2006 11:17:38 -0400, Harry Krause wrote: basskisser wrote: This morning the phones in the neighborhood where I live were all out. I didn't even know it, because I have comcast high speed and vonage! I asked the Bellsouth Technician why he was checking the line in front of my house, because I was going to tell him it's dead to my house because I don't have Bellsouth. He said he was checking because some digital device that serves the whole neighborhood went out, and they are trying to restore service!!! Wonderful. Our security alarm system sent out a letter recently advising customers NOT to transfer to VOIP unless they leave a wired traditional phone line in place or subscribe to a special, new, expensive cell service. Wanna guess why? The security company says it is working on a VOIP solution but so far, it "is not reliable." If the security company isn't reliable, I'd get a new one. You've identified many reasons why you can't switch to VOIP. That's a shame, and we all feel sorry for you. Most of the major home security company connect lines do not work with VOIP, I've since learned. Harry, Save yourself the money on home security. Just keep the sign and forget the service. The cops make responding to a home security call the absolutely lowest priority call because 99.999999% of them are false alarms. By the time the cops show up at at your home the burglar has either killed you both or has removed everything of value and is in the next state. I had a neighbor who left town with a helium balloon in the kitchen, as the balloon lost it's lift whenever the air conditioning came on, the home security system would go off. The outside alarm would stay on until the cops arrived and called into the "home security company". It would take them 2 hrs to arrive. They said it was always false alarms so it was always the last thing they responded to. The sign is as effective as the alarm system. |
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"Harry Krause" wrote in message . .. JohnH wrote: On Thu, 24 Aug 2006 11:17:38 -0400, Harry Krause wrote: basskisser wrote: This morning the phones in the neighborhood where I live were all out. I didn't even know it, because I have comcast high speed and vonage! I asked the Bellsouth Technician why he was checking the line in front of my house, because I was going to tell him it's dead to my house because I don't have Bellsouth. He said he was checking because some digital device that serves the whole neighborhood went out, and they are trying to restore service!!! Wonderful. Our security alarm system sent out a letter recently advising customers NOT to transfer to VOIP unless they leave a wired traditional phone line in place or subscribe to a special, new, expensive cell service. Wanna guess why? The security company says it is working on a VOIP solution but so far, it "is not reliable." If the security company isn't reliable, I'd get a new one. You've identified many reasons why you can't switch to VOIP. That's a shame, and we all feel sorry for you. Most of the major home security company connect lines do not work with VOIP, I've since learned. You are correct. We have a home security system but discontinued with the central station monitoring service a few years ago. The local alarm is loud enough to wake us up, scare a burglar away and/or alert our neighbors that we have a problem. So going with Vonage was not a concern for us. |
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On Thu, 24 Aug 2006 14:35:30 -0400, Harry Krause
wrote: Reginald P. Smithers III wrote: Harry Krause wrote: JohnH wrote: On Thu, 24 Aug 2006 11:17:38 -0400, Harry Krause wrote: basskisser wrote: This morning the phones in the neighborhood where I live were all out. I didn't even know it, because I have comcast high speed and vonage! I asked the Bellsouth Technician why he was checking the line in front of my house, because I was going to tell him it's dead to my house because I don't have Bellsouth. He said he was checking because some digital device that serves the whole neighborhood went out, and they are trying to restore service!!! Wonderful. Our security alarm system sent out a letter recently advising customers NOT to transfer to VOIP unless they leave a wired traditional phone line in place or subscribe to a special, new, expensive cell service. Wanna guess why? The security company says it is working on a VOIP solution but so far, it "is not reliable." If the security company isn't reliable, I'd get a new one. You've identified many reasons why you can't switch to VOIP. That's a shame, and we all feel sorry for you. Most of the major home security company connect lines do not work with VOIP, I've since learned. Harry, Save yourself the money on home security. Just keep the sign and forget the service. The cops make responding to a home security call the absolutely lowest priority call because 99.999999% of them are false alarms. By the time the cops show up at at your home the burglar has either killed you both or has removed everything of value and is in the next state. I have no idea why you keep offering me unsolicited advice. I've told you several times I have no interest in your expertise-less pronouncements. A deputy sheriff lives down the road a bit from me. I assure you, we have fast response here. Unsolicited advice? To NOYB: "That's probably the dumbest non-political post you've ever made. Bet you don't know why, either." I'll bet you'll tell him, whether he solicits your aid or not! Reggie is just trying to help you not make a huge fool of yourself. Where did you get the volcano picture? Same place as the owl picture? -- ****************************************** ***** Hope your day is great! ***** ****************************************** John |
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On Thu, 24 Aug 2006 16:02:04 -0400, Harry Krause
wrote: JohnH wrote: On Thu, 24 Aug 2006 14:35:30 -0400, Harry Krause wrote: Reginald P. Smithers III wrote: Harry Krause wrote: JohnH wrote: On Thu, 24 Aug 2006 11:17:38 -0400, Harry Krause wrote: basskisser wrote: This morning the phones in the neighborhood where I live were all out. I didn't even know it, because I have comcast high speed and vonage! I asked the Bellsouth Technician why he was checking the line in front of my house, because I was going to tell him it's dead to my house because I don't have Bellsouth. He said he was checking because some digital device that serves the whole neighborhood went out, and they are trying to restore service!!! Wonderful. Our security alarm system sent out a letter recently advising customers NOT to transfer to VOIP unless they leave a wired traditional phone line in place or subscribe to a special, new, expensive cell service. Wanna guess why? The security company says it is working on a VOIP solution but so far, it "is not reliable." If the security company isn't reliable, I'd get a new one. You've identified many reasons why you can't switch to VOIP. That's a shame, and we all feel sorry for you. Most of the major home security company connect lines do not work with VOIP, I've since learned. Harry, Save yourself the money on home security. Just keep the sign and forget the service. The cops make responding to a home security call the absolutely lowest priority call because 99.999999% of them are false alarms. By the time the cops show up at at your home the burglar has either killed you both or has removed everything of value and is in the next state. I have no idea why you keep offering me unsolicited advice. I've told you several times I have no interest in your expertise-less pronouncements. A deputy sheriff lives down the road a bit from me. I assure you, we have fast response here. Unsolicited advice? To NOYB: "That's probably the dumbest non-political post you've ever made. Bet you don't know why, either." I'll bet you'll tell him, whether he solicits your aid or not! Reggie is just trying to help you not make a huge fool of yourself. NOYB and I engage in badinage. "Reggie" is an asshole. My opinion of him hasn't changed a bit over the years. He's pretty much clueless about everything. Not so. He's provided you with good, thoughtful advice. You should be thanking him. -- ****************************************** ***** Hope your day is great! ***** ****************************************** John |
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"Harry Krause" wrote in message . .. JohnH wrote: On Thu, 24 Aug 2006 14:35:30 -0400, Harry Krause wrote: Reginald P. Smithers III wrote: Harry Krause wrote: JohnH wrote: On Thu, 24 Aug 2006 11:17:38 -0400, Harry Krause wrote: basskisser wrote: This morning the phones in the neighborhood where I live were all out. I didn't even know it, because I have comcast high speed and vonage! I asked the Bellsouth Technician why he was checking the line in front of my house, because I was going to tell him it's dead to my house because I don't have Bellsouth. He said he was checking because some digital device that serves the whole neighborhood went out, and they are trying to restore service!!! Wonderful. Our security alarm system sent out a letter recently advising customers NOT to transfer to VOIP unless they leave a wired traditional phone line in place or subscribe to a special, new, expensive cell service. Wanna guess why? The security company says it is working on a VOIP solution but so far, it "is not reliable." If the security company isn't reliable, I'd get a new one. You've identified many reasons why you can't switch to VOIP. That's a shame, and we all feel sorry for you. Most of the major home security company connect lines do not work with VOIP, I've since learned. Harry, Save yourself the money on home security. Just keep the sign and forget the service. The cops make responding to a home security call the absolutely lowest priority call because 99.999999% of them are false alarms. By the time the cops show up at at your home the burglar has either killed you both or has removed everything of value and is in the next state. I have no idea why you keep offering me unsolicited advice. I've told you several times I have no interest in your expertise-less pronouncements. A deputy sheriff lives down the road a bit from me. I assure you, we have fast response here. Unsolicited advice? To NOYB: "That's probably the dumbest non-political post you've ever made. Bet you don't know why, either." I'll bet you'll tell him, whether he solicits your aid or not! Reggie is just trying to help you not make a huge fool of yourself. NOYB and I engage in badinage. "Reggie" is an asshole. My opinion of him hasn't changed a bit over the years. He's pretty much clueless about everything. And I also see my that my buddy with the white furry ladies hat is back stirring the pot again. |
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On Thu, 24 Aug 2006 16:18:11 -0400, Harry Krause
wrote: JohnH wrote: On Thu, 24 Aug 2006 16:02:04 -0400, Harry Krause wrote: JohnH wrote: On Thu, 24 Aug 2006 14:35:30 -0400, Harry Krause wrote: Reginald P. Smithers III wrote: Harry Krause wrote: JohnH wrote: On Thu, 24 Aug 2006 11:17:38 -0400, Harry Krause wrote: basskisser wrote: This morning the phones in the neighborhood where I live were all out. I didn't even know it, because I have comcast high speed and vonage! I asked the Bellsouth Technician why he was checking the line in front of my house, because I was going to tell him it's dead to my house because I don't have Bellsouth. He said he was checking because some digital device that serves the whole neighborhood went out, and they are trying to restore service!!! Wonderful. Our security alarm system sent out a letter recently advising customers NOT to transfer to VOIP unless they leave a wired traditional phone line in place or subscribe to a special, new, expensive cell service. Wanna guess why? The security company says it is working on a VOIP solution but so far, it "is not reliable." If the security company isn't reliable, I'd get a new one. You've identified many reasons why you can't switch to VOIP. That's a shame, and we all feel sorry for you. Most of the major home security company connect lines do not work with VOIP, I've since learned. Harry, Save yourself the money on home security. Just keep the sign and forget the service. The cops make responding to a home security call the absolutely lowest priority call because 99.999999% of them are false alarms. By the time the cops show up at at your home the burglar has either killed you both or has removed everything of value and is in the next state. I have no idea why you keep offering me unsolicited advice. I've told you several times I have no interest in your expertise-less pronouncements. A deputy sheriff lives down the road a bit from me. I assure you, we have fast response here. Unsolicited advice? To NOYB: "That's probably the dumbest non-political post you've ever made. Bet you don't know why, either." I'll bet you'll tell him, whether he solicits your aid or not! Reggie is just trying to help you not make a huge fool of yourself. NOYB and I engage in badinage. "Reggie" is an asshole. My opinion of him hasn't changed a bit over the years. He's pretty much clueless about everything. Not so. He's provided you with good, thoughtful advice. You should be thanking him. You putting the make on "reggie"? JimmyH is my one and only true love. You've not noticed? He's the one I wear *my* earring for. -- ****************************************** ***** Hope your day is great! ***** ****************************************** John |
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On Thu, 24 Aug 2006 16:29:42 -0400, Harry Krause
wrote: JimH wrote: "Harry Krause" wrote in message . .. JohnH wrote: On Thu, 24 Aug 2006 14:35:30 -0400, Harry Krause wrote: Reginald P. Smithers III wrote: Harry Krause wrote: JohnH wrote: On Thu, 24 Aug 2006 11:17:38 -0400, Harry Krause wrote: basskisser wrote: This morning the phones in the neighborhood where I live were all out. I didn't even know it, because I have comcast high speed and vonage! I asked the Bellsouth Technician why he was checking the line in front of my house, because I was going to tell him it's dead to my house because I don't have Bellsouth. He said he was checking because some digital device that serves the whole neighborhood went out, and they are trying to restore service!!! Wonderful. Our security alarm system sent out a letter recently advising customers NOT to transfer to VOIP unless they leave a wired traditional phone line in place or subscribe to a special, new, expensive cell service. Wanna guess why? The security company says it is working on a VOIP solution but so far, it "is not reliable." If the security company isn't reliable, I'd get a new one. You've identified many reasons why you can't switch to VOIP. That's a shame, and we all feel sorry for you. Most of the major home security company connect lines do not work with VOIP, I've since learned. Harry, Save yourself the money on home security. Just keep the sign and forget the service. The cops make responding to a home security call the absolutely lowest priority call because 99.999999% of them are false alarms. By the time the cops show up at at your home the burglar has either killed you both or has removed everything of value and is in the next state. I have no idea why you keep offering me unsolicited advice. I've told you several times I have no interest in your expertise-less pronouncements. A deputy sheriff lives down the road a bit from me. I assure you, we have fast response here. Unsolicited advice? To NOYB: "That's probably the dumbest non-political post you've ever made. Bet you don't know why, either." I'll bet you'll tell him, whether he solicits your aid or not! Reggie is just trying to help you not make a huge fool of yourself. NOYB and I engage in badinage. "Reggie" is an asshole. My opinion of him hasn't changed a bit over the years. He's pretty much clueless about everything. And I also see my that my buddy with the white furry ladies hat is back stirring the pot again. Maybe when he finished dumping that boat on his kids, he'll move onto one of the many golf groups, where he can discuss his penchant for stroking, shafts and small balls. I'm beginning to wonder about the fascination you and JimH have with jacking off, balls, and other assorted homosexual interests. Are y'all OK? -- ****************************************** ***** Hope your day is great! ***** ****************************************** John |
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JohnH wrote:
JimmyH is my one and only true love. You've not noticed? He's the one I wear *my* earring for. -- ****************************************** ***** Hope your day is great! ***** ****************************************** John I think everyone here should copy above post and squirrel it away for future reference. |
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Harry Krause wrote: JohnH wrote: On Thu, 24 Aug 2006 11:17:38 -0400, Harry Krause wrote: basskisser wrote: This morning the phones in the neighborhood where I live were all out. I didn't even know it, because I have comcast high speed and vonage! I asked the Bellsouth Technician why he was checking the line in front of my house, because I was going to tell him it's dead to my house because I don't have Bellsouth. He said he was checking because some digital device that serves the whole neighborhood went out, and they are trying to restore service!!! Wonderful. Our security alarm system sent out a letter recently advising customers NOT to transfer to VOIP unless they leave a wired traditional phone line in place or subscribe to a special, new, expensive cell service. Wanna guess why? The security company says it is working on a VOIP solution but so far, it "is not reliable." If the security company isn't reliable, I'd get a new one. You've identified many reasons why you can't switch to VOIP. That's a shame, and we all feel sorry for you. Most of the major home security company connect lines do not work with VOIP, I've since learned. Why? The signal goes out of your house just exactly as it does with a landline. Brinks works just great with VOIP |
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"Don White" wrote in message ... JohnH wrote: JimmyH is my one and only true love. You've not noticed? He's the one I wear *my* earring for. -- ****************************************** ***** Hope your day is great! ***** ****************************************** John I think everyone here should copy above post and squirrel it away for future reference. Holy crap! He really does perpetuate this gay thing all by himself. How funny. |
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"Harry Krause" wrote in message ... basskisser wrote: Harry Krause wrote: JohnH wrote: On Thu, 24 Aug 2006 11:17:38 -0400, Harry Krause wrote: basskisser wrote: This morning the phones in the neighborhood where I live were all out. I didn't even know it, because I have comcast high speed and vonage! I asked the Bellsouth Technician why he was checking the line in front of my house, because I was going to tell him it's dead to my house because I don't have Bellsouth. He said he was checking because some digital device that serves the whole neighborhood went out, and they are trying to restore service!!! Wonderful. Our security alarm system sent out a letter recently advising customers NOT to transfer to VOIP unless they leave a wired traditional phone line in place or subscribe to a special, new, expensive cell service. Wanna guess why? The security company says it is working on a VOIP solution but so far, it "is not reliable." If the security company isn't reliable, I'd get a new one. You've identified many reasons why you can't switch to VOIP. That's a shame, and we all feel sorry for you. Most of the major home security company connect lines do not work with VOIP, I've since learned. Why? The signal goes out of your house just exactly as it does with a landline. Brinks works just great with VOIP Well, despite advice to the contrary from Reggie and his boy Herring, ADT says the following: snip From http://www.vonage.com/features_terms_service.php ================================================ 2.16 Incompatibility With Other Services. (a) Home Security Systems. The Service may not be compatible with home security systems. You may be required to maintain a telephone connection through your local exchange carrier in order to use any alarm monitoring functions for any security system installed in your home or business. You are responsible for contacting the alarm monitoring company to test the compatibility of any alarm monitoring or security system with the Service. ================================================== = |
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On Thu, 24 Aug 2006 18:37:01 -0400, Harry Krause
wrote: basskisser wrote: Harry Krause wrote: JohnH wrote: On Thu, 24 Aug 2006 11:17:38 -0400, Harry Krause wrote: basskisser wrote: This morning the phones in the neighborhood where I live were all out. I didn't even know it, because I have comcast high speed and vonage! I asked the Bellsouth Technician why he was checking the line in front of my house, because I was going to tell him it's dead to my house because I don't have Bellsouth. He said he was checking because some digital device that serves the whole neighborhood went out, and they are trying to restore service!!! Wonderful. Our security alarm system sent out a letter recently advising customers NOT to transfer to VOIP unless they leave a wired traditional phone line in place or subscribe to a special, new, expensive cell service. Wanna guess why? The security company says it is working on a VOIP solution but so far, it "is not reliable." If the security company isn't reliable, I'd get a new one. You've identified many reasons why you can't switch to VOIP. That's a shame, and we all feel sorry for you. Most of the major home security company connect lines do not work with VOIP, I've since learned. Why? The signal goes out of your house just exactly as it does with a landline. Brinks works just great with VOIP Well, despite advice to the contrary from Reggie and his boy Herring, ADT says the following: IMPORTANT INFORMATION For ADT® Customers Considering Changes To Your Home Telephone Service Including: * Voice Over Internet Protocol Telephone Service (VoIP) * Other Non-Standard Telephone Service * Elimination of Your Landline Telephone Service If you have changed or are considering changing your home telephone service to Voice Over Internet Protocol (VoIP) or other types of non-standard telephone service, or eliminating your traditional landline telephone service altogether, it is important that you contact ADT at 1-800-ADT-ASAP immediately. you may have disconnected your ADT security system and ADT may not receive alarm signals from your home. It is important for you to test your system to determine whether the change to VoIP or other non-standard telephone service has affected your alarm system. If necessary, ADT can help you test your system and will arrange for a service visit. Do not rely on a non-ADT technician to make your ADT system operational if you have made any changes to your telephone service. Important considerations you should know regarding VoIP or other changes to our home telephone service*: * The Internet has not proven to be as reliable as regular telephone service. Some VoIP services may be temporarily unavailable due to scheduled or unscheduled network outages. You may be familiar with such lapses in service based on your own experiences using the Internet. * Alarm signals that are transmitted over the Internet are more susceptible to loss and distortion versus traditional, landline-based telephone signals. * With VoIP or some other types of non-standard telephone services, power to your phone comes from your home-not the telephone company; so you should have a battery backup to help keep your Internet network equipment working when power to your home is off. While your ADT alarm panel already has a battery backup to help assure continued operation during a loss of power, this battery backup will not power VoIP or non-standard telephone service. * ADT may lose the ability to program your alarm system remotely via your phone connection and could require a service call if changes are required. * Your ADT alarm control panel is designed to "seize" control of the telephone line in front of all telephone extensions in the house in order to transmit alarm data. This important feature allows the alarm system to transmit alarm information to the ADT Customer Monitoring Center even when phone extensions are left off the hook. Some VoIP installations may jeopardize this important feature. * If you eliminate your landline telephone or change your telephone number, please contact ADT immediately to update your contact information. Your safety and security is ADT's number one priority-That's why ADT always recommends maintaining a basic landline telephone service for the transmission of ADT alarm signals. Regardless of the type of telephone service that you choose, it is important to test your alarm system regularly to assure that it is communicating to ADT. In the event you do not keep landline telephone service, ADT recommends an alternate or additional method of alarm signal transmission. For this reason, ADT is offering special packages on ADT Safewatch Cellguard,® which provides your home with a cellular connection to ADT,** bypassing your home telephone service altogether, and thus addressing the security monitoring issues that can be associated with some VoIP and other emerging technologies. Safewatch Cellguard® can help keep your home connected to ADT even if you make a change to VoIP or to some other types of non-standard telephone service, or if you eliminate your traditional landline-based telephone service altogether.*** For more information on ADT's Safewatch Cellguard and our special packages for customers with VoIP service, please call 1-800-ADT-ASAP. * Aspects of these considerations may vary dependent upon your VoIP or other non-standard telephone service provider and change with new developments in Internet technology. You should always check with your VoIP or other non-standard telephone service provider to confirm any advantages and limitations of their service. Additional information on VoIP is available at www.fcc.gov/voip. **Cellular connection relies on operating cellular device and network services. ***ADT's recommendations regarding additional or alternate cellular connection apply to Burglar Alarm services only. While cellular devices can transmit fire alarm signals, transmission of fire alarm signals by means other than a standard telephone line may not be in compliance with national household fire alarm standards or some local fire codes. *I* advised you to switch? Reggie advised you to switch? Both of us told you *not* to switch due to all the problems you have. -- ****************************************** ***** Hope your day is great! ***** ****************************************** John |
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On Thu, 24 Aug 2006 18:51:22 -0400, Harry Krause
wrote: JimH wrote: "Harry Krause" wrote in message ... basskisser wrote: Harry Krause wrote: JohnH wrote: On Thu, 24 Aug 2006 11:17:38 -0400, Harry Krause wrote: basskisser wrote: This morning the phones in the neighborhood where I live were all out. I didn't even know it, because I have comcast high speed and vonage! I asked the Bellsouth Technician why he was checking the line in front of my house, because I was going to tell him it's dead to my house because I don't have Bellsouth. He said he was checking because some digital device that serves the whole neighborhood went out, and they are trying to restore service!!! Wonderful. Our security alarm system sent out a letter recently advising customers NOT to transfer to VOIP unless they leave a wired traditional phone line in place or subscribe to a special, new, expensive cell service. Wanna guess why? The security company says it is working on a VOIP solution but so far, it "is not reliable." If the security company isn't reliable, I'd get a new one. You've identified many reasons why you can't switch to VOIP. That's a shame, and we all feel sorry for you. Most of the major home security company connect lines do not work with VOIP, I've since learned. Why? The signal goes out of your house just exactly as it does with a landline. Brinks works just great with VOIP Well, despite advice to the contrary from Reggie and his boy Herring, ADT says the following: snip From http://www.vonage.com/features_terms_service.php ================================================ 2.16 Incompatibility With Other Services. (a) Home Security Systems. The Service may not be compatible with home security systems. You may be required to maintain a telephone connection through your local exchange carrier in order to use any alarm monitoring functions for any security system installed in your home or business. You are responsible for contacting the alarm monitoring company to test the compatibility of any alarm monitoring or security system with the Service. ================================================== = Well, of course, Reggie and his boy Herring know better. Which is why we told you to stick with what you've got! Reading comprehension? -- ****************************************** ***** Hope your day is great! ***** ****************************************** John |
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On Thu, 24 Aug 2006 18:38:56 -0400, Harry Krause
wrote: JimH wrote: "Don White" wrote in message ... JohnH wrote: JimmyH is my one and only true love. You've not noticed? He's the one I wear *my* earring for. -- ****************************************** ***** Hope your day is great! ***** ****************************************** John I think everyone here should copy above post and squirrel it away for future reference. Holy crap! He really does perpetuate this gay thing all by himself. How funny. I heard he sold that yellow mustang to his hairdresser. Or maybe they worked out a trade. He and I are both looking for something in pink. JimmyH jumped right in there, didn't he! -- ****************************************** ***** Hope your day is great! ***** ****************************************** John |
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Harry Krause wrote:
Well, despite advice to the contrary from Reggie and his boy Herring, ADT says the following: Harry, I have no idea what you are talking about, the only advice I gave you in reference to your security system was to discontinue the service and keep the sign. I didn't discuss VOIP or MABell. According to the police in my area the normal response time for a security alarm is over 90 minutes. Before anyone invests a penny in a security system, they need to call their local police dept. and ask them what their normal response time for a home security alarm is. As I said, the cop who responded to my neighbors alarm told me 99.999999999% of the alarms are false alarms so they are always the lowest of priorities. |
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Harry Krause wrote:
JimH wrote: "Harry Krause" wrote in message ... basskisser wrote: Harry Krause wrote: JohnH wrote: On Thu, 24 Aug 2006 11:17:38 -0400, Harry Krause wrote: basskisser wrote: This morning the phones in the neighborhood where I live were all out. I didn't even know it, because I have comcast high speed and vonage! I asked the Bellsouth Technician why he was checking the line in front of my house, because I was going to tell him it's dead to my house because I don't have Bellsouth. He said he was checking because some digital device that serves the whole neighborhood went out, and they are trying to restore service!!! Wonderful. Our security alarm system sent out a letter recently advising customers NOT to transfer to VOIP unless they leave a wired traditional phone line in place or subscribe to a special, new, expensive cell service. Wanna guess why? The security company says it is working on a VOIP solution but so far, it "is not reliable." If the security company isn't reliable, I'd get a new one. You've identified many reasons why you can't switch to VOIP. That's a shame, and we all feel sorry for you. Most of the major home security company connect lines do not work with VOIP, I've since learned. Why? The signal goes out of your house just exactly as it does with a landline. Brinks works just great with VOIP Well, despite advice to the contrary from Reggie and his boy Herring, ADT says the following: snip From http://www.vonage.com/features_terms_service.php ================================================ 2.16 Incompatibility With Other Services. (a) Home Security Systems. The Service may not be compatible with home security systems. You may be required to maintain a telephone connection through your local exchange carrier in order to use any alarm monitoring functions for any security system installed in your home or business. You are responsible for contacting the alarm monitoring company to test the compatibility of any alarm monitoring or security system with the Service. ================================================== = Well, of course, Reggie and his boy Herring know better. Harry, Bring me up to date, what was my comment about VOIP and ADT? |
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On Thu, 24 Aug 2006 19:30:53 -0400, JohnH wrote:
On Thu, 24 Aug 2006 18:51:22 -0400, Harry Krause wrote: JimH wrote: "Harry Krause" wrote in message ... basskisser wrote: Harry Krause wrote: JohnH wrote: On Thu, 24 Aug 2006 11:17:38 -0400, Harry Krause wrote: basskisser wrote: This morning the phones in the neighborhood where I live were all out. I didn't even know it, because I have comcast high speed and vonage! I asked the Bellsouth Technician why he was checking the line in front of my house, because I was going to tell him it's dead to my house because I don't have Bellsouth. He said he was checking because some digital device that serves the whole neighborhood went out, and they are trying to restore service!!! Wonderful. Our security alarm system sent out a letter recently advising customers NOT to transfer to VOIP unless they leave a wired traditional phone line in place or subscribe to a special, new, expensive cell service. Wanna guess why? The security company says it is working on a VOIP solution but so far, it "is not reliable." If the security company isn't reliable, I'd get a new one. You've identified many reasons why you can't switch to VOIP. That's a shame, and we all feel sorry for you. Most of the major home security company connect lines do not work with VOIP, I've since learned. Why? The signal goes out of your house just exactly as it does with a landline. Brinks works just great with VOIP Well, despite advice to the contrary from Reggie and his boy Herring, ADT says the following: snip From http://www.vonage.com/features_terms_service.php ================================================ 2.16 Incompatibility With Other Services. (a) Home Security Systems. The Service may not be compatible with home security systems. You may be required to maintain a telephone connection through your local exchange carrier in order to use any alarm monitoring functions for any security system installed in your home or business. You are responsible for contacting the alarm monitoring company to test the compatibility of any alarm monitoring or security system with the Service. ================================================== = Well, of course, Reggie and his boy Herring know better. Which is why we told you to stick with what you've got! Reading comprehension? Harry is old and confused. It was actually BK that said that VoIP and "landline" phone lines are the same, but Harry couldn't keep up. It's sort of sad. Like your grandpa. When he hits 97. |
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Jack Goff wrote:
On Thu, 24 Aug 2006 19:30:53 -0400, JohnH wrote: On Thu, 24 Aug 2006 18:51:22 -0400, Harry Krause wrote: JimH wrote: "Harry Krause" wrote in message ... basskisser wrote: Harry Krause wrote: JohnH wrote: On Thu, 24 Aug 2006 11:17:38 -0400, Harry Krause wrote: basskisser wrote: This morning the phones in the neighborhood where I live were all out. I didn't even know it, because I have comcast high speed and vonage! I asked the Bellsouth Technician why he was checking the line in front of my house, because I was going to tell him it's dead to my house because I don't have Bellsouth. He said he was checking because some digital device that serves the whole neighborhood went out, and they are trying to restore service!!! Wonderful. Our security alarm system sent out a letter recently advising customers NOT to transfer to VOIP unless they leave a wired traditional phone line in place or subscribe to a special, new, expensive cell service. Wanna guess why? The security company says it is working on a VOIP solution but so far, it "is not reliable." If the security company isn't reliable, I'd get a new one. You've identified many reasons why you can't switch to VOIP. That's a shame, and we all feel sorry for you. Most of the major home security company connect lines do not work with VOIP, I've since learned. Why? The signal goes out of your house just exactly as it does with a landline. Brinks works just great with VOIP Well, despite advice to the contrary from Reggie and his boy Herring, ADT says the following: snip From http://www.vonage.com/features_terms_service.php ================================================ 2.16 Incompatibility With Other Services. (a) Home Security Systems. The Service may not be compatible with home security systems. You may be required to maintain a telephone connection through your local exchange carrier in order to use any alarm monitoring functions for any security system installed in your home or business. You are responsible for contacting the alarm monitoring company to test the compatibility of any alarm monitoring or security system with the Service. ================================================== = Well, of course, Reggie and his boy Herring know better. Which is why we told you to stick with what you've got! Reading comprehension? Harry is old and confused. It was actually BK that said that VoIP and "landline" phone lines are the same, but Harry couldn't keep up. It's sort of sad. Like your grandpa. When he hits 97. I think Harry's time at the local jail for the last couple of weekends is dulling his senses. I wonder how many more weekends at government expense Harry will have to endure? |
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Harry Krause wrote: basskisser wrote: Harry Krause wrote: JohnH wrote: On Thu, 24 Aug 2006 11:17:38 -0400, Harry Krause wrote: basskisser wrote: This morning the phones in the neighborhood where I live were all out. I didn't even know it, because I have comcast high speed and vonage! I asked the Bellsouth Technician why he was checking the line in front of my house, because I was going to tell him it's dead to my house because I don't have Bellsouth. He said he was checking because some digital device that serves the whole neighborhood went out, and they are trying to restore service!!! Wonderful. Our security alarm system sent out a letter recently advising customers NOT to transfer to VOIP unless they leave a wired traditional phone line in place or subscribe to a special, new, expensive cell service. Wanna guess why? The security company says it is working on a VOIP solution but so far, it "is not reliable." If the security company isn't reliable, I'd get a new one. You've identified many reasons why you can't switch to VOIP. That's a shame, and we all feel sorry for you. Most of the major home security company connect lines do not work with VOIP, I've since learned. Why? The signal goes out of your house just exactly as it does with a landline. Brinks works just great with VOIP Well, despite advice to the contrary from Reggie and his boy Herring, ADT says the following: Perhaps you should change your security company to one that is up to date and able to work with new fangled equipment! |
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Harry Krause wrote: JimH wrote: "Harry Krause" wrote in message ... basskisser wrote: Harry Krause wrote: JohnH wrote: On Thu, 24 Aug 2006 11:17:38 -0400, Harry Krause wrote: basskisser wrote: This morning the phones in the neighborhood where I live were all out. I didn't even know it, because I have comcast high speed and vonage! I asked the Bellsouth Technician why he was checking the line in front of my house, because I was going to tell him it's dead to my house because I don't have Bellsouth. He said he was checking because some digital device that serves the whole neighborhood went out, and they are trying to restore service!!! Wonderful. Our security alarm system sent out a letter recently advising customers NOT to transfer to VOIP unless they leave a wired traditional phone line in place or subscribe to a special, new, expensive cell service. Wanna guess why? The security company says it is working on a VOIP solution but so far, it "is not reliable." If the security company isn't reliable, I'd get a new one. You've identified many reasons why you can't switch to VOIP. That's a shame, and we all feel sorry for you. Most of the major home security company connect lines do not work with VOIP, I've since learned. Why? The signal goes out of your house just exactly as it does with a landline. Brinks works just great with VOIP Well, despite advice to the contrary from Reggie and his boy Herring, ADT says the following: snip From http://www.vonage.com/features_terms_service.php ================================================ 2.16 Incompatibility With Other Services. (a) Home Security Systems. The Service may not be compatible with home security systems. You may be required to maintain a telephone connection through your local exchange carrier in order to use any alarm monitoring functions for any security system installed in your home or business. You are responsible for contacting the alarm monitoring company to test the compatibility of any alarm monitoring or security system with the Service. ================================================== = Well, of course, Reggie and his boy Herring know better. I do! My security system works just exactly as it did when I had Bellsouth. Exactly. |
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JohnH wrote: On Thu, 24 Aug 2006 18:38:56 -0400, Harry Krause wrote: JimH wrote: "Don White" wrote in message ... JohnH wrote: JimmyH is my one and only true love. You've not noticed? He's the one I wear *my* earring for. -- ****************************************** ***** Hope your day is great! ***** ****************************************** John I think everyone here should copy above post and squirrel it away for future reference. Holy crap! He really does perpetuate this gay thing all by himself. How funny. I heard he sold that yellow mustang to his hairdresser. Or maybe they worked out a trade. He and I are both looking for something in pink. JimmyH jumped right in there, didn't he! -- ****************************************** ***** Hope your day is great! ***** ****************************************** John Jim's like a little boy. He can dish his brand of bull**** out, but he sure can't take it!! He's off on another of his monthly period bipolar rants!!!! |
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Bert Robbins wrote: Jack Goff wrote: On Thu, 24 Aug 2006 19:30:53 -0400, JohnH wrote: On Thu, 24 Aug 2006 18:51:22 -0400, Harry Krause wrote: JimH wrote: "Harry Krause" wrote in message ... basskisser wrote: Harry Krause wrote: JohnH wrote: On Thu, 24 Aug 2006 11:17:38 -0400, Harry Krause wrote: basskisser wrote: This morning the phones in the neighborhood where I live were all out. I didn't even know it, because I have comcast high speed and vonage! I asked the Bellsouth Technician why he was checking the line in front of my house, because I was going to tell him it's dead to my house because I don't have Bellsouth. He said he was checking because some digital device that serves the whole neighborhood went out, and they are trying to restore service!!! Wonderful. Our security alarm system sent out a letter recently advising customers NOT to transfer to VOIP unless they leave a wired traditional phone line in place or subscribe to a special, new, expensive cell service. Wanna guess why? The security company says it is working on a VOIP solution but so far, it "is not reliable." If the security company isn't reliable, I'd get a new one. You've identified many reasons why you can't switch to VOIP. That's a shame, and we all feel sorry for you. Most of the major home security company connect lines do not work with VOIP, I've since learned. Why? The signal goes out of your house just exactly as it does with a landline. Brinks works just great with VOIP Well, despite advice to the contrary from Reggie and his boy Herring, ADT says the following: snip From http://www.vonage.com/features_terms_service.php ================================================ 2.16 Incompatibility With Other Services. (a) Home Security Systems. The Service may not be compatible with home security systems. You may be required to maintain a telephone connection through your local exchange carrier in order to use any alarm monitoring functions for any security system installed in your home or business. You are responsible for contacting the alarm monitoring company to test the compatibility of any alarm monitoring or security system with the Service. ================================================== = Well, of course, Reggie and his boy Herring know better. Which is why we told you to stick with what you've got! Reading comprehension? Harry is old and confused. It was actually BK that said that VoIP and "landline" phone lines are the same, but Harry couldn't keep up. It's sort of sad. Like your grandpa. When he hits 97. I think Harry's time at the local jail for the last couple of weekends is dulling his senses. I wonder how many more weekends at government expense Harry will have to endure? I enjoy how you are stupid enough to accuse someone of something without any shred of evidence. Quite ignorant. |
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Jack Goff wrote: On Thu, 24 Aug 2006 19:30:53 -0400, JohnH wrote: On Thu, 24 Aug 2006 18:51:22 -0400, Harry Krause wrote: JimH wrote: "Harry Krause" wrote in message ... basskisser wrote: Harry Krause wrote: JohnH wrote: On Thu, 24 Aug 2006 11:17:38 -0400, Harry Krause wrote: basskisser wrote: This morning the phones in the neighborhood where I live were all out. I didn't even know it, because I have comcast high speed and vonage! I asked the Bellsouth Technician why he was checking the line in front of my house, because I was going to tell him it's dead to my house because I don't have Bellsouth. He said he was checking because some digital device that serves the whole neighborhood went out, and they are trying to restore service!!! Wonderful. Our security alarm system sent out a letter recently advising customers NOT to transfer to VOIP unless they leave a wired traditional phone line in place or subscribe to a special, new, expensive cell service. Wanna guess why? The security company says it is working on a VOIP solution but so far, it "is not reliable." If the security company isn't reliable, I'd get a new one. You've identified many reasons why you can't switch to VOIP. That's a shame, and we all feel sorry for you. Most of the major home security company connect lines do not work with VOIP, I've since learned. Why? The signal goes out of your house just exactly as it does with a landline. Brinks works just great with VOIP Well, despite advice to the contrary from Reggie and his boy Herring, ADT says the following: snip From http://www.vonage.com/features_terms_service.php ================================================ 2.16 Incompatibility With Other Services. (a) Home Security Systems. The Service may not be compatible with home security systems. You may be required to maintain a telephone connection through your local exchange carrier in order to use any alarm monitoring functions for any security system installed in your home or business. You are responsible for contacting the alarm monitoring company to test the compatibility of any alarm monitoring or security system with the Service. ================================================== = Well, of course, Reggie and his boy Herring know better. Which is why we told you to stick with what you've got! Reading comprehension? Harry is old and confused. It was actually BK that said that VoIP and "landline" phone lines are the same, but Harry couldn't keep up. No, I didn't. I said that my security system works exactly the same with VOIP as it does with landline phone systems. Please learn to comprehend what you read. |
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Harry Krause wrote: basskisser wrote: Harry Krause wrote: basskisser wrote: Harry Krause wrote: JohnH wrote: On Thu, 24 Aug 2006 11:17:38 -0400, Harry Krause wrote: basskisser wrote: This morning the phones in the neighborhood where I live were all out. I didn't even know it, because I have comcast high speed and vonage! I asked the Bellsouth Technician why he was checking the line in front of my house, because I was going to tell him it's dead to my house because I don't have Bellsouth. He said he was checking because some digital device that serves the whole neighborhood went out, and they are trying to restore service!!! Wonderful. Our security alarm system sent out a letter recently advising customers NOT to transfer to VOIP unless they leave a wired traditional phone line in place or subscribe to a special, new, expensive cell service. Wanna guess why? The security company says it is working on a VOIP solution but so far, it "is not reliable." If the security company isn't reliable, I'd get a new one. You've identified many reasons why you can't switch to VOIP. That's a shame, and we all feel sorry for you. Most of the major home security company connect lines do not work with VOIP, I've since learned. Why? The signal goes out of your house just exactly as it does with a landline. Brinks works just great with VOIP Well, despite advice to the contrary from Reggie and his boy Herring, ADT says the following: Perhaps you should change your security company to one that is up to date and able to work with new fangled equipment! I'm not interested in changing from the reliable telephone service that has served me admirably for these many years for VOIP so I can save $25 a month. There are all manner of problems possible with VOIP, none of which appeal to me, including crappy sound quality, downtime when the internet connection is down, and its inability to perform properly with my home security sytem. But I'm happy it works for you, the fraud known here as "Reggie," and whomever. Kevin has a security system on his double wide? How funny. |
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On 25 Aug 2006 04:55:55 -0700, "basskisser"
wrote: Jack Goff wrote: On Thu, 24 Aug 2006 19:30:53 -0400, JohnH wrote: On Thu, 24 Aug 2006 18:51:22 -0400, Harry Krause wrote: JimH wrote: "Harry Krause" wrote in message ... basskisser wrote: Harry Krause wrote: JohnH wrote: On Thu, 24 Aug 2006 11:17:38 -0400, Harry Krause wrote: basskisser wrote: This morning the phones in the neighborhood where I live were all out. I didn't even know it, because I have comcast high speed and vonage! I asked the Bellsouth Technician why he was checking the line in front of my house, because I was going to tell him it's dead to my house because I don't have Bellsouth. He said he was checking because some digital device that serves the whole neighborhood went out, and they are trying to restore service!!! Wonderful. Our security alarm system sent out a letter recently advising customers NOT to transfer to VOIP unless they leave a wired traditional phone line in place or subscribe to a special, new, expensive cell service. Wanna guess why? The security company says it is working on a VOIP solution but so far, it "is not reliable." If the security company isn't reliable, I'd get a new one. You've identified many reasons why you can't switch to VOIP. That's a shame, and we all feel sorry for you. Most of the major home security company connect lines do not work with VOIP, I've since learned. Why? The signal goes out of your house just exactly as it does with a landline. Brinks works just great with VOIP Well, despite advice to the contrary from Reggie and his boy Herring, ADT says the following: snip From http://www.vonage.com/features_terms_service.php ================================================ 2.16 Incompatibility With Other Services. (a) Home Security Systems. The Service may not be compatible with home security systems. You may be required to maintain a telephone connection through your local exchange carrier in order to use any alarm monitoring functions for any security system installed in your home or business. You are responsible for contacting the alarm monitoring company to test the compatibility of any alarm monitoring or security system with the Service. ================================================== = Well, of course, Reggie and his boy Herring know better. Which is why we told you to stick with what you've got! Reading comprehension? Harry is old and confused. It was actually BK that said that VoIP and "landline" phone lines are the same, but Harry couldn't keep up. No, I didn't. I said that my security system works exactly the same with VOIP as it does with landline phone systems. Please learn to comprehend what you read. Learn to express yourself more clearly. You wrote about VoIP: "The signal goes out of your house just exactly as it does with a landline." The signal does not "go out of your house" in the same manner for landline and VoIP at all. They use completely different transport protocols and media. If you meant that the alarm system signal ends up at the same destination, with the same end results, then that's what you should have written. Even though that's still not true. Of course, you realize that the alarm system is nothing but a modem, and that VoIP is ill-suited for transporting modem signals. While it may work today, there is absolutely no guarantee that it will work tonight or tomorrow. If Vonage tweaks the codec they are using, or the internet has some delay or dropped packets when the alarm tries to connect, your intruder alert fails. There's no guarantee of delivery of IP packets for VoIP. Your ear can deal with lots of dropped packets when ordering pizza. The alarm modem can not. |
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On 25 Aug 2006 04:50:11 -0700, "basskisser"
wrote: Harry Krause wrote: basskisser wrote: Harry Krause wrote: JohnH wrote: On Thu, 24 Aug 2006 11:17:38 -0400, Harry Krause wrote: basskisser wrote: This morning the phones in the neighborhood where I live were all out. I didn't even know it, because I have comcast high speed and vonage! I asked the Bellsouth Technician why he was checking the line in front of my house, because I was going to tell him it's dead to my house because I don't have Bellsouth. He said he was checking because some digital device that serves the whole neighborhood went out, and they are trying to restore service!!! Wonderful. Our security alarm system sent out a letter recently advising customers NOT to transfer to VOIP unless they leave a wired traditional phone line in place or subscribe to a special, new, expensive cell service. Wanna guess why? The security company says it is working on a VOIP solution but so far, it "is not reliable." If the security company isn't reliable, I'd get a new one. You've identified many reasons why you can't switch to VOIP. That's a shame, and we all feel sorry for you. Most of the major home security company connect lines do not work with VOIP, I've since learned. Why? The signal goes out of your house just exactly as it does with a landline. Brinks works just great with VOIP Well, despite advice to the contrary from Reggie and his boy Herring, ADT says the following: Perhaps you should change your security company to one that is up to date and able to work with new fangled equipment! What company is that, bass? The one you use? Who is it? I'm not aware of any that say the use of VoIP phone service is approved. |
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Harry Krause wrote:
But I'm happy it works for you, the fraud known here as "Reggie," and whomever. Harry, Why the personal attacks? I thought we had gotten over that and were able to chat without falling back on that. In case you haven't noticed, I have not been playing your verbal wars, doesn't it get old having a one sided fight? |
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Harry Krause wrote: basskisser wrote: Harry Krause wrote: basskisser wrote: Harry Krause wrote: JohnH wrote: On Thu, 24 Aug 2006 11:17:38 -0400, Harry Krause wrote: basskisser wrote: This morning the phones in the neighborhood where I live were all out. I didn't even know it, because I have comcast high speed and vonage! I asked the Bellsouth Technician why he was checking the line in front of my house, because I was going to tell him it's dead to my house because I don't have Bellsouth. He said he was checking because some digital device that serves the whole neighborhood went out, and they are trying to restore service!!! Wonderful. Our security alarm system sent out a letter recently advising customers NOT to transfer to VOIP unless they leave a wired traditional phone line in place or subscribe to a special, new, expensive cell service. Wanna guess why? The security company says it is working on a VOIP solution but so far, it "is not reliable." If the security company isn't reliable, I'd get a new one. You've identified many reasons why you can't switch to VOIP. That's a shame, and we all feel sorry for you. Most of the major home security company connect lines do not work with VOIP, I've since learned. Why? The signal goes out of your house just exactly as it does with a landline. Brinks works just great with VOIP Well, despite advice to the contrary from Reggie and his boy Herring, ADT says the following: Perhaps you should change your security company to one that is up to date and able to work with new fangled equipment! I'm not interested in changing from the reliable telephone service that has served me admirably for these many years for VOIP so I can save $25 a month. There are all manner of problems possible with VOIP, none of which appeal to me, including crappy sound quality, downtime when the internet connection is down, and its inability to perform properly with my home security sytem. My sound is as good as the landline EVER was. My downtime has actually stayed about the same, that is, not hardly ever, and it works flawlessly with my security system. It isn't all about saving $25 a month, but more about the ma bells being complete rip offs. Also, that $25 dollars buys a lot of live bait! Take a look at your phone bill carefully, and look at all of the total rip off charges that are on there. |
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Jack Goff wrote: On 25 Aug 2006 04:50:11 -0700, "basskisser" wrote: Harry Krause wrote: basskisser wrote: Harry Krause wrote: JohnH wrote: On Thu, 24 Aug 2006 11:17:38 -0400, Harry Krause wrote: basskisser wrote: This morning the phones in the neighborhood where I live were all out. I didn't even know it, because I have comcast high speed and vonage! I asked the Bellsouth Technician why he was checking the line in front of my house, because I was going to tell him it's dead to my house because I don't have Bellsouth. He said he was checking because some digital device that serves the whole neighborhood went out, and they are trying to restore service!!! Wonderful. Our security alarm system sent out a letter recently advising customers NOT to transfer to VOIP unless they leave a wired traditional phone line in place or subscribe to a special, new, expensive cell service. Wanna guess why? The security company says it is working on a VOIP solution but so far, it "is not reliable." If the security company isn't reliable, I'd get a new one. You've identified many reasons why you can't switch to VOIP. That's a shame, and we all feel sorry for you. Most of the major home security company connect lines do not work with VOIP, I've since learned. Why? The signal goes out of your house just exactly as it does with a landline. Brinks works just great with VOIP Well, despite advice to the contrary from Reggie and his boy Herring, ADT says the following: Perhaps you should change your security company to one that is up to date and able to work with new fangled equipment! What company is that, bass? The one you use? Who is it? I'm not aware of any that say the use of VoIP phone service is approved. Again, comprehension. In never said where ANY company said that VOIP is "approved". For that matter, I just looked at my contract with my security company, and it doesn't even say that Bell South is "approved". Mine does, however work flawlessly with my VOIP. |
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Jack Goff wrote: On 25 Aug 2006 04:55:55 -0700, "basskisser" wrote: Jack Goff wrote: On Thu, 24 Aug 2006 19:30:53 -0400, JohnH wrote: On Thu, 24 Aug 2006 18:51:22 -0400, Harry Krause wrote: JimH wrote: "Harry Krause" wrote in message ... basskisser wrote: Harry Krause wrote: JohnH wrote: On Thu, 24 Aug 2006 11:17:38 -0400, Harry Krause wrote: basskisser wrote: This morning the phones in the neighborhood where I live were all out. I didn't even know it, because I have comcast high speed and vonage! I asked the Bellsouth Technician why he was checking the line in front of my house, because I was going to tell him it's dead to my house because I don't have Bellsouth. He said he was checking because some digital device that serves the whole neighborhood went out, and they are trying to restore service!!! Wonderful. Our security alarm system sent out a letter recently advising customers NOT to transfer to VOIP unless they leave a wired traditional phone line in place or subscribe to a special, new, expensive cell service. Wanna guess why? The security company says it is working on a VOIP solution but so far, it "is not reliable." If the security company isn't reliable, I'd get a new one. You've identified many reasons why you can't switch to VOIP. That's a shame, and we all feel sorry for you. Most of the major home security company connect lines do not work with VOIP, I've since learned. Why? The signal goes out of your house just exactly as it does with a landline. Brinks works just great with VOIP Well, despite advice to the contrary from Reggie and his boy Herring, ADT says the following: snip From http://www.vonage.com/features_terms_service.php ================================================ 2.16 Incompatibility With Other Services. (a) Home Security Systems. The Service may not be compatible with home security systems. You may be required to maintain a telephone connection through your local exchange carrier in order to use any alarm monitoring functions for any security system installed in your home or business. You are responsible for contacting the alarm monitoring company to test the compatibility of any alarm monitoring or security system with the Service. ================================================== = Well, of course, Reggie and his boy Herring know better. Which is why we told you to stick with what you've got! Reading comprehension? Harry is old and confused. It was actually BK that said that VoIP and "landline" phone lines are the same, but Harry couldn't keep up. No, I didn't. I said that my security system works exactly the same with VOIP as it does with landline phone systems. Please learn to comprehend what you read. Learn to express yourself more clearly. You wrote about VoIP: "The signal goes out of your house just exactly as it does with a landline." The signal does not "go out of your house" in the same manner for landline and VoIP at all. They use completely different transport protocols and media. My signal for my security system goes through the same exact wiring in my house as it always has. My VOIP system is hooked seamlessly to those same exact wires. Hence, the security system signal is through those exact same wires. Of course, you realize that the alarm system is nothing but a modem, and that VoIP is ill-suited for transporting modem signals. While it may work today, there is absolutely no guarantee that it will work tonight or tomorrow. If Vonage tweaks the codec they are using, or the internet has some delay or dropped packets when the alarm tries to connect, your intruder alert fails. There's no guarantee of delivery of IP packets for VoIP. Your ear can deal with lots of dropped packets when ordering pizza. The alarm modem can not. Never, ever had a problem. My security company does a weekly test, every Wednesday afternoon, it's always passed. |
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"Jack Goff" wrote in message ... On 25 Aug 2006 04:50:11 -0700, "basskisser" wrote: Harry Krause wrote: basskisser wrote: Harry Krause wrote: JohnH wrote: On Thu, 24 Aug 2006 11:17:38 -0400, Harry Krause wrote: basskisser wrote: This morning the phones in the neighborhood where I live were all out. I didn't even know it, because I have comcast high speed and vonage! I asked the Bellsouth Technician why he was checking the line in front of my house, because I was going to tell him it's dead to my house because I don't have Bellsouth. He said he was checking because some digital device that serves the whole neighborhood went out, and they are trying to restore service!!! Wonderful. Our security alarm system sent out a letter recently advising customers NOT to transfer to VOIP unless they leave a wired traditional phone line in place or subscribe to a special, new, expensive cell service. Wanna guess why? The security company says it is working on a VOIP solution but so far, it "is not reliable." If the security company isn't reliable, I'd get a new one. You've identified many reasons why you can't switch to VOIP. That's a shame, and we all feel sorry for you. Most of the major home security company connect lines do not work with VOIP, I've since learned. Why? The signal goes out of your house just exactly as it does with a landline. Brinks works just great with VOIP Well, despite advice to the contrary from Reggie and his boy Herring, ADT says the following: Perhaps you should change your security company to one that is up to date and able to work with new fangled equipment! What company is that, bass? The one you use? Who is it? I'm not aware of any that say the use of VoIP phone service is approved. It looks like Kevin does not understand the difference between a "security" company and a "central station alarm monitoring" company. BTW, I called Brinks and they said they would not recommend their service when one uses VOIP and they could not offer any guarantee they could or would receive the signal. ;-) |
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basskisser wrote:
Jack Goff wrote: On 25 Aug 2006 04:55:55 -0700, "basskisser" wrote: Jack Goff wrote: On Thu, 24 Aug 2006 19:30:53 -0400, JohnH wrote: On Thu, 24 Aug 2006 18:51:22 -0400, Harry Krause wrote: JimH wrote: "Harry Krause" wrote in message ... basskisser wrote: Harry Krause wrote: JohnH wrote: On Thu, 24 Aug 2006 11:17:38 -0400, Harry Krause wrote: basskisser wrote: This morning the phones in the neighborhood where I live were all out. I didn't even know it, because I have comcast high speed and vonage! I asked the Bellsouth Technician why he was checking the line in front of my house, because I was going to tell him it's dead to my house because I don't have Bellsouth. He said he was checking because some digital device that serves the whole neighborhood went out, and they are trying to restore service!!! Wonderful. Our security alarm system sent out a letter recently advising customers NOT to transfer to VOIP unless they leave a wired traditional phone line in place or subscribe to a special, new, expensive cell service. Wanna guess why? The security company says it is working on a VOIP solution but so far, it "is not reliable." If the security company isn't reliable, I'd get a new one. You've identified many reasons why you can't switch to VOIP. That's a shame, and we all feel sorry for you. Most of the major home security company connect lines do not work with VOIP, I've since learned. Why? The signal goes out of your house just exactly as it does with a landline. Brinks works just great with VOIP Well, despite advice to the contrary from Reggie and his boy Herring, ADT says the following: snip From http://www.vonage.com/features_terms_service.php ================================================ 2.16 Incompatibility With Other Services. (a) Home Security Systems. The Service may not be compatible with home security systems. You may be required to maintain a telephone connection through your local exchange carrier in order to use any alarm monitoring functions for any security system installed in your home or business. You are responsible for contacting the alarm monitoring company to test the compatibility of any alarm monitoring or security system with the Service. ================================================== = Well, of course, Reggie and his boy Herring know better. Which is why we told you to stick with what you've got! Reading comprehension? Harry is old and confused. It was actually BK that said that VoIP and "landline" phone lines are the same, but Harry couldn't keep up. No, I didn't. I said that my security system works exactly the same with VOIP as it does with landline phone systems. Please learn to comprehend what you read. Learn to express yourself more clearly. You wrote about VoIP: "The signal goes out of your house just exactly as it does with a landline." The signal does not "go out of your house" in the same manner for landline and VoIP at all. They use completely different transport protocols and media. My signal for my security system goes through the same exact wiring in my house as it always has. My VOIP system is hooked seamlessly to those same exact wires. Hence, the security system signal is through those exact same wires. Of course, you realize that the alarm system is nothing but a modem, and that VoIP is ill-suited for transporting modem signals. While it may work today, there is absolutely no guarantee that it will work tonight or tomorrow. If Vonage tweaks the codec they are using, or the internet has some delay or dropped packets when the alarm tries to connect, your intruder alert fails. There's no guarantee of delivery of IP packets for VoIP. Your ear can deal with lots of dropped packets when ordering pizza. The alarm modem can not. Never, ever had a problem. My security company does a weekly test, every Wednesday afternoon, it's always passed. Bassy, When I first started asking about VOIP I was not really concerned about saving money, but making sure MaBell had viable competition. We all have seen what has happened to Long Distance since MaBell had viable competition. Some people talk about saving $25 a month, but the savings can be substantially more based upon free long distance calls including free calls to Canada and Europe, and all the extra bells and whistles Vonage throws in for free. If you do not have a reliable ISP VOIP is not an option, but if I did not have a reliable ISP, I would be looking for a new ISP even if I didn't want VOIP. If you do have a reliable ISP, Vonage or any of the other highly rated VOIP are good alternatives to MaBell, will save you money, and you probably won't be able to tell the difference between MaBell and Vonage. |
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Gene Kearns wrote:
On Fri, 25 Aug 2006 10:46:55 -0400, " JimH" not telling you @ pffftt.com wrote: BTW, I called Brinks and they said they would not recommend their service when one uses VOIP and they could not offer any guarantee they could or would receive the signal. ;-) I would hazard a guess that no company would "guarantee" their performance based on the reliance of performance of a third company.... However, based on personal experience, I wouldn't even "expect" that Vonage could reliably carry voice communication..... ...go figure.... -- Grady-White Gulfstream, out of Southport, NC. http://myworkshop.idleplay.net/ ----------------- www.Newsgroup-Binaries.com - *Completion*Retention*Speed* Access your favorite newsgroups from home or on the road ----------------- Gene, What personal experience leads you to believe Vonage can not reliably carry voice communications? I am not really a "techie", but I would think Vonage's quality would be a direct correlation to the quality of your ISP or am I missing something? |
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JimH wrote: "Jack Goff" wrote in message ... On 25 Aug 2006 04:50:11 -0700, "basskisser" wrote: Harry Krause wrote: basskisser wrote: Harry Krause wrote: JohnH wrote: On Thu, 24 Aug 2006 11:17:38 -0400, Harry Krause wrote: basskisser wrote: This morning the phones in the neighborhood where I live were all out. I didn't even know it, because I have comcast high speed and vonage! I asked the Bellsouth Technician why he was checking the line in front of my house, because I was going to tell him it's dead to my house because I don't have Bellsouth. He said he was checking because some digital device that serves the whole neighborhood went out, and they are trying to restore service!!! Wonderful. Our security alarm system sent out a letter recently advising customers NOT to transfer to VOIP unless they leave a wired traditional phone line in place or subscribe to a special, new, expensive cell service. Wanna guess why? The security company says it is working on a VOIP solution but so far, it "is not reliable." If the security company isn't reliable, I'd get a new one. You've identified many reasons why you can't switch to VOIP. That's a shame, and we all feel sorry for you. Most of the major home security company connect lines do not work with VOIP, I've since learned. Why? The signal goes out of your house just exactly as it does with a landline. Brinks works just great with VOIP Well, despite advice to the contrary from Reggie and his boy Herring, ADT says the following: Perhaps you should change your security company to one that is up to date and able to work with new fangled equipment! What company is that, bass? The one you use? Who is it? I'm not aware of any that say the use of VoIP phone service is approved. It looks like Kevin does not understand the difference between a "security" company and a "central station alarm monitoring" company. BTW, I called Brinks and they said they would not recommend their service when one uses VOIP and they could not offer any guarantee they could or would receive the signal. ;-) Jim, you are so full of ****!!!! Who did you talk to at Brinks? give me a name, and a number, you liar! I can tell you for a fact, I have VOIP, AND Brinks, and they work flawlessly. Your petty diatribe above is just fluff. |
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Reginald P. Smithers III wrote: Gene Kearns wrote: On Fri, 25 Aug 2006 10:46:55 -0400, " JimH" not telling you @ pffftt.com wrote: BTW, I called Brinks and they said they would not recommend their service when one uses VOIP and they could not offer any guarantee they could or would receive the signal. ;-) I would hazard a guess that no company would "guarantee" their performance based on the reliance of performance of a third company.... However, based on personal experience, I wouldn't even "expect" that Vonage could reliably carry voice communication..... ...go figure.... -- Grady-White Gulfstream, out of Southport, NC. http://myworkshop.idleplay.net/ ----------------- www.Newsgroup-Binaries.com - *Completion*Retention*Speed* Access your favorite newsgroups from home or on the road ----------------- Gene, What personal experience leads you to believe Vonage can not reliably carry voice communications? I am not really a "techie", but I would think Vonage's quality would be a direct correlation to the quality of your ISP or am I missing something? Mine has never gone out. I can't WAIT for JimH to give the the number and the name of the person he spoke to at Brinks!!! He claims that person said they couldn't "guarantee" it will work with VOIP. Do the "guarantee" that it will work with each and every land line?? |
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Gene Kearns wrote:
On Fri, 25 Aug 2006 11:14:11 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III" wrote: Gene, What personal experience leads you to believe Vonage can not reliably carry voice communications? I am not really a "techie", but I would think Vonage's quality would be a direct correlation to the quality of your ISP or am I missing something? I installed Vonage and it took about three days to get it going... and I suppose it just fixed itself..... I couldn't get a "phone" light, so I called tech (non)support and attempted in my best American/farci/hindi to communicate the problem. To make a L-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-N-G story short, through all of the levels of foreign tech (non)support, all they could suggest to fix the problem was to unplug the power cord to the cable modem and the vonage modem, wait, and reconnect. They always managed to stall longer than my cell phone batteries would last. American tech support (higher levels) could "see" the modem, saw no reason it shouldn't work, and could only offer the same plug-unplug scenario. So, I was ready to take the whole mess back where I got it and miraculously it started working! When it worked, it worked well... and it *was* affordable. After a few months we had a power glitch and we went through the same scenario we endured when we first bought the modem. Again, another miracle and it started working. Then we had the stutter tone indicating we had voice messages get stuck and they suggested.... see this coming? Unplug-plug.... and the phone went down again. Same scenario. Another electrical glitch and the same scenario.... except after 2 weeks it still didn't work. After, literally, hours of unplugging and plugging I finally asked one of the highest level techs what the hell he though would be different about unplug-plug *THIS* time if it didn't work the last 200 times.... "Sir, if you would just unplug...." I resolved to dump vonage.....Now enter the next level of idiocy I called Road Runner and had them port my number. We made an appointment for installation that was 3 weeks in the future. 3 weeks? "Yes," they said, "it takes Vonage extra time to port numbers. We don't know why but it will take every bit of three weeks." Well, it actually took Vonage extra, extra time and we had to reschedule because Vonage had not yet released the number. It took 4 weeks to the day... RoadRunner came, made an installation and we have had flawless service since. The vonage nightmare over with? Not by a long shot.... We kept being billed by vonage and we find that our account is still "active." Ported, now, mind you, impossible to receive service, but active.... Now, we find that service can only be cancelled by calling a special number.... which (surprise) is always busy (but they'll let you hold) and is not 24/7. After dozens of calls, my wife finally got through and after holding (collectively) for hours, they gave us a lot of grief, but finally closed the account. They had no real explanation for keeping an account alive without a telephone number nor for not closing the account when a number is ported. If they work for you, great. I think they suck out loud. This service was recommended on a radio show called "The Clark Howard Show." I called the show, explained the problem, and was told that I would be contacted to give more particulars. Never heard another word. Apparently, at least as far as vonage is concerned, Clark Howard also has a customer no-service policy..... .....go figure..... -- Grady-White Gulfstream, out of Southport, NC. http://myworkshop.idleplay.net/ ----------------- www.Newsgroup-Binaries.com - *Completion*Retention*Speed* Access your favorite newsgroups from home or on the road ----------------- Gene, I am curious, how long ago was this disaster with Vonage? I listen to Clark Howard and I know the love to jump all over any company that is not providing good service. Based upon your history, I would not be making any changes in the near future. I am glad my history has been the exact opposite. It was the Clark Howard Show that made me even think about making the change, they have had users calling in for months talking about the quality and the ease of set up. I think it was Bassy and and a few others in rec.boats that convinced me to try it. With the 30 day free trial period, it was a painless way to 'test" VOIP. I didn't port over my phone number until I was comfortable with the quality of the line and Vonage overall service. |
OT Glad for Vonage!
On Thu, 24 Aug 2006 21:20:51 -0400, Harry Krause
wrote: JohnH wrote: On Thu, 24 Aug 2006 18:37:01 -0400, Harry Krause wrote: basskisser wrote: Harry Krause wrote: JohnH wrote: On Thu, 24 Aug 2006 11:17:38 -0400, Harry Krause wrote: basskisser wrote: This morning the phones in the neighborhood where I live were all out. I didn't even know it, because I have comcast high speed and vonage! I asked the Bellsouth Technician why he was checking the line in front of my house, because I was going to tell him it's dead to my house because I don't have Bellsouth. He said he was checking because some digital device that serves the whole neighborhood went out, and they are trying to restore service!!! Wonderful. Our security alarm system sent out a letter recently advising customers NOT to transfer to VOIP unless they leave a wired traditional phone line in place or subscribe to a special, new, expensive cell service. Wanna guess why? The security company says it is working on a VOIP solution but so far, it "is not reliable." If the security company isn't reliable, I'd get a new one. You've identified many reasons why you can't switch to VOIP. That's a shame, and we all feel sorry for you. Most of the major home security company connect lines do not work with VOIP, I've since learned. Why? The signal goes out of your house just exactly as it does with a landline. Brinks works just great with VOIP Well, despite advice to the contrary from Reggie and his boy Herring, ADT says the following: snipped *I* advised you to switch? Reggie advised you to switch? Both of us told you *not* to switch due to all the problems you have. -- ****************************************** ***** Hope your day is great! ***** ****************************************** John D'oh. When did I ever say I was going to switch to VOIP? D'oh, well to what 'advice to the contrary' are you referring, Harry? -- ****************************************** ***** Hope your day is great! ***** ****************************************** John |
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