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Joe wrote:

It "used" to be that way but they found too many dead motors even by

OMC
standards:-) They changed it to a constant 50 to 60 to 1 ages ago &

changed the
name of course being OMC & all. It's still the same defective system it

always
was.


Sorry K, but a 1990 VRO works between 150 to 1, and 50 to 1 as I stated.


Gee Joe no need to get tense over it. If that motor has the original pump
I guess it is a variable, but that only confirms it absolutely needs replacing
(should have been relpaced by OMC in a proper recall years ago). For years now
OMC would ONLY sell a replacement pump that is not "variable" because the old
variable delivery pumps did not deliver enough oil.

So again if "your" OMC engine of any vintage, doesn't consume oil at a
rate of about 50 or at worst 60 to 1 then by all means waste heaps of money &
get a "new" pump, then you'll find it does deliver oil at that rate, however a
better solution as agreed by all is to just disconnect the VRO & put oil in
the fuel tank(s).



Again if your OMC doesn't consume oil at at least the rate of 50 to 1 then
have the VRO disconnected & mix tcw3 in the tank at that rate.


Wrong.


As you wish Joe. Your opinion is as valid as mine & you have the same
rights as I do to put it, the difference is I at least give the reasons why I
hold mine.

K


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As you wish Joe. Your opinion is as valid as mine & you have the same
rights as I do to put it, the difference is I at least give the reasons

why I
hold mine.


There's no *opinion* on a technical fact.
A properly working 1990 VRO pump will never show 50-1 usage.




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Joe wrote:

As you wish Joe. Your opinion is as valid as mine & you have the same
rights as I do to put it, the difference is I at least give the reasons

why I
hold mine.


There's no *opinion* on a technical fact.
A properly working 1990 VRO pump will never show 50-1 usage.


Joe I think you've missed the point, a brand new 90 VRO should never have
been less than 50 to 1 even from the factory. OMC admit this by not selling
any replacement or even parts, but insisting any repairs take that engine to a
static 50 or 60 to 1.

In normal circumstances for something as serious as a defective oiling
design (admitted by OMC because they won't even replace the pump at it's
original rates) should have led to a recall, but not OMC & eventually even
though the market was booming people just got sick or their BS & they are no
more.

K

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Joe I think you've missed the point, a brand new 90 VRO should never have
been less than 50 to 1 even from the factory.


I totally agree that it *should* never have left the factory at less than
50-1, but the fact is they did.
In 1990 they were still being *designed* with 150-1 to 50-1 variable VRO.

My only beef is with your telling Mr. Diesel that his pump should be using
oil at a 50-1 ratio. In reality he would probably see around a 75-1 ratio.






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